I like the fact that Suunto builds for sustainability. The S9 is still receiving new features and upgrades 5 years after launch in 2018 and the Suunto App is getting updates regularly. Solid watches that are the antithesis of the disposable mentaility.
That's certainly something to consider. The "other guys" are getting better with firmware updates... even Garmin these days but it's nice to see Suunto keeping up. Then again, they don't have a newer version yet so it's not surprising that they're supporting their flagship model still.
@@ChaseTheSummit true and if one is a 'feature junkie' then there is no doubt Garmin wins hands down. However, when does forced obsolescence become an issue?
I had the first Pace. Great watch and very versatile but it seemed overnight it was out of date, no upgrades and still very plasticky. I like Coros but I wouldn’t buy another one.
Late is better than never . . . which is my style. I've yet to test a Suunto watch. Great hearing your positives and negatives on this one. I can't stand it when companies don't make data access easier. Suunto isn't the only offender here. 😬🍎
Regarding the Peak Pro's bezel - it's not so much that it is big (in fact the screen to edge ratio is on par with many other devices in its class), rather Suunto with their minimalistic design style do not hide it as much as other brands do with chunky "rugged" facia. Desfit does a good job of demonstrating this in his review.
Yeah I suppose I should have worded it differently. I guess it's just the aesthetics of the bezel that bugs me the same way the Polar Vantage models bug me. This is just my opinion though...
I just bought a Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium. It has all the running functions I need and more, but the main reason was because of it's size, weight, and design. This is a watch that I can wear 24/7. I agree that a Forerunner 955 has more features at a lower price, but I would only wear a watch like the 955 while running. So even though the Suunto cost more, my cost/wear for the Suunto ends up being lower. Also, please stop it with the Suunto bezel. At 43mm diametre with 1.2" display, it has exactly the same bezel as the Apex 2. Based on display to case ratio, the Suunto has a smaller bezel than FR255, FR955, Fenix7, and Pacer (Pro). The other watches just does a better job of hiding it.
lol, ya'll are very defensive about that bezel! Like I said, this is just my OPINION. The Bezel LOOKS thicker even if it's similar in size. Of course, you can make your own decision about the looks. I'm not trying to slam the Suunto 9 Peak Pro... just sharing my personal thoughts on the features and pricing given the landscape of the competition right now.
I'm a suunto user and a fan of the brand, therefore a but biased. That said, I a couple thoughts on your nitpicks: 1. Bezel - agree with what others said 2. Buttons is a preference thing, so pointless to argue about. I wouldn't mind more buttons, but this setup is also ok 3. OHR - fair point, I don't know how widespread this is, but hopefully the peaks will eventually be resolved via an update 4. Web App - afaik in Windows 11 you can run android apps, therefore you could in principle run Suunto App on your laptop. Actually, it is also optimized for larger screens: intended use is for tablets, which you btw also could use for a better data visibility. Honestly, I think putting the app as a 'pro' would also be justified, since it offers quite a bit of functionality presented in a nice uncluttered way and also feels quite well designed (compared to Garmin app). Also a lot of partner services, tight komoot, Strava, etc integration. Recently introduced suunto coach (just out of beta) is aspiring to be kinda sorta training hub competitor, will probably need a few more updates to get there though. 5. Price - also fair, at least for titanium model. In fact the price is at that level for rather brief time periods, and you can usually buy it for 100-200 bucks off, which makes it a much more attractive deal. I may be wrong, but other watch companies do not discount their watches for as much (percentage wise) as frequently. Also consider that the watch is made in Europe, and suunto is the only sports watch company that does that btw, and it's also effectively CO2 free. As for higher end specs: didn't you say yourself that suunto GPS tracks usually look as nice or nicer than that of Coros? Then who cares whether it's multiband or not. Coros on the other hand can't measure depth while snorkeling, does have TbT, yes it has maps per se, but the route is plotted as an extra layer and cannot reroute if you go off trail, and suunto has suunto + apps: which basically constantly add functionality to your watch, no FW update needed and guides: either a training plan or even useful reminders for some of the big races. I'm not hugely familiär with the brand, but I'm sure there are some downsides as compared to suunto. I wish in the next videos you would also highlight the upsides of a reviewed watch compared to competition (you obviously have mentioned the overall pros and cons). Anyhow, was interesting to hear your opinion, cheers!
Great comment! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. This video is purely an opinion piece so it's certainly not the gospel. In terms of running the Web App on a computer... sure you can do that. I suppose my use case is having a "work computer" and a personal computer in which case I'd rather not install stuff... I often browse Garmin Connect, Polar Flow, and Training Hub from a computer and I just wish I could do the same with Suunto even if it didn't have 100% functionality.
The main reason for using SUUNTO is the incredible accurate elevation and ascent in mountains in combination to use precise air pressure data. Nothing comes even close. Every TH-cam test does not rate this fact. Second reason is simplicity and design, also app including route building. 9 peak is a masterpiece. But that is kind of subjective. Do not care about bezel or WHR. Bezel might be good for accurate GPS antenna. The bezel of all other watches are also comparable or bigger if you take painted area and metal / plastic luenette in account. WHR is always a problem when moving in mountains. So I like to wear verity sense or a belt in addition. The many things that Garmin provides are for me absolutely useless. I care about accurate basic functions which I missed in every overloaded Garmin watch I tested. If you’re serious in mountains SUUNTO is the way to go (for me). Maps music pay I have better on phone. I never understood the real benefit of wellness functions.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The Altimeter is quite good on the Suunto options! When it comes to simplicity, design, and features that's all subjective. This video is mainly my opinion... hoping it can help someone else with a similar use case and mind set. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the review. Yes, I bought the Peak Pro as an upgrade to my Baro. The size difference was a bit shocking at first, but I’m getting used to it. I’ve been a Suunto fan for decades. 👏🏻
Thank you for this! I’m road cyclists and need good gps, good altimeter and good battery life. Don’t care about besel. Sound like Peak pro is the best option for me. Thanks again!
The only thing I hate about suunto is that they are terrible for swimming does not give you accurate distance it gives you moving time and cuts your distance and swimming time as someone who is a runner is learning to swim I feel cheated so I use my suunto for running and hiking and use my garmin for swimming it is annoying much rather just use one watch
Been waiting for this video!!! Iam the person you are talking about I’m familiar with the suunto platform and much prefer it to Garmin that my wife uses I find the app very clean and easy to use with mostly data that I need. Garmin telling me how many breaths I take in a day I do not care about… iam still using the ambit 3 peak this watch is indestructible and considering it’s age almost 10 years ago gps accuracy is still considered up there with the best. Iam however looking to upgrade and certainly the 9peak pro is on my radar along with the 955 from Garmin. At least here in Australia the suunto is actually much more reasonably priced Garmins are relatively much higher priced here so the cost is not an issue. The bezel does suck however iam aware Garmin has the same they just hide it neater. The ohr accuracy is a critical point of concern, if the heart rate data is not accurate you are putting junk in and can only get junk out this is my biggest gripe with all watches. Even with polar h10 strap I get terrible data from time to time and it stuffs up my training load and recovery etc in suunto app. Iam not Willing to make a decision yet on 955 or 9 peak pro it will depend on end of financial year sales here and who drops there price the lowest. Certainly the suunto are a better made more quality product and this factor only weighs heavily. I personally cannot stand Chinese junk. I think the 9 peak pro is probably the best looking watch with its sleek design. News of the new suunto being release soon could make things more intersting maybe need to wait for this. Thanks for your reviews they are very good
Great video as always. About the price though we’re talking about fully made European watch vs Chinese(all the others) plus fully carbon neutral - something you cannot ever say about Coros or the rest. Materials, EU salaries it all adds up.
