I will try to explaa it - because, there is an explanation that makes sense. You see, those who have a problem with homosexual marriage are actually expressing a problem with themselves. There is a part of them that has homosexual feelings and urges. And, they are not comfortable about that. And, it makes them even more uncomfortable for them to see others who have those same feelings and urges reconciling them and embracing them - because, so far, they have been unable to do so themselves. And, rather than recognize their own problem with their own feelings and deal with them, they prefer to lash out at others who have shown the courage that they lack themselves. Remember, true heterosexuals give homosexuals and homosexuality very little thought. So, notice, when someone is obsessed with both. They are revealing their "secret" for all to see.
This is just another example of a religious individual trying to force his religious beliefs and bigotry onto everyone while dishonestly presenting "marriage" as an exclusively religious union.
@@johnburn8031umm, they are. Plenty of conservatives are really against no fault divorce. They want to control women and exclude gay people from public life, and these goals don't have to conflict with each other.
One time when Bill Maher brought up Michele Bachmann on his show (this was maybe ten-ish years ago) and talked about how she had tweeted or said in an interview something that basically amounted to her being happy that things were going to sh*t in the country (in her mind), because that was clearly just a sign of the end times and The Rapture being just around the corner and all that nonsense... He said that we should be able to keep people like this away from decision-making. "You don't get to vote on next year's budget, because it doesn't concern you!"
While believing in a higher power is not technically insane, obeying imaginary voices is symptomatic of schizophrenia, though the line itself is drawn at the point you become a danger to yourself or others. Romans 11:34-36 "Who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been able to give him advice?"
As a gay man, this is what scares me and my husband. It's even scarier because my husband was born in Japan (Japanese mother, American father), so his citizenship is also possibly on the chopping block. He could be deported to Japan as a stateless person and we couldn't fall back on our marriage to give him a legal path to stay. Ya know, not to mention our healthcare, home, etc....
Uhhh… homosexuality itself was literally a crime in Texas 21 years ago… not exactly ancient history. So don’t act like this is some kind of new and shocking idea. I’m not saying it SHOULD be that way, but people are acting like this would be going back to the 1300’s, when it would only be going back to 2003. In 2003, they made homosexuality legal, and Texas didn’t have legal gay marriage until 2015. And both of those only changed in Texas due to Supreme Court overhaul. Prohibition against sodomy is literally still on the books in Texas; it just can’t be enforced.
It scares me too. I’m in a very similar situation. I live in a red state. My husband was born in Mexico and he has serious health issues. He depends on the health insurance provided by my employer, which could easily be lost if our marriage was no longer recognized. Not to mention the risk to his immigrant status.
They’ve been arguing for states rights for years but now that they have federal power, watch and see them go after states which have made abortion and marriage rights a part of their constitutions.
Agreed. That said, the argument that conservatives are going to make is that they won't prevent you from living with anyone you want but they also don't have to let you have the social/legal advantages of marriage. Which is absolutely BS but what can you do?
Why is it that they argue the legality of marriage through faith traditions? I do not understand it. It’s a societally recognized contract between consenting parties for powers and responsibilities regarding shared assets and autonomy. Last I checked, there’s no requirement for a deity to consent on these forms. How would they even sign?
@@Urzalyr exactly. You can in fact have a “holy matrimony” where you get “married” in your religion, but it’s not a valid legal contract, nor is it recognized by the state but you are free to do that. If you want the benefits provided by legal marriage, you must purchase a marriage license and file the document with your state.
@ common law marriage also presents a problematic resolution when faith is involved. Involved parties would have to live together out of wedlock for a prescribed duration to qualify.
The original Constitution of the United States that was ratified in 1789 had only ONE REFERENCE TO RELIGION: [Article 6] No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any Office or Public Trust under the United States. The de facto motto of the United States, adopted as part of the Great Seal of the U.S. by an Act of Congress in 1782, was E. Pluribus Unum (Out of Many, One). Congress changed it 174 years later (1956) to "In God We Trust". The ORIGINAL 'Pledge of Allegiance' was written in 1892 by Baptist Minister Francis Bellamy who DID NOT INCLUDE the words "Under God". Those were added by Congress 62 year later (1954). The U.S. didn't issue Paper Currency until 1861, & 'In God We Trust' didn't appear on it for 96 years (1957). “As the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion" ~ Treaty of Tripoli; initiated under President George Washington, 1796, signed into law by President John Adams, 1797, ratified unanimously by the Senate, 1797, published in full in all 13 states, with no record of complaint or dissent. "I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another." --Thomas Jefferson, letter to Elbridge Gerry, January 26, 1799 “Christianity neither is, nor ever was part of the common law.” Thomas Jefferson “Religion and government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together.” James Madison “The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” John Adams "In every country, in every age, the priest has always been hostile to liberty...He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection of his own." Thomas Jefferson Founding Father Thomas Paine on Christianity. “The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race, have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion…” "A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be great or a democracy," Teddy Roosevelt "The purpose of Separation of Church and State is to keep forever from these shores, the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe for centuries." - James Madison AMERICA WAS NOT FOUNDED ON "CHRISTIAN VALUES", IT WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A CHRISTIAN NATION, IT NEVER WILL BE A CHRISTIAN NATION. AMERICA IS A SECULAR COUNTRY. YOUR "FREEDUM OF RELIGION' ENDS WHERE MY CONSTITUTIONAL & BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS, LIBERTIES & PRIVLEGES BEGIN. DON'T LIKE IT, D!3 MAD ABOUT IT.
