Is Protonmail Safe for Security and Privacy?

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  • Is Protonmail a safe email platform for security and privacy?
    This video explains the risks of emails in general and then discusses the specifics of Protonmail (which are the same as Tutanota, Startmail and other privacy email platforms). Are you in fact made safer by these platforms?
    Would Snowden or John McAfee use these email platforms? Let's find out.
    What is the safest email option?
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  • @robbraxmantech
    @robbraxmantech  4 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    I will dedicate the live stream this coming Friday 8pm Pacific to analyzing the many choices you can make with email. There are too many possibilities in email and it depends on how much risk you accept.

    • @doyou4133
      @doyou4133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi braxman, i have an offtopic question, long ago i'ved learned that Tor is nasa or i cannot recall, who is in charge with the tor encryption, and they track your traffic, any knowledge ?

    • @MICKYLEAKSMGR-PRESIDENTCJWORLD
      @MICKYLEAKSMGR-PRESIDENTCJWORLD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh thanks for the informational video again! Awesome as always!
      FYI For the Live video Don't feed the Trolls! Don't waste time Explaining Yourself! Just make sure to Inform people what method works for secure email. Like say Thunderbird with Encryption Spam Blocking Add-ons etc.
      That's exactly What People Need to Research and Know Right Now! So a walk through of the installation process what precautions to take what to add what not to add, how to encrypt even attachments and make the security as tight as possible and what protocol and ports to use and follow etc! That will be Highly Appreciated By all!
      Because Short Term Memory Loss or Empty Ego having people will not want to watch or jump out if too many confusing things said in a single 2-3+hour video! Again reminder "Don't Feed the Trolls" Different email encrypted messengers decentralized networks heck even Brax.me do videos how to secure Share create room/blog?! That way People will Know What is possible or not give inputs what's missing etc.
      Options maybe different live videos or normal half hour videos might be preferable to gain more reach as well as concentrate and retain single topic or program/option etc! And yeah I'm doing the maximum sharing liking everywhere I can, BTW views counts likes doesn't seem to show. They're reversing the clicks so Yeah keep that in mind too don't think people are not liking watching or sharing your videos!
      I have no problem with your/any long informative videos if thoroughly explains the process etc on how to go about things regarding any particular task, platform, tech, etc. Not good for anyone unaware to do guess work! Not following secure protocols is worse!
      But I know how the general audience who actually given your simple explanations should be the targeted audience spending time to know more, and I bet they see 2:30 3 hours means they'll split and might not spend time given limited technical knowhow!
      Though we forget that them not following what we do by correctly following instructions and information, understanding the concept, doing the secure settings, they not only put themselves but most importantly put our phones etc in grave danger!
      I'm Busy Grappling with Govt and Fake News Media because again put a Bunch of EVIDENCE audios call records of the FAKE news Media who got Business Account fake subscribers Manipulation of their VIDEOS Fake News into people's feeds recommended etc!
      So They're losing their Minds already! Ask Sundar Pitchai if he wants to come on a live Interview with You and Me! Oh we'll ask Snowden and Maybe Assange from Prison for NO COGNIZABLE federal offense yet Confined under No Grounds with information of Swiss Bank Details of Politicians Industrialists etc, and Yep Like Steven Segal from the Onion Movie I can BRAVELY STATE, "I don't think They Have The BALLS!
      Yep Listed in Courts Cases National&International for Death Penalty, Courts, Police DGP, Commissioner Police, Cybercrime and ZuckytheZucker owned Zuckbook and WhatsApp Yesterday Commissioner Caught double tick blue today FAKE NEWS Polimer Claimed NO MORE multiple forwards to keep rumours?🤔 Dafuq?! With their own Call records and How they Failed to Put the News! No forwards option for People claimed from zucking 290 to 276 to then 5 because you know only 1280+contacts, NOW claimed only 1 exactly after them who got cash business WhatsApp account free from politicians etc with TH-cam too caught Royally with time-line and proof when why and how and for what reason, they did get all these freebies and exposure too by aiding&abetting Criminals, I tell people forward the Undeniable Irrefutable EVIDENCE Facts and this BS Done Today by them!
      And most importantly, Illegitimate Govt FAKE EXTENSION of Lockdown till April End just like I predicted! That is Because Month of May is The Time the #PEDOGATE #POLITICALCOUP CORRUPT ILLEGITIMATE GOVTS SLAVE PUPPET KANGAROO BANANA COURTS Close down in MAY, and All joined together and involved in the Criminal Conspiracy, Panicking and Hopelessly Trying Hard by Hook or by Crook to Save Their A55es from Zucking Death Penalty or a Public SmashDown!
      PUBLIC HANGING&EXECUTION ORDERS filed like I said Union of India and Rest of the World, Contempt of Court&Humanity, So Failure of Courts Automatically Means Citizens Perform the Execution of Prosecuted Punishments for the Convicts regardless of Social Societal Legal Judicial Financial Governmental Standing/Status because Constitutional Civil&Human Rights Crimes&Violations Obstruction of Justice! So I will be Needing the Help of Security Experts Hackers etc to Catch the Illegal&Criminal Hacking done by Illegitimate Govts and Intel under Fake Secret Laws and FISA BS lists! They're Guilty so They Can Quite Frankly go Zuck Themselves for all I care!
      You keep them coming! If they mess with you switch over Lbry or start telecasts in Brax.me itself all the more zucking Secure than this Illegal&Criminal Censorship Shutting Down Channels Videos Hiding Critical Court Public EVIDENCE Videos Cabal Deep State Owned and Controlled Worthless Zucks People's Creative Intellectual Property humping money A-Holes!
      There comes a time when you just have to Say Zuck You, I Can't Bend Over Be a Slave when you Use My Content, Earned Through My Cases Went from CEO G00GL3 to A7pha8et at the Cost of A Baby's and REPRESENTATIVE of the People🇮🇳🌍LIVES!
      All join together and State,
      ZUCK YOU ZUCK&G00&73&Bez05&J@ck,
      WE REFUSE TO Be a PART ACCOMPLICES of Your PERVERSIONS and CRIMES & INJUSTICES we cannot and Will Not Silence the ABSOLUTE TRUTH FACTS&EVIDENCE!
      Where ever it is valued spend your time There Folks Stop Riding the Horse That Has Nails in its saddle and Stabbing Your Balls! It will be appreciated and more useful where the Truth and Critical Information Not Illegally&Criminally Censored Ghosted Shadow Banned Whatever!
      Truth Alone Triumphs!
      Justice Shall Prevail! Cheers and See You Around Soon Dear Fellow Citizens!