That's very true. The unfortunate fact is that most people don't have $700 to shell out on a sport watch regardless of where it's made so I think most people will boil it down to a feature / price ratio. I do like the business model though, I just wish they crammed a few extra features in for the money! (or made it out of cheaper materials to bring down the price point)
@@ChaseTheSummit All of this mostly comes down to what you value in a product though. People who don't have enough money to shell out on a $700 sport watch will either sacrifice features or, as in your assumption, sustainability. Consumerism isn't sustainable in the first place I suppose, but sustainability is definitely on the rise with increased awareness and education about it.
Bezel: if you measure any Garmin or Coros from the edge of the screen to the edge of the watch, it is just as wide as the bezel on the Suunto, Suunto just has a thin edge to hide the internals, so it is a design taste, thin Nordic design or chunky American style design
For sure, I suppose I should have worded it differently. In my opinion the face of the watch just looks a bit dated due to the bezel. I feel the same way about several Polar watches.
@@ChaseTheSummit i totally agree on that, and is one of the reasons why i sold my Suunto and Got a FR955 Solar instead, but app wise i prefer Suunto as Garmins looks and frels outdated and has not gotten an overhaul for ages
A year from the release of this video, I just purchased the Suunto 9 Peak Pro on sale directly from Suunto for $249. I think its a really good deal since the other watches mentioned in the video are still much closer to their original MSRP. Hopefully it stands the test of time. Thanks for the video! 👍
Interestingly, here in South Africa, the 9 Peak Pro Titanium is significantly cheaper than all of the alternatives that you mentioned. Most of the other watches equate to being between $100 - $150 (R2 000 - R3 000) more expensive than the Suunto so for me it's a no brainer which watch to get.
Thanks for the review. You asked for people's thoughts, so here are mine. I too HATE that Sunnto only allows access to the data via a phone app. I would much rather review my data on a desk top computer. However, you can set up your Suunto app to export data to Strava upon synching with the watch, so you can look at your data on a computer, it just has to be via another interface. I am an Ambit 3 Peak owner, looking for a new watch and have been very impressed with Suunto. I paid $400 for the Ambit 3 and it can't do as much as the 9 Peak Pro, nor is the battery life even close, so $550 seems pretty fair to me, based on what I paid 8.5 years ago. My only needs are a long battery life (get me thru a 100 mile ultra), GPS, and HR. I don't really trust wrist HR so am looking for something that can bluetooth with a chest strap too. Any idea what the 9 Peak Pro battery life when best GPS on, chest HR on, and a back light (12hrs a day) is on?
I have an Apple Watch SE 2022. I mainly use it to track steps, calories and sleep, as well as gym sessions (cardio and strength training). My only problem with it is the awful battery. Would this be a good alternative? How does it compare to the Apple Watch regarding accuracy?
The watches are produced carbon neutrally in Finland (a country of high labor costs), which explains a lot of the price. I like the app and many things about Suunto, like not only being able to customize sport profiles, but them being able to tag your workouts afterwards to be able to filter them. Eg. commutes, or bike workouts or runs with or without the dog etc. However, what made me go for F7s solar was mainly more smarts, deeper sports-specific features (like run count in downhill skiing or XC skiing metrics etc) and actual maps. Also considering getting Garmin's dog tracker / GPS collar.
I recently upgraded from my old Suuntu 3 Fitness that I was using for more that 4 years. It started having some issues wrt to battery life due to it's age. So the biggest reason for going for 9 Peak Pro was sticking to the ecosystem. Then theres the design. As someone with rather twiggy arms the smaller size is very welcome, and I really like the understated, clean but very premium design. A watch I am happy very all the time. Most other sports watches look kinda ridiculous to me. My biggest issue is the user interface as you already stated. My old Suunto 3 had a dedicated return button, I wish they would have kept that. But realistically my interaction with the watch boils down to starting and stopping activities and that's it, so in the grand scheme it really does not matter. All in all I am very pleased with the watch, for me the upgrade to integrated GPS and an increase in battery life by almost 2000% is absolutely worth it. I paid 430€ here in germany.
That is good to hear. Starting to see battery quality fail in my Garmin Venue, so considering a Suunto Peak Pro, or Garmin Venue 3s. Like you, sticking with the Garmin ecosystem is a big pull since I have had it this far, and integrates with my pro hiking app (AllTrails+). But the quality, and addition of speaker and mic to the venue 3s is a dislike for me since I really would not use those features at all. 8 months later still enjoying your Suunto?
Nice to see your take on the P9P. I'm a fan of the Suunto universe, and found the the P9P, with its upgraded typography and faster processor a worthy upgrade. And how can you not love a watch with a mermaid function? 🙂 The app is clean and simple to use, and provide all the metrics I need. I really like the navigation tools and integration with komoot. And it is a gorgeous looking watch. But yeah, that price point is real sticking point.
Hi Dave. Great video as always. Liked already. As for Suunto, sports-tracker is their web based platform for workout analysis. For me, my Suunto is like the old VW beetle from the 70's, is a nostalgic feeling from the old Ambit units that I used to use. Now I really like the form factor from Suunto 9 baro, not particularly fan of the new Suunto Peak pro format size but guess this will be the future for the company. Garmin, Polar, Coros are already ahead and looks like Amazfit and Huawei are also in the right pad so Suunto has a lot to catch up if you compare to this brands. But maybe that is not Suunto strategy but to be a brand of it´s own made in Finland with 7.5 Kg CO2 carbon footprint. Cheers from México.
Thks Dave for that great video, i had asked you about that many times by messaging at instagram! Really great presentation! For me if someone wants to make any positive or negative comment, firstly he has to wear this watch for a while… it really feels so well-built! In my point of view i wished it had 2 things: a) HRV- measurements b) training load view in the watch and not only from the app. Heart rate in my arm is accurate no spikes, but honestly i had never problem with hr-sensors from any suunto/polar/garmin watch i’ve used. Thanks again for that great video!
Looking at the Suunto Peak or the Suunto Peak Pro. I just want a good looking watch that does the basics step counter, walking, indoor bicycling, sleep monitor, basic heart rate monitor, and the simple smart phone options, notifications. I like the style. In your opinion, is the Peak Pro worth the money?
Hi! I have a S9PP since March 2022. it is my 3rd Suunto watch. I just sent it back because of the HR accuracy. I've compared with my Ambit 3 Peak (using a HR belt) and a Garmin, wearing the 3 watches during a couple of runs. The S9PP consistently shows HR 25-35 higher than the 2 other watches. Also, the O2 results is generally around 75-85! I'm very disappointed.
Extra comment. Price is steep, but Suunto are the only company that are fully sustainable meaning you can keep your watch going for many years plus they can be returned and recycled. No other company gets near this ethos. I turn my Garmins over regularly because they are basically built pretty badly. Loads of features but in the end you’re buying these cheap and nasty watches far more often. So costs are arbitrary.
That's a great point. I suppose I look at these things from a typical consumers perspective where Price / Features make up the decision matrix but there are certainly more factors to consider.
Nice review! I agree with your take on it. I tried it out as well. A few other things I didn’t like include it only supports BT. It can only pair with one class of device and not multiples of the same class, i.e., you can’t store pairing of multiple hr straps!!! It’s like groundhogs day. The use and function of Resources and Sleep are very poor compared to Garmin (or Apple if just looking at sleep). No maps.
After being Garmin fan for many years and when another Fenix got broken and it can’t fix it I am going to switch to Suunto. I am just wondering if I should switch right now to 9PP or wait for Suunto 10 which is going to show up propably this year. This what I like in Suunto watches is that they have everything You need and they are not overpacked with staff that You actually don’t use at all like other brands.
Great video. I saw the sunset hat on your video when you were showing off your website. I see that it’s sold out. Are you planning on getting more of those hats? It looks awesome.
I have a Suunto Fitness 3 I bought from a clearance place in mid-2020. I like the features etc, I later picked up a basic Garmin Instinct...I prefer the Suunto, Garmin's UI is weird. I was considering buying a 9 Peak Pro or the 5.
