I met Tony McCarroll a good few years ago. I didn't know who he was, he just gave me a lift as he was doing some part time driving for a utilities company I was doing some work for at the time. We got chatting as you do, and he told me he was first and foremost a musician and played the drums. I asked if he was in a band, he replied " not at the moment no". He said he fell out with one of the members of his previous band and was forced to leave. I ask a few more questions throughout the journey but it wasn't until we got to my drop of point when I asked " Oh by the way what was the name of the band you were in?" "Oasis" He came across as i very gentle sweet type of bloke. He obviously isn't an egotist like Noel Gallagher who comes across very badly in this video.
@@ac9110 LOL Do you hear yourself? McCarroll was decent but in no way should you compare him to White.. He is the one that set a standard and made the songs that much greater
Funny thing, I’m trucker down where I’m from in Texas and picked up some old hippie the other day. He said he was a musician as well, played guitar and sang. Said he once had a career as country singer. Turns out it was Andy Kaufman.
Should make a film on Tony, showing how it's the not how people say it is. I saw the doco Supersonic, and it looks to me like the rest of the band bullied Tony, even that prick of a studio manager in Wales wherever they were. Tony will have the last laugh I am sure
@@jonathankerr-smith8989 He should've had the last laugh but he gave away his performance royalties in that lawsuit. He was a mediocre drummer in an extraordinary band, it was only fair that he got sacked.
Tony is an average drummer and not as good as Alan White. However Tony's drumming style was perfect for Definitely Maybe, which is actually Oasis' best album in my opinion.
@@Drumm3rB0y yeah i'd broadly agree. He wouldn't have done Morning Glory as much justice as Alan White but yeah, for the most part Tony was good enough.
He isn’t. Ik it’s sad and he seems like a nice guy but he isn’t a good drummer. It’s sad that he had to go and did he deserve it? No, he didn’t but it had to be done
@@Lorenzo-cp7qs okay, that doesn’t make him good and it’s up to debate weather it’s their greatest album. Also childish insults just make your argument look even more redundant.
Supersonic and Live Forever are the most iconic drum sounds Oasis have ever had. Simple but fitted the tracks so well. Well done Tony. Yes the mix and production really makes the drums shine out in them songs but the back bone is Tony
Songs that never sounded the same again. Be nice if noel had the guts to include Tony in any reunion tour they might have. He won't though. Doubt even if Alan will get the call tbh
Without Tony we wouldn’t have the early punk and heavy sounding Oasis we all love It’s good to be free white room is one of the best performances the band ever gave
I remember Tony saying in an interview that he wasn't even the worst musician in oasis. They were all quite average but well drilled and together made something special. Guiggs barely played on def maybe because his recordings weren't deemed good enough but yeah yeah Tony is hopeless 😂
@@t3hpoopsmithTony wanted writing credits for Supersonic and a couple of other songs arguing that because Noel wrote them while he played a beat then he helped write them. Which is absolutely hilarious. You're right that it was personal, but Tony is the one that made it personal.
@@AkiraFelix-k2l I don't know any of them personally. I don't think any of us really have a full picture besides what each side says, which is obviously going to be biased. I do think the drum intro to supersonic is very iconic. Not sure if it should get a writing credit.
I don’t think Tony McCarroll would of decked Noel! And what is with you Tony fans ya so fucking weird?! Noel has made that curly haired turnip a rich man without Noel letting him drum on his songs which he should consider a fucking honour he would have nothing! Absolutely nothing! Not one member of the band is with him now which says it all! You people are simple people and don’t understand people like Noel that has depth and are loners at heart coz of what’s Ed upbringing they have had of just coz there on a crusade to show the world after being beaten around as a kid that he is somebody and he’s not gonna let anyone get in the way of his ambition. Lennon Cobain McCartney were the same. Geniuses like Noel are like that and you should be grateful for it as it’s his music you listen to you selfish plonker stain. This is why I love Noel ! He don’t suffer fools
@@dondamon4669 I’m sure he did have a tough childhood - as he’s said himself, so have many others. He a great songwriter (also helped on his way by Tony and the others getting him to join the band). Maybe in your opinion those things give a free pass to be a nasty bastard. Maybe in other people’s opinions they don’t. Opinions are like arseholes pal, we’ve all got one.
You should hear Tony speak about ‘bring it in down’ apparently Noel made him do the drum takes for that track for ages then went with the first take they did. Hes actually a very neat dude, I wish i really knew why Noel had it in for him for so long
Have to remember he went from dole to rock and roll royalty in the space of a year. If I had a microphone stuck in my face every other day, especially in my 20s I think I'd probabaly have come across as an arsehole occasionally too :/
He sign them because he heard Live Forever. Not really because of the band, but because of a song. He didn't even knew how talented Noel was as a songwriter. He just went with "that song might make me money".
@@akirafelix3865 it's well known that McGee signed them on the spot after seeing them perform at King Tut's in Scotland. They didn't play Liver Forever at that gig. That's the story that's been told over and over again. Anything else is porky pies
Calling Oasis "the biggest band in the world" is insane. They are barely a good band that scored a hit with Wonderwall... Don't look back in anger (Ironic) is a good try of a song
Guys, Noel is very obviously joking when he said drummers were smelly useless talentless loosers. I mean, he plays drums himself, and looks up to Ringo Starr as an idle for crying out loud.
I'm 40 year old grew up listening to all the early oasis tracks. I'm on a job at bolton hospital and tony is an air conditioning engineer and he's a top bloke. From an oasis fan. Tony is a good lad
Hey, he's had a childhood of being beaten by his own dad, you know! At least Noel doesn't get banned from airlines for life, put in prison cells, or kick and punch like Liam. Liam is a loose cannon, dude.
