Thanks for checking it out 👊 I got a black handled version years ago that i used lightly. I remember it was really nice in edc tasks. Will have to put it through my work routine to see how it holds up. I’m sure I’ll be sharpening it again on video soon enough 😁
interesting progression. I love that sp 120. once you get the hang of it you can get really fine toothy edges straight off that stone with just a few strops on ultra fine compound. I wouldn't use anything more than like half a micron if you want to preserve the teeth though. according to larrin's catra tests, a 120 grit edge scores like 50% higher in a catra test vs a polished edge but ofc it's going to be a bit more likely to chip.
I always suspected coarse edges gave better results in cut testing, just never bothered to confirm it. Sadly, just about any edge loses bite, if you use diamond or cbn. At least, in my experience. Cbn seems to work a tad better, but everytime i have tried them, they just do. It’s yet another reason why i prefer plain ole white compound 🤷♂️ You’ve given me something new to experiment with however. I’ll have to fiddle with a few and test my results.
Valid point. Both these were really dull, from my sharpening notch. Multiple times, i slipped with the file, and raked across the edge. The angles were also very obtuse. Around 25-27°/side.
I used a diamond file, and I have several videos that demonstrate the process. It is a bit too slow and tedious. For that, I would most likely do a separate video, but I already have several examples.
Love the channel, man. You’re my favorite sharpener on TH-cam lol. I’ve been wanting to pick up some Nubatama stones which is quite difficult. I saw a random comment claiming that the Gesshin 400 is an identical stone to the Imanishi Latte 400? Do you know if that’s true? It looks like CKTG has an Imanishi Latte. Would that be the same stone that Ken was selling under the Nubatama line? Finding the 1k extra hard or the 2k speckled you’re using here seems to be impossible. Anything similar you would recommend? Like you, I love hard stones with lots of feedback. I currently have the Shapton pro 320, 1k, and 5k. Any advice would be appreciated. Hope you’re doing well!
I dont own a Gesshin, nor plan to. They seem way over priced. So i can not make the comparison. The Latte I purchased did come from Cktg. It was under $50 if memory serves. Worth every penny. As far as analogs to the 1 and 2k Nubatama, there are a few choices that are close. None are truly the same, so unless you can get ahold of the real thing, you’re limited. However, the closest i can think of, you already have. The Shapton Pro 1k. The hardness is close, as is the speed and scratchy feel. Not quite there, but its the best option, imo. The Pride abrasive 1k is another, as far as speed is concerned. The hardness/scratchy feel, is difficult to replicate, and it just isn’t quite here. Finally, I want to say the Norton waterstone 1k, is similiar in speed, and maybe, slight scratchy feel. I havent used it in awhile so can’t say with certainty Hardness and scratchy feel, are hard combinations to match. The Latte has both, but it is a 400 grit, not 1k.
On another note, if you want to try purchasing some, i would try on cktg forums. Ken used to frequent there often. I know he had a large following of sharpeners, on that forum. Maybe if money is right, someone will bite.
Dude I totally forgot! Bernal Cutlery Takarazukushi combo stone 1/4k. The 1k is damn near spot on, the Nubatama 1k. Not 'extra hard', but close enough. Same coloration, same scratchy feel. The 4k reminds me of the Nubatama Bamboo 5k. Again, not quite as hard, but pretty damn close. edit:: Bernal Cutlery Takarazukushi - #1200 Grit Blue Marble Japanese Whetstone The 1200 blue marble, looks suspiciously like the 2k Nubatama. Are they the same? I don't know. I need to get one and see
Hi jeff, best regards, so the kabar is really good one, and sharpening very well, very good knife, thanks for the session of sharpening 👍👍👍
Thanks for checking it out 👊
I got a black handled version years ago that i used lightly. I remember it was really nice in edc tasks. Will have to put it through my work routine to see how it holds up. I’m sure I’ll be sharpening it again on video soon enough 😁
Jeff doing his thing! Good stuff. My knife next!