Also, if the marriage is childless, or people who are too old to bear children get married, will it be considered a valid marriage in the eyes of religious zealots?
Same for if the children of immigrants who naturalized. Ex: my husband was born in Japan to a Japanese mother (US father). His mother naturalized when he was 17. Does that mean he loses his citizenship? (Since his citizenship comes from statute and not the constitution, it's a real risk...)
@@goodun2974Not to mention the married couples who opt to remain childfree-will their marriages be forcibly dissolved because they’re deliberately “violating the purpose of marriage,” as in “refusing” to procreate? And what about couples who got married in a non-Christian religious ceremony or a completely secular ceremony involving a justice of the peace? Will their marriages be deemed “invalid” because they didn’t get married in a Christian ceremony or church?
What about how it looks right now? They already pushed us off the cliff. We're just watching the ground rush up to us. At least, it ends with an abrupt stop at the bottom.
Jesus Christ NEVER said a single word about or against homosexuality, regardless of the fact that Jesus IS NOT & NEVER WAS real. This is just Josh’s excuse/reason for being an a$$hole. I also think he may be closeted & repressed being that I live close to Oxford & I know the kind of RepubliKKKan religaholics who live there.
well from their point of view we are god's subjects. what they don't get is that god is a dictator and we should really be organising a rebellion, if he weren't imaginary. what beats me is we LET these dimbos order us about when they have no god to show for it - we are essentially obeying their imaginary friend - that is the really dumb part.
Well, see because Christianity is for everyone. Everyone that doesn't wanna burn. Or so I'm told. That's the deal. Also, cuz everyone knows that God exists. Atheists pretend not to know just cause they love sinning so much. Or so I'm told. And if God exists it certainly must be their God. "The one true God!!!" they say when I ask them which God certainly must exist. And the ppl who tell me that seem pretty certain. Absolutely no doubt about it. So, i figure that with so much certainty they must be pretty smart and know what they're talking about. So that's the answer to your question. So I'm told.
Well, you see Christianity is for everyone. Everyone that doesn't wanna burn, that is. Or so I'm told by some very confident persons. Also, everyone already knows that God exists anyhow. Atheists just pretend to not know because they love sinning so much. So I'm told. And it must be the "One true Lord of all" In case you were wondering WHICH God is the one that exists with absolute certainty. I've been told this by many ppl. They seem super confident so i assume they're pretty smort and know exactly what they're talking about.
Side Note: liberal content creator Jesse Dollemore said something off hand yesterday that fits here, and I think could be quote of the year. This is not word for word, but he basically said: "Our political views should not define our morals, our morals should define our political views." This guy made me think of that.
Being related to what? If you's talkin' 'bout what I think you're talking about all i can say is.... Only a few times in my life have i ventured beyond the confines of trurbridge Alabama. It's a slice of gods country. There's some sick, hurtin' people in need of Jesus out there in the wider world. Folks ain't godly like in Trurbridge. Sickness of the heart is everywhere. I heard of folk out there having sexual relations with people they ain't even related to. At all!! Not sisters, not cousins, nothing. That shit is unbiblical, unnatural, and one hundred percent disgustinj. I rebook it. Praze Jezus
As Jewish people are 2% to 3% of the USA population, I am so angered (& frightened) by antisemites’ false, exaggerated, dangerous beliefs. 2018, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA.
Is it actually feasible to ban gay marriage nationwide? Article IV, Section 1 says "Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State", which means that if (e.g.) California allows gay marriage then all other states must respect that marriage. I suppose states could ban new gay marriages being formed within their borders, but that would simply lead to 'marriage tourism' and move money from the paleoconservative states to the decent ones.
Wasn't salvation suppose to be individual and personal? This people get so involve in others people lives they themselves are missing in living their own.
@@douglashogg4848 gotcha. Agreed. But yeah, I’m just worried for my marriage with people like him out there hating on us. My husband and I are boring people who barely go out or talk to people as it is lol. I don’t get why people want our marriage dissolved, or why others think we should be executed.
I don't understand how one can claim religious discrimination in cases where they weren't allowed to discriminate (14th Amendment) or how one can reasonably argue that the "one man plus one woman" definition of marriage isn't inherently a religious belief which therefore can't be established/endorsed by the government (1st Amendment), in good conscience. If gay people getting married is against your religion, then don't get married to someone of the same gender. If SCOTUS decides that Christians have the right to discriminate on one thing, I think it'll open the door to all religions having that option and create a slippery slope. Anti-descrimination laws must trump Religious Exemptions.
Now, I’m not religious or anything but aren’t right wingers doing something that is very very evil? Like say, using gods name in vain, which is not allowed? Kind of curious what happens when they pass away and meet whatever angel better yet demon that appears at the pearly gates. I mean, if it is actually real anyway.