I can pick up the Peak Pro in Australia for AU$550 (around US$360) which makes it more affordable. I find massive watches bulky and uncomfortable, and the smaller Garmin watches like the Fenix 7s are close to AU$900 even when discounted. I also like the sharp contrast and simple course mapping on the Peak Pro when hiking. I'd love to be able to use the detailed Garmin maps, but my poor eyesight can't cope. I find the Garmin navigation screens very hard to see. I have a Garmin handheld device for the topo maps and detailed navigation and take it on hikes as a backup.
I recently switched from 9baro to p9p. Mainly because of the size and don't regret it at all. I often use it to measure my heart rate while I sleep and 9baro is really to chunky. With p9p I can't really say if I'm wearing it how it is small and light. Plus every feature just got better. Amazing battery life for so small watch. Much faster cpu, better whr, gps accuracy, more contrasty and readable display. And of course new mermaid activity:)
If price were no barrier - and you had a small wrist - you’d probably buy this. It does everything an Pro-Am level athlete needs. One thing I miss is the training recommendations that polar and Garmin would give me.
@@ChaseTheSummit indeed - though to buy a titanium and sapphire model it’s still nearly half the price of a Garmin, and much better looking. Have you done a video comparing the accuracy/quality/reality of the feature set (ie, training readiness, sleep, body battery, race predictor, etc) between the big brands?
I always see Suunto advertised at discount prices. They even have a 40% off their own website. Whether you view that as a desperate move to sell units or that you’ll always find a better value deal for a Suunto versus a Garmin is down to you. Still a solid brand.
Apparently, or at least rumor has it, a new Suunto device will be launched. It will be interesting to see what changes it brings. It's called the "Suunto Vertical" from what I can tell online.
I was deciding between Suunto.9 Peak PRO and Garmin Instinct 2 solar tactic (I don't like Fenix, just too big for my small wrist), but after research I went for garmin because I just simply like the looks and functions it gives me, really practical watch! Now on other hand my main thing was TOPO maps for watch to see locations and orient in mountains, forests more but... I guess i can just glance my smartphone for that and save few hundred bucks, plus experienced hikers just don't "trust" electronics that much in these kind of situations so Tactical offers lat and alt coordinates which is great for navigating. I heard Suunto have a really positive and "something about it that makes you use it" app, which many people said it is but somehow I wasn't convinced. It seems like Suunto is sleeping, getting outdated by fast moving technology but who knows, maybe after a year or maybe more it will be worth to swap to this watch.
Yes, Suunto they have been sleeping for year, but I think they are waking up now, and especially the app, is very useful! Very easy to plan a route, add to the watch, and then follow it. Yes, I think they are getting up in speed again..👍🤞
Nice watch, but from my point of view there are some features that made me switch from Suunto (they don't have an proper watch now in the range) to Garmin: - is too small - Navigation is poor (no map) - display size - price
It seems to be available for about 350 eur/usd here in Poland, the white/gold model which will be perfect as a gift for my gf (hopefully!). Other color variants are ~50 bucks more.
I have a veeery old Suunto 3 watch and I love it but I want to buy a newer one, because of the gps. I really like the new Race S but I’m not sure about the size (I’m a woman). I’m thinking about buying the 9 Peak Pro. What do you think? I’m not a professional athlete, only passionate 😄
I get that feature wise, this isn't up to par comparing against Garmins offerings. That form factor though.. Can't find other premium material watches under 11mm thick and below 45 wide
Mmm complaning about the screen but your Garmin Instinct is even smaller on a massive case! 😂 and you forgot a very nice feature which is the freediving mode, which none of the others you compared it to have. Excellent presentation BTW! 👏🏼
You’re not wrong but on the instinct the bezel serves a purpose being a solar panel… similar to the new Suunto Vertical. I can’t comment on the free dive stuff since I’m mainly a runner… these are just my opinions.
One thing I have noticed in the short time of owning the 9 Peak Pro is that just sitting during the day and then moving my wrist changes the step count. Apparently Apple has figured out how not to count wrist movements, but Suunto hasn't. Otherwise, I love battery performance.
Points that are completely ignored in youtube reviews are longevity, reparability and thus sustainability. I think more and more people care about this. I feel for Garmin, bought vivoactive 4. The watch died after 2 years and some moths of usage. I tried to get it repared to realize garmin does not do servise and build the watch in a way that its hard to repair for whoever wants to try. Essentially, from what i found online and talked to people in watch repair shop, you use it for a few years and then toss it and buy new one. That is disgusting policy. So if suunto watch has all one needs overbuild is appropriate as its build for over 10 years of use, as i was told in Suunto service. Plus some suunto watches such as 9 peak pro are manufactured in Finland. Which has also ethical and sustainability benefits.
The problem with ALL wearable devices is the battery technology. These batteries degrade quickly (typically losing 5% or more within the first year) with regular charging/discharging. So after 2-3 years your watch that used to last 25 hours in a GPS activity now lasts 10-12 at most. Garmin used to service their watches but I think it became too costly for them and now they typically offer a trade in or discount to users who have issues within the first couple of years. I do like what Suunto is doing to reduce their carbon footprint though. It's good to see big brands like Apple also following that trend. Hopefully we can get to a place with battery tech where these devices can last 10+ years but we're not there yet.
@@ChaseTheSummitThank you for the reply. I understand that battery is generally the problem. That's why I appreciate that Suunto makes it easy to replace the battery rather than whole watch. Suunto service guy told me that they can get replacement parts for 10 years old models. That's what I meant when I said that they are build for longer. Also they can check and renew the water resistance. (In the case of my Garmin sea water got in during normal swimming.) By the way, in these days in Europe I can find Suunto 9 peak pro titanium for 360 euro. Which makes it easier decision🙂
I like the Suunto watches for the quality, design and ‘simplicity’ but I agree that it is a bit pricy for what you get, that there are not enough buttons, and that the lack of a web browser to access detailed data is a real letdown. I won’t be upgrading my Fenix 7 any day soon but when the time comes I will have a look and see what Suunto might offer at that time. It will have to be good though to compete with Garmin and as Garmin no doubt has a much bigger customer base, and sells many more units, I presume the Garmin prices will always be competitive.
Hello there, I'm looking to buy Garmin 255 or this suunto peak pro. For me the most important is the GPS. I will use for my running training. Please help me to choose one.. big hug from Brazil
I definitely throw myself into the “overly in-depth menu system reviews” hahah. Awesome video though Dave, I liked this format! A lot of great points! 🌟
I had a Suunto Spartan Ultra way back in 2018, it had all of the same pros and cons as you report for the latest model. The three button layout I found to be a real problem as you had to use the touch screen functions too often and in wet rainy UK rain jacket sleeves and even rain drops produced unwanted actions on the watch. Suunto used to have a web browser and for reasons known only to them they decided the future was in apps only, it was a monumentally poorly managed migration, with functionality being removed before it was added and sometimes not added to the new app. Well made but poorly designed kit.
I am interested in a smart watch to track my sleep, indoor running, pool swimming, indoor biking, bodybuilding, Pilates and hart rate in the sauna. I could choose from GARMIN INSTINCT 2X SOLAR TACTICAL (2500 RON), GARMIN FORERUNNER 265 (2500 RON), POLAR GRIT X PRO (2470 RON), SUUNTO 9 PEAK PRO (2400 RON) or COROS VERTIX 47MM - all are kind of the same price in my country. I like the 15 ATM of the COROS VERTIX 47MM and the 10 ATM of the instinct, grit x pro and 9 peak pro compared with the 5 ATM of the forerunner 265. I have no idea which one would suit better my needs. Please help. Thank you!
Better late than never 😅 great video tho! I had to return mine because the step count was ridiculous. Got around 200 steps from pooping 😂 Any idea when the suunto 10 will come or any news from polar?