@@obd9660 I know right. Anytime I hear people say that I think...Noels never been arrested for physically assaulting people. There is no video footage of noel grabbing his girlfriend by the neck. Noels never been quoted saying he doesn't want anything to do with his daughters. I mean how exactly is Noel the "nasty" brother. Cause he says funny, admittedly sometimes insensitive things on occasion and only when prompted. I'd take someone making fun of me for comedic purposes vs someone actually meaning the insults they are throwing my way before swinging a guitar at my head, any day.
@@obd9660 I agree with alot of what you have said to be fair but alot of Liams dickhead behaviour came from years ago and i am referring to the Liam of recent. I always preferred Noel and like you, i thought Liam was a thug! In recent times both Liam and Noel have changed, one for the better and the other for the worst.
@@frfrbsb I am talking about both brothers in the present tense. Liam has been a nob but he seems a lot more mature these days, Noel on the other hand.
@@sentientexplorer how exactly has liam matured . Most of the things I mentioned have happened within the last 5 years. I'm sorry, the only thing that liam has learned is how to play the game better. Before if he physically hurt someone he would arrogantly say the other person deserved it and he was right to do what he did. Now he denies it and when shown video footage of the incident he remains silent and waits for people to forget . Noel on the other hand , is only kind of mean when he reacts to liam. Most other things people have an issue with him says are people over reacting or not understanding what he is a actually saying.
It was funny, Noel came into liams band and slowly but surely removed everyone from the band. And then painted the picture that Liam was the villain. It’s funny having a modern perspective on narcissism and such and looking back on all this
I cannot agree with you more. I mean, if you hear the drums on live forever, its just impossible to say that Tony was a bad drummer. Maybe not the best in the world but definitely very good still. If youve been in a band together for so long, became massive out of nothing, there must be some brotherhood connection between you and one another. But Noel just slams him, like a high school bully. He was 28 at the time he sacked him. If youre still a bully by that age youre just not a nice person, from the inside out. I always looked at Liam as the villain too, but lately I realize that Liam is just messing around a bit being a bit arrogant. He performs for the NHS, at 1 love manchester, wished Tony a speedy recovery after his heart attack a month ago and all that, and Noel? None of this all. Noel doesnt even speak to his brother Paul apparently. Paul seems like one of the nicest brothers you can have. It becomes clear to me that Noel cares for himself only basically.
Noel does not come across as a particularly nice guy, especially in the earlier days of Oasis, and his treatment of Tony was bad. From Tony's book, it does seem that Noel was almost trying to get him to quit with all the bullying behaviour. Perhaps Tony did well to last as long as he did, as Noel was always going to get rid of him. Just a shame he had to be so nasty, as others here have said, he could have done it in a much more tactful way, but he wasn't really known for tact. Noel does come across as nasty and ruthless, by that point though he held all the cards. And I do think there is a large element of it being due to Noel having no faith in Tony's abilities for the 2nd record. Listening to his drumming on Definitely Maybe, and watching him live, it is difficult to imagine him playing anything other than the Stomping 4/4 beat which he did so well on the first album, but which wasn't going to work for the more intricate songs on the 2nd album. The bass player was an even more rudimentary musician than Tony, but the drums are so important as the backbone. I guess Tony could have practised and worked on his drumming, but I don't think Noel would have backed him to do that. It's just a shame Noel had to be so callous and couldn't appreciate Tony's role in the band up to that point (he was in it before Noel).
Noels a propper ass and without that drummer they could never recapture that punk sound that was found on the debut album. It's funny how the band imploded on itself and all abecause of Noel and Liam. Noel was right sneaky, he made sure that he would have the power to sack any member of the band written into the contract and he wasn't the founder of the band. Rather, Noel was the last member to join to complete Oasis. I seems he always had an eye on going solo and that's how it all panned out.
@@QueenLiliTheRed How many songs did he copy too. They also had the same antichrist agenda as the Beatles. Song writing aided by demonic spirits as they were nothing but puppets for the devil. And they were bloody Irish not British.
Totally agree - Tony drumming gave the band an edgy indie cool vibe - after he was sacked the sound became too slick and polished - ruined the band in my opinion
@@rizvanxd8724 and how he couldn't play Half The World Away? Isn't that one of the easiest songs ever? Noel isn't suposed to be a good drummer, he's suposed to be a good songwriter. Tony couldn't even do what he was suposed to do. A proper drummer.
I wonder why he didn't think to get drumming lessons or they didn't tell him to get lessons. It's best to keep practicing and keep trying don't let people get you down.
I can't remember where I read it...so I don't know if its true or not. But it said that they did get him lessons, tony just refused to go because he thought it was 1) insulting and 2) not needed. Hmmm, I've read and watched too many Oasis things to pin point where that info came from so you can decided whether a reliable source or not. Sorry.
Yeah it would’ve probably helped, and he did have the foundation’s to be really good, but I think his fate was sealed by then. A bit of an Alpha male vibe going on in the band, and he was an easy target. Got to feel for him, but at least he got to play on their Debut.
It’s a good point, I just think he was in a place where Noel was the dictator, and he probably couldn’t do anything right in Noel’s eyes by that point. Noel Gallagher is a great songwriter, but definitely hasn’t been the nicest of guys over the years. Never really had a lot of good to say about anyone, except the Beatles, Paul Weller and himself.
There's a freedom, atmosphere, and in the most positive sense, looseness, in that first album that the drumming contributes in equal parts to the other elements. He may have a point on the next album, but for me Noel just took more of that space, and while there is nothing wrong with Alan White's drumming, it was the start of the playing members of Oasis resembling a backing band. Hard to see Bonehead and Guigsy's musicianship being any less than McCarroll's also.
