If people would associate the word “trick” with communication they would not be so negative on tricks. It’s just communicating to the bird what we want.
legit just stumbled on the video and your channel.... love what your doing and all your birds I have a gut feeling this is going to become my favourite channel
Woweeeee Jamie leigh. Morgans progress in this short time has been incredible, beautiful to watch n also im learning so much 😊 rly informative, ty so much 4 sharing Morgans wonderful journey 😀 🐦 🐥 🐥 🐤 🐥 🐥 🐦
I Really love how you document the training so thoroughly including the voiceover after the live video... So easy to follow exactly what you're doing and why. It must be soooo much work! Thank you!
Been doing a lot of research before getting my own bird. So I been watching all your videos. Just wanted to say when she turned around on the pirch It gave me a huge smile. Then when u danced I was laughing. I was with u there. Lol. U have gave me the most insight. Ty for that.
On the perch, you can almost see her thinking "I really want to but I don't know how" Also her little wing flutters are so cute (not to mid flight flaps but the closed flutters)
I think I may know what spooked her. My parents rescued a blue and gold years ago. The owner wanted to euthanize him his name was Max the owner went out of town and left his girlfriend in charge Max had a small wound on his face from scratching due to an allergy his foot needed to be Loosely wrapped to keep him from scratching the girlfriend wrapped his foot too tight and he lost all of his toes on his left foot he would spook and flutter like that when you were holding him if you moved a little too quickly or if he went to adjust his feet and you were moving he would slip I have found with working with Max that if you position the bad foot near your thumb you can actually place your thumb over the foot to help give the bird a little more stability I thought that this advice might help
I'm a new sub! You are doing such a good job with her and she is a strong and smart parrot :) I think she will learn to fly as any other macaw with time, she learnt so much already
And actually, your daughter told you she was done and you pushed the last flight and called her “spooked”. She wasn’t spooked; I agree with your daughter, she was tired. Kudos for the little trainer in training! ☺️❤️
+BirdTricks Could it be possible she doesn't like stepping down because hands are most comfortable on her bad foot. Just a thought. Hard surfaces on the ankle seems like it would be uncomfortable for any animal. Anyway,
I think given her condition ANY surface is uncomfortable at this point, which is why she's gotta figure out how to best use them all. I have wrapped her t-stand in vet wrap so it's softer for her though. But outdoors, things are not going to be the most comfortable (the ground, or trees, if she lands on any of these) I want her to be able to take off FROM them and to me. So she's gotta figure all this out :) but yeah, probably part of her hesitancy.
Not to mention look how much she loves doing it! I think it really sets a bird up for success! Especially the birds that live a long time, and get rehomed because they've outlived they're owners! Look at the Grey who passed away at 3 yrs old! It had been through 4 homes in that short amount of time!
I haven't been following in a while so this was the newest video I've seen from you, but what may I ask had happened to Morgan's foot? Was she born that way with a bad foot?
blackpprs I’m using walnuts and pine nuts. Try luring your bird close to it. Our training 101 video goes over it. So does our one day miracles series www.birdtricksstore.com
I was wondering how long Patty has had Morgan. Is she mad/scared bc of the medical care stuff Patty had to do? Was that the start of their relationship? These videos are awesome!!! So helpful!
In the beginning they had a great relationship for the most part - Patty said Morgan would even snuggle against her. Then she had the toe amputated and had to give meds via toweling so that really diminished what they had created. When she came to me, she immediately took to me that first day and has shunned Patty in the mean time (actually biting me when Patty came around and avoiding interaction with Patty.) but just the day before yesterday, I asked Patty to trim Morgan's nails and Morgan let her no problem and has been stepping up for her great! So we are finding that when we interact with Morgan individually she's great, but when we are together, it could go either way and usually goes a way none of us like.
BirdTricks Interesting! I’m working on rebuilding my relationship with my greenwing, so I apologize ahead of time if I start asking too many questions! I decided today to start recording our sessions (as per your suggestion) bc I feel like sometimes things go ok and sometimes not and I’m struggling to understand why.