Hello, thank you for this video. I want to buy my first premium GPS watch and I'm very hesitant between the suunto 9 peak pro and the garmin fenix 6s pro (the 7 is too expensive for me) I am 50 years old, I practice running, hiking, sometimes mountaineering and a bit of cycling. I am looking for an easy to use and reliable watch. A small one, because of my wrist. And a watch I can use daily even if I do not practise. I agree on the points you don't like : the size of the bezel even if the watch display 1.2" is the same on other device? It seems on the video that it is not very bright and the colors dull. Is it an impression or not? how is it at night to check data ? Then with Garmin I have the impression that there are really too many features that I will never use. It seems to me that not having a map on the watch is not a handicap given the size of the watch. Do you agree with that ? I would also have liked Suunto to have a website in addition to the smartphone application. It's very hard to choose because they are very different. I would prefer the Suunto but the points I don't like disturb me. But may be it could just be an impression. And the 6s pro seems to be more complicated. At the end which watch would you recommend between the suunto 9 PP or Garmin 6s Pro. Thanks
Between the Fenix 6 and S9PP it's a tough call. The S9PP is newer and has better GPS accuracy along with more battery life. The Fenix 6 has full on mapping, a better ecosystem, and more wellness features. I'd say both are good if you know what you're getting into. Go with which one you find more attractive?
@@ChaseTheSummit Thank you for your answer. I like the suunto. But I have the impression that with garmin we know what to expect. There is everything ! and Suunto is in the future. You have to wait for them with improvements. It's more a bet on the future :). If there are users of the S9PP who are satisfied, I would be happy to hear their comments.
Is the Garmin Forerunner 700 series an option for you? Personally I like the design and that it is quite small on the wrist. It is also very durable. The map options might be a problem though
@@bertrandagostini2449 I recently switched from baro9 to p9p and I'm pretty happy. All new features from 9baro (after all updates in last some 5years) are there and even more.
Regarding the bezel (sorry, you seem to be getting a lot of heat on this for some reason), how would you say it is relative to my FR955? It has a pretty decent bezel, but doesn’t bother me. But I do hear ya on it being 2023.
Lol yeah, I tend to get heat whenever I share an opinion 😬. The 955 has bezels but they’re definitely thinner than the Suunto 9 peak or at least they appear that way thanks to the design.
I went from Suunto Ambit 3 Peak to Garmin 6X Sapphire. Just because I got tired of Suunto's weird policy. Don't get me wrong, I still like them, but they will have to put a lot of effort on the table to make me return as their customer.
Is your suunto 9 peak pro heart rate accurate? Mine is a lot higher than Garmin, which I feel strange…. Garmin heart rate reading is align with my hospital check.
It depends on what is the main purpose of using it. As a sporttester/training watch f265 would be better. If You want multifunctional durable outdoor watch with training options, go for 9p9.
@@martinchrastny6170 Thank you! Focus is on running training + trailrunning and mountaineering at the weekends. I don't need whats App notifications or something like that on my watch.
Depends, the 265 has better wellness features in my opinion, better HR accuracy in my testing, internal music storage, and of course the AMOLED display. Suunto 9 Peak Pro has longer battery life, a simpler interface, and maybe a better course creation tool in the app for navigation. It also has a really good altimeter/barometer. Which features are more important to you?
Suunto 9 peak pro in Europe is having good discount online. So lacking of detail map or other things is not a big issue as 9 peak pro is now in a slightly lower market😂
… and they used to have good web browser interface for computers with the best maps for people who hike outside of tourist trails. I still don’t understand why they demolished it instead improve 😢
I think the fully carbon compensated aspect is pretty important…with the state of the earth right now, I think more companies really need to start investing in this.
I'm just reading their spec sheet which mixes the two. They typically use imperial for the display size for some reason. Maybe because most American consumers are more familiar with that terminology?
I don’t see any reason I would get this watch. I have the Polar Vantage V2,M1 H9 and H10 sensors, plus my Garmin Edge cycling devices and Rally pedals. I don’t see any additional advantages of getting into Suunto. I have Apple phones and thought about the Ulta iWatch or thought about the Garmin watches but that’s only because they have great user experience. Apple has zero sports testing features that I know about
I like the fact that Suunto builds for sustainability. The S9 is still receiving new features and upgrades 5 years after launch in 2018 and the Suunto App is getting updates regularly. Solid watches that are the antithesis of the disposable mentaility.
My Coros was obsolete and unable to get updates after 18months. It’s a disposable world.. that’s why I’ll stick with Suunto.
Which COROS became obsolete in 18 months? They're still updating the Pace 2, and Apex that came out over 2 years ago.
That's certainly something to consider. The "other guys" are getting better with firmware updates... even Garmin these days but it's nice to see Suunto keeping up. Then again, they don't have a newer version yet so it's not surprising that they're supporting their flagship model still.
@@ChaseTheSummit true and if one is a 'feature junkie' then there is no doubt Garmin wins hands down. However, when does forced obsolescence become an issue?
I had the first Pace. Great watch and very versatile but it seemed overnight it was out of date, no upgrades and still very plasticky. I like Coros but I wouldn’t buy another one.
Late is better than never . . . which is my style. I've yet to test a Suunto watch. Great hearing your positives and negatives on this one. I can't stand it when companies don't make data access easier. Suunto isn't the only offender here. 😬🍎
Regarding the Peak Pro's bezel - it's not so much that it is big (in fact the screen to edge ratio is on par with many other devices in its class), rather Suunto with their minimalistic design style do not hide it as much as other brands do with chunky "rugged" facia. Desfit does a good job of demonstrating this in his review.
Yeah I suppose I should have worded it differently. I guess it's just the aesthetics of the bezel that bugs me the same way the Polar Vantage models bug me. This is just my opinion though...
I just bought a Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium. It has all the running functions I need and more, but the main reason was because of it's size, weight, and design. This is a watch that I can wear 24/7. I agree that a Forerunner 955 has more features at a lower price, but I would only wear a watch like the 955 while running. So even though the Suunto cost more, my cost/wear for the Suunto ends up being lower.
Also, please stop it with the Suunto bezel. At 43mm diametre with 1.2" display, it has exactly the same bezel as the Apex 2. Based on display to case ratio, the Suunto has a smaller bezel than FR255, FR955, Fenix7, and Pacer (Pro). The other watches just does a better job of hiding it.
Totally agree. The bezel slamming is getting very old.
lol, ya'll are very defensive about that bezel! Like I said, this is just my OPINION. The Bezel LOOKS thicker even if it's similar in size. Of course, you can make your own decision about the looks. I'm not trying to slam the Suunto 9 Peak Pro... just sharing my personal thoughts on the features and pricing given the landscape of the competition right now.
I had the same thought as you.
The forerunner is all plastic and gorilla, so it’s a bit of a downgrade from the suunto
The Suunto 9 peak pro baro titanium kost now € 399 in the Netherlands including taxes.
I'm a suunto user and a fan of the brand, therefore a but biased.
That said, I a couple thoughts on your nitpicks:
1. Bezel - agree with what others said
2. Buttons is a preference thing, so pointless to argue about. I wouldn't mind more buttons, but this setup is also ok
3. OHR - fair point, I don't know how widespread this is, but hopefully the peaks will eventually be resolved via an update
4. Web App - afaik in Windows 11 you can run android apps, therefore you could in principle run Suunto App on your laptop. Actually, it is also optimized for larger screens: intended use is for tablets, which you btw also could use for a better data visibility. Honestly, I think putting the app as a 'pro' would also be justified, since it offers quite a bit of functionality presented in a nice uncluttered way and also feels quite well designed (compared to Garmin app). Also a lot of partner services, tight komoot, Strava, etc integration. Recently introduced suunto coach (just out of beta) is aspiring to be kinda sorta training hub competitor, will probably need a few more updates to get there though.
