All of the arguments against fighting in the NHL could be used against boxing or MMA. They, too, are doing irreparable damage to their brains, but nobody speaks out against those sports. It's part of the game. The players want it there by a vast majority. Get over it. Contact sports will always yield injuries and undesirable consequences.
If you can't see the flaw in your argument maybe you've had a few too many punches. MMA and boxing are all about fighting, that's what those guys do. Hockey players main job is to play hockey, not fight. I grew up playing and watching hockey, but as an adult I've now seen what the fighting does to some of these players, and I don't see it as anything to cheer about any longer.
All the critics always complain about how “unsafe the fighting is” these guys get paid millions of dollars to do this job. Any boxer or mma fighter can get addicted to pills aswell. I miss the days of the hockey fight. It’s a long lost sport of its own within the sport.
I agree. I think fans who like the fighting too much are barbarians. Fighting is not an essential part of the game and many leagues do not tolerate it at all -- even the highest level, Olympic hockey. The NHL needs automatic suspensions for fighting to stop it. We do not need to be treating athletes -- that is, human beings -- as if they are arena bait for the amusement of an audience of sociopaths.
we don't need to get rid of fighting, we need better therapeutic specialists and counselors to help with the addiction problems, and to help with the rehabilitation of injuries.
Brain injuries are finally getting the attention & concern they merit. Hard to watch NFL football too- so many violent collisions that can lead to brain damage.
why do people allow this to go on .its not hockey its bare knuckled fighting that should be done at another time and place .how can parents allow children to watch the fighting .it is killing hockey players and you call it sport
It's a slippery slop. The only way to truly take fighting out of the game is to take body checking out too and if you do that the sport will suffer greatly and the money will go from it. Don't mess with it, trust me
Lol, I hate that. Atleast he didn't say it's "Blank dipped in blank". So much misinformation about drugs it's scary. Kids learn about all drugs being killers in school, then once they find out the truth about marijuana and alcohol, end up thinking all drugs must be safe.
11:46 Bruins fans are some of the most barbaric people I can think of. It's not that they don't have a talented team, i is that they take pride in the fact that they have a team capable of fighting. It is sad that the NHL lets them get away with that. One would think that after an event like the Boston Marathon bombing that they would have learned that violence has serious consequences, but I don't think it will ever sink in to their minds.
Violet Deliriums dude wtf. Ur comparing a national sport to a terrorist attack. The marathon had nothing to do with Boston but all to do with the nation. Honestly, how low do u have to be to make that comparison
hockey is a sport for players who can learn their roles well score goal and become great players it isn't a boxing match! when will the nhl learn the affects of what it does to the brain. it is the nhl who should be held accountable for their actions. in hiring players with the ability who can play a fair game and score goals it isn't about these head pounding brawls
The NHL is already becoming very soft and that's to bad...instead of catering to the die hard fans that have kept the league alive all these years they are trying to make it this soft shell of itself and that is a very sad thing to see
What does it say about the game (and the fans) if it can only be profitable if there is a fistfight in every game? Shouldn't the NBA and NFL have enforcers too? They seem to make do with personal fouls and penalties, and last I checked those leagues make billion$.
Doctor: "If everyone knew what I knew, they would not be as excited about these fights." Everyone: "We couldn't care less if their brains get scrambled and they end up as a walking corpse. Just give us our fights. There'll always be more kids in their 20's."
He was used up as a piece of meat . Not one so called freind , or loving family member or professional sports team gave a crap and still couldn't care less.
With all respect, nobody is forced to do this or that job. Its freedom of choice of every individuality. Where would these guys make so much dollars doing this? For 2 - 3 season he makes so much that ordinary US or Canadian family will not save up for century. So its conscious choice, its dangerous, its risky business, they know. I would say its about not stepping over the edge, like ok, I have made good money, is it still worth it for me? What can I get and what can I lose if I keep going?
love the game of hockey and have forover 40 yrs but after watching what these enforcers go thru I'm not sure it's worth it for them. Guys are so much bigger than back in the early 70's and these guys career can and are ending in one fight one punch. They have to live life with all the damage thats been inflicted on them. To me thats not a trade off for such a short career making large amounts of money.
lol they over exaggerate the injuries yes the concussions are serious, especially when hitting the ice with the back of your head...but they talk about a broken nose or a broken cheek bone like these guys went into cardiac arrest or something
youre an idiot. the point they are making is several concussions and always getting punched in the skull will lead to minor (best case scenario) to major brain damage over time. if you really think getting punched in the head 100+ times a year will have no effect on your overall and long-term health youre even dumber than i thought. and they never really over-exaggerated any injuries. they never said how bad a broken nose was or anything, and the only reason they briefly brought up the broken cheek bone is because the dude needed 4 metal plates in his face and it changed how he fought and how he played the game
+WALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOW exactly. the clown above has probably never been punched and loves to see the others do the dirty work.