I have two questions; 1) OK, everything is a trick for the bird, including behavior that I want it to have, but won't the bird associate the behavior I want it to have (e.g. come to me when I call it) with treats? Will the bird keep that behavior after training? For example I train the bird for 2-3 months, I get it to have the behavior I want it to have, will the bird keep that behavior afterwards, without "treating" it and just by praising it? 2) As someone who likes both cats and parrots I'd like to own both but I always assumed that they are mutual exclusive despite the fact that I have seen people with parrots owning cats as well. Basically I thought that these people are irresponsible and are asking for trouble, seeing you (Jamie Leigh) though I am reconsidering. How do you train either or both at not having the cat attack the bird and go against its (the cat's) instincts, especially since it is known that even a well fed cat is a natural born killer and will kill for sport.
Kleanthis Xanthopoulos I know that I am probably not the person you are looking to have respond but, 1) it depends on the bird. The bird should learn the trick and perform with or without the treat. Birds are very intelligent and remember things very easily. Even without repetition. 2) I would never keep a cat and a parrot together. Just my opinion but I would never even attempt it. Even if they get along well, it’s not safe because a cat can very easily and quickly change its mind. Also, I felt the need to add that 1 single drop of a cats saliva will kill a bird. The same goes for dogs. I hope this helps!
1.) In short, yes. But it will be more on your bird's terms. For example, if you train it to fly on cue with treats for 3 months it's going to be dialed into that. You can use what I call "random rewarding" more on that here; www.birdtricksstore.com/blogs/birdtricks-blog/an-introduction-to-random-rewarding-in-parrot-training. However, if you just stop giving treats every time you ask the bird to do that, and reward it with praise or quality time instead, it will only do the behavior when it wants THOSE rewards. Which may not be as reliable as the treats. If I am hanging out, my birds want to be with me and come to me. But that does not mean they would come when I call, they would come when they want to be with me. Big difference. You can reward with petting or a toy, whatever the birds interprets as a reinforcement for doing that. Make sense? 2.) So my cat situation is a little different than most. My cat is around 13 years old, and I adopted her but she doesn't have any front claws. So that takes away a lot of the usual issues most people have. I've honestly thought about whether or not I'd get another cat when Ninja has passed and I'm not sure because the situation works for having birds around and I doubt I'd find another similar situation again! I am sure there is a way to work with both but since the saliva and cat nail punctures could be fatal to a bird, it is incredibly risky. Here are some blogs on this topic; www.birdtricksstore.com/search?q=cats
OK, so if I understood random rewarding correctly, then I will start with 1 trick = 1 treat and then I will gradually move to 2 tricks =1 treat, all the way to 5 tricks = 1 (big) treat. After that time, and assuming that the bird shows consistency will it be possible to ask from the bird the said behavior without any treats most of the time (but just praising it) and using trick/treating more rarely?
Hey can you give me some tips on how to get my budgie to come to me. She comes out of the cage no problem, but never comes to me. Maybe she is lonely, but I heard if I get another budgie she might bond with her and completely ignore me. Please help
I started training only once day, but I have since changed that to twice a day. (Morning and evening). I was originally training after her veggie breakfast, and now I train then PLUS an evening training before her pellets. As for the 2-5 minutes... nooooo... it took 8 minutes of WAITING for her to take her first flight I think. Maybe longer! Here's some info on that; www.birdtricksstore.com/blogs/birdtricks-blog/how-long-should-training-sessions-be-capturing-vs-formal-training
Thank you, you guys are the best! We have rehomed a couple of eclectus parrots with issues and these videos are really helping. I dont mind the time, and even the bites, its all about the journey, but the training is making it so much easier.
What's a good bird for a first time owner? I'm new to your channel so I'm sorry if you've made a video about it, but I'd love your thoughts on the topic. I know no bird is easy and everyone is different, but what types do you recommend for a first time owner looking for a companion that's good for handing but not too difficult to train without loads of experience?
Guinea Winnie as long as your doing tons of research on it, any bird can be! I always recommend conures, budgies or cockatiels to first time bird owners. The only thing I would recommend is starting out smaller. People way too often get larger birds like cockatoos or African Greys and then realize they are in WAY over their heads. Green cheek conures are incredibly intelligent and they have HUGE personalities. Just make sure you are doing/have done as much research as possible. If you would like to speak to me further I would love to give you some advice! My instagram is: ParakeetCorner I would prefer not putting my email on here or I would.
seilia lindquist thank you so much! I'm just planning ahead as I won't be ready for a bird for at least another year, but I'll definitely keep you and your advice in mind:)
I like Seilia's advice and also recommend starting small - caique's, Senegals, cockatiels, parrotlets, etc. Budgies are fantastic! I think they're less intimidating to start with because of the beak size but they're still capable of all the stuff the larger ones are. They can talk and learn fun behaviors, etc.