Oh they’re absolutely evil people. Bending their religion and the word of their god to fit their agenda and spark outrage. They are the very reason I left religion. When MAGA put their hats in, I realized religion wasn’t inherently evil but rather a faction of that group are. They have completely abandoned their messiah. Jesus, if real, was dope. These people suck and hate him apparently. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
My state kept our democratic governor but voted for a republican president as a whole 🤨 like what's up with that, yeah sure ms. harris is a member of the same party as our governor, and we evidently LIKE our governor because we voted to keep her around but i'm instead going to vote for the republican party. ok.
I don't get swing voters* (I do now. but for awful reasons on their part), who goes from _"Yeah, I think it's way past time our healthcare system catches up with the former third world"_ one year straight into _"Seig FAIL! Mein Groeppenpigger!"_ the next? *CNN showed by interviewing the swingers that they're a bunch of conceited narcissists who make it all about them and they're the idiots voting based on who they'd rather meet in a bar for drinks.
Maybe if they hadnt made marriage a legal contract with tax, property and other benefits they could talk sbout this. BUT. They did, so to do that would surely be against anti discrimination laws
Amos 5:21-24 21 “I hate, I despise your religious festivals; your assemblies are a stench to me. 22 Even though you bring me burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them. Though you bring choice fellowship offerings, I will have no regard for them. 23 Away with the noise of your songs! I will not listen to the music of your harps. 24 But let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream! Hosea 2:11 I will stop all their celebrations: their yearly festivals, their New Moons, their Sabbath days-all their appointed festivals.
Who is this guy trying to tell people who they can love. I can tell you one thing you are not a Christian when you try to destroy love and also judge. He better mind his own business before he FAFO. Cause by the looks of things people are no longer taking crap from anyone anymore.
re: the point about not wasting time arguing with certain people, the ones who are gung-ho in their beliefs about something.... I often hear a reasoning from people who DO engage/debate those kinds of people, that they don't even hope to convince that other, Polar Opposite guy otherwise. They engage in debates on public platforms, like social media, in the hopes that some viewer or reader who isn't part of the debate itself, might read or listen and start to come around.
1 John 2:15-17 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Peter grew bold and asked, “Lord, tell us concerning the Father. Who is he? And why did he send you?” 2 And Jesus answered, “Simon, you are blessed, for you do not suppose you know that which must be a mystery to all flesh. 3 For my Father is not the maker of the world of matter which you see around you, a world that is filled with death and despair, 4 but which, seeing with the fever of the flesh and its desire, mortals deem full of every delight and comfort and so waste their lives in pursuit of illusions. 5 No, all these things only enslave mankind to the material creator. 6 My Father is exalted high above this one, whence he is called the Most High God. 7 For no one speaks of anything as ‘the highest,’ unless there be others below it. Chapter 3 1 “And you mortals are partly his creations, in that he has fashioned the body from unclean foulness. 2 But your souls he has stolen from the Light-World of my Father. 3 With them he has imparted to your flesh bodies an appearance of life, which is but a shadow of the life you knew in the Pleroma of the Most High. 4 Here you abide in ignorance, never knowing either your origin or your destiny. 5 And for lack of that knowledge you perish and are reborn into new bodies time and again, so long as the way out be hidden from you. 6 And that is why the Father sent me into the world, in the likeness of your flesh, that I might make known these truths to you.” The Gospel of Mary Magdalene
@@jamesverner9132 it’s just about happiness. Thats the issue. When you are married you get certain protections and tax incentives. Why is that just for straight people who get married?
You don't need a marriage to be happy but you surely need one to have access to basic rights like being covered by insurance and being able to visit your spouse in a hospital
Civil marriages come with a ton of rights and obligations, that many others besides yourself appreciate. One example is the right to visit and make medical decisions for spouses that might be unable to do so for themselves.
52. Then she learns about her illumination as she removes this material world from herself. 53. Meanwhile, her true form clothes her from within, her matrimonial clothing is placed upon her with the beauty of the spirit, rather than the pride of the flesh. 54. Then she learns about the depth of her existence and becomes part of her fold, as her shepherd stands in the doorway. 55. In return for the shame and scorn she received in the material world, she receives ten thousand times the mercy and joy. 56. She left the body to those who gave it to her, and they were ashamed. 57. Meanwhile, the merchants of the body sat down and cried, for they could not render business with that body. Nor could they find any stock outside of it. 58. They had worked hard to shape the body of this soul, intending to eliminate the unseen soul. 59. As a result, they were ashamed of their efforts. They suffered, losing the one for whom they had worked. 60. They did not realize that she has an invisible spiritual body. They thought, ‘We are her shepherd who provides for her.’ 61. Yet they didn’t realize she knew another path - one that is hidden from them. This is what the true shepherd had taught her through knowledge. 62. But these ignorant ones do not seek God. They also don’t seek their home - their place of refuge. 63. Instead, they live like animals. Their wickedness exceeds the pagans. 64. First of all, they don’t seek God. Their hard hearts drag them down into their ruthlessness. 65. Indeed, if they discover a person seeking salvation, their hard heart begins to work on that person. 66. And if the person doesn’t stop their search, they ruthlessly murder him and think they have done the right thing. 67. Certainly they are followers of the adversary. Because even pagans will be charitable. 68. And ultimately they know God exists in the spiritual realm - ruling over the idols they worship. They just haven’t heard the teachings so they could seek His path. 69. Therefore, the irrational person hears the call but ignores the place they are being called to. 70. That person does not ask when hearing the teaching: ‘Where is the temple within which I should worship and practice my faith? 71. Due to his irrationality, this person is actually worse than a pagan. Because the pagans understand the path to their stone temple - which will be destroyed. 72. They worship the idol their hearts are set on because they have faith. 73. But the irrational person, to whom the teachings have taught, ‘Seek and investigate the paths you should take, because there is nothing better than this.’ 74. In the end, what makes the heart hard impacts the spirit, together with the power of ignorance and the wickedness of wrong-doing. 75. These do not allow the spirit to rise up, preventing the person from working to understand what there is to learn about trusting in Him. 76. Yet the rational soul who has worked hard in her search came to know God. 77. She worked on learning and endured the body’s suffering, her feet worn from following after the teachers as she learned about the Mysterious One. Lost scriptures The Authoritative Teaching
I wish people were talking more about the difference between having no laws addressing an action, having laws protecting an action, and making laws restricting an action. This is the pivotal difference between A LOT of what they're trying to do. There is a difference between having no law sanctifying a marriage between same s e x couples prior to determining the marriage laws protected same s e x marriage, and writing legislation specifically decrying that same s e x marriage is punishable by law (making it illegal).
