Love the visuals. Makes it very obvious where the S's are and what it's doing to them. I assume it's probably meant for solo tracks and not de-essing mixes since it's missing the confusing controls for vocal isolation, which is fine, it makes everything simpler that way.
Ya man! I've been using it for weeks now and it's FANTASTIC! SOOOOOO smooth and natural sounding! It's very easy to use and dial in. The controls make sense. THIS is how you make plugins!
Very interesting point of view on the influence of converters on the quality of recordings! I think it has to do with the capture/reproduction of the very top of the spectrum. In real life situations, I found that sibilance is also caused by lack of "air" and that your ear somewhat "hangs on" to the highest thing it hears. So if there is no air, it focuses on one or two octave below.
ad/da is so overlooked with a lot of the affordable interfaces out there. marketing jargon will be like, "some dude's last name preamps" and people tend to stop thinking right there.
1:46 now I need to know which brands/models because I’m about to get “pro-level” stuff in my home studio. Is UA APPOLLO higher end rack mounted models a “problematic” brand/model?
If youre going for an interface and dont need all the dsp I highly recommend rme. As for if they’re affected, they just upgraded the conversion on some of the units but its still behind rme id say
Okay so I just tried it against antares vocal de-esser and from my testing: Sometimes it seems to do a better job (vocals sounded just a tiny bit smoother) BUT it sounds like I also takes out some brightness in the vocals wich isn't the case with antares...so that's probably why (I only tried with my headphones but it should be the same with speakers, maybe even more obvious). Will do more testing but for now it's what I heard.
All splits is doing us turning down the s sound, while dressers usually turn down some of the frequencies in the s. Try only doing a couple of db quieter with SplitS. It means you can add more overall brightness and air without having s rip your head off
@@samphelps856 I know what it's doing but that's what I hear: it sounds like its adding a very thin curtain in front of the vocal, even with 2 db of reduction I can hear it
@@samphelps856 Ok I've done a more proper test, I've put Split S on the lead vocal track, duplicated it, put Vocal de-esser on it and reverted its polarity. Of course there is a difference on how they treat sibilance so it's audible but it's also audible on some others parts of the words, like vowels (a, o, etc). I am reassured, my ears didn't trick me. Edit: It might be adjustable with the crossfade and window settings but I'm not sure if it would completely change the result
Would love to have something like this for breaths? Smart DeEss would be extra incredible it if had that feature. I don't like having to run everything through RX to have to balance my breaths first, but for me with the ability to set all breaths to a certain gain reading, it's really useful and speeds up the process.
There's no one good company at all, sonible have smart gate and there's speech setting that loves to nuke the breaths - but you have to play around otherwise it cuts like Fs and H sounds at the start of words and some light t d k sounds etc
@@samphelps856 Yeah that's the thing though I don't usually wanna lose all the breaths, I just wanna turn them down (and not have to do it completely manually). RX breath control is the best I've found so far but it's just too CPU hungry to run live, so I end up having to adjust and print it.
As a user, it's how fast/slow the ess stops and starts it's split. Default setting is pretty abrupt (in solo mode, actually sounds fine out of solo) think of it like short crossfades from tone to sibilance.
The Spectral Compressor by Robbert van der is by far the most effective plugin for de-essing, and it has numerous other use cases. Best of all, it's free!
@@hightyde Just got it with the black friday sales so I can't say how good it is yet but from what I've tried it's really good yeah, and it seems very fast to get great results, the only thing it lacks is the control of plosives like P and B
@@hightyde Really? I used it years ago ('06-ish) and it wasn't great, I've ignored it since. I may need to look at it again. My current Deessers are Pro-DS, Smart Deesser, and Weiss.
Love the visuals. Makes it very obvious where the S's are and what it's doing to them. I assume it's probably meant for solo tracks and not de-essing mixes since it's missing the confusing controls for vocal isolation, which is fine, it makes everything simpler that way.
Believe it or not, some mastering engineers reported successfully using it on full mixes that had WAY loud sibilance
There is no other desser from now on!
Dope plugin.
I used it on bass string noises today and it worked…check presets
Oh Yeah!🙌
I've been using it for weeks and am absolutely LOVING it. Mostly combine it with the senile de-esser.
Ya man! I've been using it for weeks now and it's FANTASTIC! SOOOOOO smooth and natural sounding! It's very easy to use and dial in. The controls make sense. THIS is how you make plugins!
I bought it, with your code thanks! Really excited about this plugin actually! Really easy and quick to filter nasty S's and noise
That is exactly the de'essor I've been looking for, bought it too with your link👍
Melodyne does that too since a bunch of years now, allowing you to gain separately tonal/noises (vowels/consonants) parts of vocals.
True, much more time consuming tho, almost the same as doing it with gain clip
Indeed! But splitS offers more detection capabilities and works in real time! No transfer needed!
also think that more de-essing is needed cause clients want the vocal so frigging bright, at least in pop, rnb and hip hop
Good point.
Yep, everything is bright now
Very interesting point of view on the influence of converters on the quality of recordings! I think it has to do with the capture/reproduction of the very top of the spectrum. In real life situations, I found that sibilance is also caused by lack of "air" and that your ear somewhat "hangs on" to the highest thing it hears. So if there is no air, it focuses on one or two octave below.
