Wow, didn't know you could use Zadar like that 😮. And didn't know there was a CV expander.. My biggest gripe with Zadar is that there aren't enough 'conventional' envelope shapes.. Thanks for this mate 👍
I love Zadar. I’ve been using it for several years. It and Kermit mk3 are crazy powerful combo for a smaller system. You gotta get the expander. I really like modulating time and warp. I’ll modulate warp with a bi-polar LFO and time with a uni-polar copy. Linking channels is really great. Using a linked channel to modulate an other. The phase parameter is really useful here. It acts as a gate delay for linked channels. Linking channels means you only need one gate to trigger both channels so one can set the phase of channel 2 to like 30 percent and modulate the time of channel one with very accurate control over when that modulation happens. When you get into linking channels and using or modulating repeats shit can get wild. You need a cv mixer to mix your outputs to get multi envelope complex voltages. Set the phase of channel 3 past 50%, trigger channel one with a few repeats ( modulating speed and repeats is killer) the first envelope will repeat the second will be triggered. You can get really powerful dub-step type wahwah bass sounds this way. Zadar can be a really cool audio rate FM source as well using the techniques you displayed in your video.
Thanks so much for this post... some really interesting tips you've got there! I've been playing around a bit with some crazy self-modulation and getting some useful stuff out of it. 🤘
It appears the envelope shapes don’t adhere to any sort of fundamental pitch centre as with a wavetable oscillator. Could this not account for the pitch tracking oddity when sweeping the shapes?✌️
I have a theory on that. It tracks well without warping the shapes, but some (not all) shapes have what sounds like slight pitch bending when warping. Shapes with many peaks have strong upper harmonic content, and warping changes those peaks in a way that is very similar to phase shifting (which can also give audible pitch changes). In this case, the fundamental stays constant, but the partials get phase shifted.
Great demonstration of this function, thank you 🙏 I need to try it immediately 😊
Awesome! Let me know if you make any good discoveries! 👍
Wow, didn't know you could use Zadar like that 😮. And didn't know there was a CV expander.. My biggest gripe with Zadar is that there aren't enough 'conventional' envelope shapes.. Thanks for this mate 👍
Crazy, right? I'm trying out some more CV pairings now as well as some crazy self-patching. 🤖🎸💀
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I love Zadar. I’ve been using it for several years. It and Kermit mk3 are crazy powerful combo for a smaller system. You gotta get the expander. I really like modulating time and warp. I’ll modulate warp with a bi-polar LFO and time with a uni-polar copy. Linking channels is really great. Using a linked channel to modulate an other. The phase parameter is really useful here. It acts as a gate delay for linked channels. Linking channels means you only need one gate to trigger both channels so one can set the phase of channel 2 to like 30 percent and modulate the time of channel one with very accurate control over when that modulation happens. When you get into linking channels and using or modulating repeats shit can get wild. You need a cv mixer to mix your outputs to get multi envelope complex voltages. Set the phase of channel 3 past 50%, trigger channel one with a few repeats ( modulating speed and repeats is killer) the first envelope will repeat the second will be triggered. You can get really powerful dub-step type wahwah bass sounds this way. Zadar can be a really cool audio rate FM source as well using the techniques you displayed in your video.
Thanks so much for this post... some really interesting tips you've got there! I've been playing around a bit with some crazy self-modulation and getting some useful stuff out of it. 🤘
Super informative!!
Glad you liked it!
It appears the envelope shapes don’t adhere to any sort of fundamental pitch centre as with a wavetable oscillator. Could this not account for the pitch tracking oddity when sweeping the shapes?✌️
I have a theory on that. It tracks well without warping the shapes, but some (not all) shapes have what sounds like slight pitch bending when warping. Shapes with many peaks have strong upper harmonic content, and warping changes those peaks in a way that is very similar to phase shifting (which can also give audible pitch changes). In this case, the fundamental stays constant, but the partials get phase shifted.
I wish I knew what all this means …I just turn knobs until it sounds like a sci-fi b movie
Nothing wrong with that approach at all! 🤖👽👻🧟♀️
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