As a straight man I just want to ask this guy one thing, how does two guys being married affect him in any way? I just don’t understand this at all.
He’s gay, and his boyfriend keeps bugging him to get married?
That's what I always said: Only gay men cares who other men have sex with. Straight men cares only who their SO has sex with.
I will try to explaa it - because, there is an explanation that makes sense. You see, those who have a problem with homosexual marriage are actually expressing a problem with themselves. There is a part of them that has homosexual feelings and urges. And, they are not comfortable about that. And, it makes them even more uncomfortable for them to see others who have those same feelings and urges reconciling them and embracing them - because, so far, they have been unable to do so themselves.
And, rather than recognize their own problem with their own feelings and deal with them, they prefer to lash out at others who have shown the courage that they lack themselves.
Remember, true heterosexuals give homosexuals and homosexuality very little thought. So, notice, when someone is obsessed with both. They are revealing their "secret" for all to see.
Why? Because his religion says so, that is why he has an issue with it.
They want control.
This is just another example of a religious individual trying to force his religious beliefs and bigotry onto everyone while dishonestly presenting "marriage" as an exclusively religious union.
hes no more religious than any other demonkrat in disguise
Honestly they should do away with that concept. Get rid of marriage in general
And if it works, they'll probably try to remove marriage rights from nonreligious straight people next.
It's interesting that they are not advocating for making divorce illegal except for infidelity?
@@johnburn8031umm, they are. Plenty of conservatives are really against no fault divorce. They want to control women and exclude gay people from public life, and these goals don't have to conflict with each other.
Make people with an imaginary friend having a voice in politics illegal.
My unicorn friend, Capt. Benjamin Pencilsniffer has some great ideas about marginal tax rates though.
One time when Bill Maher brought up Michele Bachmann on his show (this was maybe ten-ish years ago) and talked about how she had tweeted or said in an interview something that basically amounted to her being happy that things were going to sh*t in the country (in her mind), because that was clearly just a sign of the end times and The Rapture being just around the corner and all that nonsense... He said that we should be able to keep people like this away from decision-making. "You don't get to vote on next year's budget, because it doesn't concern you!"
While believing in a higher power is not technically insane, obeying imaginary voices is symptomatic of schizophrenia, though the line itself is drawn at the point you become a danger to yourself or others.
Romans 11:34-36
"Who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been able to give him advice?"
You have to call out craziness; works best in front of their kids.
As a gay man, this is what scares me and my husband. It's even scarier because my husband was born in Japan (Japanese mother, American father), so his citizenship is also possibly on the chopping block.
He could be deported to Japan as a stateless person and we couldn't fall back on our marriage to give him a legal path to stay.
Ya know, not to mention our healthcare, home, etc....
I'm sorry about that you both are amazing tho I love both you guys y'all got this
I sincerely hope that this does not happen.
Best wishes from the UK.
Uhhh… homosexuality itself was literally a crime in Texas 21 years ago… not exactly ancient history. So don’t act like this is some kind of new and shocking idea. I’m not saying it SHOULD be that way, but people are acting like this would be going back to the 1300’s, when it would only be going back to 2003. In 2003, they made homosexuality legal, and Texas didn’t have legal gay marriage until 2015. And both of those only changed in Texas due to Supreme Court overhaul. Prohibition against sodomy is literally still on the books in Texas; it just can’t be enforced.
It scares me too. I’m in a very similar situation. I live in a red state. My husband was born in Mexico and he has serious health issues. He depends on the health insurance provided by my employer, which could easily be lost if our marriage was no longer recognized. Not to mention the risk to his immigrant status.
This guy wants attention how should we respond? Tax the Churches?
Yes please
70%, a good starting point.
I second the 'yes, please' 🙋♀️
@@pizaclatonddd3081 that’s step one. Two through ten are more problematic.