I don't mind them sacking Tony actually if its due to musical reasons but the way they did it was very old-fashioned and kind of changed my view on Noel, He was no different to your average foreman at your worksite. Perhaps it's a cause of their low education level? No empathy skills whatsoever. And the lack of support he got from the other guys ('part from Bonehead who didn't really have a say in the band's hierarchy) is shocking. No wonder Tony sued them later. They could've been like millions time nicer to him and still replace him.
ChainNonSmoker I agree👍🏻. You want to fired your band mates for not being good enough ? That's fine, just send him a proper farewell. If liam wasn't his brother I think he might even get fired as well
Tony did get treat like shit but he was still part of something big. Noel and Tony got on well when they were young but when Oasis were starting to become big relations were strained. Noel slammed Tony's drumming ability and said he wasn't good enough for a number one record. How wrong was he?
ChainNonSmoker he was treated like garbage in the band, but if he couldn’t play songs I could when I was 13 I don’t think he should be in a successful band
Vladislav The Poker I don’t think it was that, it’s because his voice was irreplaceable and he had the looks etc. I’d be like taking MJ out of the Jackson 5.
Say what your will Lars got me drumming and countless others into drumming. The drumming on And Justice for all was great. Like Tony he got the job done.
Imagine him saying that that to Keith moon or ginger Baker...his guitar would've been shoved down his throught and his body thrown into the Manchester ship canal...
Even on his old age, Noel is very passive aggressive. The guy is a bully and probably never had anyone say no to him. Apple doesn’t fall to far from the tree….🌴 🍎
Met Noel and Liam both in 1997. Noel was a complete bellend, full of his own self importance and arrogant. Contrast that with Liam who was a down to earth fella who gave a fan time. This interview just sums up Noel. Hope Tony is doing well. Oasis fans of old appreciate your contribution to the band.
Never met them but the same year 1997 in Feltham when they were filming stand by me, Liam saw 2 of my mates who would have been 11 at the time from his car and gave them the 2 finger salute, presumably because they were both wearing Man United tops. I've always liked him for that lol.
So….. Tony sacked ….. Bonehead Quits …….Quigsy Quits …….Allen White sacked…….Liam left high and dry in France …..?………seem the problem was Noel all along ..
Alan left because he didn’t get on with Liam. Noel said he had to stand by his brother so asked Alan to leave. So it wasn’t always Noel that was the problem. I can imagine Liam in his younger years being a bit of a bully.
@@daniellefrancis1476 I think in the early days with the coke an all, they were both nightmares. Liam seems alright now though. Still not sure about Noel.
@@realsinisterminister If you weren't Liam Gallagher you were totally expendable. Bone looks genuinely spooked that Noel is being so vicious with a dude he's lived with, eaten with and partied with. Toured in busses with. A founding member. A bandmate. Noel comes off a little weird here with the hatred and it's clear Bonehead is nervous of him. Noel has no problem humiliating Tony here infront of the world, not giving a shit that Tony has a little girl at home who doesn't need to see her father ripped apart on TV years later. After the Whiskey-a-go-go incident, Noel was 100% in charge with an iron fist.
@@deadseagull-xf3lk Noel even said Tony would be back on the dole by the end of the year when he was still IN the band.......I like Tony's punk rock drumming that 1st album is brilliant
@@callumcoates-keddypsychesy5954 Also, need I remind you that Noel admires, worships, and looks up to the Beatles? Why would he slate Ringo Starr, someone who is part of a band he admires?
I love Oasis but they're not exactly bloody Pink Floyd or King Crimson. Do they really need a highly technical drummer. Tony sounds fine to me on the debut
I love Noel Gallagher and grew up with his music, still, Tony McCarrol contribution to Definitely Maybe is much more relavant than the invisible bass lines of a par time bass player like Guigsy and the useless melodies of Boneheads Barrè chords. I'm a huge Oasis fan, however, I also believe Oasis fans are not really able to really judge music talent (that's what I was before studying music for real). For the love of god, Oasis are not Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd or the who, they lived years out of the success of 2 albums and their b-sides. To me, Tony McCarrol was more distinctive than the boring beat of Alan White.
Noel comes across as a right plonker here, describing drums in a derogatory manner. It’s possible he’s only joking but a good drummer makes a band. McCaroll was one of the best things about the debut album.
I wish he'd say this to Billy Cobham haha. He'd snap him in half. There are some drummers that lack talent but overall it requires a lot of skill to play drums. Now strumming a few chords like that asswipe, how much talent does that require?
As someone who knows extremely little to nothing about drums can someone who does know about drums tell me why Tony wasn’t good enough and why Alan was allegedly so much better.
It has to do with the fact that Tony played pretty much the same beat on almost every song (kick, snare, kick-kick, snare) and didn't really do a lot of fills or intricate stuff like ghost notes, or even just used his toms more. Alan is just a more technically proficent drummer and his parts are really creative (Don't Look Back In Anger being the biggest example of this, another good example is his drumming in live versions of Champagne Supernova). Now don't get me wrong, I still very much like Tony's drumming and Alan's all the same, just for different reasons.
@@deadseagull-xf3lk yeah I agree.... but if you read my comment again, I'm talking about Noel saying Tony was too basic of a drummer which is hypocritical. In fact your comment also backs up what I'm saying... no one was wanting or needing Jimmy Chamberlain.
Do you see the difference in Blur and Oasis? When one of the members on Blur was having mental problems Damon put the band on a 2 year brake until the member was better. Could you imagine Noel doing anything even remotely nice like that if one of oasis got sick. That's what you call friendship, apparently oasis were meant to be friends who grew up with each other.
Tony and Steve Adler where the same. Yeah not as good as white and sorum but they had a griitenest to them. The songs played by the latter is good but missing that rawness to them. I'm not sure why bonehead laughing. He was a barre chord player exclusively. Still love the guy but c'mon ....
