I passed the mine many times when I ran water truck for the drilling rigs, had a well pad about 500 yards from the 84 mine down fhat narrow ass dirt road just past the portal
I work for bnsf rail road up in the powder river basin we have a mine we load at called Jacobs ranch AKA east black thunder and I have loaded these trains at 1.8mph their record speed is 2.2mph which is hauling @ss for loading.
Poor weight distribution in that hopper. The fill starts and finishes too early, means heavier axle-load on the leading truck. Uneven wear causes accidents, derailments and delays.
nlo114 every car was preset on load amount by RFID tags and ns computers. Some would fill all the way and almost spill over. On a 100 ton car I doubt the 5 ton offset up the ramp would be enough to be unevenly loaded. Now if it stopped 2/3 of the way through the car, I would have to agree. Been to many plants and all load the same way.
I'm slightly surprised about that. I suppose it's all about the relative density of the material. UK bulk transport is in smaller net weights, so axle-loading by weight distribution is more critical. When you read the detailed accident investigation reports involving freight carriage, they go through every aspect of the loading and distribution of the cargo, sometimes finding compounded errors that led to a failure of a part and subsequent wreck. www.gov.uk/government/publications/raib-current-investigations-register/rail-accident-investigation-branch-current-investigations It makes for interesting reading when there is no beer in the fridge:-)
We used a program called batch master. It would tell us allowable weight to load at. It used rfid tags on the cars to give us specs. The hump on top would settle down during transport and fill a lot of the side voids.
Weight. Anymore would overload the car.They hold 240,000 pounds of coal or 120 tons.There are 130 cars in a coal train total weight is 15,600 or 1,560.000 pounds.The train is loaded on the fly(in motion). It takes 4 4400HP diesel locomotives to pull that train. Frequently there are one or two helper locomotives on the rear. The cars are aluminum.
It didn’t. Those cars have RFID tags on them. When the train pulls in it it registers and then tells you what each car is calling for. Once they hit target weight they are done.
It is the capacity of the belt that dictates how fast you can load. He said 3000 TPH was the capacity of his belt so there for he can only load 3000 TPH. My guess is he has a 60" belt that runs about 500 FPM. I have a 72" belt that runs 900 FPM and can load at 7000 TPH. I load at 0,7 MPH.
Maloy7800 actually met grade coal. low sulfur and lie ash. may be lifting and fact that it was cold out but coarse coal went through a crusher to size for power plant. they would blend this coal with other mines so their coal would meet quality specs.
That's a new one one me - didn't know some plants needed the coal pre-processed. A plant associated with a utility I used to work for just took the straight coal and pulverized it on side with ball mills as it made its way to the boiler. Of course, this might have been left over from when a nearby lignite mine used to conveyor its coal to the plant, before they switched to Powder River coal.
@@smokey222mktn I was mistaken then. I've seen the cars fully loaded to the top end to end. Maybe that was a different type of cargo. You guys know what you are doing. Respect. o/
You mean .2 MPH???? I load coal trains as well and I load at .7 with 7000 TPH on the belt. As far as I know, we have the largest discharge gates in the US...
0:25, "uhhhhh I an't feeling so good-BRAGHGHGHGHGGHGHGHGHGHGHHGHGHGHGHHGHGHHGHG" LOLZ silly coal loader, you going to have to do that forthe rest of your life!!
No one wants coal, power utilities don't want it, steel industry only needs a very small amount and the rest of the world is moving away from coal. Go ahead, let Trump open up every closed mine in the US and mine the shit out of everything you have, and see who buy's it. You've been deluded, hoodwinked, bamboozled, lied to and run amuck. Maybe some day when you look back and say to yourself, "hey, that bastard lied to us", then, maybe, you'll wake up.
That would be the Navajo Generating Station, a huge 2.25 GW power plant set to shut down in 2019. The slurry operation from the Black Mesa mine to the plant pretty much killed the aquifer everyone depended on. Now the aquifer might recover, but then locals will be unemployed. Caught between Scylla and Charybdis.
Dumbass. Even the people running the scam don't call it that anymore. Impressive how idiotic your comment is, to think coal dust being dumped into a railcar contributes to "global warming". The evidence shows cooling anyhow, all the predictions have been dead wrong, record snows, polar ice thicker than ever. Please, please say something truly stupid like global warming is causing record freezing temps.
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Very nice video. Thanks for posting and have a nice day too.
I could watch that all day.
Awesome
It looks like black water not gonna lie.
Also, this is a pretty satisfying video.
Thanks, I appreciate knowing how it's done. BW.
They use what is called a pacesetter and then add car brakes to regulate the speed. There are locos front and back with crew.
Great video!
Excellent video, shows all details in coal load. 5*****
That's a lot of coal. That's my favorite kind of train when they are loaded!!
I passed the mine many times when I ran water truck for the drilling rigs, had a well pad about 500 yards from the 84 mine down fhat narrow ass dirt road just past the portal
Nice video
I have been around coal before, and the thing I am amazed at is the lack of dust.
A lot of water is involved in making that happen.
Looks more like coal dust. Thermal coal.
Impressive
awesome
yes you are correct
That looks more like fines than actual coal rocks
yeah consol energy mine 84 still about 30 guys left in limbo there i worked there about ten years
Good
84 Mine now history.
I work for bnsf rail road up in the powder river basin we have a mine we load at called Jacobs ranch AKA east black thunder and I have loaded these trains at 1.8mph their record speed is 2.2mph which is hauling @ss for loading.
+pecker umf What is your name?
How many cars per mile? How many tons per car?
Is that "power plant ready" crushed coal being loaded there? It sure does look like it.
I love coal!!! WV coal black gold...