BirdTricks I completely agree! Budgies have huge personalities! I currently have two as well as quite I few others including larger birds and let me tell you, my budgies have just as much sass and personality as the larger birds! They might be small but they make amazing companions and an they are especially great for someone that is new to owning birds!
Just wondering...would an L shaped perch provide any benefit for Morgan? It looks like she can still clamp her bad foot somewhat. Also, thanks for taking the time to show the whole process in these videos! Other videos using trained birds don't help near as much. I can't wait to watch the Bird Tricks dvds I just got!
Yay! Thanks! Yes, we agreed and that's why we only use UNTRAINED birds. I watched a harness training video once on a baby bird and thought... ughhhhh so unrealistic! Hahaha. A L shape might help, I am unsure if she would be so comfortable she wouldn't know how to take off or if she could push off better - but the plan is to teach her to fly off all sorts of surfaces because I want her to be able to come back from anywhere once I get her outdoors.
Your daughter seemed to be offering some interesting ideas...do you ever let her engage and/or guide, and/or participate in the training? Children oftentimes have more insight (built upon what they’ve observationally learned from watching us).
Its funny its like the roles are reverse. Ur daughter is walking around like she is the mom doing chores around the house ignorig you while the mom plays with the birds hahaha
lotuschile I don’t believe in putting any animal through surgery if it isn’t 100% necessary which, in this case it doesn’t seem to be. I think it would be amazing to see Morgan to be able to use her foot but I’m not sure hat it would really be worth all of the stress that she would have to endure.
Since I am not her owner I don't really think about it to be honest - my only focus is teaching her to work with her disability and not against it. But I am sure her owner would be open to the best options for Morgan if they came up. I know she has said that no vets she has consulted with have been willing to take a surgery like that on.
BubsyMupsy it's a clicker she uses as a reward for the bird. It works in dogs too. If you train them correctly, it can be more rewarding then treats. My dog is pretty weird about treats, she just doesn't like them. So I exclusively use the clicker as a reward.
don't do this with them, don't do that with them, don't have this, don't give them that it will be better that I should never have a pet at all. Why to waste my emotions on something that won't love me or cuddle me back as I'll do.
She loves the praise so much and that’s adorable
If people would associate the word “trick” with communication they would not be so negative on tricks. It’s just communicating to the bird what we want.
Yes!
legit just stumbled on the video and your channel.... love what your doing and all your birds I have a gut feeling this is going to become my favourite channel
Woweeeee Jamie leigh. Morgans progress in this short time has been incredible, beautiful to watch n also im learning so much 😊 rly informative, ty so much 4 sharing Morgans wonderful journey 😀
🐦 🐥 🐥 🐤 🐥 🐥 🐦
Love Morgan's story and as a disabled person find it inspiring for my own journey.
I Really love how you document the training so thoroughly including the voiceover after the live video... So easy to follow exactly what you're doing and why. It must be soooo much work! Thank you!
And the birds are so intelligent that they NEED to constantly learn. This keeps them curious and willing to adapt.
What wonderful creatures we are: being able to see the exceptional beauty in these creatures!
I love watching you and Morgan's progress
Yay!!!!! Great job Morgan & Jamieleigh! Happy to see the time change worked.
I love this bird she is so cute! I love seeing her PROgress💪🏾💯!!
Been doing a lot of research before getting my own bird. So I been watching all your videos. Just wanted to say when she turned around on the pirch It gave me a huge smile. Then when u danced I was laughing. I was with u there. Lol. U have gave me the most insight. Ty for that.
I love Capri's comments in the background 😍
On the perch, you can almost see her thinking "I really want to but I don't know how"
Also her little wing flutters are so cute (not to mid flight flaps but the closed flutters)
Morgan is such a beautiful bird. Love her colors, and she's such a smart girl. 💖
I love that table, the bench seat! And. That wall!
