Key Cutting Machine | The Framon 2 - The Only Machine That Will Make YOU A Better Locksmith!

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  • @kennethjohnson359
    @kennethjohnson359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My new framon 2 and express coming in today. Been a HPC man for 25 years ready for the change. #lockboss

    • @kennethjohnson359
      @kennethjohnson359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cut keys on the express for a couple of jobs and it is amazing. Tried the framon 2 with a Schlage key for one of the same jobs Measured the original key and the cut key and the code key was a 100%accurate and the factory key wasn’t. Amazing!!

    • @stephenzies8867
      @stephenzies8867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome To The World Of Framon Manufacturing Everything They Make Is Pure Quality

  • @daveaedion
    @daveaedion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have the Framon 2, and it is a very accurate machine. You do not need to calibrate it very often. If I could only have one code machine this is the one I would want. I think it takes a little longer to set up the first cut and change out blocks when changing manufacturers (Kwikset to Schlage, etc) than just inserting a different card into the HPC 1200 but you know if you make a Sargent or Best key with the Framon, it is going to work. #Lockboss

    • @edwardmahoney4074
      @edwardmahoney4074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And if you bend that little needle in the HPC 1200, You're done until you pack it up and ship it back to have it repaired. And yes. I have done it.

    • @AuGold808
      @AuGold808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@edwardmahoney4074 mine needs to be shipped to hpc because of the same reason

  • @andytane4406
    @andytane4406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is definitely the machine I'm going to buy for doing edge keys by code. The Framon #2 doesn't need firmware updates, and will probably never lose it's value. #lockboss

  • @securelk5751
    @securelk5751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I regret not ordering a Framon 2 when I first heard about them a few years ago. I was told about them by someone who lost one out the back of their van and after picking it up out of the road it still worked like a charm. May have a purchase in my future. Thanks for the video. #Lockboss

  • @Pyrolock
    @Pyrolock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Conner gets extra points for putting that in the "fricking" Bloopers, as he is now a super #lockboss We love PJ's "deer in the headlights" thought process...

    • @clksupplies
      @clksupplies  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣 why am I such a natural at bloopers?PJ

    • @WiliamBennettwildarbennett
      @WiliamBennettwildarbennett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@clksupplies gotta love the DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS look when he knows bloopered

  • @stephenzies8867
    @stephenzies8867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frank Agius The Inventor Of Framon Was A Genius Locksmith And Machinist . I Have My Framon # 2 SInce 1994 And Still Going Strong . The Quality Is Amazing.

  • @curlyq1269
    @curlyq1269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ordered a Framon 2 a few days ago. Anxious to get it and start cutting keys! #LockBoss

  • @DoctorHogmaster
    @DoctorHogmaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never knew how much I wanted one of these until now! #LockBoss

  • @bradleybenson13
    @bradleybenson13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s kind of neat seeing on this machine how you really have to dial in your measurements and seems like you definitely have to pay attention more than some other key cutters. #LockBoss

  • @kookita9
    @kookita9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love mechanical machines like this. They are super reliable and accurate. We all love new electronics, but the most reliable are machines are mechanical and lack all the bells and whistles. #lockboss

  • @odinslockllc
    @odinslockllc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s a great machine. My first code cutter machine. It’s easy to get lost with the graduations on the dial so have to learn to take your time but the accuracy is outstanding and your basically “calibrating” it each time you set up your first key. Framon also has one with digital readout if I remember right. Thanks for sharing. #lockboss

  • @cechuck1
    @cechuck1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have used a Framon 2 for years and have never been disappointed. They are Rock solid. A big plus is you can also cut Medeco keys as well. No cards to have to keep up with as well as with the HPC Blitz. Thanks for another great presentation.

  • @MrAmarillo8
    @MrAmarillo8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Started out on the Blitz - someday I'll be a big boy and have a Framon! Good video, PJ! #AccessLockKeyLLC #HaulinBrass #LockBoss

  • @joepalovick1915
    @joepalovick1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m just a hobbyist but have had a Framon2 for several years and love it. #Lockboss

  • @stephentison4117
    @stephentison4117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, PJ!! I didn't realize by already owning one of these great machines made me a #LockBoss!
    I love mine!! I have to travel some really bad back roads to get to different jobs and I can ALWAYS count on my Framon2 to be spot on accurate!! It, in my opinion, is one of the best machines that any locksmith can own!!

  • @willie_mccoy
    @willie_mccoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I LOVE my #2 I watched this video so many times before I got mine. Fantastic machine! 😁

  • @JenkinsLocks
    @JenkinsLocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info for someone like me that doesn't have a code machine yet. What's the cherry on top is seeing all the shavings so it tells me you use this machine a lot. What I think might be even more important is that right now, my first ever topo chico is chilling in the fridge. #LOCKBOSS

    • @clksupplies
      @clksupplies  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did you like the topo?-PJ

    • @JenkinsLocks
      @JenkinsLocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clksupplies It was delicious! My wife is a die hard Perrier drinker...Topo has now been added for auto reorder.

    • @clksupplies
      @clksupplies  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome-PJ

  • @vernondollhopf3249
    @vernondollhopf3249 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video never heard of that machine thank you

  • @willardlocks
    @willardlocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've had a Framon #2 machine for several year, never had any problem's with it. I really like it. #Lockboss

  • @kevinclack
    @kevinclack 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the Framon 2 last week after lots of research as my first code cutting machine. All the keys i've cut so far have been perfect, and its design and function speak to the tinkerer in me! #Lockboss

  • @elstefano2779
    @elstefano2779 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    100% agree with the wider root of cuts. Not only to help make sure the user didn't make any mistakes on spacing, but also to account for how many cheap knock-off companies there are now. Example: Kwikset, Defiant, Gatehouse, Brinks, etc., ALL use a Kwikset key blank....but their spacing isn't ANYWHERE close to being the same! 😂 This allows you to account for cheap manufacturing.