This is not Coal. No rocks. This is Coal Dust.
I think it's for power station consumption. Burns efficiently with very little waste.
So what? about 4 hours to load 110 cars?
Alright coal Train!
That was the easy part. Are they bottom dump or do they roll them over?
NS 390750 is an RD4 design car and are both Rotory, and bottom dischage equipped.
Every car has a r.f.i.d. tag that is computerized with NS to tell us what the cars capacity is.
Poor weight distribution in that hopper. The fill starts and finishes too early, means heavier axle-load on the leading truck. Uneven wear causes accidents, derailments and delays.
nlo114 every car was preset on load amount by RFID tags and ns computers. Some would fill all the way and almost spill over. On a 100 ton car I doubt the 5 ton offset up the ramp would be enough to be unevenly loaded. Now if it stopped 2/3 of the way through the car, I would have to agree. Been to many plants and all load the same way.
I'm slightly surprised about that. I suppose it's all about the relative density of the material. UK bulk transport is in smaller net weights, so axle-loading by weight distribution is more critical. When you read the detailed accident investigation reports involving freight carriage, they go through every aspect of the loading and distribution of the cargo, sometimes finding compounded errors that led to a failure of a part and subsequent wreck.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/raib-current-investigations-register/rail-accident-investigation-branch-current-investigations
It makes for interesting reading when there is no beer in the fridge:-)
Still, 1 mph faster on the indexer and the load would look prettier in the cars. :-D
How is it possible that there isn´t a massive cloud of dust?
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Why are the cars not filled?
We used a program called batch master. It would tell us allowable weight to load at. It used rfid tags on the cars to give us specs. The hump on top would settle down during transport and fill a lot of the side voids.
why is only 3/4 of the car loaded?
Weight. Anymore would overload the car.They hold 240,000 pounds of coal or 120 tons.There are 130 cars in a coal train total weight is 15,600 or 1,560.000 pounds.The train is loaded on the fly(in motion). It takes 4 4400HP diesel locomotives to pull that train. Frequently there are one or two helper locomotives on the rear. The cars are aluminum.
Why did it end early?
It didn’t. Those cars have RFID tags on them. When the train pulls in it it registers and then tells you what each car is calling for. Once they hit target weight they are done.
Is this a w v coal mine?
It is the capacity of the belt that dictates how fast you can load. He said 3000 TPH was the capacity of his belt so there for he can only load 3000 TPH. My guess is he has a 60" belt that runs about 500 FPM. I have a 72" belt that runs 900 FPM and can load at 7000 TPH. I load at 0,7 MPH.
Either it's a bad lighting or that's some crappy coal. It looks like peat.
Maloy7800 actually met grade coal. low sulfur and lie ash. may be lifting and fact that it was cold out but coarse coal went through a crusher to size for power plant. they would blend this coal with other mines so their coal would meet quality specs.
That's a new one one me - didn't know some plants needed the coal pre-processed. A plant associated with a utility I used to work for just took the straight coal and pulverized it on side with ball mills as it made its way to the boiler. Of course, this might have been left over from when a nearby lignite mine used to conveyor its coal to the plant, before they switched to Powder River coal.
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A shame 1/6 of those cars go empty.
Not sure what that means but very seldom did I deal with a car that was tagged not to load.
@@smokey222mktn That means each car is loaded with 1/6 of it's capacity left as air space.
@@jasonwilde197 we loaded each car to Max capacity weight wise.
@@smokey222mktn I was mistaken then. I've seen the cars fully loaded to the top end to end. Maybe that was a different type of cargo. You guys know what you are doing. Respect. o/
@@jasonwilde197 no problem. Haha. I didn’t know if I was missing something.
You mean .2 MPH???? I load coal trains as well and I load at .7 with 7000 TPH on the belt. As far as I know, we have the largest discharge gates in the US...
I love coal
0:25, "uhhhhh I an't feeling so good-BRAGHGHGHGHGGHGHGHGHGHGHHGHGHGHGHHGHGHHGHG"
LOLZ silly coal loader, you going to have to do that forthe rest of your life!!
that isn't coal that's
black silly putty
tradesmansassistant shut up. This is transport.
such dirty energy
No one wants coal, power utilities don't want it, steel industry only needs a very small amount and the rest of the world is moving away from coal. Go ahead, let Trump open up every closed mine in the US and mine the shit out of everything you have, and see who buy's it. You've been deluded, hoodwinked, bamboozled, lied to and run amuck. Maybe some day when you look back and say to yourself, "hey, that bastard lied to us", then, maybe, you'll wake up.
FU
Another Dumb shit of little words
Really? China has HUNDREDS of coal fired plants, and are opening more all the time with no end in sight. What world were you talking about???
So is your mom
hey look it's a dinosaur dying..R.I.P coal industry.
the largest coal fired power plant in the west is slated for closure...
R.I.P COAL INDUSTRY
FUCK PEABODY COAL
That would be the Navajo Generating Station, a huge 2.25 GW power plant set to shut down in 2019. The slurry operation from the Black Mesa mine to the plant pretty much killed the aquifer everyone depended on. Now the aquifer might recover, but then locals will be unemployed. Caught between Scylla and Charybdis.
Impressive how much global warming that machine can dish out.
Dumbass. Even the people running the scam don't call it that anymore. Impressive how idiotic your comment is, to think coal dust being dumped into a railcar contributes to "global warming". The evidence shows cooling anyhow, all the predictions have been dead wrong, record snows, polar ice thicker than ever. Please, please say something truly stupid like global warming is causing record freezing temps.
Its oil and coal that advanced society to where it is today. How about embracing the fossil fuel industry. We'd be nowhere without them.