I love how your little girl picks up the things you know too
I think I may know what spooked her. My parents rescued a blue and gold years ago. The owner wanted to euthanize him his name was Max the owner went out of town and left his girlfriend in charge Max had a small wound on his face from scratching due to an allergy his foot needed to be Loosely wrapped to keep him from scratching the girlfriend wrapped his foot too tight and he lost all of his toes on his left foot he would spook and flutter like that when you were holding him if you moved a little too quickly or if he went to adjust his feet and you were moving he would slip I have found with working with Max that if you position the bad foot near your thumb you can actually place your thumb over the foot to help give the bird a little more stability I thought that this advice might help
I'm a new sub! You are doing such a good job with her and she is a strong and smart parrot :) I think she will learn to fly as any other macaw with time, she learnt so much already
Thank you!
wow So cool to see Morgan doing so well I'm very happy for you Both lol
And actually, your daughter told you she was done and you pushed the last flight and called her “spooked”. She wasn’t spooked; I agree with your daughter, she was tired. Kudos for the little trainer in training! ☺️❤️
My cockatoo yells all morning until I put him under the covers with me to snuggle is that bad?
No thats wholesome af
Good girl Morgan !!!!
+BirdTricks Could it be possible she doesn't like stepping down because hands are most comfortable on her bad foot. Just a thought. Hard surfaces on the ankle seems like it would be uncomfortable for any animal. Anyway,
I think given her condition ANY surface is uncomfortable at this point, which is why she's gotta figure out how to best use them all. I have wrapped her t-stand in vet wrap so it's softer for her though. But outdoors, things are not going to be the most comfortable (the ground, or trees, if she lands on any of these) I want her to be able to take off FROM them and to me. So she's gotta figure all this out :) but yeah, probably part of her hesitancy.
Not to mention look how much she loves doing it! I think it really sets a bird up for success! Especially the birds that live a long time, and get rehomed because they've outlived they're owners! Look at the Grey who passed away at 3 yrs old! It had been through 4 homes in that short amount of time!
Morgan is such a pretty bird
I haven't been following in a while so this was the newest video I've seen from you, but what may I ask had happened to Morgan's foot? Was she born that way with a bad foot?
How you train her to click on the stick without getting scared? My bird hiss when he saw me bring long object. Btw what kind of treat you feed her?
blackpprs I’m using walnuts and pine nuts. Try luring your bird close to it. Our training 101 video goes over it. So does our one day miracles series www.birdtricksstore.com
She was having a good time looking at herself lol
Also how much time do you try spend with your birds outside of training. One on one.
I was wondering how long Patty has had Morgan. Is she mad/scared bc of the medical care stuff Patty had to do? Was that the start of their relationship? These videos are awesome!!! So helpful!
In the beginning they had a great relationship for the most part - Patty said Morgan would even snuggle against her. Then she had the toe amputated and had to give meds via toweling so that really diminished what they had created. When she came to me, she immediately took to me that first day and has shunned Patty in the mean time (actually biting me when Patty came around and avoiding interaction with Patty.) but just the day before yesterday, I asked Patty to trim Morgan's nails and Morgan let her no problem and has been stepping up for her great! So we are finding that when we interact with Morgan individually she's great, but when we are together, it could go either way and usually goes a way none of us like.
Oh! And Patty had her about two-three months I think.
BirdTricks Interesting! I’m working on rebuilding my relationship with my greenwing, so I apologize ahead of time if I start asking too many questions! I decided today to start recording our sessions (as per your suggestion) bc I feel like sometimes things go ok and sometimes not and I’m struggling to understand why.
That's great! If you ever feel the need for one on one consultations, we offer that too :) www.birdtricksstore.com/pages/consultations
it obviously can see how hard she try her best to make it and it is not easy to do
I have two questions;
1) OK, everything is a trick for the bird, including behavior that I want it to have, but won't the bird associate the behavior I want it to have (e.g. come to me when I call it) with treats? Will the bird keep that behavior after training? For example I train the bird for 2-3 months, I get it to have the behavior I want it to have, will the bird keep that behavior afterwards, without "treating" it and just by praising it?
2) As someone who likes both cats and parrots I'd like to own both but I always assumed that they are mutual exclusive despite the fact that I have seen people with parrots owning cats as well. Basically I thought that these people are irresponsible and are asking for trouble, seeing you (Jamie Leigh) though I am reconsidering. How do you train either or both at not having the cat attack the bird and go against its (the cat's) instincts, especially since it is known that even a well fed cat is a natural born killer and will kill for sport.