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      TOR is an open source platform with volunteer servers. So no, it cannot be controlled by the national zucking agency.. But it is true that some of the servers are nza. However, that doesn't mean they can identify you. Though I'm sure they're trying

    • @chadchampion6773
      @chadchampion6773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was wondering if you set up your email server on vps or on metal? If on metal is it in your own rack or are you renting space somewhere? I ask because I wanted to set up my own email server however it seems most vps options are really a bunch of containers living in the cloud which you don't really own and probably can't encrypt.

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      setting up your own server is the best option of all the bad options (since there is no good option). VPS or metal is fine. You control the credentials of the device.

  • @herrprepper2070
    @herrprepper2070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +477

    I dumped all of my google, facebook, firefox, etc. crap when they openly endorsed and utilized mass censorship.

    • @pepelapiu2004
      @pepelapiu2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Why did you dump Firefox?

    • @Peppymoke
      @Peppymoke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thedetective8150
      What shall I use instead? thank you

    • @cristitanase6130
      @cristitanase6130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@Peppymoke Brave is quite nice, also Opera if you're in a pinch.

    • @ralphjosephrjm326
      @ralphjosephrjm326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here.
      I even also dropped safari and switched to brave and opera but I feel like opera is safer than brave.

    • @cristitanase6130
      @cristitanase6130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@ralphjosephrjm326 Opera was always one step ahead of all other browsers. They invented "tabbed browsing", "undo close tabs" and the "quick dial" homepage.

  • @kreendurron
    @kreendurron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    I can't tell you enough how much I love that you have made up a new curse word "Zucking"

    • @leeh.1900
      @leeh.1900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I noticed that as well...Rob has made himself immortal by coming up with a Cursing Meme!

    • @meowcula
      @meowcula 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had a good cuckle at that too

    • @discardingsabot5898
      @discardingsabot5898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "you got zucked" or "jack boot dorsey"

    • @twong689
      @twong689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zucking. :}

    • @dixiedamelio8170
      @dixiedamelio8170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zigga

  • @MrSkinnyn71
    @MrSkinnyn71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Just When I thought I had a tiny grasp of knowledge before watching your channel makes me feel really stupid now. Your channel is imperative for everyday people.

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      I hope people realize the difference. I try to go deeper with my more advanced knowledge

    • @ferencszabo3504
      @ferencszabo3504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They will lure us in anyway! Just don't make it too easy for them!

    • @Theineluctable_SOME_CANT
      @Theineluctable_SOME_CANT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, Rob is pretty darned experienced. He's brilliant.
      And YES... there's much more to email than the average person would think.

    • @chuckcampbell3927
      @chuckcampbell3927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hey well said and Mr brax is so humble. He doesn't let his intelligence obscure his compassion for folks like me that wants and is trying to learn.

    • @twong689
      @twong689 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad I have been a law-abiding citizen. I would have been caught otherwise using email.

  • @Milosz_Ostrow
    @Milosz_Ostrow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Most people with whom I communicate on the Internet are technically not capable of setting up and maintaining secure channels of communication. Some of them may talk about privacy, but then turn around and spill their guts on Facebook, Twitter, and other social media. I think it is largely a lost cause.

    • @tribuneband1965
      @tribuneband1965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      like telling people masks are pointless

    • @eightywight
      @eightywight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fair point

    • @Papadoc1000
      @Papadoc1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      In some respects, I think that many people talk about privacy, only because it's fashionable, but will actively seek out convenience or a minute of distraction as a tradeoff to actual privacy. There was an experiment done about 5-6 years ago about what it takes for people to sell their privacy. Most of them would tell you to pound sand if you just ask them outright. But they willingly trade it for access to a fart sound app, angry birds, or a flashlight app. They also found that in reality, people would give away their most intimate secrets for $5 free dollars in a new account. The dirty little secret is that you just shouldn't remind them that's what they are doing, because that would be embarrassing.