Got nothing to with Noel surounded by yes men then and blowing smoke up his arse and Tony stood up to him and he never forgot it and uses the bullshit couldnt drum excuse to get rid of him.
Tony was one of founders of oasis. Noel comes to me as arrogant and egocentric. At the very begging of oasis, it was liam who begged tonny and guigs to let noel get into the band. Seems like they were friends back then. i dont think tony like noels as much, or noels in an asshole. Things tony say about noel in his book, make it seems like noels not a very nice person
I got a feeling that behind bonehead's laugh he's actually saying "okay that's enough noel"
I think Bonehead spent alot of time being the referee. He's a top bloke.
Boy Racer how do you know that?
Really? I got the exact oppisite impression
Outcast bullshit
Outcast I don’t think so
I met Tony McCarroll a good few years ago. I didn't know who he was, he just gave me a lift as he was doing some part time driving for a utilities company I was doing some work for at the time. We got chatting as you do, and he told me he was first and foremost a musician and played the drums. I asked if he was in a band, he replied " not at the moment no". He said he fell out with one of the members of his previous band and was forced to leave. I ask a few more questions throughout the journey but it wasn't until we got to my drop of point when I asked " Oh by the way what was the name of the band you were in?" "Oasis" He came across as i very gentle sweet type of bloke. He obviously isn't an egotist like Noel Gallagher who comes across very badly in this video.
Excellent story Spencer. He definitely comes across well in the book. I prefered his drumming to White's which I always thought was a bit busy.
@@ac9110 LOL Do you hear yourself? McCarroll was decent but in no way should you compare him to White.. He is the one that set a standard and made the songs that much greater
Funny thing, I’m trucker down where I’m from in Texas and picked up some old hippie the other day. He said he was a musician as well, played guitar and sang. Said he once had a career as country singer. Turns out it was Andy Kaufman.
Should make a film on Tony, showing how it's the not how people say it is. I saw the doco Supersonic, and it looks to me like the rest of the band bullied Tony, even that prick of a studio manager in Wales wherever they were. Tony will have the last laugh I am sure
@@jonathankerr-smith8989 He should've had the last laugh but he gave away his performance royalties in that lawsuit. He was a mediocre drummer in an extraordinary band, it was only fair that he got sacked.
Tony is an average drummer and not as good as Alan White. However Tony's drumming style was perfect for Definitely Maybe, which is actually Oasis' best album in my opinion.
He’s still good though
@@Drumm3rB0y yeah i'd broadly agree. He wouldn't have done Morning Glory as much justice as Alan White but yeah, for the most part Tony was good enough.
Tony give more punkish of oasis meanwhile alan white giving more britpop(indies) but defintly maybe is fucking gold bro
I disagree. I think with a good drummer it would have catapulted definitely maybe from an outstanding album to something other worldly
Hehe Tony is my second cousin
Tony, if ye reading this yer great.
He isn’t. Ik it’s sad and he seems like a nice guy but he isn’t a good drummer. It’s sad that he had to go and did he deserve it? No, he didn’t but it had to be done
Tony is my second cousin 😂 not even lying
He matched the rest of the band.... none of them could play.....none of them were great.....they were shit ....that's what made them great.....
@@joehackney8110 He was part of their best album you cockwomble.
@@Lorenzo-cp7qs okay, that doesn’t make him good and it’s up to debate weather it’s their greatest album. Also childish insults just make your argument look even more redundant.
Supersonic and Live Forever are the most iconic drum sounds Oasis have ever had. Simple but fitted the tracks so well. Well done Tony. Yes the mix and production really makes the drums shine out in them songs but the back bone is Tony
Bring it on down too
Songs that never sounded the same again. Be nice if noel had the guts to include Tony in any reunion tour they might have. He won't though. Doubt even if Alan will get the call tbh
@@bugsthompson he doesnt even want to go on tour with liam, and you think hes getting tony? 💀💀💀
@@bugsthompsonWould almost certainly be Chris, who plays with Noel now.
Without Tony we wouldn’t have the early punk and heavy sounding Oasis we all love
It’s good to be free white room is one of the best performances the band ever gave
well noel you already are in a dance band now. but yeah I still love you man.
Lmao
😂
Jajajaja right
Have you heard BLUE MOON RISING. NOEL HFB.
I SAID...WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT??!!!!🤦♂️
his cosmic pop is shit too
Noel is hardly Jimi Hendrix and I wonder if Noel has the balls to call Zak Starkey “a talentless monkey” to his face.
I remember Tony saying in an interview that he wasn't even the worst musician in oasis. They were all quite average but well drilled and together made something special. Guiggs barely played on def maybe because his recordings weren't deemed good enough but yeah yeah Tony is hopeless 😂
He's talking tongue in cheek about the monkeys.
@@bugsthompsondefinitely man. If guigs got to stay in the band, then it was obviously a personal thing between noel and Tony
@@t3hpoopsmithTony wanted writing credits for Supersonic and a couple of other songs arguing that because Noel wrote them while he played a beat then he helped write them. Which is absolutely hilarious. You're right that it was personal, but Tony is the one that made it personal.
@@AkiraFelix-k2l I don't know any of them personally. I don't think any of us really have a full picture besides what each side says, which is obviously going to be biased. I do think the drum intro to supersonic is very iconic. Not sure if it should get a writing credit.
So Noel why don’t you play millions of scales in the guitar instead of playing that same Harrison based pentatonic over and over ?
Alan White us a good drummer but always thought Tony was hard done by, I like his drumming
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Bonehead laughing nervously, thinking “I wonder when Noel’s gonna turn on me too??”
He's tryna get Noel to shut up.
