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@@shocko77 I'd love that! Can do pretty much any byrds song from the first two albums, since I have the Tennessean and Rick 12 :) Crosby moved to a Country Gent on the 3rd record
Having played Ricks for 30+ years -- and owning a '58, '60, '65, 68, '87, a recent 1993+, and a Rose Morris 1997 reissue from right before the scatterwound era -- what you call the "hot toaster" is my favorite Rickenbacker pickup. Caveat -- only one of those is a 12 string, and it has scatterwounds. It's lovely. For a 6, though, it's not close for me.
I think the scatter wounds sound a little “acoustic” - a bit more resonant with some nice string separation. They’re also brighter without being too trebly
Thank you so very much for the excellent excellent information. I have the vintage scatteround pickups in my 1979 Rickenbacker 325. I love them they sound amazing. I bought my 1979 Rickenbacker in January 1981. It came with 3 Hi Gains pickups. In 2012, I had replaced the Hi gains to vintage scatteround toaster top pickups, along with the accent vibrato tailpiece and the KK knobs. I gave the guitar another 33 years of playing life to it. I had bought the guitar used. It was already road worn in, who ever had it before me didn’t give it the love and affection that I have given the guitar, even though I didn’t play the guitar for 23 years. It’s been my baby since 2012 when I had alot work done to it. I modified it to look exactly like Lennon’s 1964 Rickenbacker 325. The Rickenbacker 325 I always wanted. I remember how excited I was when I bought it in 1981. I was super excited when it was modified in 2012. Love your videos- especially the 1964 Rickenbacker 325 video. Love the sound of your toaster tops in the guitar. Are they scatteround pups or the hot toaster pups in the guitar? They sound great through your Vox AC-30 TB. Hope to see you do videos on your Vox AC-30 TB and Fender amps.
Thanks! Glad this info is helpful. I think you might be thinking of wrong TH-camr because I don’t have a 325 or a vox amp. I’m hoping to get an ac30 soon though
I’m a little late to the party here, but the scatterwound are so clear. You can pear every string individually. Neither sound bad, but the scatterwound definitely win head to head.
Great Video . I have the 6 string V64 with hot toasters . The cleans are beautiful but when driven with overdrive or gain is where these shine . The snarl that cuts through any mix is like nothing you will ever hear .
Thanks for the informative video. I got a 360/12C63 early last year, and I can’t get enough of it. I love your One After 909 cover, by the way! I’ve just got my hands on a rosewood tele which sounds phenomenal now I’ve set it up and raised the pickups a little. Subscribed!
@@sampopkin I’m not sure if I can send a photo on here, but it’s a custom one with ‘64 gray bottoms in it. I play it through an AC30C2X at present, but would love a sliverface twin reverb at some point.
Wow excellent excellent- the scatteround pups sound warmer. The hot toasters sound great . Love your shirt in the hot toasters video. Where did you get the shirt from? Excellent excellent video Thank you so very much for the excellent excellent information, the toaster top pups. Didn’t know that there were two different types of the toaster top pups.
They actually sound quite different to me. Like, very different. The scatterwound have quite a bit more clarity and string separation. The top end can arguably get a little much at times, but pretty easily addressed by the tone knobs.
@@sampopkin I've never owned any "hot toasters," but I've had various windings of Hi-Gains, HB-1s, and two different toasters over the years. Right now, my main Ric (a 620) has toasters from The Creamery, namely their "Mid-'63" set, which clocks in about 7.4k at the neck and 8.7k at the bridge, and sounds great. Still, I've been wondering what a set with slightly higher winding would sound like. I was hoping to like these "hot toasters" better here. I'm playing 6-strings, though, so not a direct comparison. Thanks so much for doing this comparison! Would also be interesting to see some stock Hi-Gains compared in a 12-string.
@@theothermarkwilliams creamery make great pickups! Jealous of your 620. I’ve read that hot toasters sound better with 6 string guitar. Could be cool! Thanks for your kind words
I have a 360/12V64 that had the hotter pickups. What I did was unwind the pickups to 7.4k ohms which is what the 60s specs were . I also added a .0047 uf tone cap in the treble circuit. It sounds killer.
I’ve owned a few vintage Rickies, and the pickup winding does vary. My fav set are in a model 450 from 1959: neck at ~6.5KOhms; bridge at ~9KOhms with a low-cut capacitor giving it more jangle. The neck & bridge outputs at full volume are well balanced compared to most Rics.