    • @poetsrear
      @poetsrear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      If I'm radically honest, I think we live a time preceding a grand separation/divergence. Where people will be sorted out by their intentions, desires and level of consciousness.
      I don't think all "will make it", whatever it is, that's going to happen. But indisputably shit has started to happen and it's only accelerating.
      Such an era has been prophesied many millenia ago in various traditions. You may think what you may of those, but that doesn't change the fact that such things have been stated...

    • @blor8729
      @blor8729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tribuneband1965 masks aren’t pointless, I don’t like how the American government went against their own constitution, and there isn’t any feud from it

  • @medinarpinME
    @medinarpinME 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Time to ditch big techs.

  • @Sonu-tz2js
    @Sonu-tz2js 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I like protonmail. I like way it sounds - proton - positive charge.

    • @capnnukasun810
      @capnnukasun810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like tachyon mail. Because email from the future!

    • @zes3813
      @zes3813 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wrr

    • @soulextracter
      @soulextracter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@capnnukasun810 I like banana mail. It's bendy, and always to scale!

    • @doritomorito
      @doritomorito 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you prefer one car over another because of the colour of its paint?

  • @donaldduck5037
    @donaldduck5037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    I just don't want to support google

    • @UnframeofMind
      @UnframeofMind 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I'm with you! Lol. and Ironically, we're both here, using a google product to research alternatives.

    • @ChickensAndGardening
      @ChickensAndGardening 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@UnframeofMind Using the enemy's own weapons against him

    • @unclejj13er75
      @unclejj13er75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Boycotting google is a good first step. The internet turns out to be quite a treacherous place afterall.

    • @killertigergaming6762
      @killertigergaming6762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnframeofMind well yes use an adblocker

    • @codmiester
      @codmiester 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      over the past year ive switched to brave browser, signal messaging, protonmail for emails, duckduckgo for search engine due to the crazy censorship/propoganda of google, and data collection from social media

  • @ShirazBhutto
    @ShirazBhutto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I can’t believe I haven’t run into your channel earlier!!! These are some of the most informative videos I have seen on privacy and cyber security. Keep them coming, I’ll keep watching.

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Awesome! Thank you!

    • @NR-nf1il
      @NR-nf1il 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Me too. I just recently discovered him

    • @JUSTTHETRUTHTV
      @JUSTTHETRUTHTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robbraxmantech Thank you for letting us know!
      Thank you for letting us know!

    • @MegaToren
      @MegaToren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like you but a year late, Im also amazed I havent come across this channel until now. Makes one wonder.

    • @brentheavener7677
      @brentheavener7677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's right on! Rob, I sense you're a believer in Yeshua. Keep on towards intimacy with Him!

  • @brendanoakley7519
    @brendanoakley7519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Almost all modern MTA's use TLS for SMTP. The initial connection is plain text, but after STARTTLS the communication is in fact encrypted.

    • @justaguy-69
      @justaguy-69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      teeheee...lol

    • @16VScirockstar
      @16VScirockstar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Rob completely ignored that.

    • @user-le3vt7gb8k
      @user-le3vt7gb8k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was just about to come here to comment this

    • @doritomorito
      @doritomorito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly the point I'm raising with him, and with MTA-STS, it can be enforced not just requested.

  • @SMorrisRose
    @SMorrisRose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The strong implication here is that because SMTP wasn't built to support encryption, it isn't used between MTAs. It's true an unencrypted inter-MTA transfer is entirely compatible with SMTP. But we have had a number of standards since well before this video was recorded that make it practical for MTAs to not only use encryption but to require it from their peers. MTA-STS, with us since 2018, is one such. Of course, the existence of a standard doesn't do you any good if it's not used, but ProtonMail *does* use MTA-STS, and has since before this video was published. This seems like a tempest in a teapot, but ears open to how I'm wrong.

  • @rohitsharma66
    @rohitsharma66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Wow, mind blowing! I love your videos sir, and I'm a student and will pursue my career in cyberspace security after completing the School. The way you explain the issues, it's root cause and the solution, I'd never find on any channel.

  • @moonbastic
    @moonbastic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I am glad 52,000 people have watched this. We knew this intuitively in the early 90's, when I was on the forefront of PGP adoption, but half a decade later no one cared anymore. I think you've shown why we should still care.

    • @twong689
      @twong689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think why people don't care is because they are ordinary folks like you and me. The only t*rrorists are made-up.

    • @moonbastic
      @moonbastic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@twong689 Who said anything about terrorists? I'm not worried about terrorists. I'm worried about "ordinary folks" reading my emails. Or federal agencies. I was then, and I am now, which is why I hardly use email anymore. Encrypt everything.

    • @twong689
      @twong689 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moonbastic My point is the terrorists are false flags, inside job that aims to surveil everyone . Same goes with Covid for the vaccine. I am also concerned about emails.