Nah boneheads kissing major arse laughing at his bosses jokes
@@fortnitepros8025 It was his band wasn't it well his and Liams.
I don’t think Tony McCarroll would of decked Noel! And what is with you Tony fans ya so fucking weird?! Noel has made that curly haired turnip a rich man without Noel letting him drum on his songs which he should consider a fucking honour he would have nothing! Absolutely nothing! Not one member of the band is with him now which says it all! You people are simple people and don’t understand people like Noel that has depth and are loners at heart coz of what’s Ed upbringing they have had of just coz there on a crusade to show the world after being beaten around as a kid that he is somebody and he’s not gonna let anyone get in the way of his ambition. Lennon Cobain McCartney were the same. Geniuses like Noel are like that and you should be grateful for it as it’s his music you listen to you selfish plonker stain. This is why I love Noel ! He don’t suffer fools
@@dondamon4669 I’m sure he did have a tough childhood - as he’s said himself, so have many others. He a great songwriter (also helped on his way by Tony and the others getting him to join the band). Maybe in your opinion those things give a free pass to be a nasty bastard. Maybe in other people’s opinions they don’t. Opinions are like arseholes pal, we’ve all got one.
You should hear Tony speak about ‘bring it in down’ apparently Noel made him do the drum takes for that track for ages then went with the first take they did. Hes actually a very neat dude, I wish i really knew why Noel had it in for him for so long
Very harsh and cruel from Noel Gallagher here
@Michael Standing "He's an arsehole and will never change" - Signs Michael Standing, a fucking nobody from TH-cam.
aero and who the fuck are you?
Noel is a great singer and song writer, and occasionally quite funny, but he can be a bit of an asshole
Have to remember he went from dole to rock and roll royalty in the space of a year. If I had a microphone stuck in my face every other day, especially in my 20s I think I'd probabaly have come across as an arsehole occasionally too :/
@@ollyf5088 Finally, someone in this comment section not making Noel sound like Dr. Cortex.
Whatever Noel says, the original line up must have had something for Alan McGee to sign them.
He sign them because he heard Live Forever. Not really because of the band, but because of a song. He didn't even knew how talented Noel was as a songwriter. He just went with "that song might make me money".
@@akirafelix3865 that's not true at all
@@1dorz McGee said that in one of his interviews. Maybe is one of many lies he has told. But i'm fairly sure, since Noel said something very similar.
@@akirafelix3865 it's well known that McGee signed them on the spot after seeing them perform at King Tut's in Scotland. They didn't play Liver Forever at that gig. That's the story that's been told over and over again. Anything else is porky pies
@@1dorzme when I spread misinformation
I bet Noel ate his words when Whitey joined the band.
Yeah, Alan White on the drums made a HUGE difference to their sound.
Yeah.. Alan adviced Noel on tempo changes and fitted rythm tracks for his songs
Noel even said Alan White doesn’t know how good of a drummer he can be
@@Snipersounds White finished Oasis as a band........lost the rawness and turned their sound into shite maybe DEFINITELY!
@@owdladowdlad3889 not really shite. It's just different mate and it fits the album.
The thing is - Tony was absolutely not prepared for being in the biggest band in the world, but neither is anyone currently reading this comment.
And neither were any of the members of the biggest band “in the world”. They couldn’t fill an arena in Seattle at the time.
Calling Oasis "the biggest band in the world" is insane. They are barely a good band that scored a hit with Wonderwall... Don't look back in anger (Ironic) is a good try of a song
Guys, Noel is very obviously joking when he said drummers were smelly useless talentless loosers. I mean, he plays drums himself, and looks up to Ringo Starr as an idle for crying out loud.
Of course he is it’s his sense of humour
Didn't know Noel's 'idle' was Ringo Starr
Yup…I sold Noel a 1960s Gretsch set..in 2001…..and..some nice vintage cymbals too….
Idol
Bonhead was unreal rythym guitarist
I'm 40 year old grew up listening to all the early oasis tracks. I'm on a job at bolton hospital and tony is an air conditioning engineer and he's a top bloke. From an oasis fan. Tony is a good lad
Tony is by far the most underrated oasis member.
Noel Gallagher is a nasty piece of work. Liam seems alot more human these days and more likeable as he has gotten older.
Hey, he's had a childhood of being beaten by his own dad, you know! At least Noel doesn't get banned from airlines for life, put in prison cells, or kick and punch like Liam. Liam is a loose cannon, dude.
@@obd9660 I know right. Anytime I hear people say that I think...Noels never been arrested for physically assaulting people. There is no video footage of noel grabbing his girlfriend by the neck. Noels never been quoted saying he doesn't want anything to do with his daughters. I mean how exactly is Noel the "nasty" brother. Cause he says funny, admittedly sometimes insensitive things on occasion and only when prompted. I'd take someone making fun of me for comedic purposes vs someone actually meaning the insults they are throwing my way before swinging a guitar at my head, any day.
@@obd9660 I agree with alot of what you have said to be fair but alot of Liams dickhead behaviour came from years ago and i am referring to the Liam of recent. I always preferred Noel and like you, i thought Liam was a thug! In recent times both Liam and Noel have changed, one for the better and the other for the worst.
@@frfrbsb I am talking about both brothers in the present tense. Liam has been a nob but he seems a lot more mature these days, Noel on the other hand.
@@sentientexplorer how exactly has liam matured . Most of the things I mentioned have happened within the last 5 years. I'm sorry, the only thing that liam has learned is how to play the game better. Before if he physically hurt someone he would arrogantly say the other person deserved it and he was right to do what he did. Now he denies it and when shown video footage of the incident he remains silent and waits for people to forget . Noel on the other hand , is only kind of mean when he reacts to liam. Most other things people have an issue with him says are people over reacting or not understanding what he is a actually saying.