1:09 what is the "correct pop filter"?
New *final thought* category to add moving forward: “Is this a recommend, or is this an I will use in my own sessions?”
yes
ad/da is so overlooked with a lot of the affordable interfaces out there. marketing jargon will be like, "some dude's last name preamps" and people tend to stop thinking right there.
Awesome breakdown - so much nuance with audio engineering. Manually editing often takes the cake.
I need this.
1:46 now I need to know which brands/models because I’m about to get “pro-level” stuff in my home studio. Is UA APPOLLO higher end rack mounted models a “problematic” brand/model?
If youre going for an interface and dont need all the dsp I highly recommend rme. As for if they’re affected, they just upgraded the conversion on some of the units but its still behind rme id say
Okay so I just tried it against antares vocal de-esser and from my testing: Sometimes it seems to do a better job (vocals sounded just a tiny bit smoother) BUT it sounds like I also takes out some brightness in the vocals wich isn't the case with antares...so that's probably why (I only tried with my headphones but it should be the same with speakers, maybe even more obvious).
Will do more testing but for now it's what I heard.
All splits is doing us turning down the s sound, while dressers usually turn down some of the frequencies in the s. Try only doing a couple of db quieter with SplitS. It means you can add more overall brightness and air without having s rip your head off
@@samphelps856 I know what it's doing but that's what I hear: it sounds like its adding a very thin curtain in front of the vocal, even with 2 db of reduction I can hear it
@@samphelps856 Ok I've done a more proper test, I've put Split S on the lead vocal track, duplicated it, put Vocal de-esser on it and reverted its polarity. Of course there is a difference on how they treat sibilance so it's audible but it's also audible on some others parts of the words, like vowels (a, o, etc). I am reassured, my ears didn't trick me.
Edit: It might be adjustable with the crossfade and window settings but I'm not sure if it would completely change the result
Is there a link to the "Julia" you mentioned?
Made in Switzerland, this tool is like the Swiss Army knife for removing those pesky 'S' sounds-what a clever name
4:42 try this: "summ summ summ, Bienchen Summ herum." all the esses in there have a tone (or you're doing it wrong because you don't know German).
Would love to have something like this for breaths? Smart DeEss would be extra incredible it if had that feature. I don't like having to run everything through RX to have to balance my breaths first, but for me with the ability to set all breaths to a certain gain reading, it's really useful and speeds up the process.
There's no one good company at all, sonible have smart gate and there's speech setting that loves to nuke the breaths - but you have to play around otherwise it cuts like Fs and H sounds at the start of words and some light t d k sounds etc
@@samphelps856 Yeah that's the thing though I don't usually wanna lose all the breaths, I just wanna turn them down (and not have to do it completely manually). RX breath control is the best I've found so far but it's just too CPU hungry to run live, so I end up having to adjust and print it.
i think the crossfade refers to something else given that it has "ms" as a unit on it.
As a user, it's how fast/slow the ess stops and starts it's split. Default setting is pretty abrupt (in solo mode, actually sounds fine out of solo) think of it like short crossfades from tone to sibilance.
@samphelps856 that's what i suspected but i don't own the plugin so i wouldn't know.
SPL 500 series de essser. Boom. Done. No need for fancy stuff past that.
The Spectral Compressor by Robbert van der is by far the most effective plugin for de-essing, and it has numerous other use cases. Best of all, it's free!
Conversion got a lot better over the last 20 years.
Does RME have good converters?
Yes
@@Whiteseastudio does UAD have good converters?
please make tutorial vengeance sound effect plugins
put a pencil with a rubber band before your condensor-mic this will reduce sibilance. cheap no-cost hack
Nice
Have you tried antares vocal de-esser ?
Yup. Antares is my go to de esser. Now that’s a smooth plugin!
@@hightyde Just got it with the black friday sales so I can't say how good it is yet but from what I've tried it's really good yeah, and it seems very fast to get great results, the only thing it lacks is the control of plosives like P and B
@@hightyde Really? I used it years ago ('06-ish) and it wasn't great, I've ignored it since. I may need to look at it again. My current Deessers are Pro-DS, Smart Deesser, and Weiss.
@@privateer2584 It didn't exist years ago, it came out earlier this year. Soothe2 is also great for this task btw
@@privateer2584 they are talking about the new plugin with AI capabilities, it's pretty good
day 2: asking what that chair is?
So basically what Facebook and every forums suggests? Converters? Got it
This is kinda like melodyne not like desser/high band compresor in melodyne u can lover the volume of s bcs its split form tonal part
Indeed! But splitS offers more detection capabilities and works in real time! No transfer needed!
Apula the swizzee pluggy sistah of Ricolah.
Some kind of Melodyne in realtime. Seems great if you don't (want to) use Melodyne.
Indeed, but it offers more refined detection parameters!
W.A. Production - Vocal Shaper... 'S-Volume'.
Thanks me later!
Indeed! But splitS offers more detection capabilities!
@ please explain! Would love to know as I’m curious! 😁
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lots of cheap mics out there....