    • @justaguy-69
      @justaguy-69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i thought everyone used tor and pgp...hmmm..i need to get out more

    • @Lichinha87
      @Lichinha87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about gpg? Same? Better?worse? In your opinion

  • @organichotdog3807
    @organichotdog3807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Use whatever email service you like and If you want privacy, encrypt your messages with PGP. The receiver will need to use PGP to decrypt your message.

  • @PowerUsr1
    @PowerUsr1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    As a network Engineer I have learned something that’s invaluable. Thank you

    • @yeayea8334
      @yeayea8334 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is great!
      I follow him from Europe!
      There are other TH-camrs like him?

    • @joshuapettus6973
      @joshuapettus6973 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure, you learned how email use to be done. Now, after the initial transaction email is encrypted in transition with a variation of TLS 1.2 called STARTTLS and has been for a long while. Most MTAs wont even accept unencrypted traffic. I really wonder why he left that important information out.

  • @jackkulinski8132
    @jackkulinski8132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Can't believe I just found your channel. The TH-cam algo has been good at hiding it.

    • @celinofj
      @celinofj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was on recommended videos for me :X

  • @denisr2235
    @denisr2235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you Bob for your help. Generally I now realise that outside of being majorly Tech savvy, there is next door to nothing we can do to keep out data private. I guess that except for receiving relatively innocuous stuff, stay off the email if you want to keep your thoughts private.

    • @libbydaddy8610
      @libbydaddy8610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We all talk too much anyhow. said the curmudgeon.

  • @aramayisorkusyan
    @aramayisorkusyan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    This man deserves millions of subscribers!

  • @franckbenarroch7838
    @franckbenarroch7838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dear MR. Braxman Ur absolutely awesom I'm just a regular dude from Quebec and I find privacy and security to be of utmost importance for the future of humanity and you deliver powerful messages accompanied by hi level education which you offer with amazing mastery do thank you my talents include voice over and logo art design etc in a basic but inspired way and should you ever need any help with these things I would be happy to help you free of charge as a thank you and exchange 🙏

  • @alik250
    @alik250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Sounds like email needs to be ditched altogether for a more secure messaging system!

    • @fishrr34
      @fishrr34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      yea, 2 tins and a string should do

    • @fishrr34
      @fishrr34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@c1dk1n pencil and paper mail. traditional mail lmaooo

    • @cowpoke02
      @cowpoke02 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@fishrr34 fbi looks at it now legally like brittish so we started the post office...

    • @cowpoke02
      @cowpoke02 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      pigeons carrier pigeons ,,, they can carry a bit as well ...; today lots falcons and eagles so got trouble there as well ...

    • @helmsscotta
      @helmsscotta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fishrr34 : I've had too many problems with the post office.

  • @RandyRandersonthefamous
    @RandyRandersonthefamous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for informing the public on these technical issues and how big business abuses our privacy. People joke that their phones are listening, but they wouldn't joke so easily if they really grasped how much of their data is being mined. You could see where they went anywhere for the past 5 years, and hear everything they said at every place they went!

    • @SleeplessinOC
      @SleeplessinOC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow and to think they probably have everything on you since you started using a cellphone . It blows my mind that they have been recording us both voice and video for years and years now through our cellphones and other smart devices since what , the late 90s?

  • @Stonefactor
    @Stonefactor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You Sir, are a gem 💎. I'm glad a came across your video. Shared.

  • @ralphjosephrjm326
    @ralphjosephrjm326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    If snowden made his own browser and emailing site... I'll definitely trust it more than any other out there.

    • @mat_tee
      @mat_tee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      But how do you know he is not actually working for "them" anymore? I was asking myself this question and ... I can say this that I know nothing about this guy. They even made a movie about him o_O Really? IDK...hmmm

    • @ralphjosephrjm326
      @ralphjosephrjm326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mat_tee I honestly don't surely know. But just by simply basing on the fact that he was the one who blew the whistle regarding the secrets of the government specially in the world of hacking, it made me trust him just a little bit more than google who's apparently controlling my search results.

    • @muffinspuffinsEE
      @muffinspuffinsEE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mat_tee Once --- always ---. Guess the letters.

  • @rubartknas7075
    @rubartknas7075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are the man. THX for sharing and clearly pointing out what's the state of the people's mailadress's. It helps a lot to get rid of some selfbetraying illusionary presumptions.

  • @joshuahaynes2573
    @joshuahaynes2573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have used proton mail and vpn for a long time and I love it

  • @rosecrystal3947
    @rosecrystal3947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! Never been so interested in learning. It's so informative. Thanks so much.

  • @surfviewgardens2396
    @surfviewgardens2396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video! Rob, you surely know your stuff. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

  • @threeharesmedia8958
    @threeharesmedia8958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Top-notch info. Thanks so much for your work -- it feels supremely relevant right now.

  • @xyphoidprocess
    @xyphoidprocess 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    After watching a couple of your videos, I'm thinking about giving up on trying to keep my privacy online. I thought I was doing well using different email providers for private stuff, Protonmail for shopping and Gmail for Google and social media accounts. Now I'm not so sure.