Without a drummer you don’t have a backbone
He was joking you twat
and you dont have bonehead
Noel ain't exactly no Jonny Marr or Jonny squire he been done by the two Jonny's😂😂
It was funny, Noel came into liams band and slowly but surely removed everyone from the band.
And then painted the picture that Liam was the villain.
It’s funny having a modern perspective on narcissism and such and looking back on all this
I cannot agree with you more. I mean, if you hear the drums on live forever, its just impossible to say that Tony was a bad drummer. Maybe not the best in the world but definitely very good still. If youve been in a band together for so long, became massive out of nothing, there must be some brotherhood connection between you and one another. But Noel just slams him, like a high school bully. He was 28 at the time he sacked him. If youre still a bully by that age youre just not a nice person, from the inside out. I always looked at Liam as the villain too, but lately I realize that Liam is just messing around a bit being a bit arrogant. He performs for the NHS, at 1 love manchester, wished Tony a speedy recovery after his heart attack a month ago and all that, and Noel? None of this all. Noel doesnt even speak to his brother Paul apparently. Paul seems like one of the nicest brothers you can have. It becomes clear to me that Noel cares for himself only basically.
Stop it. Oasis only made it big because of Noel. It was his band.
Noel does not come across as a particularly nice guy, especially in the earlier days of Oasis, and his treatment of Tony was bad. From Tony's book, it does seem that Noel was almost trying to get him to quit with all the bullying behaviour. Perhaps Tony did well to last as long as he did, as Noel was always going to get rid of him. Just a shame he had to be so nasty, as others here have said, he could have done it in a much more tactful way, but he wasn't really known for tact. Noel does come across as nasty and ruthless, by that point though he held all the cards. And I do think there is a large element of it being due to Noel having no faith in Tony's abilities for the 2nd record. Listening to his drumming on Definitely Maybe, and watching him live, it is difficult to imagine him playing anything other than the Stomping 4/4 beat which he did so well on the first album, but which wasn't going to work for the more intricate songs on the 2nd album. The bass player was an even more rudimentary musician than Tony, but the drums are so important as the backbone. I guess Tony could have practised and worked on his drumming, but I don't think Noel would have backed him to do that. It's just a shame Noel had to be so callous and couldn't appreciate Tony's role in the band up to that point (he was in it before Noel).
Wouldn’t have blamed Tony if he decked Noel
@@rampageclover9788 I think he threatened to, towards the end, and that basically sealed his fate - according to Tony's book.
Colin Macgregor that “drummers are losers” comment though. I’m amazed he didn’t get stick for that generally...
That drummer is shit. Beatles sacked a shit drummer, too. Bye, felicia.
@@jamesball5743 what iconic albums did you play on?
Binehead laughing... in case he gets fired next
Noel just wanted Tony to be Oasis' Pete Best.
Good take.
He should've sacked him before he'd already played on a number one album and multiple top ten singles then lmao
Noels a propper ass and without that drummer they could never recapture that punk sound that was found on the debut album. It's funny how the band imploded on itself and all abecause of Noel and Liam. Noel was right sneaky, he made sure that he would have the power to sack any member of the band written into the contract and he wasn't the founder of the band. Rather, Noel was the last member to join to complete Oasis. I seems he always had an eye on going solo and that's how it all panned out.
100% truth and facts
@@QueenLiliTheRed How many songs did he copy too. They also had the same antichrist agenda as the Beatles. Song writing aided by demonic spirits as they were nothing but puppets for the devil. And they were bloody Irish not British.
Totally agree - Tony drumming gave the band an edgy indie cool vibe - after he was sacked the sound became too slick and polished - ruined the band in my opinion
Funny that their best album is the only one he's on
He's also on Some Might Say... the best song off Morning Glory
@@waycnf7229 that he is 👍
@@waycnf7229Agreed.
Reminds me of the Pete Best situation slightly.
Oh yes.
I think Noel plays the drums himself?Some of the early Noel Gallagher high flying bird demos I’ve been told it’s him playing the drums on those songs
The drums on Half The World Away are by Noel
Tony is better on the drums than Noel come on now
@@rizvanxd8724 and how he couldn't play Half The World Away? Isn't that one of the easiest songs ever? Noel isn't suposed to be a good drummer, he's suposed to be a good songwriter. Tony couldn't even do what he was suposed to do. A proper drummer.
@@akirafelix3865it was reported that Noel prohibits Tony from getting anywhere near the drums for that song.
Tony had feelings though
tony was the backbone in the early days
Well, Noel got his wish with the drum machines.
I wonder why he didn't think to get drumming lessons or they didn't tell him to get lessons. It's best to keep practicing and keep trying don't let people get you down.
I can't remember where I read it...so I don't know if its true or not. But it said that they did get him lessons, tony just refused to go because he thought it was 1) insulting and 2) not needed. Hmmm, I've read and watched too many Oasis things to pin point where that info came from so you can decided whether a reliable source or not. Sorry.
Yeah it would’ve probably helped, and he did have the foundation’s to be really good, but I think his fate was sealed by then. A bit of an Alpha male vibe going on in the band, and he was an easy target. Got to feel for him, but at least he got to play on their Debut.
It’s a good point, I just think he was in a place where Noel was the dictator, and he probably couldn’t do anything right in Noel’s eyes by that point. Noel Gallagher is a great songwriter, but definitely hasn’t been the nicest of guys over the years. Never really had a lot of good to say about anyone, except the Beatles, Paul Weller and himself.
@@frfrbsb I do remember reading that. It might have been in Paul Gallagher’s book. Can’t have been easy also once they were touring relentlessly.
