Always like the videos that show the slide in. Very helpful for when we trade in our 26DJSE knowing what to add to our wish list. PBR light is a must have!
I've owned one since 19. Its awesome and held up very well. I moved wall with two slider doors in master, to allow for a full queens bed. Very easy to do and for a tall person makes a world of difference. I do like my 2 way fridge even though i loose out on space...
Camp queen (and lack to change it) kills it for me. Btw, video was worth it just on knowing that major detail, The Kids in the Hall reference and the fact that you’re not on the crocs bandwagon. 👍🏻
We have the 2021 version and the 2022 has done a few minor modifications obviously. That third brake light is a plus for sure. The ice maker while being the same manufacturer, seems to be different too. But all in all, a great 1st timer TT.
Ice makers have been a little different each time I've seen them come in. I think they're making sure they have a fully featured and functioning RV while not being "stuck" on specific appliances
That appears ot be a plastic toilet in this model. Easy mod to swap it out though, and I'm sure they could get it done at the dealer if it's a make or break thing for you.
If Josh doesn’t mention the toilet then you definitely know it’s plastic. When any RV has a porcelain toilet he will always take the time to inform you😉
I like the camp kitchen better on my 2021, the burner layout and sink basin comes in handy. Otherwise this is a great camper! I would add that I originally bought this and pulled it with my 2009 1/2 ton, and it was ok but with a family of 5 and some luggage in the bed I was topping out my payload. The new 3/4 ton gasser I bought tows this thing like its a feather and I don't have to use sway bars anymore. Those drawers under the dinette are great! They need to fix the bunk privacy curtains though, the top curtain should go all the way across, with another curtain just for the bottom bunk. With kids in each they mess with each other when both curtains are in use as they are. Just a minor thing though. Great trailer, we love it! That quiet AC works great and the furnace/fireplace combo can more than roast us over night! I just wish they included the shade in at least the bathroom exterior door, if you turn the light on at night you can see right in from the outside without it. Oh yeah and that big bath fan will pull a vacuum on the trailer with a window not open! And yes, the pantry is so big we can store dry food, pots/pans, and some of the kids clothes for our weekend or long weekend trips. I'll add too those zebra blinds on the slide windows are great. At 6ft tall the short queen bed is ok, if I were any taller though it would probably be a deal breaker. The travel access with slide closed is also great! I will also add, I've hit 2 things with the trailer right now because of not paying attention to what I was doing. Stick and tin unit was easy to repair, if it were laminated I would have been screwed.
Have you had any issues with the outdoor camp kitchen burners warming/melting the knobs. I have a 2021 GreyWolf 26dbh. I purchased a wind guard and it helps, but it seems like the knobs are just to close in general.
@@raulcorona5608 I haven't had that problem, I've actually found them to be a bit weak. Couldn't boil a pot of water, but heats up small sides like beans ok
We have used our 2021 26dbh about 8 trips so far and love it. I agree about the outdoor kitchen, I like ‘21 better. Also agree about that bathroom fan! I literally sucks our vinyl floor up of there are no windows cracked open. They don’t glue the vinyl down anymore, only on the perimeter. Love our 26dbh. Recently added a slide out awning:)
Mine few years old has more usb ports . The sunroof is awesome . Deff a loaded camper. Selling mine only to go bigger for passport 2950. If i dont sell i still will enjoy it.
@@JoshtheRVNerd I used to work in an old factory that had a pretty bad infestation of cellar spiders. It wasn't uncommon to have them drop down on you for a visit. I almost jumped off a scissor lift one time when I disturbed a bunch of them! 🤣
If it says “RV/marine” antifreeze then you’re fine. Either works. Recommend the stuff that isn’t made with animal fat. Makes your lines stink when flushed
pretty much yeah. The wiring is all the proper gauge to handle 400-450ish watts of solar. You'd daisy chain the panels together. It's great you understand talking about solar is pointless without talking about batteries a good ratio is 200amp hours of battery for 400w of solar. That's an awesome charging vs storage ratio
I've never liked that bedroom setup on any Floorplan that has it but the rest is nice, idk if its just me but having that one little bunk support in that rear storage area scares me lol, great unit overall👍👍
This is probably our favorite floor plan and trailer, but the tongue weight is a bit of a killer. At over 700lbs dry you can easily blow past your payload capacity on a '1/2 ton' truck. We started to look at Keystone Bullet models because of the weight savings they offer.