Anyone who thinks hockey needs fighting to be exciting, or that fighting is just part of the game must have taken a few too many punches to the head themselves. Some of the best hockey that's ever been played has been international hockey - going all the way back to the 70s when NHLers first played the Soviets, the Canada Cups, the Olympics - where fighting is almost non-existent. I'll take that hockey over the staged dramatics that these enforcers engage in night after night.
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RIP boogard. Those moments wilds chanting for him were amazing
I've gained a lot of respect for fedoruk from this.
6:04 oh my oh my...
R.I.P. Boogy! I will never forget you. You may be in heaven, but the memories stay with us!
I remember when LeMaire through Boogaard, Chris Simon and Todd Feduryk out on the ice. epic old time hockey
All of the arguments against fighting in the NHL could be used against boxing or MMA. They, too, are doing irreparable damage to their brains, but nobody speaks out against those sports. It's part of the game. The players want it there by a vast majority. Get over it. Contact sports will always yield injuries and undesirable consequences.
If you can't see the flaw in your argument maybe you've had a few too many punches. MMA and boxing are all about fighting, that's what those guys do. Hockey players main job is to play hockey, not fight. I grew up playing and watching hockey, but as an adult I've now seen what the fighting does to some of these players, and I don't see it as anything to cheer about any longer.
All the critics always complain about how “unsafe the fighting is” these guys get paid millions of dollars to do this job. Any boxer or mma fighter can get addicted to pills aswell. I miss the days of the hockey fight. It’s a long lost sport of its own within the sport.
Rest Peacfully Boogieman..... Doesnt matter what anyone says about you, You did what you did cause you the loved the sport.
Does anybody know the name of the song at 8:38? Does those highlight reel videos still exist somewhere?
I'll always love you Boogie.
...so sad..
I agree. I think fans who like the fighting too much are barbarians. Fighting is not an essential part of the game and many leagues do not tolerate it at all -- even the highest level, Olympic hockey. The NHL needs automatic suspensions for fighting to stop it. We do not need to be treating athletes -- that is, human beings -- as if they are arena bait for the amusement of an audience of sociopaths.
The announcer saying "I hope he's not hurt" while dude was sleeping with his eyes open was hilarious.
It is incredible how your dream can become real in mysterious ways...
Who remembers Tony Twist?
"Twister' was dangerous enforcer. Too bad his career was cut short
@@TJD-69 yes, he was a beast.
Just his mere presence scared the crap out of the Ducks
we don't need to get rid of fighting, we need better therapeutic specialists and counselors to help with the addiction problems, and to help with the rehabilitation of injuries.
1:44 "the 23 old fighter" wtf?
R.I.P Derek
Brain injuries are finally getting the attention & concern they merit. Hard to watch NFL football too- so many violent collisions that can lead to brain damage.
THE GOAT JOHN SCOTT 0:39
Probert is the goat.
why do people allow this to go on .its not hockey its bare knuckled fighting that should be done at another time and place .how can parents allow children to watch the fighting .it is killing hockey players and you call it sport
It's a slippery slop. The only way to truly take fighting out of the game is to take body checking out too and if you do that the sport will suffer greatly and the money will go from it. Don't mess with it, trust me
I thought the doc was called PUNCHED OUT: THE RISE AND FALL OF DEREK BOOGAARD? Is that a different documentary? Or is there 2 parts?
This is jst a part. There is a 36 mins one. Search for it
Lol, I hate that. Atleast he didn't say it's "Blank dipped in blank". So much misinformation about drugs it's scary. Kids learn about all drugs being killers in school, then once they find out the truth about marijuana and alcohol, end up thinking all drugs must be safe.
This is the stance
god I hate the new York times...
why couldn't someone good do this documentary
You're intellectually challenged!
