I Hate Necromunda Palanite Enforcers
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This video is old and out of date lmao
Is there an updated take?
@@brim-skerdouglasson not yet lol but I do like them
@@IdioticSynergy Oh please do one lol. I don't get enough enforcers in my life!
Best Scout Marines
So how would you use the as scouts. Like which enforcer to use as a replacement for which scout unit.
@@AMPMASTER10 Palanite box comes with 6 shotguns, 6 boltguns, 2 snipers, some pistols, an some other extras
Scout squad can rock boltguns and any number of models can take a shotgun plus a combat knife. For every 5 models u can take a sniper and another can take a missle launcher or heavy bolter. The autopistols/stubguns could work as bolt pistols
The only thing missing in the Palanite box is the heavy bolter an missile launcher
It seems like a kitbash with some extra intercessor bits would get a nice set of scouts
@@BBC4U thanks
I almost ordered a box to use as Scouts, but then the official box was announced.
NOOOOOOOOOOO
i tried that THEY HAVE SPERATE NECK PEICES? YOU TAKING THE PISS!!!
Palanites as a minor faction get access to *everything*. Their everything can take everything. You can have an entire team of plasma guns if you want.
Although I think they are not a good starters choice, I think there are ways to unlock their advantages.
Have a look at the following:
- Hardcase Cyber Mastiffs are far better than Orlock Cyber Mastiffs and are cheaper. I'd say they are probably the exotic pets with the best cost value. Sadly their official rules are only available in the Scrutinator Servalen Forge World box. And you can take lots of them.
- The FAQ clarified that Enforcers can use both the Black Market and the Trading Post. Note that the Patrolmen (Gangers) do not have limitations on using Special or Heavy Weapons.
- Heavy Concussion Rams have been fixed by the FAQ to have the Blast(3") trait. A good BS is less relevant if you are shooting template weapons. Also counts for the template shot of the shotgun.
- Stubguns are very good in close range, because they have a +2 short range bonus. So the Rookie now hit at 3+. Combine this with smoke and infrasight to attack people from within smoke. In battles with vehicles, consider a smoke launcher for an extremely reliably source of smoke. On a transport bed you can even take the Rookies with you (e.g. Goliath Rockgrinder)
- As Rookies and their equipment are totally free of charge, supposedly they don't increase your Crew rating, Gang rating or Wealth. You you can be many and still be the underdog and get more gang tactics or even Underdog boons.
- If a Rookie dies, his equipment, apart of the armour, goes into your stash and can be sold for at least 15cr. So Rookies dying becomes a good thing.
- If you want to be "that guy", the extra cheesy thing is to retire all your rookies after every battle and get all their equipment to your stash, so you get at least 20cr for selling the stuff per Rookie. But I don't think you will make any friends using this money exploit.
- If there are no fighters left other than Rookies, you have nothing to lose and there is no reason to ever give up, because if they die or are so crippled that you want to retire them, you get a new one and more money.
- Concussion Weapons are a very potent way to get vehicles and their crews to fail their handling checks (-2 to handling), which is a major path to wrecking them. Enforcers are the only faction with easy access to them.
- Concussion Weapons are a very potent way to make people fall from high buildings by failing their initiative checks.
- Also consider to use a concussion weapon to lower initiative of enemies and then use Rookies or other fighters with magnacles to lock them in place and then move on to fight the others. According to FAQ magnacles can be used as part of a charge (even though I'd really prefer them to give a more clear description of how that is supposed to work).
Oh another one: Your off-brand book is not telling you the original rules. You get a rookie for each fighter that is dead or retired, not only Enfocers. Exotic pets are also fighters.
Thanks for letting me know mate and sorry if this video missed some stuff. I had no idea about the FAQ
Pretty sure it says you can only ever get one free rookie per fight, if 3 of your rookies or ganger dies, you only get 1 free rookie back. Book of judgment P.32 : If the enforcer Patrol gang delete one or more dead or retiring fighters during step 6a, they may recruit a single Palanite Rookie, this Fresh face recruit it added for free.
@@0neKingD0wn The likely hood of more than 1 ganger perma dying in one game is tiny
We have a first-time player in our campaign who picked enforcers, and he's kicking our asses. He has only lost 1 game out of 5.