That’s super interesting. I’ve googled a lot about vintage rick windings and it’s nice to hear real life numbers. They seemed to be all over the place output wise?
@@sampopkin The vintage toaster pickups I’ve had have been in the 7-7.5K range aside from the 450. But I’ve heard & read from Ric owner/collector folks that there are plenty of outliers, especially in the 1950s.
I wonder if the Flat-wounds accentuate the difference more? I still have rounds on my V64 and its a very bright guitar when the two pickups are used together.
Great point. I think either way you'd hear a difference but rounds would probably work best with hot toasters, and flats with scatterwound. You should check out my video I did on flats vs rounds with the scatterwounds. Thanks!
I just ordered a set of Gemini 63 wind toaster pickups. They're scatter-wound with the bridge around 7.4 k ohms and the neck at 7 k ohms. Not sure what the original Ric toasters were. I heard they were all over the place in power ratings though.
It doesn't matter what the pickups are! Rickenbacker rules! The best 12 string guitar ever. I'm listening to Mike Nesmith and his special 12-string Gretsch. I don't hear that sound!. works more like a six string guitar!
I think your best bet is on eBay or reverb searching 1980’s or 1990’s toaster pickups. Gemini, creamery and some other pickup makers mostly focus on the scatterwound low output spec (I think)
Scatterwound by a million miles. The hot toasters are nice enough but they're kinda 2 dimensional and have this slight boxiness to them. The scatterwounds sound more "3D," more clear and pleasant, sweeter and more alive.
Congratulations you have 2 great guitars for me the scatter wound is good as the original sound my first guitar was a Rickenbacker it was supposed to be the John Lennon model 330 I was told but it’s too small for my big frame sorry I ended up having to trade it out long ago
Rickenbackers are such cool guitars. I just have the one 360/12 and am glad I put the scatterwounds in. I agree the small scale ones are strange to play
Yeah sort of. It tames the low end a little bit but you lose some of the attack when you roll volume down. I keep reading hot toasters work best for 6 string, scatterwound for 12
@@sampopkin Well that's interesting. The manufacturer sold them as v63 presumably on the grounds that CM107 was built in December of that year.. I'm an owner too by the way.
Yeah it’s pretty subtle on the recording- best to listen on headphones. In the room though the hot toasters had a lot more bass. Scatterwounds are tighter in the low end and remove some muddiness
It doesn't matter what the pickups are! Rickenbacker rules! The best 12 string guitar ever. I'm listening to Mike Nesmith and his special 12-string Gretsch. I don't hear that sound!. works more like a six string guitar!
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Hey everybody! Please like and subscribe. And comment below what other Rickenbacker related videos you’d like to see! Beatles covers? With compressor pedal? :)
I think that turn turn turn by the byrds would be an amazing song to see in your format
@@shocko77 I'd love that! Can do pretty much any byrds song from the first two albums, since I have the Tennessean and Rick 12 :) Crosby moved to a Country Gent on the 3rd record
Scatterwounds, by a mile. They have a sweeter tone with more "shimmer".
Having played Ricks for 30+ years -- and owning a '58, '60, '65, 68, '87, a recent 1993+, and a Rose Morris 1997 reissue from right before the scatterwound era -- what you call the "hot toaster" is my favorite Rickenbacker pickup. Caveat -- only one of those is a 12 string, and it has scatterwounds. It's lovely. For a 6, though, it's not close for me.
That’s quite a collection!
I think the scatter wounds sound a little “acoustic” - a bit more resonant with some nice string separation. They’re also brighter without being too trebly
Thank you so very much for the excellent excellent information.
I have the vintage scatteround pickups in my 1979 Rickenbacker 325. I love them they sound amazing. I bought my 1979 Rickenbacker in January 1981. It came with 3 Hi Gains pickups. In 2012, I had replaced the Hi gains to vintage scatteround toaster top pickups, along with the accent vibrato tailpiece and the KK knobs. I gave the guitar another 33 years of playing life to it. I had bought the guitar used. It was already road worn in, who ever had it before me didn’t give it the love and affection that I have given the guitar, even though I didn’t play the guitar for 23 years. It’s been my baby since 2012 when I had alot work done to it. I modified it to look exactly like Lennon’s 1964 Rickenbacker 325. The Rickenbacker 325 I always wanted. I remember how excited I was when I bought it in 1981. I was super excited when it was modified in 2012.