11:46 Bruins fans are some of the most barbaric people I can think of. It's not that they don't have a talented team, i is that they take pride in the fact that they have a team capable of fighting. It is sad that the NHL lets them get away with that. One would think that after an event like the Boston Marathon bombing that they would have learned that violence has serious consequences, but I don't think it will ever sink in to their minds.
Violet Deliriums dude wtf. Ur comparing a national sport to a terrorist attack. The marathon had nothing to do with Boston but all to do with the nation. Honestly, how low do u have to be to make that comparison
hockey is a sport for players who can learn their roles well score goal and become great players it isn't a boxing match! when will the nhl learn the affects of what it does to the brain. it is the nhl who should be held accountable for their actions. in hiring players with the ability who can play a fair game and score goals it isn't about these head pounding brawls
Dude looked scary even rip boogeyman
RIP Boogeyman
The NHL is already becoming very soft and that's to bad...instead of catering to the die hard fans that have kept the league alive all these years they are trying to make it this soft shell of itself and that is a very sad thing to see
What does it say about the game (and the fans) if it can only be profitable if there is a fistfight in every game? Shouldn't the NBA and NFL have enforcers too? They seem to make do with personal fouls and penalties, and last I checked those leagues make billion$.
Doctor: "If everyone knew what I knew, they would not be as excited about these fights."
Everyone: "We couldn't care less if their brains get scrambled and they end up as a walking corpse. Just give us our fights. There'll always be more kids in their 20's."
yeah, sad
why would you allow that to happen? this isn’t fight club.
He was used up as a piece of meat . Not one so called freind , or loving family member or professional sports team gave a crap and still couldn't care less.
With all respect, nobody is forced to do this or that job. Its freedom of choice of every individuality. Where would these guys make so much dollars doing this? For 2 - 3 season he makes so much that ordinary US or Canadian family will not save up for century. So its conscious choice, its dangerous, its risky business, they know. I would say its about not stepping over the edge, like ok, I have made good money, is it still worth it for me? What can I get and what can I lose if I keep going?
if you dont like fighting dont watch hockey cuz its stickin around its a aprt of the game and people CJOOSE to do it.
Say this to his family...Say this to his mother...Say it to his father...to his brothers...face to face!
Andre Markovic implying boogard didnt already say it. your a dope
Sadly, it seems the refs have been watching soccer and now break up every fight
love the game of hockey and have forover 40 yrs but after watching what these enforcers go thru I'm not sure it's worth it for them. Guys are so much bigger than back in the early 70's and these guys career can and are ending in one fight one punch. They have to live life with all the damage thats been inflicted on them. To me thats not a trade off for such a short career making large amounts of money.
Battle of the Hockey Enforcers.
How did he die!
overdose - antidouleurs
Shame.
lol they over exaggerate the injuries yes the concussions are serious, especially when hitting the ice with the back of your head...but they talk about a broken nose or a broken cheek bone like these guys went into cardiac arrest or something
youre an idiot. the point they are making is several concussions and always getting punched in the skull will lead to minor (best case scenario) to major brain damage over time. if you really think getting punched in the head 100+ times a year will have no effect on your overall and long-term health youre even dumber than i thought.
and they never really over-exaggerated any injuries. they never said how bad a broken nose was or anything, and the only reason they briefly brought up the broken cheek bone is because the dude needed 4 metal plates in his face and it changed how he fought and how he played the game
LOL look at combat sports ... they eat a lot more shots that actually hit with out a helmet these cats barely even land half the time
+WALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOWALOW exactly. the clown above has probably never been punched and loves to see the others do the dirty work.
+SnipedBigTime bare knucles is a big difference. you would not know as you have never taken a shot from a 220 lb er before
Anyone who thinks hockey needs fighting to be exciting, or that fighting is just part of the game must have taken a few too many punches to the head themselves. Some of the best hockey that's ever been played has been international hockey - going all the way back to the 70s when NHLers first played the Soviets, the Canada Cups, the Olympics - where fighting is almost non-existent. I'll take that hockey over the staged dramatics that these enforcers engage in night after night.
call down man, the guy is dead now. i bet your not nearly as good as him.
goon
Enforcer. He didn't pick fights all the time, he didn't hit people dirtily, and he did his job for his team.
@@dataintfalco6472 he talking about the movie num nuts
In supporting fights, NHL fans are betraying their belief that the game itself is boring as hell.
Babayega
FREE YGG. one word Appeal