    • @lennyvlaminov9480
      @lennyvlaminov9480 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here. Or rather I've already thrown in the towel, don't have nor the time or the skills that it takes.

  • @ABC-rh7zc
    @ABC-rh7zc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You missed one thing about Protonmail - being based in Switzerland means that Swiss law applies and they have quite strong protection. Sure, a government can request information but Protonmail would be breaking Swiss law by providing the information unless there is a Swiss court order.

  • @ladyb648
    @ladyb648 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a very informative and skills that could benefit everyone on the planet. When I learned of Protonmail a year ago it was specifically told to me if I wanted my identity to stay anonymous you could only give to site that only ask for a email address and not my name, "NO KYC" now I see why they said that. Thanks Rob a new subscriber here and will sub your other channel as well.

  • @daltontaylor6184
    @daltontaylor6184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I already knew most of thos, but hearing you say it really puts in perspective of how open communication really is.

  • @davidk.1089
    @davidk.1089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is a little over my head but I'm very interested in this. Thanks for sparking my interest.

  • @danhamilton2193
    @danhamilton2193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, once again. I am not a tekke in any stretch of anyone's imagination and most of your lecture goes over my head. I do however, enjoy what ever I learn during my time listening.

  • @midnightAlchemist2023
    @midnightAlchemist2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just found your channel! I have much more to learn, thank you. :) Great content. Subscribed and hit that bell!

  • @davidrheuble2052
    @davidrheuble2052 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for providing this video demonstration of Encryption, Protonmail.

  • @dougfresh1341
    @dougfresh1341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    My Dad always said he wants to know how much that “free” is gonna cost him.
    That, and get me another beer.

    • @drivingschool11
      @drivingschool11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yep! Nothing's free!! Exactlly!!! Google has billions of Gmail accounts and who pays for the memory "space" and maintenance?
      I wonder what is the total amount of Gmail accounts Data on Planet Earth?
      Nothing's free...for sure.

    • @S8EJ3GD90
      @S8EJ3GD90 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clever

    • @progamerbufovi
      @progamerbufovi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@drivingschool11 except open source stuff

    • @russellpearce3749
      @russellpearce3749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just don't want anyone selling data based on my emails and I don't want ads. I pay 5 Euros a month for that I'm not worried about trying to hide anything from the government

  • @ZameR91
    @ZameR91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a very informative video. Thank you for it.

  • @gizgad567
    @gizgad567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great topic of discussion Rob. The topics you bring up are things I would like to to talk about one day on my channel. Thanks for your candid responses.

  • @mano52
    @mano52 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are the hero we needed, nobody ever said the truth except you, thank you from the very depth of my heart

  • @pauz9776
    @pauz9776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank so much, I got Proton and can't jump in and use it, I am 53 and a lay user. I am starting here to understand what I bought, for a year, thanks!!!

    • @klee9016
      @klee9016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @pauz
      I think you missed the point. It's not private as advertised

    • @justaguy-69
      @justaguy-69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No e mail system is secure or encrypted "end to end".. thats not allowed in any email protocols.
      There ia always a point where everything is in the clear in plan text.
      Pgp and gpg are ways of encrypting your actual text into gibberish and pasting it in ANY email and sending it.
      Your friend who receives the gibberish in his email can un-encrypt it back to plain text read it ,then respond to you the same way.
      But only you and he can read it or un-encrypt each others messages.
      You can post your key in public for anyone to use pgp to contact you.only you can read those.because its a "public key"
      Allowing you and everyone you know to trade keys with each other and talk securely.

    • @firefly6630
      @firefly6630 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justaguy-69 Should I use proton for banking and privacy ???

  • @hermitfool8119
    @hermitfool8119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for this explanation.

  • @nycrsny3406
    @nycrsny3406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really detailed and useful explanations, thanks!!!

  • @conservartes9385
    @conservartes9385 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to get some honest insight on e-mail. Thanks.

  • @aniwaniwawahine4233
    @aniwaniwawahine4233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thankyou for your very informative and generous information. I have been researching for years to try and find a "safe" email server. As Proton Mail is run by CERN, it is obviously not trustworthy. Now you clarify the risks. Sadly I'm no techy so your Braxme is probably out of my range.

    • @marilynmb.canada9680
      @marilynmb.canada9680 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I signed up for a free Proton account. I hated it. No one I knew signed up for it. I only put one contact in and after about 2 years I canceled it. So now I know it is not only an annoying platform but it is also not trustworthy.

  • @stevenjshedd
    @stevenjshedd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videos are excellent. After watching a bunch of your videos I feel like any attempt at privacy is useless. For one it's been more than 25 years on the web with no knowledge, understanding or idea that literally everything I have ever searched or sent is probably on a database somewhere. So now I'm thinking what's the point in even trying? Might as well be walking naked down main street.

  • @jamesmartinez7851
    @jamesmartinez7851 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    without a doubt one of the best and most informative channels

  • @palomarAI
    @palomarAI 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrific content, dropping gems on really important topics!