He has a lot of blast template weapons and it's working really well for him.
Correct me if I'm wrong,
1)they come with a stub gun but don't have to keep it.
2) You don't need the bounty hunter to have to Cyber mastiff.
With the stub gun, you can stash it or even sell it but I have heard different things from different folks about the stub gun and the cyber mastiffs is something I ain't entirely sure about either. You either need the bounty hunter to unlock the cyber mastiffs or they can be brought normally. The thing that annoys me with regular enforcers is the small weapon pool and how expensive everything is. The bolter is cheap but the gangers are not and the gangers are kinda lackluster
rules as written you have to keep the stub gun unless its on a leader or champion they can choose not to use it. normal gangers cant swap weapons unless you house rule it
@wraithdino1217 I guess we do house rule it then.
In the original rules every charcter can have three (3) weapons and these come witha stub gun so two choices left each.
It is a special champion that has the Cyber Mastiff right. That si one (1) out of the two (2) champions max they can have.
@@PMMagro you can take the mastiff with a bounty hunter sure but it was also added to the normal enforcer equipment pool in the same box so your normal champions and leader can take it aswell
House rules make things way better, for example how I've homebrewed rules for an enforcer specific piece of territory and plan to make some more.
This old video of mine is going to haunt me lmao, I'm going to have to update it
1) Trading Post;
2) You need to vary your table layout if you think the sniper rifle is never useful;
3) Trading Post;
4) If you’re having trouble with Subjugators in mêlée, you need to practice your positioning more;
5) Trading Post;
6) Magnacles don’t kill them, that’s the point. Get that money!
7) Trading Post,
this is an old video when I was still new to the game lmao
They are so much fun to build and paint though.
True
ive played them and enjoyed converting new weapons onto them
people i play with though usually use them for their gangers having heavier armour
I picked House Delaque.
Kinda thinking about buying some to Khorne them up to serve as berserkers. Tell me ya can't see enforcers getting a bit too fond of bashing in skulls?
I picked Palanites. They are not very good as a starting gang. I used magnacles and they are actually quite good against a low strength opponent. But that's if you survive the close combat charge.
Yes they can use any weapon you can buy.
Dude, read some FAQ before making a statement)
Lmao this is an old video. A video that's now horrendously out of date
Somewhat surprised it took you this long to make a video-rant on Enforcers :D
Yes, they are one of the most mediocre gangs in the game, but a few House rulings or making them Bad-zone enforcers can go a long way to make them more engaging; here are a few suggestions we use locally:
- Allow fighters to discard/exchange weapons (so you can get rid of unwanted Stub guns taking up weapon slots).
- Allow Enforcers to buy and equip Legal weapons and equipment from the Trading post.
- Allow Enforcers to be Corrupted by Gene stealers or Chaos cults (Gene stealer cult or Tzeench infiltration/corruption of the local Precinct gives you some nice modelling/story-building opportunities).
Cheers! :)
Bad zone enforcers are awesome
A boltgun with 4+ AM for 50 is a bad weapon? Are you high or something?
It deals the same damage as combat shotgun, while having longer range, +1 to hit at 12" and AP-1 AND it is cheaper by 10.
Enforcer boltgun is probably one of the good things for enforcers.
Then you skip over photon flash grenades, despite using stun carbines.
Don't get me wrong, enforcers are pretty outdated and their stats are trash, but you clearly have not even tried to make them work.
Oh I agree but what annoys me with the boltgun is that it is incredibly swingy. The enforcers have decent blast weapons but are in general not great, especially as a starter gang for someone who has just started necromunda
@@IdioticSynergy Could you clarify what do you mean by 'swingy'? Even if you get only 1 hit, S4 AP-1 D2 it''s enough to trash a lot of targets early in the campaign. For the price I'd say it is very solid, especially with how you are not afraid of random jams compared to the regular bolter (AM4+ is easy to reload even without additional support).
The bane of enforcers are their crappy stats (BS4+ champs and leader, ugh), but the trusty enforcer bolter is one of the best guns in the game.