Love your videos- especially the 1964 Rickenbacker 325 video. Love the sound of your toaster tops in the guitar.
Are they scatteround pups or the hot toaster pups in the guitar? They sound great through your Vox AC-30 TB.
Hope to see you do videos on your Vox AC-30 TB and Fender amps.
Thanks! Glad this info is helpful. I think you might be thinking of wrong TH-camr because I don’t have a 325 or a vox amp. I’m hoping to get an ac30 soon though
The scatter wound sound amazing to me. Wow!
If I need it someone !!! Bravo
I like the scatter wounds a little more. Great playing!
I’m a little late to the party here, but the scatterwound are so clear. You can pear every string individually. Neither sound bad, but the scatterwound definitely win head to head.
Never too late to the rickenbacker party! I couldn’t agree more about the scatterwounds. Thanks for joining in
Great Video . I have the 6 string V64 with hot toasters . The cleans are beautiful but when driven with overdrive or gain is where these shine . The snarl that cuts through any mix is like nothing you will ever hear .
Nice! I’d love to try the 6 string v64 someday. They were really making some great guitars in the 90’s
Thanks for the informative video. I got a 360/12C63 early last year, and I can’t get enough of it. I love your One After 909 cover, by the way! I’ve just got my hands on a rosewood tele which sounds phenomenal now I’ve set it up and raised the pickups a little.
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Wow rosewood tele?? I’m always wishing I had one when I record let it be songs. Congrats! Which version of the rosewood tele is it
@@sampopkin I’m not sure if I can send a photo on here, but it’s a custom one with ‘64 gray bottoms in it. I play it through an AC30C2X at present, but would love a sliverface twin reverb at some point.
Wow excellent excellent- the scatteround pups sound warmer. The hot toasters sound great . Love your shirt in the hot toasters video. Where did you get the shirt from?
Excellent excellent video
Thank you so very much for the excellent excellent information, the toaster top pups. Didn’t know that there were two different types of the toaster top pups.
Thanks! Can’t remember where I got the shirt
The scatter wounds are much warmer , and sound more like George
They actually sound quite different to me. Like, very different. The scatterwound have quite a bit more clarity and string separation. The top end can arguably get a little much at times, but pretty easily addressed by the tone knobs.
100%. I’m using my brightest amp here too. So I found that the hot toasters sounded like they had a blanket over them into my other amps especially
@@sampopkin I've never owned any "hot toasters," but I've had various windings of Hi-Gains, HB-1s, and two different toasters over the years. Right now, my main Ric (a 620) has toasters from The Creamery, namely their "Mid-'63" set, which clocks in about 7.4k at the neck and 8.7k at the bridge, and sounds great. Still, I've been wondering what a set with slightly higher winding would sound like. I was hoping to like these "hot toasters" better here. I'm playing 6-strings, though, so not a direct comparison.
Thanks so much for doing this comparison! Would also be interesting to see some stock Hi-Gains compared in a 12-string.
@@theothermarkwilliams creamery make great pickups! Jealous of your 620. I’ve read that hot toasters sound better with 6 string guitar. Could be cool! Thanks for your kind words
I have a 360/12V64 that had the hotter pickups. What I did was unwind the pickups to 7.4k ohms which is what the 60s specs were . I also added a .0047 uf tone cap in the treble circuit. It sounds killer.
I should try the tone cap replacement! Nice to hear you had good results with the under-winding thing
I’ve owned a few vintage Rickies, and the pickup winding does vary. My fav set are in a model 450 from 1959: neck at ~6.5KOhms; bridge at ~9KOhms with a low-cut capacitor giving it more jangle. The neck & bridge outputs at full volume are well balanced compared to most Rics.
That’s super interesting. I’ve googled a lot about vintage rick windings and it’s nice to hear real life numbers. They seemed to be all over the place output wise?
@@sampopkin The vintage toaster pickups I’ve had have been in the 7-7.5K range aside from the 450. But I’ve heard & read from Ric owner/collector folks that there are plenty of outliers, especially in the 1950s.
I wonder if the Flat-wounds accentuate the difference more? I still have rounds on my V64 and its a very bright guitar when the two pickups are used together.