Love Oasis but can imagine Noel being a nightmare to work for lol
the only Oasis beats I can remember off the top of my head are Tony's beats, to be fair. Oasis had no rhythm after he left
Bonehead looks terrified
I wonder if Noel would have achieved any success if he hadn't joined Oasis, who were already a band, with Tony and the other founder members?!
He doesn't seen to think so
There's a freedom, atmosphere, and in the most positive sense, looseness, in that first album that the drumming contributes in equal parts to the other elements. He may have a point on the next album, but for me Noel just took more of that space, and while there is nothing wrong with Alan White's drumming, it was the start of the playing members of Oasis resembling a backing band. Hard to see Bonehead and Guigsy's musicianship being any less than McCarroll's also.
I don't mind them sacking Tony actually if its due to musical reasons but the way they did it was very old-fashioned and kind of changed my view on Noel, He was no different to your average foreman at your worksite. Perhaps it's a cause of their low education level? No empathy skills whatsoever.
And the lack of support he got from the other guys ('part from Bonehead who didn't really have a say in the band's hierarchy) is shocking. No wonder Tony sued them later. They could've been like millions time nicer to him and still replace him.
ChainNonSmoker I agree👍🏻. You want to fired your band mates for not being good enough ? That's fine, just send him a proper farewell. If liam wasn't his brother I think he might even get fired as well
Tony did get treat like shit but he was still part of something big. Noel and Tony got on well when they were young but when Oasis were starting to become big relations were strained. Noel slammed Tony's drumming ability and said he wasn't good enough for a number one record. How wrong was he?
ChainNonSmoker he was treated like garbage in the band, but if he couldn’t play songs I could when I was 13 I don’t think he should be in a successful band
Vladislav The Poker I don’t think it was that, it’s because his voice was irreplaceable and he had the looks etc. I’d be like taking MJ out of the Jackson 5.
You don't write 'Slide Away' and 'Talk Tonight' if you're lacking empathy.
What happen to noel teeth here lol
white line lol
Crack
Its from eating shit
british
I bet he wouldn’t have said that to Ginger Bakers face, he’d have knocked him right out.
Noel comes across as rude and arrogant here.
Noel is good friends with Lars Ulrich of Metallica I wonder if he seen this lol Lars would probably laugh and agree anyway
Lars is shite
Say what your will Lars got me drumming and countless others into drumming. The drumming on And Justice for all was great. Like Tony he got the job done.
Noel isn’t the best in guitar either he fucking sucks to be fair he has no right to talk all that shit to tony first and for most
Imagine him saying that that to Keith moon or ginger Baker...his guitar would've been shoved down his throught and his body thrown into the Manchester ship canal...
You can tell the situation from how awkward bone heads laugh is...
I don’t think so. Bonehead looks like he’s having a good laugh
Bonehead looked like Bert from Sesame Street! 🙈😂
Even on his old age, Noel is very passive aggressive. The guy is a bully and probably never had anyone say no to him. Apple doesn’t fall to far from the tree….🌴 🍎
Met Noel and Liam both in 1997. Noel was a complete bellend, full of his own self importance and arrogant. Contrast that with Liam who was a down to earth fella who gave a fan time. This interview just sums up Noel. Hope Tony is doing well. Oasis fans of old appreciate your contribution to the band.
Never met them but the same year 1997 in Feltham when they were filming stand by me, Liam saw 2 of my mates who would have been 11 at the time from his car and gave them the 2 finger salute, presumably because they were both wearing Man United tops. I've always liked him for that lol.
Funny how the main man now wasn't actually park of the founding members......only for tony there would be no Oasis...
Loved to have seen him say that to Roger Taylor or Charlie Watts or Keith Moon....
Noel said himself he's a control freak, they're the worst kinda people, horrible 😑 😒 😐
He is a good drummer way better than white his drumming on don't look back in anger is truly shocking
So….. Tony sacked ….. Bonehead Quits …….Quigsy Quits …….Allen White sacked…….Liam left high and dry in France …..?………seem the problem was Noel all along ..
The guy is a complete control freak and an asshole. Even Andy Bell didn't like him.
Whitey quits, not sacked.
Alan left because he didn’t get on with Liam. Noel said he had to stand by his brother so asked Alan to leave. So it wasn’t always Noel that was the problem. I can imagine Liam in his younger years being a bit of a bully.
@@daniellefrancis1476 I think in the early days with the coke an all, they were both nightmares. Liam seems alright now though. Still not sure about Noel.
Just finished McCarrolls book Guigsy comes out of it even worse than Noel
Guigsy kissing Noel's arse for breakfast, lunch and tea. Shameful. Surely it would get tiring, yes-manning a madman all the time?
@@deadseagull-xf3lk A mad-man? They guy that got them to the point of where they were? dunno if I would go that far....
@@realsinisterminister If you weren't Liam Gallagher you were totally expendable. Bone looks genuinely spooked that Noel is being so vicious with a dude he's lived with, eaten with and partied with. Toured in busses with. A founding member. A bandmate. Noel comes off a little weird here with the hatred and it's clear Bonehead is nervous of him. Noel has no problem humiliating Tony here infront of the world, not giving a shit that Tony has a little girl at home who doesn't need to see her father ripped apart on TV years later. After the Whiskey-a-go-go incident, Noel was 100% in charge with an iron fist.
@@deadseagull-xf3lk Noel even said Tony would be back on the dole by the end of the year when he was still IN the band.......I like Tony's punk rock drumming that 1st album is brilliant
Bonehead with that laughing along with the bully laugh or getting a slap
Slates drummers here. John Bonham would be disapointed in his words. So would Ringo.
He's joking, dude.
@@obd9660 he bedder be or therell be shit to pay.