@@JawRippa Swingy as in when paired with their BS skill of a 4 because it's a 50-50, Also though the bolter can be good. I would personally use blast weapons and rely on the scatter dice to still hit. Also though the bolter is cheap. The ganger is expensive. And although I'm still relatively new to the game. I do think badzone enforcers are alot better and varied with weapon choice and freedom
This is why nobody should play necromunda completely RAW, just letting enforcers buy weapons from the trading post fixes alot of their issues and makes them way more fun for both sides of the table.
Your enforcers know the criminals won't play by the rules, so why should they!!
Good point and I agree ^^
Ahhh yes that famous combo of plasma and DRUGS!!!!!!!!!
House echer have plasma, poison and drugs lmao
@@IdioticSynergy off course poison too lol just incase drugs and plasma doesn't work 😂
@@thomasholden3323 it's all good, I hoped you enjoyed the video mate
@@IdioticSynergy sure have look forward to more
@@thomasholden3323 that's good to hear cause I love talking about this hobby ^^
I have the old judge dredd adeptus arbites
Repeat that last statement facing the glass wall please.
seems like someone didnt read an FAQ and a skill issue to me
True but this video is older and I was new to the game lmao
Kitbash and proxy
This is an old video
I take it my old Book of Judgement is now out of date? Your list doesn't look like what's in my book, but I've also been out of the game for a bit, considering getting back IN.
Book of judgment is still valid and this is an old video. I can say that Enforcers have grown on me somewhat ^^
I agree with most of what you said. But I truly believe that the Enforcers are good for the arbiter. He or she can just play against the odd player who might have a runaway winning streak.
You dont like enforcer boltguns or krak grenades? I disagree so much!
It's an old outdated video
Boltguns, concussion carbines, smoke grenades and photon flash grenades should be the core of any enforcer gang. Get a grenade launcher with kraks later on so you have some high strength attacks. Forget melee, it's a trap.
How are you getting into a position to shoot a shotgun but cannot get into a position to shoot a boltgun? 😂 The best Goliath, Orlock and Escher gangs make heavy use of boltguns and they're not even the cheaper and much improved enforcer boltguns!
I play badzone enforcers and they have plenty of drawbacks like scarce on boltguns and concussion carbines. Sure they get autoguns and get slightly cheaper gangers in scum, but you still need plenty of actual enforcers to make up the gang. A starting badzone gang ends up looking very similar to standard enforcers until you get credits to invest in scum with lasguns. I think you need to have a look at what the actual enforcers in a badzone enforcers gang get access to at the start - it's not everything you think it is. And the doggy is terrible - all of them are.
This is an old video lmao I've changed my mind since then
The only reason these exist is if you're playing them as an arbitrator. They're my go to stooges for any campaign.
House rules solve everything, let enforcers use the trading post and black market :) a few other little changes would help them a lot.
True but rules as is just pain lol I do hope you enjoyed the video
You don't need a house rule for this. They are allowed to use both Trading Post and Black Market for quite a while as per FAQ.
@@Dimedo Didn't know about the FAQ lol
Is this a troll video ?? 😂😂
Stop moaning ffs. Necromunda is about silliness, storytelling and fun not a meta list. Play Killteam with a Adeptus Arbites Exaction Squads if you want to be cheesy beardy non fluff player . Imagine being the law and playing it as such in Necromunda! I fears your missing the point.
Someone is going on a hate binge through my early videos lmao
@@IdioticSynergy not me. Its the first ive seen. How old is this?
Edit:No youre right its the second. Yeah i watch Necromunda content it pops into my algo. Sorry for being so negative all the time but i guess we just dont see things the same way. Its a lot to do with your delivery. You are making the content and putting it out there after all. Im just viewing it and giving my opinion. Dont stop by any means, but allow me to shit on you...figuratively. We would probably be best of mates in real life but this is the Internet so damn it all!
@@Le_Petomane Lol it's nearly a year old, it's all good mate
@@IdioticSynergy Well i suppose its good to know the algorithm is working to an extent, even if it does bring horrible "see you next Tuesday's" like myself. All in all its been quite entertaining on a Sunday night planning my next campaign and going back and forth. You have anew hate subscriber, in name only nothing against you really.
@@Le_Petomane lol cheers mate