Amen
They’ve been arguing for states rights for years but now that they have federal power, watch and see them go after states which have made abortion and marriage rights a part of their constitutions.
States rights for me but not for thee
Because, it was always about power not principles.
Red states seem to get more States rights than blues do
They only scream about "states rights" when its a democrat in office.
This is who Conservative Christian Evangelical Republicans are 🤷
I've been shortening it to Christofascists. For brevity.
@@WilliamBrowning😆😆😆
@@WilliamBrowning Theocracy advocates
Hypocrites?
Yeah, they're closet gays
The State should have no place interfering in people's private relationships
Agreed. That said, the argument that conservatives are going to make is that they won't prevent you from living with anyone you want but they also don't have to let you have the social/legal advantages of marriage. Which is absolutely BS but what can you do?
“The Government has no place in the bedrooms of the people.” Pierre Elliot Trudeau (current PM’s father).
@@davidstorrsprotest and get married anyway. Its a ritual nobody can stop you from performing
Also shame on the voters in his district who elected him in the first place 👎
Why is it that they argue the legality of marriage through faith traditions? I do not understand it. It’s a societally recognized contract between consenting parties for powers and responsibilities regarding shared assets and autonomy.
Last I checked, there’s no requirement for a deity to consent on these forms. How would they even sign?
Asking the gop to think logically is a tall ask
@@Urzalyr exactly. You can in fact have a “holy matrimony” where you get “married” in your religion, but it’s not a valid legal contract, nor is it recognized by the state but you are free to do that. If you want the benefits provided by legal marriage, you must purchase a marriage license and file the document with your state.
@ common law marriage also presents a problematic resolution when faith is involved. Involved parties would have to live together out of wedlock for a prescribed duration to qualify.
@@trishayamada807 , Don't be surprised if you see some of these nut jobs try to eliminate marriage by a Justice of the Peace in their states.
And... the US constitution is secular. Christian Nationalists lack the critical thinking skills to consider these things.
The original Constitution of the United States that was ratified in 1789 had only ONE REFERENCE TO RELIGION: [Article 6] No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any Office or Public Trust under the United States.
The de facto motto of the United States, adopted as part of the Great Seal of the U.S. by an Act of Congress in 1782, was E. Pluribus Unum (Out of Many, One). Congress changed it 174 years later (1956) to "In God We Trust".
The ORIGINAL 'Pledge of Allegiance' was written in 1892 by Baptist Minister Francis Bellamy who DID NOT INCLUDE the words "Under God". Those were added by Congress 62 year later (1954).
The U.S. didn't issue Paper Currency until 1861, & 'In God We Trust' didn't appear on it for 96 years (1957).
“As the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion" ~ Treaty of Tripoli; initiated under President George Washington, 1796, signed into law by President John Adams, 1797, ratified unanimously by the Senate, 1797, published in full in all 13 states, with no record of complaint or dissent.
"I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another."
--Thomas Jefferson, letter to Elbridge Gerry, January 26, 1799
“Christianity neither is, nor ever was part of the common law.” Thomas Jefferson
“Religion and government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together.” James Madison
“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” John Adams
"In every country, in every age, the priest has always been hostile to liberty...He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection of his own."
Thomas Jefferson
Founding Father Thomas Paine on Christianity. “The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race, have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion…”
"A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be great or a democracy," Teddy Roosevelt
"The purpose of Separation of Church and State is to keep forever from these shores, the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe for centuries." - James Madison
AMERICA WAS NOT FOUNDED ON "CHRISTIAN VALUES", IT WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A CHRISTIAN NATION, IT NEVER WILL BE A CHRISTIAN NATION. AMERICA IS A SECULAR COUNTRY. YOUR "FREEDUM OF RELIGION' ENDS WHERE MY CONSTITUTIONAL & BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS, LIBERTIES & PRIVLEGES BEGIN. DON'T LIKE IT, D!3 MAD ABOUT IT.
If interracial marriage is deemed unlawful, what happens to the children of those marriages? Are they existing illegally?
Also, if the marriage is childless, or people who are too old to bear children get married, will it be considered a valid marriage in the eyes of religious zealots?
Same for if the children of immigrants who naturalized. Ex: my husband was born in Japan to a Japanese mother (US father). His mother naturalized when he was 17. Does that mean he loses his citizenship? (Since his citizenship comes from statute and not the constitution, it's a real risk...)
@@goodun2974Not to mention the married couples who opt to remain childfree-will their marriages be forcibly dissolved because they’re deliberately “violating the purpose of marriage,” as in “refusing” to procreate?
And what about couples who got married in a non-Christian religious ceremony or a completely secular ceremony involving a justice of the peace? Will their marriages be deemed “invalid” because they didn’t get married in a Christian ceremony or church?
They’ll take the kids. They have islands to fill
I'm so terrified what this country is going to look like in four years.
What about how it looks right now? They already pushed us off the cliff. We're just watching the ground rush up to us. At least, it ends with an abrupt stop at the bottom.
Won't take that long.
similar to 4 years ago, except with total bitcoin
you will have the mark of the donkey to buy caterpillar dinners
Think about 20 years. I'll be in y 60s and the country will still be suffering the effects of disaffected people.