@@callumcoates-keddypsychesy5954
Also, need I remind you that Noel admires, worships, and looks up to the Beatles? Why would he slate Ringo Starr, someone who is part of a band he admires?
I love Oasis but they're not exactly bloody Pink Floyd or King Crimson. Do they really need a highly technical drummer. Tony sounds fine to me on the debut
All of Oasis member was just an average musician, and thats include Noel. What makes Oasis good is Noel songwriting talent.
Good 😊 Stolen 20 Oasis to....!
Anyone know what year that interview is from?
Funny how noel never talks about guiggs performance on that album. 🤔
I love Noel Gallagher and grew up with his music, still, Tony McCarrol contribution to Definitely Maybe is much more relavant than the invisible bass lines of a par time bass player like Guigsy and the useless melodies of Boneheads Barrè chords. I'm a huge Oasis fan, however, I also believe Oasis fans are not really able to really judge music talent (that's what I was before studying music for real). For the love of god, Oasis are not Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd or the who, they lived years out of the success of 2 albums and their b-sides. To me, Tony McCarrol was more distinctive than the boring beat of Alan White.
This is why I hate Noel
What horrible mean spirited sod Gallagher is. Zero humility and nowhere near as good as he thinks he is.
From this video I can see why he's divorced.
Noel comes across as a right plonker here, describing drums in a derogatory manner. It’s possible he’s only joking but a good drummer makes a band. McCaroll was one of the best things about the debut album.
I wish he'd say this to Billy Cobham haha. He'd snap him in half. There are some drummers that lack talent but overall it requires a lot of skill to play drums. Now strumming a few chords like that asswipe, how much talent does that require?
I think he sounded great personally
The band is only as good as the drummer
Man I don’t care if this immensely mean, this is absolutely hilarious 🤣
It’s really not
As Noel said, it wasn't a band for wimps. You needed thick skin.
Noel cant fight sleep ..she hes hsd his newtons done
If Oasis had of debuted any of they’re other albums they wouldn’t have even got a second album deal!
And if my sister had a dick she’d be my brother..
Bullies.
Nasty
As someone who knows extremely little to nothing about drums can someone who does know about drums tell me why Tony wasn’t good enough and why Alan was allegedly so much better.
It has to do with the fact that Tony played pretty much the same beat on almost every song (kick, snare, kick-kick, snare) and didn't really do a lot of fills or intricate stuff like ghost notes, or even just used his toms more. Alan is just a more technically proficent drummer and his parts are really creative (Don't Look Back In Anger being the biggest example of this, another good example is his drumming in live versions of Champagne Supernova). Now don't get me wrong, I still very much like Tony's drumming and Alan's all the same, just for different reasons.
@@doctorrobert1339 it's coz Alan could keep time and Tony was a little lax in that department. Agree with everything else you said
Your opinion matters as much as the most experienced musician matty, chefs shouldnt make food for chefs!
as a drummer i’m hurt 😔
Take a shower you smelly drummer
I feel you 😪
I’m not hurt, Noel is a talentless twat anyway. 😂
that pretty much sums up what I think of Noel!!!......he's hasn't got a fucking clue and only ever ripped off the Beatles
Funny..Taylor Hawkins was a huge fan of Oasis..I wonder if he ever heard this clip?
That noel at the end, Tony didn't de that.
They had terrible teeth back then
The irony is that Noel Gallagher is a very, VERY average guitar player. People in glass houses....
It's meat and potatoes rock and roll. Nobody was wanting or needing Vai.
@@deadseagull-xf3lk yeah I agree.... but if you read my comment again, I'm talking about Noel saying Tony was too basic of a drummer which is hypocritical. In fact your comment also backs up what I'm saying... no one was wanting or needing Jimmy Chamberlain.
Yeah and? Oasis would've got nowhere without him. Tony was replaceable, Noel wasn't, simple.
@@kingkinkladze7352 Noel wasn't replaceable because of his song writing which is a completely different topic. Make a valid point.
@@grahamt19781 exactly.. in any case Noel will tell you himself he's a prick. But his band his rules.
Yet their only lp worth a shit is their first one.
Do you see the difference in Blur and Oasis? When one of the members on Blur was having mental problems Damon put the band on a 2 year brake until the member was better. Could you imagine Noel doing anything even remotely nice like that if one of oasis got sick. That's what you call friendship, apparently oasis were meant to be friends who grew up with each other.
reading tony's book really shifted the way i look at noel tbh. i still don't like him.
Gene Krupa is laughing in his grave.
I'd rather be smelly than be a backstabbing prick.....Just saying.
Everyone is offended 😂 but hat doesn't mean that he was wrong.
I don't really like shakermaker
Tony and Steve Adler where the same. Yeah not as good as white and sorum but they had a griitenest to them. The songs played by the latter is good but missing that rawness to them. I'm not sure why bonehead laughing. He was a barre chord player exclusively. Still love the guy but c'mon ....
Says a mediocre guitarist of one of the most overrated bands every. Insulting musicians right there, proves he has no idea about music.
Noel tell that to reni
Alan white more technical but Tony was better for the band. Pure momentum, rock n roll heavy shit 🤘
let’s hear rock n roll star without the drums then lol
Hahahaha poor Tony
Got nothing to with Noel surounded by yes men then and blowing smoke up his arse and Tony stood up to him and he never forgot it and uses the bullshit couldnt drum excuse to get rid of him.
No wonder he hates Phil Collins
It’s obvious he’s being ironic.
loool
Tony was one of founders of oasis. Noel comes to me as arrogant and egocentric. At the very begging of oasis, it was liam who begged tonny and guigs to let noel get into the band. Seems like they were friends back then. i dont think tony like noels as much, or noels in an asshole. Things tony say about noel in his book, make it seems like noels not a very nice person