  • @zapjunkie
    @zapjunkie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    MTA to MTA encryption is possible on SMTP port 25 as long as both sides have valid certificates installed and both sides are configured to prefer or require TLS. Ask any sysadmin in healthcare. But, it only takes one side (MTA) not supporting TLS to switch the communication to plain text.

    • @doritomorito
      @doritomorito 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And with MTA-STS policy configured, the plain text communication would be forbidden. You'd lose connectivity with servers not supporting TLS.

  • @stardenver6905
    @stardenver6905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am so happy I found you and your channel. I checked out PM and it felt like most of their claims are just PR speech. The worlds strictest privacy laws? Not at all! Switzerland is tuning into surveillance state more and more. Even a state attorney once said, that PM hands out personal data to them, even without court orders.
    So I checked so many videos to get deeper into that topic. So many YTers claim to care about privacy and to check PMs privacy features. But all they do is to just repeat all their PR speech. Nobody is questioning anything. They all just repeat ProtonMails PR.
    I think its okay to use them, if you can afford that money (not a friend of their free tier) and you are looking for a reliable service, not selling your data. But once you relay on secure messages, don't use e-mail or encrypt yourself. But don't let any ISP handle your private keys and don't pay any of them to take care of something that should be done yourself. And to be honest.. you can use PGP/GPG with any provider. So no need to pay someone to do that for you.
    Thank you very much. You deserve much more subscribers. Greetings from Germany.

  • @Msjaniceelaine
    @Msjaniceelaine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know how I got here, but! I am glad I landed on your channel 🙂 New subscriber here, invaluable information. Thanks for sharing.

  • @johnbod
    @johnbod 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for breaking this down so well that even a novice like me could follow along.

  • @charlesjmouse
    @charlesjmouse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bugger! I moved from gmail to protonmail in the hope of improving my privacy. I was under no illusion that it would be significantly more secure, I just assumed my data wouldn't be automatically used/sold to the extent it would be with a gmail account. I never considered that what I was doing was flagging myself as someone to watch. *sigh*
    I had looked in to my own email server but even though I'm reasonably tech-savvy the pitfalls were too numerous to go for it. *sigh*

  • @mushenji
    @mushenji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    EMail is 100% Open and Insecure. It doesn't matter what provider you are using.

    • @drivingschool11
      @drivingschool11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% insecure? What you mean by that?
      The email service Provider reads my own emails or anyone can hack the email Service Provider?

    • @mushenji
      @mushenji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@drivingschool11 both

    • @drivingschool11
      @drivingschool11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mushenji
      I presume Gmail is...worst?

    • @mushenji
      @mushenji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@drivingschool11 Yes Gmail is the worst

    • @drivingschool11
      @drivingschool11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mushenji
      Do you or someone has evidences?
      I am not arguing but where are the proofs that Gmail is so bad?
      Or else? I think the competitors are trying to destroy Google without no evidences.
      Frankly speaking I use MetaGer and Startpage but I reckon Chrome is the best browser in the world to control cookies as long as we know the settings of privacy. My main email service provider is Yandex.

  • @derekgoodwine7509
    @derekgoodwine7509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best video I have ever seen on email thank you sir and keep it up

  • @VaultBoy1776
    @VaultBoy1776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my. Massive user error. I think I need to watch Tron again after watching this video.
    Thank you, I'm hooked.

  • @soldierz18
    @soldierz18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the advice. Not a computer nerd, but I was planning to buy a ProtonMail subscription and decided not to after this video.

  • @MrBikboi
    @MrBikboi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Email is always going to be inherently not as secure good video once again thanks

  • @llll3452
    @llll3452 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the good information.
    one observation though, I believe creating a Gmail address forces you to enter a cell phone number where proton mail does not ask for one, hence a bit easier to create

  • @waltwhite1646
    @waltwhite1646 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    another nice video Rob ! ... I have been trying Protonmail for 6 months now - works pretty good and blocks 90% of spam mail (my yahoo mail lets in 90% of spam mail ! ... I will go for the email provider that can STOP ALL SPAM mail (I'm tired of trying to block (unsubscribe) spam for the first 30 minutes on my mail ! 🤮

  • @gamingcollection270
    @gamingcollection270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I never thought of this. I'm happy customer of ProtonMail. Never would have thought that it could be a governmental company.

    • @ashleynoelle7429
      @ashleynoelle7429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course! The possibility of counter-intelligence is very high. It’s like this guy is reading my mind.

    • @ashleynoelle7429
      @ashleynoelle7429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You all need to research the CLOUD ACT.

    • @filipetorchiamiranda
      @filipetorchiamiranda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ashleynoelle7429 basically, there is no privacy ....

    • @maxcontreras2510
      @maxcontreras2510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@filipetorchiamiranda Not if you own and control all the tech with in a network and have no one know that it exists.

    • @gamingcollection270
      @gamingcollection270 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jayavarman5th Definitely ProtonMail, I'm a happy customer of them.

  • @pablo-bd3xu
    @pablo-bd3xu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thanks for putting this together. A question - is Protonmail's web interface any more or less secure than a local email client like Thunderbird?

  • @JUSTTHETRUTHTV
    @JUSTTHETRUTHTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for letting us know!