5. Price - also fair, at least for titanium model. In fact the price is at that level for rather brief time periods, and you can usually buy it for 100-200 bucks off, which makes it a much more attractive deal. I may be wrong, but other watch companies do not discount their watches for as much (percentage wise) as frequently.
Also consider that the watch is made in Europe, and suunto is the only sports watch company that does that btw, and it's also effectively CO2 free.
As for higher end specs: didn't you say yourself that suunto GPS tracks usually look as nice or nicer than that of Coros? Then who cares whether it's multiband or not. Coros on the other hand can't measure depth while snorkeling, does have TbT, yes it has maps per se, but the route is plotted as an extra layer and cannot reroute if you go off trail, and suunto has suunto + apps: which basically constantly add functionality to your watch, no FW update needed and guides: either a training plan or even useful reminders for some of the big races. I'm not hugely familiär with the brand, but I'm sure there are some downsides as compared to suunto.
I wish in the next videos you would also highlight the upsides of a reviewed watch compared to competition (you obviously have mentioned the overall pros and cons).
Anyhow, was interesting to hear your opinion, cheers!
Great comment! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. This video is purely an opinion piece so it's certainly not the gospel. In terms of running the Web App on a computer... sure you can do that. I suppose my use case is having a "work computer" and a personal computer in which case I'd rather not install stuff... I often browse Garmin Connect, Polar Flow, and Training Hub from a computer and I just wish I could do the same with Suunto even if it didn't have 100% functionality.
The main reason for using SUUNTO is the incredible accurate elevation and ascent in mountains in combination to use precise air pressure data. Nothing comes even close. Every TH-cam test does not rate this fact. Second reason is simplicity and design, also app including route building. 9 peak is a masterpiece. But that is kind of subjective. Do not care about bezel or WHR. Bezel might be good for accurate GPS antenna. The bezel of all other watches are also comparable or bigger if you take painted area and metal / plastic luenette in account. WHR is always a problem when moving in mountains. So I like to wear verity sense or a belt in addition. The many things that Garmin provides are for me absolutely useless. I care about accurate basic functions which I missed in every overloaded Garmin watch I tested. If you’re serious in mountains SUUNTO is the way to go (for me). Maps music pay I have better on phone. I never understood the real benefit of wellness functions.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The Altimeter is quite good on the Suunto options! When it comes to simplicity, design, and features that's all subjective. This video is mainly my opinion... hoping it can help someone else with a similar use case and mind set. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the review. Yes, I bought the Peak Pro as an upgrade to my Baro. The size difference was a bit shocking at first, but I’m getting used to it. I’ve been a Suunto fan for decades. 👏🏻
Thank you for this! I’m road cyclists and need good gps, good altimeter and good battery life. Don’t care about besel. Sound like Peak pro is the best option for me. Thanks again!
hyva, but anteeksi, gotta have maps
The only thing I hate about suunto is that they are terrible for swimming does not give you accurate distance it gives you moving time and cuts your distance and swimming time as someone who is a runner is learning to swim I feel cheated so I use my suunto for running and hiking and use my garmin for swimming it is annoying much rather just use one watch
Been waiting for this video!!! Iam the person you are talking about I’m familiar with the suunto platform and much prefer it to Garmin that my wife uses I find the app very clean and easy to use with mostly data that I need. Garmin telling me how many breaths I take in a day I do not care about… iam still using the ambit 3 peak this watch is indestructible and considering it’s age almost 10 years ago gps accuracy is still considered up there with the best. Iam however looking to upgrade and certainly the 9peak pro is on my radar along with the 955 from Garmin. At least here in Australia the suunto is actually much more reasonably priced Garmins are relatively much higher priced here so the cost is not an issue. The bezel does suck however iam aware Garmin has the same they just hide it neater. The ohr accuracy is a critical point of concern, if the heart rate data is not accurate you are putting junk in and can only get junk out this is my biggest gripe with all watches. Even with polar h10 strap I get terrible data from time to time and it stuffs up my training load and recovery etc in suunto app. Iam not Willing to make a decision yet on 955 or 9 peak pro it will depend on end of financial year sales here and who drops there price the lowest. Certainly the suunto are a better made more quality product and this factor only weighs heavily. I personally cannot stand Chinese junk. I think the 9 peak pro is probably the best looking watch with its sleek design. News of the new suunto being release soon could make things more intersting maybe need to wait for this. Thanks for your reviews they are very good
Thanks to the price drop to $410 USD, I visited my local REI today and picked one up. Looking forward to several years with it living on my wrist!
Great video as always. About the price though we’re talking about fully made European watch vs Chinese(all the others) plus fully carbon neutral - something you cannot ever say about Coros or the rest. Materials, EU salaries it all adds up.
That's very true. The unfortunate fact is that most people don't have $700 to shell out on a sport watch regardless of where it's made so I think most people will boil it down to a feature / price ratio. I do like the business model though, I just wish they crammed a few extra features in for the money! (or made it out of cheaper materials to bring down the price point)
@@ChaseTheSummit All of this mostly comes down to what you value in a product though. People who don't have enough money to shell out on a $700 sport watch will either sacrifice features or, as in your assumption, sustainability. Consumerism isn't sustainable in the first place I suppose, but sustainability is definitely on the rise with increased awareness and education about it.
This one really speaks to me. A really beautiful watch with the major functions! Here where I live it cost only 450€ as well.
Just picked up a refurbished 9 Peak Pro for $309, comes with a 2 year warranty. Seems like a good deal....thanks for making the video
Bezel: if you measure any Garmin or Coros from the edge of the screen to the edge of the watch, it is just as wide as the bezel on the Suunto, Suunto just has a thin edge to hide the internals, so it is a design taste, thin Nordic design or chunky American style design
For sure, I suppose I should have worded it differently. In my opinion the face of the watch just looks a bit dated due to the bezel. I feel the same way about several Polar watches.
@@ChaseTheSummit i totally agree on that, and is one of the reasons why i sold my Suunto and Got a FR955 Solar instead, but app wise i prefer Suunto as Garmins looks and frels outdated and has not gotten an overhaul for ages
Yes but those are not eye sore. On the Suunto it makes it look ugly.
A year from the release of this video, I just purchased the Suunto 9 Peak Pro on sale directly from Suunto for $249. I think its a really good deal since the other watches mentioned in the video are still much closer to their original MSRP. Hopefully it stands the test of time. Thanks for the video! 👍
If my Garmin breaks I might go for this watch - looks soooo good and does the basic stuff. And the app is pretty good:)
Interestingly, here in South Africa, the 9 Peak Pro Titanium is significantly cheaper than all of the alternatives that you mentioned. Most of the other watches equate to being between $100 - $150 (R2 000 - R3 000) more expensive than the Suunto so for me it's a no brainer which watch to get.
Same here in Poland, seems I will be getting it for about 350 usd/eur (actually, less than 350 usd at current conversion rates...)
@8:18 “…and that’s kind of the end of things that I like”
Love the way you put it! 🙃
I just ordered the Suunto 9 Peak Pro. I love the Suunto products and am an avid hiker and backpacker.
Thanks for the review. You asked for people's thoughts, so here are mine.
I too HATE that Sunnto only allows access to the data via a phone app. I would much rather review my data on a desk top computer. However, you can set up your Suunto app to export data to Strava upon synching with the watch, so you can look at your data on a computer, it just has to be via another interface.
I am an Ambit 3 Peak owner, looking for a new watch and have been very impressed with Suunto. I paid $400 for the Ambit 3 and it can't do as much as the 9 Peak Pro, nor is the battery life even close, so $550 seems pretty fair to me, based on what I paid 8.5 years ago.
My only needs are a long battery life (get me thru a 100 mile ultra), GPS, and HR. I don't really trust wrist HR so am looking for something that can bluetooth with a chest strap too.
Any idea what the 9 Peak Pro battery life when best GPS on, chest HR on, and a back light (12hrs a day) is on?