I have a 2007 Cherokee. Has 4 smaller bunks in back, and a very small bathroom a cross from the dinette. Makes for a tight squeeze. My wife and I often talk what it would be like to have a nice rear bath and a little more living space. Like a couples camper. We leave ours permanently parked at Twin Mills campground in Howe Indiana. Less than an hour from you. Maybe some Saturday, we'll drive up and visit your dealership.
I seen this on your new Bish's website in Utah and wanted to get info and purchase from that location but nobody would return my calls. I ended up buying from another dealer unfortunately in a different state. Hopefully when I take to your Salt Lake location I get better service. The Trailer is great unit.
Randy I can only thank you for offering us the opportunity to earn your business and apologize for falling short. Can't fault you for purchasing elsewhere in that case. TY for sharing this. I'll get it to the location manager so they can see where things fell apart and hopefully learn from the experience.
Has anyone had any issues with the outdoor camp kitchen burners warming/melting the knobs? I have a 2021 GreyWolf 26dbh. I purchased a wind guard and it helps, but it seems like the knobs are just to close in general.
Hello I just purchased a hard wall 2021 black label which is pretty much the same as the trailer you have on here. I’m curious know what that charging port is on the right side of the queen bed. It has to copper prongs pointing out. I’m also having issues with connecting with the back up camera all it has is retry. Any ideas?
Best I can say is "probably" I can't offer anything more specific without a better idea of how many people you're hauling to make sure you don't cook that hitch/payload rating
If you mean, it will pull 9200 lbs, you should be ok, unless you put a lot of other stuff in the truck. My Armada has no issues, and it can pull 8500 (at altitude)
Cherokees have some very nice floorplans with some very nice features but they also have some very entry level features with the stick and tin build, a plastic toilet, a shower curtain, no ladder, no dinette drawer guides, camp queen mattresses, and no standard TV which most other manufacturers do provide?
Depends on the brand. In this class of stick and tin campers they're definitely right in the pocket matching up nicely with most. If you compare them vs. many laminated RV then yeah -- those features feel lacking. These are also thousands less as a result. Where cherokee does a great job I think is making sure everything is set up for you to make a few small tweaks to fit your preferences without needing any major rebuild work. Simple toilet swap and done. And given their now #1 in the market overwhelming popularity it seems that plan is working!
@@JoshtheRVNerd I think the next 5 years of trade ins will tell us a whole lot about the quality control of every manufacturer over the past 18 months or so. The cream should definitely rise to the top👍 The one major development over the past couple of decades that I really thought was going to be a total success for the RV industry was rubber roofing, and boy was I wrong because there are just as many or more issues with water damage than ever before, and there is no bigger problem or issue to resolve than that!
This is a nice trailer overall. It has a very useful comfortable layout. I clearly see why this is a popular layout. Lots of equipment and features on this one. Too much black on the inside for me however. I like warmer inside trim colors. This has to much cold sinister Batman/bat woman Gotham city darkness for me. Does Cherokee offer a fold up lower bunk option on this one? I have seen that feature offered on some other rear bunk units. That wood support in the middle of the bunk in the storage compartment just drives me nuts! I totally get why it’s there, but what a jarring in the way piece.
I really wanted the second bathroom entry but my bathroom has a floor to ceiling linen closet and it was an either or situation, had to opt for storage. Also wanted a couch but needed to stay under 30ft, always about the compromise. I do like the décor though, the plain jane brown is instantly dated to me and this was very modern.