Why don't they get that their religion is not for everybody? Smh. Kudos to you, Hemmet! I can't watch the News anymore. Anyway, thanks for sharing.
Jesus Christ NEVER said a single word about or against homosexuality, regardless of the fact that Jesus IS NOT & NEVER WAS real. This is just Josh’s excuse/reason for being an a$$hole. I also think he may be closeted & repressed being that I live close to Oxford & I know the kind of RepubliKKKan religaholics who live there.
well from their point of view we are god's subjects. what they don't get is that god is a dictator and we should really be organising a rebellion, if he weren't imaginary. what beats me is we LET these dimbos order us about when they have no god to show for it - we are essentially obeying their imaginary friend - that is the really dumb part.
Well, see because Christianity is for everyone. Everyone that doesn't wanna burn. Or so I'm told. That's the deal. Also, cuz everyone knows that God exists. Atheists pretend not to know just cause they love sinning so much. Or so I'm told. And if God exists it certainly must be their God. "The one true God!!!" they say when I ask them which God certainly must exist. And the ppl who tell me that seem pretty certain. Absolutely no doubt about it. So, i figure that with so much certainty they must be pretty smart and know what they're talking about. So that's the answer to your question. So I'm told.
Well, you see Christianity is for everyone. Everyone that doesn't wanna burn, that is. Or so I'm told by some very confident persons. Also, everyone already knows that God exists anyhow. Atheists just pretend to not know because they love sinning so much. So I'm told. And it must be the "One true Lord of all" In case you were wondering WHICH God is the one that exists with absolute certainty. I've been told this by many ppl. They seem super confident so i assume they're pretty smort and know exactly what they're talking about.
Side Note: liberal content creator Jesse Dollemore said something off hand yesterday that fits here, and I think could be quote of the year. This is not word for word, but he basically said: "Our political views should not define our morals, our morals should define our political views." This guy made me think of that.
...if you have to suggest making something illegal and say "again", that would imply there is controversy. The dude is an absolute troll.
Nah …. just in denial of his gay desires.
Being related is not a deal breaker for the religious right... and that's all you need to know.
Being related to what? If you's talkin' 'bout what I think you're talking about all i can say is.... Only a few times in my life have i ventured beyond the confines of trurbridge Alabama. It's a slice of gods country. There's some sick, hurtin' people in need of Jesus out there in the wider world. Folks ain't godly like in Trurbridge. Sickness of the heart is everywhere. I heard of folk out there having sexual relations with people they ain't even related to. At all!! Not sisters, not cousins, nothing. That shit is unbiblical, unnatural, and one hundred percent disgustinj. I rebook it. Praze Jezus
I cannot understand why this is so important to those it does not affect.
Republican Christian$ are bigots
Have been for ever
Josh what's it to ya? Work on your own personal perfection and leave the rest of us the F alone.
He’s freaked & in denial of his gay longings. So obvious- he’s punishing his gay side, hoping it’ll go away.
1:00 They're trying to run that battle again, as you put it, because the same thing was said about abortion up until a few years back...
On that trip... he ... um... made some "NEW" FRIENDS. SHAME IS TOXIC.
I always wonder when somebody makes an issue over a small group of people what their overall intentions are!
As Jewish people are 2% to 3% of the USA population, I am so angered (& frightened) by antisemites’ false, exaggerated, dangerous beliefs.
2018, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA.
Sounds like a real PoS.
It would be interesting to have the current Supreme Court discuss the issue of internet racial marriages as Clarence Thomas is in such a marriage.
But *his* interracial marriage is okay. It's all the *other* ones that are bad.
Regression at its finest.. smh
I thought these people believed marriage was between 2 people and god anyways, why would they care what “man’s law” says about it?
He should be treated like a health care CEO
He’s from an ultra conservative district, so his safe seat.
Is it possible this man is actually gay himself, and has been cowed by his religious friends into denying and hiding it?
Kick him out of the club
Close, very close. Toss some water on his own gay fire.
Why is anyone’s marriage his business?
Marriage in itself is business... maybe he's upset at not getting a cut of that wedding money?
You are absolutely right about the electorate.
I for one find it controversial and extreme!
Marriage is no concern of the government except to maintain the records.
He needs to mind his own business.
Me think the dude is gay
Is it actually feasible to ban gay marriage nationwide? Article IV, Section 1 says "Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State", which means that if (e.g.) California allows gay marriage then all other states must respect that marriage. I suppose states could ban new gay marriages being formed within their borders, but that would simply lead to 'marriage tourism' and move money from the paleoconservative states to the decent ones.
Wasn't salvation suppose to be individual and personal? This people get so involve in others people lives they themselves are missing in living their own.
What happens to all the legally married gay couples. Do their marriages become null and void.
Yes, and if they adopted children, they are likely wanting to remove those children and place them with Christian families
Is that what you want to happen, or just a genuine question?
@ I brought it up because Josh didn’t think it through. The conclusion means you could revoke citizenship too.
@@douglashogg4848 Republicvnts want to do that too.
@@douglashogg4848 gotcha. Agreed. But yeah, I’m just worried for my marriage with people like him out there hating on us. My husband and I are boring people who barely go out or talk to people as it is lol. I don’t get why people want our marriage dissolved, or why others think we should be executed.