  • @oki1966
    @oki1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the great explanations on your email account options. Excellent

  • @rbrock00
    @rbrock00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Rob Braxman... What a great presentation. After hearing this, however, I now want to quit using email entirely. Is there a safer alternative? Keep up the good work.

    • @hellomiakoda3782
      @hellomiakoda3782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think of email like my postal mail box. Sure, send me those forms to fill out. Talk to me about my broken TV, or my order for replacement laptop parts. It's not something I'd send private info over, and don't email me about next week's protest or anything like that.
      I'm not on the level of this guy, so if he says otherwise somewhere I haven't heard yet, please listen to him and not me - You can mitigate the problem with email by encrypting your attachments - the file itself, before it's attached.

  • @livinginwilderness7913
    @livinginwilderness7913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rob, awesome explanation as always. Thank you! Are docs stored on the cloud encrypted?

    • @NR-nf1il
      @NR-nf1il 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good question. I would love to know the answer. If they are reading my online storage than they're going to be disappointed cuz there's nothing of any kind of private sensitive information there

  • @zorro2028
    @zorro2028 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sehr gut. Sie sind ein Profi. Danke

  • @johnmcentegart8537
    @johnmcentegart8537 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent and clearly presented.

  • @mr.trombley4321
    @mr.trombley4321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    SMTP to SMTP server transmission (or transfer) is predominantly opportunistic TLS and rarely ever unencrypted. Normally they use some form TLS 1.2 cryptographic cipher and you can see this in the P2 message header you were mentioning in your video

    • @JoeyDee86
      @JoeyDee86 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wish more people saw this. Nowadays between MTA’s, almost everything is encrypted via TLS except for the metadata needed for routing (because it can’t be, or it won’t work).

  • @bdvl3594
    @bdvl3594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shit man this is very stunning. Nice share

  • @alwadud0196
    @alwadud0196 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation, you the max brax!

  • @mbahmarijan789
    @mbahmarijan789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are rock Man!! God bless you. God Bless Snowden

  • @keco185
    @keco185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm mostly just concerned about people like google reading my email for targeted ads.

  • @DominickWalenczak
    @DominickWalenczak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Actually, you can transmit medical information via e-mail. It comes with certain caveats, however. The e-mail provider must have a "business associate" agreement for HIPAA purposes set up with the covered entity. Gmail offers this with a few button clicks. It can then only be transmitted via servers that support TLS security at the exchange level. For servers where this is not supported, Google will e-mail a link to the recipient informing them that there is a secure message waiting for them and prompting them to sign in. E-mail can be used for HPI by a covered entity. It's just a bit more of a pain in the butt.

    • @jannwilkins5631
      @jannwilkins5631 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do not do any banking or medical info on line. Call me old fashion butI trust no one

  • @SecondsOfMine
    @SecondsOfMine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Keep it rocking!

  • @sergiorelvas
    @sergiorelvas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much, very important information and better educated to understand.

  • @infopackrat
    @infopackrat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Except William Barr wants to ban end to end encryption. I've been watching this fight since the V chip in the 90's. And I wanted to give 2 likes. Good job.

  • @HeroinBobuk
    @HeroinBobuk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    whilst this is informative, I don't get the high praise comments. It's still far more secure that most other email platforms. But as in the video quite rightly mentioned, if you email a gmail account without encrypting the mail, google will scan it.

  • @mbr1056646
    @mbr1056646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this video very much. Thank you

  • @leanderperera8467
    @leanderperera8467 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video and explanation of all the concepts. It sure beats the marketing hype we get from "secure" email providers.

  • @deafno
    @deafno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think I learned that MTA to MTA aspect of e-mails in CCNA courses and knew e-mail is inherently insecure, but over time when using HTTPS web clients I developed false sense of security when using e-mails. Your video made it clear that e-mails are not to be trusted for private communication for once and for all.

    • @robbraxmantech
      @robbraxmantech  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly

    • @sergiomazariego_
      @sergiomazariego_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What course did you take and where can i find it?

    • @christopherhoy592
      @christopherhoy592 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@sergiomazariego_ I guess @deafno hasn't seen your request...
      Essentially, Rob is making the course here in data privacy for us! Here on Rob Braxman's channel - (if you can tease TH-cam into showing it to you) if you start from when Rob first got onto TH-cam (about a year ago) there's a whole course on protecting your personal data privacy for regular folks like us that Rob has made in his "shorts." All the little videos Rob Braxman has made (that are 10 min to half hour lengths) are pretty interesting...
      I've only seen a minuscule amount so far, but Rob - you're a very easy-to follow practical teacher. What makes me say that is: you keep track of what you've already taught us so we don't have to figure out what new terms that you drop on us without explaining them. Very smart teaching!

  • @r.j.4950
    @r.j.4950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don`t have much faith in any of them but as far as Proton mail is concerned, if you sign up and it requires a text message if you use the same phone number more than once it will state that this number is already in use so they are lying when they say they don`t maintain any logs etc. as far as accessing any email i can`t say unless some one comes forward with the information required.