Kleanthis Xanthopoulos I know that I am probably not the person you are looking to have respond but, 1) it depends on the bird. The bird should learn the trick and perform with or without the treat. Birds are very intelligent and remember things very easily. Even without repetition. 2) I would never keep a cat and a parrot together. Just my opinion but I would never even attempt it. Even if they get along well, it’s not safe because a cat can very easily and quickly change its mind. Also, I felt the need to add that 1 single drop of a cats saliva will kill a bird. The same goes for dogs. I hope this helps!
It does, thanks
1.) In short, yes. But it will be more on your bird's terms. For example, if you train it to fly on cue with treats for 3 months it's going to be dialed into that. You can use what I call "random rewarding" more on that here; www.birdtricksstore.com/blogs/birdtricks-blog/an-introduction-to-random-rewarding-in-parrot-training. However, if you just stop giving treats every time you ask the bird to do that, and reward it with praise or quality time instead, it will only do the behavior when it wants THOSE rewards. Which may not be as reliable as the treats.
If I am hanging out, my birds want to be with me and come to me. But that does not mean they would come when I call, they would come when they want to be with me. Big difference. You can reward with petting or a toy, whatever the birds interprets as a reinforcement for doing that. Make sense?
2.) So my cat situation is a little different than most. My cat is around 13 years old, and I adopted her but she doesn't have any front claws. So that takes away a lot of the usual issues most people have. I've honestly thought about whether or not I'd get another cat when Ninja has passed and I'm not sure because the situation works for having birds around and I doubt I'd find another similar situation again! I am sure there is a way to work with both but since the saliva and cat nail punctures could be fatal to a bird, it is incredibly risky. Here are some blogs on this topic; www.birdtricksstore.com/search?q=cats
OK, so if I understood random rewarding correctly, then I will start with 1 trick = 1 treat and then I will gradually move to 2 tricks =1 treat, all the way to 5 tricks = 1 (big) treat. After that time, and assuming that the bird shows consistency will it be possible to ask from the bird the said behavior without any treats most of the time (but just praising it) and using trick/treating more rarely?
Obviously you don't clip their wings, what do you think about people who do?
I have the same off the shoulder top from h&m too!
What is the latest in the evening you would train. My birds are always in bed at dark 6:00 pm in FL.
Probably 5pm, mine go to bed at 6:30pm.
How much and i live in jax gla
Hey can you give me some tips on how to get my budgie to come to me. She comes out of the cage no problem, but never comes to me. Maybe she is lonely, but I heard if I get another budgie she might bond with her and completely ignore me. Please help
Check out my "birdtricks Tuesday" series, the one titled parrot training 101 will get you started.
When you train its 2-5 minutes is that only once a day?
I started training only once day, but I have since changed that to twice a day. (Morning and evening). I was originally training after her veggie breakfast, and now I train then PLUS an evening training before her pellets. As for the 2-5 minutes... nooooo... it took 8 minutes of WAITING for her to take her first flight I think. Maybe longer! Here's some info on that; www.birdtricksstore.com/blogs/birdtricks-blog/how-long-should-training-sessions-be-capturing-vs-formal-training
Thank you, you guys are the best! We have rehomed a couple of eclectus parrots with issues and these videos are really helping. I dont mind the time, and even the bites, its all about the journey, but the training is making it so much easier.
What's a good bird for a first time owner? I'm new to your channel so I'm sorry if you've made a video about it, but I'd love your thoughts on the topic. I know no bird is easy and everyone is different, but what types do you recommend for a first time owner looking for a companion that's good for handing but not too difficult to train without loads of experience?
Guinea Winnie as long as your doing tons of research on it, any bird can be! I always recommend conures, budgies or cockatiels to first time bird owners. The only thing I would recommend is starting out smaller. People way too often get larger birds like cockatoos or African Greys and then realize they are in WAY over their heads. Green cheek conures are incredibly intelligent and they have HUGE personalities. Just make sure you are doing/have done as much research as possible. If you would like to speak to me further I would love to give you some advice! My instagram is: ParakeetCorner I would prefer not putting my email on here or I would.
seilia lindquist thank you so much! I'm just planning ahead as I won't be ready for a bird for at least another year, but I'll definitely keep you and your advice in mind:)
I like Seilia's advice and also recommend starting small - caique's, Senegals, cockatiels, parrotlets, etc. Budgies are fantastic! I think they're less intimidating to start with because of the beak size but they're still capable of all the stuff the larger ones are. They can talk and learn fun behaviors, etc.