Closet case?
100%
How many of these outraged christian men have been outed on gay dating apps. This one is queueing up
I wish I was the turkey on that thanksgiving table, because that has to be one hell of a conversation.
I don't understand how one can claim religious discrimination in cases where they weren't allowed to discriminate (14th Amendment) or how one can reasonably argue that the "one man plus one woman" definition of marriage isn't inherently a religious belief which therefore can't be established/endorsed by the government (1st Amendment), in good conscience. If gay people getting married is against your religion, then don't get married to someone of the same gender. If SCOTUS decides that Christians have the right to discriminate on one thing, I think it'll open the door to all religions having that option and create a slippery slope. Anti-descrimination laws must trump Religious Exemptions.
He is just grandstanding for his supporters. They see him as principled and courageous.
I love watching you and how you say " and then a bunch of jesus shit" !!
It's all part of his MAGA campaign (Make a Gay Angry).
I called this yesterday
I had a lesbian driver today and she was the nicest person and driver..she was sweet and kind. This hatred against LGBT+ needs to stop.
He is supposed to be representing all of the people.
The post is so vague and random.
The amount of energy they use to defy everything is absolutely insane
But then who will marry him?
For what reason? Because he doesn't approve? What harm has it caused?
Now, I’m not religious or anything but aren’t right wingers doing something that is very very evil? Like say, using gods name in vain, which is not allowed? Kind of curious what happens when they pass away and meet whatever angel better yet demon that appears at the pearly gates. I mean, if it is actually real anyway.
Oh they’re absolutely evil people. Bending their religion and the word of their god to fit their agenda and spark outrage. They are the very reason I left religion.
When MAGA put their hats in, I realized religion wasn’t inherently evil but rather a faction of that group are. They have completely abandoned their messiah.
Jesus, if real, was dope. These people suck and hate him apparently.
Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
MGMIA is a pretty bad acronym, I prefer RRFPA (remove religion from politics again)
does he not know hot to not have a gay marriage?
Mad at his boy friend?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love the voter blaming. Blame the people without the power, not the ones who promise to protect it and failed to do so.
In a democracy, people are elected to promote the health and welfare of the people. Not push their private agendas
Hot cocoa take: Removing rights that have already been granted for a decade *is extreme*.
Allies UNITE to protect EVERYONE’S RIGHTS
❤💙💜💛🖤
Biggest beard I’ve ever seen. Where was he during the RNC in Wisconsin?
Calling up GRINDR?
My state kept our democratic governor but voted for a republican president as a whole 🤨 like what's up with that, yeah sure ms. harris is a member of the same party as our governor, and we evidently LIKE our governor because we voted to keep her around but i'm instead going to vote for the republican party. ok.
I don't get swing voters* (I do now. but for awful reasons on their part), who goes from _"Yeah, I think it's way past time our healthcare system catches up with the former third world"_ one year straight into _"Seig FAIL! Mein Groeppenpigger!"_ the next?
*CNN showed by interviewing the swingers that they're a bunch of conceited narcissists who make it all about them and they're the idiots voting based on who they'd rather meet in a bar for drinks.
Well who would have guessed? 😑🙄🤨
Maybe if they hadnt made marriage a legal contract with tax, property and other benefits they could talk sbout this. BUT. They did, so to do that would surely be against anti discrimination laws
He thinks his god has given him the ok to tell the rest of us what to do. Nope. Not happening.
Amos 5:21-24 21
“I hate, I despise your religious festivals;
your assemblies are a stench to me.
22 Even though you bring me burnt offerings and grain offerings,
I will not accept them.
Though you bring choice fellowship offerings,
I will have no regard for them.
23 Away with the noise of your songs!
I will not listen to the music of your harps.
24 But let justice roll on like a river,
righteousness like a never-failing stream!
Hosea 2:11 I will stop all their celebrations: their yearly festivals, their New Moons, their Sabbath days-all their appointed festivals.
So can we make pork chops illegal? I mean I assume we can legislate other religions too.
He’s given to over reaction.
For the algorithm ❤
Damn why can’t ppl just leave us alone, we all can co-exists in this planet, we’ve always been able to smfh
watch your back,josh
Quoting someone who never got married is pretty dumb.
Jesus hung out with 12 men, and I bet they were always commando.
Josh Shriver looks like he's a "friend of Dorothy '
Violence? Where did he say that?
Guess we learned something new about him
That's where you come from ,where you follow something that brings so much war!
Schriver obviously has issues.
Who is this guy trying to tell people who they can love. I can tell you one thing you are not a Christian when you try to destroy love and also judge. He better mind his own business before he FAFO. Cause by the looks of things people are no longer taking crap from anyone anymore.
re: the point about not wasting time arguing with certain people, the ones who are gung-ho in their beliefs about something....
I often hear a reasoning from people who DO engage/debate those kinds of people, that they don't even hope to convince that other, Polar Opposite guy otherwise. They engage in debates on public platforms, like social media, in the hopes that some viewer or reader who isn't part of the debate itself, might read or listen and start to come around.
Welcome, to all the fact curious folks
Why are we making ... Insert controversial comments
Because it gets the guy media coverage.