They are priced very well 👍
thanks for the upload Jef !
Thanks for checking it out. This one is not everyone’s flavor 😉
interesting progression. I love that sp 120. once you get the hang of it you can get really fine toothy edges straight off that stone with just a few strops on ultra fine compound. I wouldn't use anything more than like half a micron if you want to preserve the teeth though. according to larrin's catra tests, a 120 grit edge scores like 50% higher in a catra test vs a polished edge but ofc it's going to be a bit more likely to chip.
I always suspected coarse edges gave better results in cut testing, just never bothered to confirm it. Sadly, just about any edge loses bite, if you use diamond or cbn. At least, in my experience. Cbn seems to work a tad better, but everytime i have tried them, they just do. It’s yet another reason why i prefer plain ole white compound 🤷♂️
You’ve given me something new to experiment with however. I’ll have to fiddle with a few and test my results.
@@Jef nice
Enjoyed the video.
Thanks 🙏
Throw in a pre-cut test so we can get an idea of what you are starting with.
Valid point. Both these were really dull, from my sharpening notch. Multiple times, i slipped with the file, and raked across the edge. The angles were also very obtuse. Around 25-27°/side.
@@Jef Did you use a diamond file for the notch? Maybe you could have included filing the notch in the vidio.
I used a diamond file, and I have several videos that demonstrate the process. It is a bit too slow and tedious. For that, I would most likely do a separate video, but I already have several examples.
Can you clearly post your stones and grit plz? Thanks
I do. On every video. Check the “description” under the video. All the information is there
Love the channel, man. You’re my favorite sharpener on TH-cam lol.
I’ve been wanting to pick up some Nubatama stones which is quite difficult. I saw a random comment claiming that the Gesshin 400 is an identical stone to the Imanishi Latte 400? Do you know if that’s true?
It looks like CKTG has an Imanishi Latte. Would that be the same stone that Ken was selling under the Nubatama line?
Finding the 1k extra hard or the 2k speckled you’re using here seems to be impossible. Anything similar you would recommend? Like you, I love hard stones with lots of feedback. I currently have the Shapton pro 320, 1k, and 5k.
Any advice would be appreciated. Hope you’re doing well!
I dont own a Gesshin, nor plan to. They seem way over priced. So i can not make the comparison. The Latte I purchased did come from Cktg. It was under $50 if memory serves. Worth every penny.
As far as analogs to the 1 and 2k Nubatama, there are a few choices that are close. None are truly the same, so unless you can get ahold of the real thing, you’re limited. However, the closest i can think of, you already have. The Shapton Pro 1k. The hardness is close, as is the speed and scratchy feel. Not quite there, but its the best option, imo. The Pride abrasive 1k is another, as far as speed is concerned. The hardness/scratchy feel, is difficult to replicate, and it just isn’t quite here. Finally, I want to say the Norton waterstone 1k, is similiar in speed, and maybe, slight scratchy feel. I havent used it in awhile so can’t say with certainty
Hardness and scratchy feel, are hard combinations to match. The Latte has both, but it is a 400 grit, not 1k.
On another note, if you want to try purchasing some, i would try on cktg forums. Ken used to frequent there often. I know he had a large following of sharpeners, on that forum. Maybe if money is right, someone will bite.
@@JefGreat info, thanks man
Dude I totally forgot!
Bernal Cutlery Takarazukushi combo stone 1/4k. The 1k is damn near spot on, the Nubatama 1k. Not 'extra hard', but close enough. Same coloration, same scratchy feel. The 4k reminds me of the Nubatama Bamboo 5k. Again, not quite as hard, but pretty damn close.
edit::
Bernal Cutlery Takarazukushi - #1200 Grit Blue Marble Japanese Whetstone
The 1200 blue marble, looks suspiciously like the 2k Nubatama. Are they the same? I don't know. I need to get one and see