I have an Apple Watch SE 2022. I mainly use it to track steps, calories and sleep, as well as gym sessions (cardio and strength training). My only problem with it is the awful battery. Would this be a good alternative? How does it compare to the Apple Watch regarding accuracy?
The watches are produced carbon neutrally in Finland (a country of high labor costs), which explains a lot of the price.
I like the app and many things about Suunto, like not only being able to customize sport profiles, but them being able to tag your workouts afterwards to be able to filter them. Eg. commutes, or bike workouts or runs with or without the dog etc. However, what made me go for F7s solar was mainly more smarts, deeper sports-specific features (like run count in downhill skiing or XC skiing metrics etc) and actual maps. Also considering getting Garmin's dog tracker / GPS collar.
I recently upgraded from my old Suuntu 3 Fitness that I was using for more that 4 years. It started having some issues wrt to battery life due to it's age. So the biggest reason for going for 9 Peak Pro was sticking to the ecosystem. Then theres the design. As someone with rather twiggy arms the smaller size is very welcome, and I really like the understated, clean but very premium design. A watch I am happy very all the time. Most other sports watches look kinda ridiculous to me.
My biggest issue is the user interface as you already stated. My old Suunto 3 had a dedicated return button, I wish they would have kept that. But realistically my interaction with the watch boils down to starting and stopping activities and that's it, so in the grand scheme it really does not matter.
All in all I am very pleased with the watch, for me the upgrade to integrated GPS and an increase in battery life by almost 2000% is absolutely worth it. I paid 430€ here in germany.
That is good to hear. Starting to see battery quality fail in my Garmin Venue, so considering a Suunto Peak Pro, or Garmin Venue 3s. Like you, sticking with the Garmin ecosystem is a big pull since I have had it this far, and integrates with my pro hiking app (AllTrails+).
But the quality, and addition of speaker and mic to the venue 3s is a dislike for me since I really would not use those features at all.
8 months later still enjoying your Suunto?
had the watch .. loved the built quality and app interface…
Nice to see your take on the P9P. I'm a fan of the Suunto universe, and found the the P9P, with its upgraded typography and faster processor a worthy upgrade. And how can you not love a watch with a mermaid function? 🙂 The app is clean and simple to use, and provide all the metrics I need. I really like the navigation tools and integration with komoot. And it is a gorgeous looking watch. But yeah, that price point is real sticking point.
Hi Dave. Great video as always. Liked already. As for Suunto, sports-tracker is their web based platform for workout analysis. For me, my Suunto is like the old VW beetle from the 70's, is a nostalgic feeling from the old Ambit units that I used to use. Now I really like the form factor from Suunto 9 baro, not particularly fan of the new Suunto Peak pro format size but guess this will be the future for the company. Garmin, Polar, Coros are already ahead and looks like Amazfit and Huawei are also in the right pad so Suunto has a lot to catch up if you compare to this brands. But maybe that is not Suunto strategy but to be a brand of it´s own made in Finland with 7.5 Kg CO2 carbon footprint. Cheers from México.
Thks Dave for that great video, i had asked you about that many times by messaging at instagram! Really great presentation! For me if someone wants to make any positive or negative comment, firstly he has to wear this watch for a while… it really feels so well-built! In my point of view i wished it had 2 things: a) HRV- measurements b) training load view in the watch and not only from the app. Heart rate in my arm is accurate no spikes, but honestly i had never problem with hr-sensors from any suunto/polar/garmin watch i’ve used. Thanks again for that great video!
August 2023 they're already available for under 400 Euros in EU. Great value and one disadvantage less.
Looking at the Suunto Peak or the Suunto Peak Pro. I just want a good looking watch that does the basics step counter, walking, indoor bicycling, sleep monitor, basic heart rate monitor, and the simple smart phone options, notifications. I like the style. In your opinion, is the Peak Pro worth the money?
Hi! I have a S9PP since March 2022. it is my 3rd Suunto watch. I just sent it back because of the HR accuracy. I've compared with my Ambit 3 Peak (using a HR belt) and a Garmin, wearing the 3 watches during a couple of runs. The S9PP consistently shows HR 25-35 higher than the 2 other watches. Also, the O2 results is generally around 75-85! I'm very disappointed.
Extra comment. Price is steep, but Suunto are the only company that are fully sustainable meaning you can keep your watch going for many years plus they can be returned and recycled. No other company gets near this ethos. I turn my Garmins over regularly because they are basically built pretty badly. Loads of features but in the end you’re buying these cheap and nasty watches far more often. So costs are arbitrary.
That's a great point. I suppose I look at these things from a typical consumers perspective where Price / Features make up the decision matrix but there are certainly more factors to consider.
Garmin also has a recycling program and I’ve yet to kill a single Garmin or Polar
Nice review! I agree with your take on it. I tried it out as well. A few other things I didn’t like include it only supports BT. It can only pair with one class of device and not multiples of the same class, i.e., you can’t store pairing of multiple hr straps!!! It’s like groundhogs day. The use and function of Resources and Sleep are very poor compared to Garmin (or Apple if just looking at sleep). No maps.
Great video 👍I ordered one from amazon, and i immediately sent it back mostly because of the bezel. It felt really outdated
I'm kind of a new guy here, but your reviews are freaking awesome! Thank you!
Actually the bezel on other watches are quite as wide, but they manage to "hide" this in a better way
These days the bezels have shrunk on most modern watches... There's still a few though!
Yes, I remember another guy on TH-cam (Desfit?) measured the size and it's the same, other companies just hide the bezel better.
Solar panels on Polar huge bezels could solve world's energy problems
After being Garmin fan for many years and when another Fenix got broken and it can’t fix it I am going to switch to Suunto. I am just wondering if I should switch right now to 9PP or wait for Suunto 10 which is going to show up propably this year. This what I like in Suunto watches is that they have everything You need and they are not overpacked with staff that You actually don’t use at all like other brands.
I'm hoping the next version (suunto 10) is packed with features!
Next suunto is just around the corner, a couple of weeks maybe
May 9th.
Great video. I saw the sunset hat on your video when you were showing off your website. I see that it’s sold out. Are you planning on getting more of those hats? It looks awesome.
More will be in stock eventually! Thanks!
Price drop at REI so I bought the Titanium one last week. I bought it for the refined size, sapphire screen…..
I just got the Race Sunnto a beautiful looking watch I'm going to test it for a while to see if I'll keep it. Thanks for review
The Race is a great watch! Enjoy!
I have a Suunto Fitness 3 I bought from a clearance place in mid-2020. I like the features etc, I later picked up a basic Garmin Instinct...I prefer the Suunto, Garmin's UI is weird. I was considering buying a 9 Peak Pro or the 5.
I can pick up the Peak Pro in Australia for AU$550 (around US$360) which makes it more affordable. I find massive watches bulky and uncomfortable, and the smaller Garmin watches like the Fenix 7s are close to AU$900 even when discounted. I also like the sharp contrast and simple course mapping on the Peak Pro when hiking. I'd love to be able to use the detailed Garmin maps, but my poor eyesight can't cope. I find the Garmin navigation screens very hard to see. I have a Garmin handheld device for the topo maps and detailed navigation and take it on hikes as a backup.
Will you update this review now after last UI update etc? Maybe a comparison of 9PP, Race and Vertical?
I’ll see what I can do!
@@ChaseTheSummit Haha. A week without anything else major it's a prrrrfect subject. :) Thank you for all the good vidoes/podcasts!
Nice video. Should I go with that one or Garmin Venu 3?
I am exactly the user you mention : I have a 9 Baro and am thinking about upgrading. Thanks for this overview!
I have a Baro and it’s just so “built like a tank” I can’t imagine replacing it for years. It’s been a great ultra watch for me.
