Bought my first canoe yesterday, a disco 158, cheap and cheerful with plastic paddles that have the spine, now I understand why the curve of the J stroke felt like a brake.
The spine shouldn't make much of a break but it will certainly break up the water and feel which is so important with the J-stroke. Have you seen my J-stroke video? th-cam.com/video/qmExaexsCAQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IfF9IoHjT8bHYrnA
@@RayGoodwinCanoe Thanks Ray, watched it earlier, did give me good tips and food for thought to take with me on my next wee trip. Looking forward to it.
Brilliant idea to release video with this heading. There are many different type of paddles and as a beginner I still trying to find my favourite. liked the video.
I have also switched to oiled paddles in recent years and use Tung oil. For me using a slightly longer paddle for white water works well, it enables me to reach out closer to the canoe centre and sides to increase the efficiency of draws and such. Very informative vid Ray...I appreciate what you do cheers from Canada
I should have remembered that. I paddled the river back in the late 80s in kayak. I was doing a ww kayak tour of that area. Dagger had kindly loaned us boats.
This winter I want to make an otter tail to add to my paddle selection. Most use is my modified beaver tail, similar to your cygnet. Next is my pole selections with variation in length and shoes or shoeless along with a good Y pole for lily pad and muddy conditions. Great tips on sizing. I would rather be stuck with a shorter paddle than a longer one. I oil with home made birch oil rendered from birch bark. Maybe just fill the chip with G-Flex you can get it in a paste so its thicker and will fill the void better than the liquid. sand to form after its dry.
Great tip on the G-flex, I always have some in store. Wow sounds like you are really into the craft side of canoeing with your own birch oil and making paddles. Fantastic stuff.
@@RayGoodwinCanoe I've been working with wood most of my life mainly in traditional timber framing and other farm related aspects, and dabble in primitive skills such as making birch oil etc. All my paddles are self made as well.
the background noises and commentary really make this video, very informative , next video will have to be done exclusively by Maya with you giving commentary.
I keep trying to get Maya to get in front of the camera but she is quite shy. But if she does I will look forward to commentating and making rude remarks. Re noises: I used to get really worried about these but eventually came to the conclusion that they made it 'real' along with appearances from my dog and in the past chickens. Thank so much for commentating.
I feel the T grip on whitewater paddles works more comfortably with a River-J / gooney stroke, doesn't quite put as much stress on your hand when rotating...
All of this is so personal in terms of choices. A stern pry or goon stroke shouldn't put any stress on the wrist whatever paddle grip you are using. Check out my videos on both the J-stoke and the stern pry/goon.
I would definitely take some similar coloured saw dust mix it with epoxy and repair the chip as best as possible. May not be a perfect colour match but would repair it.
A fellow gunwale banger from Canada here. I too believe paddle length to be a personal choice. Very pleased you didn't go to the dark side with those bent shaft abominations !
I’ve always used Pure Tung Oil on my paddles. It’s 100% natural and has a lower environmental impact. The only down sides are, its slower drying rate than danish oil, and slightly less durable, meaning more frequent applications.
@@RayGoodwinCanoeI believe danish oil is a mixture of linseed and tung oil. (Tung oil is also food safe, handy if you like preparing fish on your paddle blade)
I really enjoyed this, so informative, and relaxing to listen to (that ASMR thing!) Thank you Ray and Maya. I was wondering, what you would thin the linseed oil with? White spirit?
Only once as part of Ray Mears' BBC2 Bushcraft series. I helped Ray Mears with the carving of a paddle but in the final edit, to everyone's amusement, i got stitched up and they cut it in with me making a spatula. Very witty. It is after 38min and is on th-cam.com/video/ut3KOabgdJ8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=n9Jiyhy9SSISYMoT
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Lovely video❤
Thank you
It's so much fun to see everyone's paddle collection! 👊🏼
It really is!
Bought my first canoe yesterday, a disco 158, cheap and cheerful with plastic paddles that have the spine, now I understand why the curve of the J stroke felt like a brake.
The spine shouldn't make much of a break but it will certainly break up the water and feel which is so important with the J-stroke. Have you seen my J-stroke video? th-cam.com/video/qmExaexsCAQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IfF9IoHjT8bHYrnA
@@RayGoodwinCanoe Thanks Ray, watched it earlier, did give me good tips and food for thought to take with me on my next wee trip. Looking forward to it.
@@fellmonkey Hope it helps
Concise as ever Ray. I use Tung oil as a treatment.
Yep I saw Tung oil on the builders merchant's shelf the other day. Will have to have a real think about it.
@@RayGoodwinCanoe Ye, have a good think... given it's about the price of good Malt by volume!
@@grahamrowe6278 I might stick to Danish Oil.
Great video Ray, really interesting and informative. Enjoying the bird-song backing track too!
And bout of thunder plus peacock as a bonus. Thank you for your kind comments
Brilliant idea to release video with this heading. There are many different type of paddles and as a beginner I still trying to find my favourite. liked the video.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Maya.
... at least he's had many years of going through rock gardens to get accustomed to being utterly thrashed.