Even I am commenting of the nobody from nowhere USA
1 John 2:15-17 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Peter grew bold and asked, “Lord, tell us concerning the Father. Who is he? And why did he send you?”
2 And Jesus answered, “Simon, you are blessed, for you do not suppose you know that which must be a mystery to all flesh.
3 For my Father is not the maker of the world of matter which you see around you, a world that is filled with death and despair,
4 but which, seeing with the fever of the flesh and its desire, mortals deem full of every delight and comfort and so waste their lives in pursuit of illusions.
5 No, all these things only enslave mankind to the material creator.
6 My Father is exalted high above this one, whence he is called the Most High God.
7 For no one speaks of anything as ‘the highest,’ unless there be others below it.
Chapter 3
1 “And you mortals are partly his creations, in that he has fashioned the body from unclean foulness.
2 But your souls he has stolen from the Light-World of my Father.
3 With them he has imparted to your flesh bodies an appearance of life, which is but a shadow of the life you knew in the Pleroma of the Most High.
4 Here you abide in ignorance, never knowing either your origin or your destiny.
5 And for lack of that knowledge you perish and are reborn into new bodies time and again, so long as the way out be hidden from you.
6 And that is why the Father sent me into the world, in the likeness of your flesh, that I might make known these truths to you.”
The Gospel of Mary Magdalene
What is he 12?
if orange man is bad, he never learned carpentry
I like this guy, but why tf is his face cam constantly freezing? Shits really distracting.
I don't need a marriage to be happy with the people I they love.
@@jamesverner9132 it’s just about happiness. Thats the issue. When you are married you get certain protections and tax incentives. Why is that just for straight people who get married?
Then don’t give married people benefits. If one group of people can’t have them then no one should. Double standard.
You don't need a marriage to be happy but you surely need one to have access to basic rights like being covered by insurance and being able to visit your spouse in a hospital
Civil marriages come with a ton of rights and obligations, that many others besides yourself appreciate. One example is the right to visit and make medical decisions for spouses that might be unable to do so for themselves.
52. Then she learns about her illumination as she removes this material world from herself.
53. Meanwhile, her true form clothes her from within, her matrimonial clothing is placed upon her with the beauty of the spirit, rather than the pride of the flesh.
54. Then she learns about the depth of her existence and becomes part of her fold, as her shepherd stands in the doorway.
55. In return for the shame and scorn she received in the material world, she receives ten thousand times the mercy and joy.
56. She left the body to those who gave it to her, and they were ashamed.
57. Meanwhile, the merchants of the body sat down and cried, for they could not render business with that body. Nor could they find any stock outside of it.
58. They had worked hard to shape the body of this soul, intending to eliminate the unseen soul.
59. As a result, they were ashamed of their efforts. They suffered, losing the one for whom they had worked.
60. They did not realize that she has an invisible spiritual body. They thought, ‘We are her shepherd who provides for her.’
61. Yet they didn’t realize she knew another path - one that is hidden from them. This is what the true shepherd had taught her through knowledge.
62. But these ignorant ones do not seek God. They also don’t seek their home - their place of refuge.
63. Instead, they live like animals. Their wickedness exceeds the pagans.
64. First of all, they don’t seek God. Their hard hearts drag them down into their ruthlessness.
65. Indeed, if they discover a person seeking salvation, their hard heart begins to work on that person.
66. And if the person doesn’t stop their search, they ruthlessly murder him and think they have done the right thing.
67. Certainly they are followers of the adversary. Because even pagans will be charitable.
68. And ultimately they know God exists in the spiritual realm - ruling over the idols they worship. They just haven’t heard the teachings so they could seek His path.
69. Therefore, the irrational person hears the call but ignores the place they are being called to.
70. That person does not ask when hearing the teaching: ‘Where is the temple within which I should worship and practice my faith?
71. Due to his irrationality, this person is actually worse than a pagan. Because the pagans understand the path to their stone temple - which will be destroyed.
72. They worship the idol their hearts are set on because they have faith.
73. But the irrational person, to whom the teachings have taught, ‘Seek and investigate the paths you should take, because there is nothing better than this.’
74. In the end, what makes the heart hard impacts the spirit, together with the power of ignorance and the wickedness of wrong-doing.
75. These do not allow the spirit to rise up, preventing the person from working to understand what there is to learn about trusting in Him.
76. Yet the rational soul who has worked hard in her search came to know God.
77. She worked on learning and endured the body’s suffering, her feet worn from following after the teachers as she learned about the Mysterious One.
Lost scriptures
The Authoritative Teaching
why are all your headlines so discriminative ?
What's your point?
@ you are bigots complaining about bigots, for starters
@ ignorance doesnt solve problems, read a book, go to a job site...learn
@ why be a discriminating racist ?
Yeah, we wouldn't want to hurt the feelings of Christian nationalists lol
I wish people were talking more about the difference between having no laws addressing an action, having laws protecting an action, and making laws restricting an action. This is the pivotal difference between A LOT of what they're trying to do. There is a difference between having no law sanctifying a marriage between same s e x couples prior to determining the marriage laws protected same s e x marriage, and writing legislation specifically decrying that same s e x marriage is punishable by law (making it illegal).
I’m wondering what Josh’s Boyfriend thinks of this 🤔