Apologies - we aren't given specs on tv spaces from companies. You're always welcome to contact a member of our team & they can get hard measurements on the available space for you! bit.ly/3A7CXKb
Thanks for the detailed review. I would also like to see the window shade on the bathroom door as a standard item. The office conversion that you discussed would be very attractive to me as we have NO desire to have a bunkhouse model. Unfortunately I don't think we could make a camp queen bed work which is a pity because the travel access is VERY attractive.
Plenty of similar models either with true queens or at least room for one out there. One commenter indicated they slide the front wall forward to make room for a true queen. They advised it wasn't really hard but I've never done it and always recommend caution when making modifications
The need for the shade 8n the bathroom door, can anybody really going to be able to look into the bathroom if they are standing in the ground looking at the door.
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you. I don't camp where the neighbours can see into my site from their site. They would have to be standing on my site, why I have never understood your beef. And now I know "Where' the beef"... is.
No need for the window shade in the bathroom. For the person pooping it provides light and for everyone outside it becomes an entertainment center so they can see the funny look on your face when the constipation hits ya!
Kids in the Hall, but also a show with plenty of great quote opportunities "Isn't there something I can do to make money from the comfort of my home while watching tv on my couch?"
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Always like the videos that show the slide in. Very helpful for when we trade in our 26DJSE knowing what to add to our wish list. PBR light is a must have!
I've owned one since 19. Its awesome and held up very well. I moved wall with two slider doors in master, to allow for a full queens bed. Very easy to do and for a tall person makes a world of difference. I do like my 2 way fridge even though i loose out on space...
Oh wow.. didn’t know there was enough room to do that
Camp queen (and lack to change it) kills it for me. Btw, video was worth it just on knowing that major detail, The Kids in the Hall reference and the fact that you’re not on the crocs bandwagon. 👍🏻
Hahaha
Metal outdoor kitchen is the only way to go - no wood to get wet and warp.
Kids in the Hall!
Kids in the hall reference!
To this day I could hear that theme music and smile uncontrollably
A classic!!! Remember KIH Terrier song??
YEEEEEEA
Kids in the hall....... I got a cabbage for a head!!!
Nice trailer. Good points about a stick and tin construction. It has a lot of pluses with just a few minuses. Thanks.
Nice TT and great job on floor plan. Thanks for sharing Josh👍👍
You’re the best Ted. Ty!!
We have the 2021 version and the 2022 has done a few minor modifications obviously. That third brake light is a plus for sure. The ice maker while being the same manufacturer, seems to be different too. But all in all, a great 1st timer TT.
Ice makers have been a little different each time I've seen them come in. I think they're making sure they have a fully featured and functioning RV while not being "stuck" on specific appliances
"I'm crushing your head." -Beavis
Nice Laugh In reference with the head crushing.
Suggestion- include info on type of toilet. Porcelain/ceramic tend to be taller and better for tall and/or elderly.
That appears ot be a plastic toilet in this model. Easy mod to swap it out though, and I'm sure they could get it done at the dealer if it's a make or break thing for you.
The TT we bought 3 years ago came with a plastic toilet, swapped it out for a porcelain chair height one for around $100. and about 10 minutes work.
Good idea, i believe Rockwood and Flagstaff now do the porcelain toilets.
If Josh doesn’t mention the toilet then you definitely know it’s plastic. When any RV has a porcelain toilet he will always take the time to inform you😉
I like the camp kitchen better on my 2021, the burner layout and sink basin comes in handy. Otherwise this is a great camper! I would add that I originally bought this and pulled it with my 2009 1/2 ton, and it was ok but with a family of 5 and some luggage in the bed I was topping out my payload. The new 3/4 ton gasser I bought tows this thing like its a feather and I don't have to use sway bars anymore. Those drawers under the dinette are great! They need to fix the bunk privacy curtains though, the top curtain should go all the way across, with another curtain just for the bottom bunk. With kids in each they mess with each other when both curtains are in use as they are. Just a minor thing though. Great trailer, we love it! That quiet AC works great and the furnace/fireplace combo can more than roast us over night! I just wish they included the shade in at least the bathroom exterior door, if you turn the light on at night you can see right in from the outside without it. Oh yeah and that big bath fan will pull a vacuum on the trailer with a window not open! And yes, the pantry is so big we can store dry food, pots/pans, and some of the kids clothes for our weekend or long weekend trips. I'll add too those zebra blinds on the slide windows are great. At 6ft tall the short queen bed is ok, if I were any taller though it would probably be a deal breaker. The travel access with slide closed is also great! I will also add, I've hit 2 things with the trailer right now because of not paying attention to what I was doing. Stick and tin unit was easy to repair, if it were laminated I would have been screwed.