Great point. I think either way you'd hear a difference but rounds would probably work best with hot toasters, and flats with scatterwound. You should check out my video I did on flats vs rounds with the scatterwounds. Thanks!
If Ric made reverse wound, reverse polarity scatterwounds, they would sell like hotcakes
That riff from beach boys dance dance dance...zestaaay!..either pickup...
I just ordered a set of Gemini 63 wind toaster pickups. They're scatter-wound with the bridge around 7.4 k ohms and the neck at 7 k ohms. Not sure what the original Ric toasters were. I heard they were all over the place in power ratings though.
I’ve heard great things about Gemini. Those ratings are really close to mine. I’ve heard the originals were anywhere from 5 kohms to like 12
And how many GRAVEL SCRATCHES do you now have on the back of that C64?
Is this a reference to my instagram pictures lol
It doesn't matter what the pickups are! Rickenbacker rules! The best 12 string guitar ever. I'm listening to Mike Nesmith and his special 12-string Gretsch. I don't hear that sound!. works more like a six string guitar!
Sorry I’m late but where can you get hot toaster pickups for a 330 ?
I think your best bet is on eBay or reverb searching 1980’s or 1990’s toaster pickups. Gemini, creamery and some other pickup makers mostly focus on the scatterwound low output spec (I think)
@@sampopkin cool thank you I’ll try to see if I can find any
Scatterwound by a million miles. The hot toasters are nice enough but they're kinda 2 dimensional and have this slight boxiness to them. The scatterwounds sound more "3D," more clear and pleasant, sweeter and more alive.
Congratulations you have 2 great guitars for me the scatter wound is good as the original sound my first guitar was a Rickenbacker it was supposed to be the John Lennon model 330 I was told but it’s too small for my big frame sorry I ended up having to trade it out long ago
Rickenbackers are such cool guitars. I just have the one 360/12 and am glad I put the scatterwounds in. I agree the small scale ones are strange to play
Scatterwound for the win.
Very good guitar player
I have the hot ones I don't like them where can I find the clearer scatter wound set with all the screws in them
I think I got mine from Alto Music. You can probably find them on Reverb, or the rickenbacker website
@@sampopkin thank you
Scatterwounds are definitely more musical
Gotta use a compressor and treble boost thru a Vox ac30. That what I use for my 1993 plus
Nice rig! I need a vox. Have a compressor but thought this shootout should be neutral
Jangle Box sounds great with a Vox or a Princeton reverb.
scatterwound all the way !!
We're talking about kOhms here.
Thank you! Good to clear that up, I have limited tech knowledge
I noticed that the hot toasters play more in tune.
Haha. That’s just me. This guitar was hard to keep in tune
Scaterwood is “if i need someone “
I’ll take the hot toasters, I’m sure if you where to roll the volume down just a little,it would probably sound like the scatter wound?
Yeah sort of. It tames the low end a little bit but you lose some of the attack when you roll volume down. I keep reading hot toasters work best for 6 string, scatterwound for 12
It's a Rickenbacker 360/12v63. It's the 325 that's '64' as in 325v64.
Technically mine is a v64. Even though it’s based on a 63
@@sampopkin Well that's interesting. The manufacturer sold them as v63 presumably on the grounds that CM107 was built in December of that year.. I'm an owner too by the way.
@@chrisst8922 what year is yours?
@@sampopkin 2001.
@@chrisst8922 yeah as far as I know the V64 ran from 1985-2000. The C63 started around 2000-2001. Yours might be a c63
I lean towards the hot pickups but there isn't much of a difference that I can tell.
Yeah it’s pretty subtle on the recording- best to listen on headphones. In the room though the hot toasters had a lot more bass. Scatterwounds are tighter in the low end and remove some muddiness
Use a compressor to get the geoege sound. Nice guitar and pyramids.
One set sounds better on the Beatles' riffs ....the other on the less familiar ones
Hey Sam, where did you get your scatterwound toaster pickups. I need to change mine out on my 660/12
Thanks
Alto music
Scatter wounds sound better to me.
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Cleans way better scatter overdriven way better hot
10 to 11 k ohms
the hot sound better.
"backer" not "bocker"
Sorry! It’s a bad habit
Is it tomato or tomato?
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It doesn't matter what the pickups are! Rickenbacker rules! The best 12 string guitar ever. I'm listening to Mike Nesmith and his special 12-string Gretsch. I don't hear that sound!. works more like a six string guitar!