BirdTricks I completely agree! Budgies have huge personalities! I currently have two as well as quite I few others including larger birds and let me tell you, my budgies have just as much sass and personality as the larger birds! They might be small but they make amazing companions and an they are especially great for someone that is new to owning birds!
She is a BEAUTIFUL bird I really want one how expensive is all the equipment?
Owning a bird in general is expensive.
Did she say 5o clock at night?
Does her left wing fold like that because of her foot?
Yes, because of how she has to stand and balance.
BirdTricks that's what I thought! Has her foot been like that from birth?
Yes; www.birdtricksstore.com/blogs/birdtricks-blog/morgans-story birth defect.
BirdTricks oh! I forgot to watch that video, ill get to it right away
Hi! Where can I get a training perch like this one?
Nancy D. Solomon just ask your local welder to make you one, that’s what we did. It’s out of steel and powder coated.
Thanks Jamie Leigh!
What treats do you give her?
Walnuts and pine nuts
Poor baby what happened to his foot
Just wondering...would an L shaped perch provide any benefit for Morgan? It looks like she can still clamp her bad foot somewhat. Also, thanks for taking the time to show the whole process in these videos! Other videos using trained birds don't help near as much. I can't wait to watch the Bird Tricks dvds I just got!
Yay! Thanks! Yes, we agreed and that's why we only use UNTRAINED birds. I watched a harness training video once on a baby bird and thought... ughhhhh so unrealistic! Hahaha. A L shape might help, I am unsure if she would be so comfortable she wouldn't know how to take off or if she could push off better - but the plan is to teach her to fly off all sorts of surfaces because I want her to be able to come back from anywhere once I get her outdoors.
Your daughter seemed to be offering some interesting ideas...do you ever let her engage and/or guide, and/or participate in the training? Children oftentimes have more insight (built upon what they’ve observationally learned from watching us).
Ahh how does someone make a you tube video with out knowing that it was made thats me..lol
Hi...where can I purchase the green trainer clicker that you have in your hand?
I sell my clickers in all different colors on my site :) www.birdtricksstore.com/products/training-clicker
thankyou!
Please make video how you potty train her!!
blackpprs we have an e book on potty training that comes with our stop biting course www.birdtricksstore.com
What does that stick do
Its funny its like the roles are reverse. Ur daughter is walking around like she is the mom doing chores around the house ignorig you while the mom plays with the birds hahaha
Nervous about slippers- WOW
Have you thought of having an operation to fuse morgans foot straight? it looks like she has nerve and muscle control over it, would it help her.
lotuschile I don’t believe in putting any animal through surgery if it isn’t 100% necessary which, in this case it doesn’t seem to be. I think it would be amazing to see Morgan to be able to use her foot but I’m not sure hat it would really be worth all of the stress that she would have to endure.
Thats ok, but im more interested in bird tricks opinion, working so closely with morgan im sure she would be in a better position to make that call.
Since I am not her owner I don't really think about it to be honest - my only focus is teaching her to work with her disability and not against it. But I am sure her owner would be open to the best options for Morgan if they came up. I know she has said that no vets she has consulted with have been willing to take a surgery like that on.
Nervous about your slippers......WOW! No wonder I don’t have a bird!
I have so many questions for you
I offer consults :) www.birdtricksstore.com/pages/consultations
What's this click sound when she takes off?
BubsyMupsy it's a clicker she uses as a reward for the bird. It works in dogs too. If you train them correctly, it can be more rewarding then treats. My dog is pretty weird about treats, she just doesn't like them. So I exclusively use the clicker as a reward.
does her foot hurt her
Nope.
Hope you spend that amount of time with the child.. 😊
Bird flights don’t bother your cat?
I think Capri was right.....Morgan was a like tired!
Where was the ghost :p
you guys have a cat?
I feel like the mom likes the bird more than her own child😂
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don't do this with them, don't do that with them, don't have this, don't give them that
it will be better that I should never have a pet at all. Why to waste my emotions on something that won't love me or cuddle me back as I'll do.
The dead birds on the wall though. ....