  • @shoyugod
    @shoyugod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This deserves to be viral

  • @opensourcedev22
    @opensourcedev22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy..... listen to this guy my friends. I give this lecture 9/10 for value. 1 point deducted for being too low level for 'normal folk' but I understand why it was necessary.
    I get asked : "is it safe to send username and password in one e-mail to a user?"
    The only correct rebuttal to that question is to ask this person to ask them to STOP and read up on secuy first

  • @a88pockets
    @a88pockets 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    your style of presenting information reminds me Michio Kaku, the futurist.

  • @cristitanase6130
    @cristitanase6130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Is it better than gMail?
    Are they datamining your e-mail messages and sell the data to third parties?
    If not then they are great.
    Everything else is bs.

    • @AB-yt4hd
      @AB-yt4hd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is why I use Protonmail.
      Before Protonmail, I had my own server but was hacked by spammers even if I was very careful (probably a configuration error of Postfix). As I didn't know how I was hacked, and then unable to fix the hole, I moved to Protonmail.
      Also Protonmail is very clear that emails in interdomain can be read. They talk also about the problem of meta-data. They don't hide it and warn their users.
      They know that it is not possible to be 100% secure with emails as you still have to exchange messages with other platforms and they warn you about this and give you tips about it (like using gpg if you can and avoid interdomain emails as much as possible).

  • @Norm475
    @Norm475 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative. Thank you.

  • @yo1414
    @yo1414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative - thank you!

  • @markarca6360
    @markarca6360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    It became popular because of the TV series "Mr. Robot".

    • @conradgallardo9046
      @conradgallardo9046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I never heard of that series

    • @SmRTSkL
      @SmRTSkL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I only saw the first season and never noticed it on there...but i used protonmail for stuff like banking and stuff but i don't do anything nefarious to want email anonymity...if i want to send something secret to someone i encrypt it first then send it...but i rarely have to do that..

    • @lb7068
      @lb7068 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dont think so. I've Proton since it was first started in the early '00. Had a Beta account but really haven't used it that much until lately, trying to get away from the prying eyes of Google and Yahoo. But I guess in the real world, there is no such thing.

    • @xcyted4now
      @xcyted4now 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lb7068 there is, it just requires you to dump your electronic life.

  • @ahsanbulbul8512
    @ahsanbulbul8512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey bro, can you please make a video suggesting and reviewing some of the well known cloud services and their security levels? Specially on MEGA.

    • @thebandit9982
      @thebandit9982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mega will 100% tell law enforcment. I've seen a lot of megas with the message saying "the account is closed and all info and content has been handed over to law enforcment"

    • @ahsanbulbul8512
      @ahsanbulbul8512 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thebandit9982 😳
      How I'm supposed to live? Is there even any secure cloud for free?😂

  • @yooperlooper
    @yooperlooper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! I learned so much - so glad I found this, I'm looking for a new email provider

  • @kmonyt
    @kmonyt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. I've run my own mail server for a long time. It is not for the technical illiterate or easily frustrated. While maybe you touch on this point in other videos, just because some traffic is unencrypted doesn't mean that the attacker necessarily has access to it. Yes, you should assume they do. Yes, there are lots of vectors. But things aren't as bad as they used to be, monitoring local switched LAN traffic is not the same as sniffing a shared bus, for instance. The parties involved would have to be complicit, like ISPs providing access to it on either end, or high speed interconnects being watched. If we're saying that bulk email collection is happening even nationwide, beyond just metadata, then storage, indexing, and search becomes a real issue. I'm just saying that raising the bar of your understanding, general opsec, and taking some precautions goes a long way in thwarting practical attacks. In general, if you piss off an unlimited budget attacker, you've got problems beyond SMTP being unencrypted by default.

  • @ferencszabo3504
    @ferencszabo3504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They main reasoning is : Well, if you don't have anything to hide Gmail is fine! It's ain't nobody's business what do I've to hide or not!

  • @davidstorm4907
    @davidstorm4907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great info, keep up the good work!

  • @ryansanderson7023
    @ryansanderson7023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great video. wow. Good information.

  • @peterandrade4313
    @peterandrade4313 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative and well presented..

  • @tumblebugspace
    @tumblebugspace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It looks like pencil or pen and paper in the snail mail is probably the most secure now!

  • @Duc_hunter
    @Duc_hunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amazing insight. Would you recommend any literature on building email server?

    • @withoutcommentary-kh6rx
      @withoutcommentary-kh6rx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its easy just get a 2.50 to 5 dollar a month vps and use mail in a box. You might have to contact them to open up port 25 before you do so... but it will be free once you have the vps

  • @99jeepxjguy97
    @99jeepxjguy97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who could we be talking about in the U.S. State department?
    Thank you soooo much. I do appreciate your work. Very important for everyone to know.

  • @nonespike
    @nonespike 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great understandable explanations where the problems is with emails. Thank you very much. And if I understand it right, the only benefit from protonmail, besides inter domain communication, is that they encrypt your mailbox and can't read it as long as you don't send it to an other domain?
    So if I could encrypt my Gmail mailbox it would be a much cheaper version of Protonmail :-)