Have you had any issues with the outdoor camp kitchen burners warming/melting the knobs. I have a 2021 GreyWolf 26dbh. I purchased a wind guard and it helps, but it seems like the knobs are just to close in general.
@@raulcorona5608 I haven't had that problem, I've actually found them to be a bit weak. Couldn't boil a pot of water, but heats up small sides like beans ok
We have used our 2021 26dbh about 8 trips so far and love it. I agree about the outdoor kitchen, I like ‘21 better. Also agree about that bathroom fan! I literally sucks our vinyl floor up of there are no windows cracked open. They don’t glue the vinyl down anymore, only on the perimeter. Love our 26dbh. Recently added a slide out awning:)
On our 21 I feel like I'm gonna melt the fridge
How long is it with the hitch rack removed?
Same. Measured length is based on the bumper which doesn't change.
the housing unit is about 28' 7" best I can recall from the title.
I love the "Kids in the Hall" reference.
I need to go see if I can rewatch all those on a streaming platform somewhere. One of the best sketch comedy shows ever
Nice kids in the hall reference
30 Helens Agree
LMAO! Achievement unlocked! 10 points earned! lol Great camper ! Ty !!
:)
Good video as ALWAYS!
I appreciate that!
Mine few years old has more usb ports . The sunroof is awesome . Deff a loaded camper. Selling mine only to go bigger for passport 2950. If i dont sell i still will enjoy it.
that's a nice setup, really nice
Thanks
We had to decided between this and the Jayco 267. Ended up going with the Jayco.
What tipped the scaled for you?
@@JoshtheRVNerd They Jayco Frame seems a little more heavy duty and past problems with a Forest River product.
I'm still chuckling about your spider tag scare!
I cut those suckers down as soon as I see them now
@@JoshtheRVNerd I used to work in an old factory that had a pretty bad infestation of cellar spiders. It wasn't uncommon to have them drop down on you for a visit. I almost jumped off a scissor lift one time when I disturbed a bunch of them! 🤣
RV Antifreeze with or without alcohol? Will the alcohol hurt any of the seals/fittings?
If it says “RV/marine” antifreeze then you’re fine. Either works. Recommend the stuff that isn’t made with animal fat. Makes your lines stink when flushed
As far as adding capacity to the solar system ...would it be as easy as adding additional batteries and panels?
pretty much yeah. The wiring is all the proper gauge to handle 400-450ish watts of solar. You'd daisy chain the panels together. It's great you understand talking about solar is pointless without talking about batteries
a good ratio is 200amp hours of battery for 400w of solar. That's an awesome charging vs storage ratio
I've never liked that bedroom setup on any Floorplan that has it but the rest is nice, idk if its just me but having that one little bunk support in that rear storage area scares me lol, great unit overall👍👍
It’s not amazing but it keeps the RV shorter which has merits
This is probably our favorite floor plan and trailer, but the tongue weight is a bit of a killer. At over 700lbs dry you can easily blow past your payload capacity on a '1/2 ton' truck. We started to look at Keystone Bullet models because of the weight savings they offer.
This has a GVWR of 7700, and 5900 dry, from manufacturer.
I need this in my life...
I know some people that can help with that lol
Thanks for the video! Is the 2022 23dbh pretty much exactly the same except for the couch and larger pantry?