Oh no don't encourage her.😥
I have also switched to oiled paddles in recent years and use Tung oil. For me using a slightly longer paddle for white water works well, it enables me to reach out closer to the canoe centre and sides to increase the efficiency of draws and such. Very informative vid Ray...I appreciate what you do cheers from Canada
Good stuff. Yep at the end of the day paddle length becomes a personal choice.
@@RayGoodwinCanoe Absolutely but i like the technique you showed on how to measure a regular size paddle, makes a lot of sense !
@@highlandtrekker Thank you.
Nicely done. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
For anyone who isn't sure... boiled linseed oil isn't actually linseed oil that has just been boiled, it has other chemicals added in to it.
Thanks for that. I wasn't aware of the additions. And do not, DO NOT, ever attempt to boil it yourself (for anyone else reading this).
Spot on Ray.
Thank you.
It is said Nah ta haaa la. Thanks from a Canadian.
I should have remembered that. I paddled the river back in the late 80s in kayak. I was doing a ww kayak tour of that area. Dagger had kindly loaned us boats.
Really interesting and informative, thanks Ray & Maya.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This winter I want to make an otter tail to add to my paddle selection. Most use is my modified beaver tail, similar to your cygnet. Next is my pole selections with variation in length and shoes or shoeless along with a good Y pole for lily pad and muddy conditions. Great tips on sizing. I would rather be stuck with a shorter paddle than a longer one. I oil with home made birch oil rendered from birch bark. Maybe just fill the chip with G-Flex you can get it in a paste so its thicker and will fill the void better than the liquid. sand to form after its dry.
Great tip on the G-flex, I always have some in store. Wow sounds like you are really into the craft side of canoeing with your own birch oil and making paddles. Fantastic stuff.
@@RayGoodwinCanoe I've been working with wood most of my life mainly in traditional timber framing and other farm related aspects, and dabble in primitive skills such as making birch oil etc. All my paddles are self made as well.
the background noises and commentary really make this video, very informative , next video will have to be done exclusively by Maya with you giving commentary.
I keep trying to get Maya to get in front of the camera but she is quite shy. But if she does I will look forward to commentating and making rude remarks. Re noises: I used to get really worried about these but eventually came to the conclusion that they made it 'real' along with appearances from my dog and in the past chickens. Thank so much for commentating.
@@RayGoodwinCanoeTag your videos ASMR, it’s a thing apparently 😂
@@paulfrance5059 Relaxing or sending folk to sleep? I had to look ASMR up
I feel the T grip on whitewater paddles works more comfortably with a River-J / gooney stroke, doesn't quite put as much stress on your hand when rotating...
All of this is so personal in terms of choices. A stern pry or goon stroke shouldn't put any stress on the wrist whatever paddle grip you are using. Check out my videos on both the J-stoke and the stern pry/goon.
I would definitely take some similar coloured saw dust mix it with epoxy and repair the chip as best as possible. May not be a perfect colour match but would repair it.
Thanks for the tips!
A fellow gunwale banger from Canada here. I too believe paddle length to be a personal choice. Very pleased you didn't go to the dark side with those bent shaft abominations !
oh no I was thinking of doing a whole video on bent shafts! I have a really nice carbon one. 🤣 I will include a warning.
The beavertail is a beautifull paddle.
In general yes but this is a stunning example.
@@RayGoodwinCanoe It is indeed. I don't know if you know of beau miles, he makes his own paddles from scrap wood which I admire greatly.
@@MANIKO5 On your recommendation I have just watched his junk wood paddle build. Brilliant.
@@RayGoodwinCanoe He is a true gem.
I’ve always used Pure Tung Oil on my paddles. It’s 100% natural and has a lower environmental impact. The only down sides are, its slower drying rate than danish oil, and slightly less durable, meaning more frequent applications.
That is not one I have come across. Will have a little look. Thanks.
@@RayGoodwinCanoeI believe danish oil is a mixture of linseed and tung oil.
(Tung oil is also food safe, handy if you like preparing fish on your paddle blade)
I really enjoyed this, so informative, and relaxing to listen to (that ASMR thing!) Thank you Ray and Maya. I was wondering, what you would thin the linseed oil with? White spirit?
Yep white spirt is good. Now considering a series of relaxing talks to go to sleep to. 😆
Thank you, great video. Have you ever dabbled in making your own paddles?
Only once as part of Ray Mears' BBC2 Bushcraft series. I helped Ray Mears with the carving of a paddle but in the final edit, to everyone's amusement, i got stitched up and they cut it in with me making a spatula. Very witty. It is after 38min and is on th-cam.com/video/ut3KOabgdJ8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=n9Jiyhy9SSISYMoT
@@RayGoodwinCanoe Very funny!
Informative vid..thanks. What would you use to thin out the boiled linseed oil Ray?
The advice I have had has been white spirit or real turpentine. I used that for very many years.
The Palm Alba Pro is a good, cheaper alternative to the Werner.
I will have a look.
The smell of boiled linseed oil and turps - hyfryd!!
Delightful indeed
I like the aesthetic touch of the undies drying on the line........
oh no I missed that in the edit! Ah well 😅 😂 🤣
@@RayGoodwinCanoe 😍