I recently switched from 9baro to p9p. Mainly because of the size and don't regret it at all. I often use it to measure my heart rate while I sleep and 9baro is really to chunky. With p9p I can't really say if I'm wearing it how it is small and light. Plus every feature just got better. Amazing battery life for so small watch. Much faster cpu, better whr, gps accuracy, more contrasty and readable display. And of course new mermaid activity:)
If price were no barrier - and you had a small wrist - you’d probably buy this. It does everything an Pro-Am level athlete needs. One thing I miss is the training recommendations that polar and Garmin would give me.
If the price was $399 or $449 I feel like I'd be a lot less critical
@@ChaseTheSummit indeed - though to buy a titanium and sapphire model it’s still nearly half the price of a Garmin, and much better looking. Have you done a video comparing the accuracy/quality/reality of the feature set (ie, training readiness, sleep, body battery, race predictor, etc) between the big brands?
I always see Suunto advertised at discount prices. They even have a 40% off their own website. Whether you view that as a desperate move to sell units or that you’ll always find a better value deal for a Suunto versus a Garmin is down to you. Still a solid brand.
Nice review about Suunto!
Apparently, or at least rumor has it, a new Suunto device will be launched. It will be interesting to see what changes it brings. It's called the "Suunto Vertical" from what I can tell online.
Cool! Looking forward to it!
I was deciding between Suunto.9 Peak PRO and Garmin Instinct 2 solar tactic (I don't like Fenix, just too big for my small wrist), but after research I went for garmin because I just simply like the looks and functions it gives me, really practical watch! Now on other hand my main thing was TOPO maps for watch to see locations and orient in mountains, forests more but... I guess i can just glance my smartphone for that and save few hundred bucks, plus experienced hikers just don't "trust" electronics that much in these kind of situations so Tactical offers lat and alt coordinates which is great for navigating.
I heard Suunto have a really positive and "something about it that makes you use it" app, which many people said it is but somehow I wasn't convinced. It seems like Suunto is sleeping, getting outdated by fast moving technology but who knows, maybe after a year or maybe more it will be worth to swap to this watch.
Yes, Suunto they have been sleeping for year, but I think they are waking up now, and especially the app, is very useful! Very easy to plan a route, add to the watch, and then follow it. Yes, I think they are getting up in speed again..👍🤞
Can you make a video about the top 5 best gps navigation long hike watches?
Nice watch, but from my point of view there are some features that made me switch from Suunto (they don't have an proper watch now in the range) to Garmin:
- is too small
- Navigation is poor (no map)
- display size
- price
It seems to be available for about 350 eur/usd here in Poland, the white/gold model which will be perfect as a gift for my gf (hopefully!). Other color variants are ~50 bucks more.
What's the best overall Suunto 9 Baro or Suunto 9 Peak Pro? Thanks in advance.
9 peak pro😂
I have a veeery old Suunto 3 watch and I love it but I want to buy a newer one, because of the gps. I really like the new Race S but I’m not sure about the size (I’m a woman). I’m thinking about buying the 9 Peak Pro. What do you think? I’m not a professional athlete, only passionate 😄
I get that feature wise, this isn't up to par comparing against Garmins offerings. That form factor though.. Can't find other premium material watches under 11mm thick and below 45 wide
For sure, though the Garmin Fenix 7S does come close along with the COROS Apex 2 which are both 42mm options... just a bit thicker.
@@ChaseTheSummit yeah, but the Garmin is 14mm thick, the apex 2 almost 13. That's quite the difference versus 10.8..
Mmm complaning about the screen but your Garmin Instinct is even smaller on a massive case! 😂 and you forgot a very nice feature which is the freediving mode, which none of the others you compared it to have.
Excellent presentation BTW! 👏🏼
You’re not wrong but on the instinct the bezel serves a purpose being a solar panel… similar to the new Suunto Vertical. I can’t comment on the free dive stuff since I’m mainly a runner… these are just my opinions.
One thing I have noticed in the short time of owning the 9 Peak Pro is that just sitting during the day and then moving my wrist changes the step count. Apparently Apple has figured out how not to count wrist movements, but Suunto hasn't. Otherwise, I love battery performance.
Most of them have that issue (including apple in some cases) but some seem to do it better than others!
Points that are completely ignored in youtube reviews are longevity, reparability and thus sustainability. I think more and more people care about this. I feel for Garmin, bought vivoactive 4. The watch died after 2 years and some moths of usage. I tried to get it repared to realize garmin does not do servise and build the watch in a way that its hard to repair for whoever wants to try. Essentially, from what i found online and talked to people in watch repair shop, you use it for a few years and then toss it and buy new one. That is disgusting policy. So if suunto watch has all one needs overbuild is appropriate as its build for over 10 years of use, as i was told in Suunto service. Plus some suunto watches such as 9 peak pro are manufactured in Finland. Which has also ethical and sustainability benefits.
The problem with ALL wearable devices is the battery technology. These batteries degrade quickly (typically losing 5% or more within the first year) with regular charging/discharging. So after 2-3 years your watch that used to last 25 hours in a GPS activity now lasts 10-12 at most. Garmin used to service their watches but I think it became too costly for them and now they typically offer a trade in or discount to users who have issues within the first couple of years.
I do like what Suunto is doing to reduce their carbon footprint though. It's good to see big brands like Apple also following that trend. Hopefully we can get to a place with battery tech where these devices can last 10+ years but we're not there yet.
@@ChaseTheSummitThank you for the reply. I understand that battery is generally the problem. That's why I appreciate that Suunto makes it easy to replace the battery rather than whole watch. Suunto service guy told me that they can get replacement parts for 10 years old models. That's what I meant when I said that they are build for longer. Also they can check and renew the water resistance. (In the case of my Garmin sea water got in during normal swimming.) By the way, in these days in Europe I can find Suunto 9 peak pro titanium for 360 euro. Which makes it easier decision🙂
I like the Suunto watches for the quality, design and ‘simplicity’ but I agree that it is a bit pricy for what you get, that there are not enough buttons, and that the lack of a web browser to access detailed data is a real letdown. I won’t be upgrading my Fenix 7 any day soon but when the time comes I will have a look and see what Suunto might offer at that time. It will have to be good though to compete with Garmin and as Garmin no doubt has a much bigger customer base, and sells many more units, I presume the Garmin prices will always be competitive.
Fully agree with you.
Garmin platform forever my friend 💪
See you in the next video 👋
Hello there, I'm looking to buy Garmin 255 or this suunto peak pro. For me the most important is the GPS. I will use for my running training. Please help me to choose one.. big hug from Brazil
I definitely throw myself into the “overly in-depth menu system reviews” hahah. Awesome video though Dave, I liked this format! A lot of great points! 🌟
I had a Suunto Spartan Ultra way back in 2018, it had all of the same pros and cons as you report for the latest model. The three button layout I found to be a real problem as you had to use the touch screen functions too often and in wet rainy UK rain jacket sleeves and even rain drops produced unwanted actions on the watch.
Suunto used to have a web browser and for reasons known only to them they decided the future was in apps only, it was a monumentally poorly managed migration, with functionality being removed before it was added and sometimes not added to the new app.
Well made but poorly designed kit.
Great review Thanks Garmin is still king! Nice.
I am interested in a smart watch to track my sleep, indoor running, pool swimming, indoor biking, bodybuilding, Pilates and hart rate in the sauna. I could choose from GARMIN INSTINCT 2X SOLAR TACTICAL (2500 RON), GARMIN FORERUNNER 265 (2500 RON), POLAR GRIT X PRO (2470 RON), SUUNTO 9 PEAK PRO (2400 RON) or COROS VERTIX 47MM - all are kind of the same price in my country. I like the 15 ATM of the COROS VERTIX 47MM and the 10 ATM of the instinct, grit x pro and 9 peak pro compared with the 5 ATM of the forerunner 265. I have no idea which one would suit better my needs. Please help. Thank you!
Great video. Seeing your thumbnail gave me flashbacks of having to pop a blood blister under my nail. 😅
Hope you're going to test the Casio G-Shock DW5600-H. Has square body with heart rate though don't remember if gps.