Yes and weirdly nearly the same size and cost. I have always felt this layout was the better buy
I have a 2007 Cherokee. Has 4 smaller bunks in back, and a very small bathroom a cross from the dinette. Makes for a tight squeeze. My wife and I often talk what it would be like to have a nice rear bath and a little more living space. Like a couples camper. We leave ours permanently parked at Twin Mills campground in Howe Indiana. Less than an hour from you. Maybe some Saturday, we'll drive up and visit your dealership.
We would love to meet you. That is such a nice camp ground down there. That’s a thousand trails place, isn’t it?
@@JoshtheRVNerd yes I believe so.
I seen this on your new Bish's website in Utah and wanted to get info and purchase from that location but nobody would return my calls. I ended up buying from another dealer unfortunately in a different state. Hopefully when I take to your Salt Lake location I get better service. The Trailer is great unit.
Randy I can only thank you for offering us the opportunity to earn your business and apologize for falling short. Can't fault you for purchasing elsewhere in that case. TY for sharing this. I'll get it to the location manager so they can see where things fell apart and hopefully learn from the experience.
Has anyone had any issues with the outdoor camp kitchen burners warming/melting the knobs? I have a 2021 GreyWolf 26dbh. I purchased a wind guard and it helps, but it seems like the knobs are just to close in general.
I've heard of a lot of concerns but never that one
And once again, no shade on the bathroom exterior door. What is the thinking on that?
Keep in mind that won’t likely change mid season
Hello I just purchased a hard wall 2021 black label which is pretty much the same as the trailer you have on here. I’m curious know what that charging port is on the right side of the queen bed. It has to copper prongs pointing out. I’m also having issues with connecting with the back up camera all it has is retry. Any ideas?
It’s this: m.th-cam.com/video/ezjkaxIlZig/w-d-xo.html
Come on Forest River, you’ ve got to do a better job of quality control. My 2021 was not quality checked , I fixed numerous issues!
Sorry to hear that. Hope you’ve been able to take it out for a few fun trips
My truck is 2022 1500 silverado 5.3 w/ 9200 and 920 hitch weight and payload 1883. Do you think this truck will pull this trailer?
Best I can say is "probably"
I can't offer anything more specific without a better idea of how many people you're hauling to make sure you don't cook that hitch/payload rating
@@JoshtheRVNerd 1 other person and 2 small dogs
What about a jayco 199mbs to the same pickup instead of a Cherokee
If you mean, it will pull 9200 lbs, you should be ok, unless you put a lot of other stuff in the truck. My Armada has no issues, and it can pull 8500 (at altitude)
Josh, what is the weight ratings of the bunks? Does Cherokee publish that?
Also, at 10:35, totally a Beavis and Butt Head reference.
We own this trailer, I believe its rated for 300lbs on each bunk if my memory is correct.
I wish that was part of the specs. That matters. And what kind of toilet. Lol. And slide drive type!
“Are you threatening me”
Cherokees have some very nice floorplans with some very nice features but they also have some very entry level features with the stick and tin build, a plastic toilet, a shower curtain, no ladder, no dinette drawer guides, camp queen mattresses, and no standard TV which most other manufacturers do provide?
Depends on the brand. In this class of stick and tin campers they're definitely right in the pocket matching up nicely with most.
If you compare them vs. many laminated RV then yeah -- those features feel lacking. These are also thousands less as a result.
Where cherokee does a great job I think is making sure everything is set up for you to make a few small tweaks to fit your preferences without needing any major rebuild work. Simple toilet swap and done.
And given their now #1 in the market overwhelming popularity it seems that plan is working!
@@JoshtheRVNerd I think the next 5 years of trade ins will tell us a whole lot about the quality control of every manufacturer over the past 18 months or so. The cream should definitely rise to the top👍 The one major development over the past couple of decades that I really thought was going to be a total success for the RV industry was rubber roofing, and boy was I wrong because there are just as many or more issues with water damage than ever before, and there is no bigger problem or issue to resolve than that!
I’d like to see/hear your opinion on the 28DT vs. the 26dbh
As I recall the 28dt is just their version of this one m.th-cam.com/video/m7W_C5DNV2I/w-d-xo.html
The only dealbreaker for me with the camp queen. Otherwise this thing is pretty nice
Fair enough! I can be a problem for people for sure
This is a nice trailer overall. It has a very useful comfortable layout. I clearly see why this is a popular layout. Lots of equipment and features on this one.
Too much black on the inside for me however. I like warmer inside trim colors. This has to much cold sinister Batman/bat woman Gotham city darkness for me.
Does Cherokee offer a fold up lower bunk option on this one? I have seen that feature offered on some other rear bunk units. That wood support in the middle of the bunk in the storage compartment just drives me nuts! I totally get why it’s there, but what a jarring in the way piece.
No folding bunk options. I like those though
I really wanted the second bathroom entry but my bathroom has a floor to ceiling linen closet and it was an either or situation, had to opt for storage. Also wanted a couch but needed to stay under 30ft, always about the compromise. I do like the décor though, the plain jane brown is instantly dated to me and this was very modern.
The door is nice but hard to beat storage. I likely would’ve made the same call
I like fresh air cross flow when sleeping so windows that open are preferable for me.
Not a fan of bathroom door & open window. The mini tub is nice.
The accessory shades that snap into the windows are cheap and easy to install, we put them in right away on ours.
Camp queen with no "walk around space" = deal buster.
That's why I point it out -- helping people make sure they have the right ones on their list!
Does anybody have any input on how this TT compares to the 2022 Jayco Jay Flight 264BHW? Thank you.
Obviously the slide is a massive point of consideration
This one also has a higher trim package with more equipment
🎶 There's a place in France 😆😆
Camp queen Boooooooo.
Thankfully we have plenty of other options available with bigger beds!
I wish they would make the table movable outside if needed.
Easily done. See here m.th-cam.com/video/WSzFpSE2e3k/w-d-xo.html
What size tv can i mount on ? 40 inch
Apologies - we aren't given specs on tv spaces from companies. You're always welcome to contact a member of our team & they can get hard measurements on the available space for you! bit.ly/3A7CXKb
Thanks for the detailed review. I would also like to see the window shade on the bathroom door as a standard item. The office conversion that you discussed would be very attractive to me as we have NO desire to have a bunkhouse model. Unfortunately I don't think we could make a camp queen bed work which is a pity because the travel access is VERY attractive.
Plenty of similar models either with true queens or at least room for one out there.
One commenter indicated they slide the front wall forward to make room for a true queen. They advised it wasn't really hard but I've never done it and always recommend caution when making modifications
Kids in the Hall
Yeeeeeeeessssss 🙌🏻
@@JoshtheRVNerd They are back on Hulu with new shows.
The need for the shade 8n the bathroom door, can anybody really going to be able to look into the bathroom if they are standing in the ground looking at the door.
Btw I have never been a fan of this lay out
Neighbor’s site could have windows into the bathroom. Plus if interior kit at night you can see in fairly easily
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you. I don't camp where the neighbours can see into my site from their site. They would have to be standing on my site, why I have never understood your beef. And now I know "Where' the beef"... is.
No need for the window shade in the bathroom. For the person pooping it provides light and for everyone outside it becomes an entertainment center so they can see the funny look on your face when the constipation hits ya!
Bruh hahaha
I'm OK with a camp queen as long as my calves, ankles and feet can hang over the edge. If it's that close to the wall, I'm out.
That’s why I point it out!! I get it :)
This is me being very picky, I don’t like the rims on it. That’s it!!!
Not bad then :)
👍
I'm pinching you face!
Beavis and Butthead?
Kids in the Hall, but also a show with plenty of great quote opportunities
"Isn't there something I can do to make money from the comfort of my home while watching tv on my couch?"
Fart Noises!!
Not gonna lie -- I giggled when I saw this.
@@JoshtheRVNerd I giggled when I typed it. Have a happy weekend
Entertainment position is terrible. Get rid of the bunks and dinnett Need bigger bathroom and bedroom where you can walk around the bed.