Not really something I'm interested in but I'll see what I can do!
Im using Suunto 9 Baro, I dont know if its worth to upgrate yet...
Hi!! What would be your suggestion between this watch and Polar Vantage V2 in 2023??
Kinda!
Any other watch you can recommend on the suunto line? Not those randomly shutting down dead like those Garmins.
The Race and Vertical are great but they don’t have the most accurate HR sensor in my testing .
Better late than never 😅 great video tho! I had to return mine because the step count was ridiculous. Got around 200 steps from pooping 😂
Any idea when the suunto 10 will come or any news from polar?
May 9th 10am. Huge news and watch coming. Maps etc.
Ambit 3 Peak was the last great watch they produced. It's been all downhill from there.
Hello, thank you for this video. I want to buy my first premium GPS watch and I'm very hesitant between the suunto 9 peak pro and the garmin fenix 6s pro (the 7 is too expensive for me) I am 50 years old, I practice running, hiking, sometimes mountaineering and a bit of cycling. I am looking for an easy to use and reliable watch. A small one, because of my wrist. And a watch I can use daily even if I do not practise.
I agree on the points you don't like : the size of the bezel even if the watch display 1.2" is the same on other device? It seems on the video that it is not very bright and the colors dull. Is it an impression or not?
how is it at night to check data ?
Then with Garmin I have the impression that there are really too many features that I will never use.
It seems to me that not having a map on the watch is not a handicap given the size of the watch. Do you agree with that ? I would also have liked Suunto to have a website in addition to the smartphone application.
It's very hard to choose because they are very different. I would prefer the Suunto but the points I don't like disturb me. But may be it could just be an impression. And the 6s pro seems to be more complicated.
At the end which watch would you recommend between the suunto 9 PP or Garmin 6s Pro.
Thanks
Between the Fenix 6 and S9PP it's a tough call. The S9PP is newer and has better GPS accuracy along with more battery life. The Fenix 6 has full on mapping, a better ecosystem, and more wellness features. I'd say both are good if you know what you're getting into. Go with which one you find more attractive?
@@ChaseTheSummit Thank you for your answer. I like the suunto. But I have the impression that with garmin we know what to expect. There is everything ! and Suunto is in the future. You have to wait for them with improvements. It's more a bet on the future :). If there are users of the S9PP who are satisfied, I would be happy to hear their comments.
Is the Garmin Forerunner 700 series an option for you?
Personally I like the design and that it is quite small on the wrist.
It is also very durable. The map options might be a problem though
@@bertrandagostini2449 I recently switched from baro9 to p9p and I'm pretty happy. All new features from 9baro (after all updates in last some 5years) are there and even more.
@@dnsmnlbck Thanks for your answer, I prefer the design of the Suunto 9PP, but I will have a look on it.
Waiting New suunot but the pro is a realy good one 👍🏻
Regarding the bezel (sorry, you seem to be getting a lot of heat on this for some reason), how would you say it is relative to my FR955? It has a pretty decent bezel, but doesn’t bother me. But I do hear ya on it being 2023.
Lol yeah, I tend to get heat whenever I share an opinion 😬. The 955 has bezels but they’re definitely thinner than the Suunto 9 peak or at least they appear that way thanks to the design.
@@ChaseTheSummit Well, keep up the great work! Opinions, and all. 😆 Gotta say I’m loving my 955, also loving that I got it mint open box for $300. 👍
I went from Suunto Ambit 3 Peak to Garmin 6X Sapphire. Just because I got tired of Suunto's weird policy. Don't get me wrong, I still like them, but they will have to put a lot of effort on the table to make me return as their customer.
I'm still using Ambit3 Peak and contemplating to buy Suunto 9 series or just move on to Coros /Garmin, they got so much more!
Is it a regulAr smart watch that you can text with?
I loved Suunto until they killed Movescount. I use Runalyze but the lack of a web-based platform from the watch manufactuerer is a no go for me.
You can dive with it to 10 M .i think this is the advantage compared to others..
Most in this price range offer 10ATM water resistance like the COROS Vertix and Garmin Fenix 7
Yeah, that bezel is annoying considering the watch is on the smaller side
Is your suunto 9 peak pro heart rate accurate? Mine is a lot higher than Garmin, which I feel strange…. Garmin heart rate reading is align with my hospital check.
As mentioned in this video it's mostly accurate but there are some weird blips here and there.
What would you recommend more. 9 Peak pro or forerunner 265?
Asking cause in Germany the new Garmin is 50 Euro more expensive than the Sunto. 😢
It depends on what is the main purpose of using it. As a sporttester/training watch f265 would be better. If You want multifunctional durable outdoor watch with training options, go for 9p9.
@@martinchrastny6170 Thank you! Focus is on running training + trailrunning and mountaineering at the weekends. I don't need whats App notifications or something like that on my watch.
Depends, the 265 has better wellness features in my opinion, better HR accuracy in my testing, internal music storage, and of course the AMOLED display.
Suunto 9 Peak Pro has longer battery life, a simpler interface, and maybe a better course creation tool in the app for navigation. It also has a really good altimeter/barometer.
Which features are more important to you?
@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks for this summary: battery life (more than 24h in GPS), navigation and for Mountains the baro are my main needs.
Suunto 9 peak pro in Europe is having good discount online. So lacking of detail map or other things is not a big issue as 9 peak pro is now in a slightly lower market😂
Oddly no discount here in the USA at this moment.
I just paid €287 for the all black - impossible to beat price for a watch in this category
It's still this same price until today, I don't think it's a discount, I think it's the new price.
where can I buy the quick fit bands ? I would like some for my Gaemin Forerunner 965. Please and thank you!!!
Amazon or Garmin direct
I really love this channel/
What green watch are you wearing?
Forerunner 965
:) Definitely not an Fenix 7 at 14:50 :)) but same tech. Enduro 2 is a monster comparing with Suunto.
Yeah, I just grabbed what I thought was a Fenix out of the drawer lol
@@ChaseTheSummit no problem:)
Is that watch touchscreen?
Yup
For that Price Ill go for the FR965, that’s just me.
… and they used to have good web browser interface for computers with the best maps for people who hike outside of tourist trails. I still don’t understand why they demolished it instead improve 😢
That’s a great tool, very upset that they drop it.
Did you go for a pee stop at your route at 6:40?
No comment 😂
I have the most latest garmin epix pro. All i would say it is better than most suunto and other fitness freak watches out in the market in 2023.
Here because Denzel wore this watch in Equalizer 3
Did he? I'll have to look into that lol.
I think the fully carbon compensated aspect is pretty important…with the state of the earth right now, I think more companies really need to start investing in this.
1.2 inchs, 43mm in diameter... why mix imperial and metric? That drives me crazy!
I'm just reading their spec sheet which mixes the two. They typically use imperial for the display size for some reason. Maybe because most American consumers are more familiar with that terminology?
I don’t see any reason I would get this watch. I have the Polar Vantage V2,M1 H9 and H10 sensors, plus my Garmin Edge cycling devices and Rally pedals. I don’t see any additional advantages of getting into Suunto. I have Apple phones and thought about the Ulta iWatch or thought about the Garmin watches but that’s only because they have great user experience. Apple has zero sports testing features that I know about
Natively there's no "sports testing" features but there are thousands of apps out there and I'd assume a couple that do that job.
Now these sell for less than 300euro in EU when they released RACE/VERTICAL watch
But i still love My 9baro blue
If there are 5 Things you don't like about an Watch ⌚ then it's not worth to consider I would say.
Maybe? I was being pretty critical in this video. Trying to point out the things that I personally don't like in my opinion. Thanks for tuning in.
Wow! That's a lot of money for a bezel that takes up at least a quarter of the screen....
Does work Spotify??? Anyone please ?
Nope
Now, year later this watch is $349 and titanium is $399.