  • @zero8323
    @zero8323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Esa máquina es muy buena, debieron sacar una versión con escala centesimal para el resto del mundo.

  • @theprofessionalhobbyist802
    @theprofessionalhobbyist802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Framon 2 that I picked up used. It's missing some of the accessories but does exactly what I need it to. I like that machine; it's definitely a tough little thing and is pretty easy to calibrate and keep calibrated. The book with the key data has proven extremely useful as well. I think cutting a key on a Blitz is a bit faster, but the Framon 2 is more accurate. Thanks for the video! #Lockboss

  • @Matttkoda
    @Matttkoda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, JP. Now, after watching you explain the strengthens, it makes sense why the Framon 2 is more precise. I also think the user also has more control the making repeatable cuts that are not standard such as a wider root. Sometimes a manual machine where they don't tell you to cut is better than a card. I would personally buy a Framon 2 if I had the money. #LockBoss

  • @jamesestep76
    @jamesestep76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that framon 2 code machine is my kind of machine. Thanks James estep lock n Tennessee. # lockboss. # lockboss

  • @felixmak4727
    @felixmak4727 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Framon 2 is perfect for making different cut depths due to imperfect pins in the kits that are 97% thru 98% accurate prompting you to take on the adjustments down to the thousands respective to the pin measurements, even the HPC Blitz doesn't have it as explicitly.
    EPD - Pin Size = Framon2 Cut Depth.

  • @carllewis2207
    @carllewis2207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks PJ, I’ve always been curious about the Framon. Seems more complicated than my Blitz. # Lockboss

    • @clksupplies
      @clksupplies  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I hope to record a battle soon-PJ

    • @stephenzies8867
      @stephenzies8867 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's like riding a bike .Once you learn you will never forget.

  • @johnfalk6955
    @johnfalk6955 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always been a bit intimidated by what I EXPECTED it to be like using the Framon 2. After seeing you use it now this #LockBoss is more EXCITED to get my hands on one to try it myself. This WILL be on my list of new machines. Thank You once again PJ for helping to share and explain our #LockBoss World.

  • @DJPerret
    @DJPerret 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks like an awesome machine. I love that you can see the actual measurements of the depth and spacing. I can see how some folks might not like the way that works, but to me, that's no kidding what's happening inside the lock, whereas relying on just the #X pin systems for each of the manufacturers is more like depending on some magic numbers. #lockboss

  • @radwigbinonn8131
    @radwigbinonn8131 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm going to need a bigger counter!!I would love to try either one!! #Lockboss

  • @usmcvet9394
    @usmcvet9394 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This will be my next big purchase, been using 1200 for a long time and love it. The Framon is a machine I have always been interested in. Thanks for the video. #Lockboss

  • @zach2763
    @zach2763 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Framon 2 arriving today -- out for delivery as we speak :) After shopping around, the value added by all the extra included accessories (DSD info, dial caliper, Genericode software, extra Medeco cutter, etc.) is excellent. But what really sold me was the responsiveness from Phil at Framon. These are real people that will help you figure it out. In my experience Framon products are well built and non-plastic and just seem to work. If you're in the market for a non-bells & whistles manual code machine, it's worth taking a look at the Framon 2. #Lockboss

  • @joepalovick1915
    @joepalovick1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a hobbyist but have a Framon 2 for several years and love it for the flexibility. #Lockboss

  • @dwiggang4290
    @dwiggang4290 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent illustration of how this "faithful old dog" works. #LockBoss

  • @the_locksmith_life
    @the_locksmith_life 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just have the book and it’s from the 80’s LOL still works great!!! #Lockboss your blocks are so shinny compared to mine😂 never tried making wider I like that!!!! You locked up in the bloopers man you saw me I was a nervous wreck LOL!!!

    • @clksupplies
      @clksupplies  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣 I never realized how goody I was when thinking until Connor started showing the world! -PJ

  • @Mur-lock68
    @Mur-lock68 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Pj
    Stay well #lockboss

  • @edwardmahoney4074
    @edwardmahoney4074 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have always thought it was a great machine. I have never been able to use one because my boss had an HPC Blitz. Now that I started my own business and use a Foley Belsaw 200, witch I can do most anything you can do with a $3000 machine, I am glad to see someone else agrees with me. #lockboss.

  • @jeffmoss26
    @jeffmoss26 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now this is the ultimate #lockboss machine

  • @PocketWomen
    @PocketWomen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video #LockBoss. I always wondered how these machines operated. i had heard many people rave about them. Really apprecaite the quick tutorial on how to operate this tool, Thanks, Oh and Conner thanks for the Bloopers!

  • @kevinkoepke8311
    @kevinkoepke8311 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can tell that Phil's dad was a machinist once.
    Thanks PJ!
    #Lockboss

  • @violentrobot
    @violentrobot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have one, and i love it. i also have an HPC 1200 blitz and it is good too, and can be faster, but when i need to know the keys are perfect, framon 2 is the go-to machine and it's very easy to adjust too, which it never really needs anyway. i'll never sell mine. #lockboss

  • @curley6531
    @curley6531 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    pj another great video. so glad you show different machines! helps when deciding what to get. framon i think will be mine. thanks #lockboss

  • @thomasrucker662
    @thomasrucker662 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never seen a Framon key machine in action before. I admit it looks intimidating , thanks to your video it's not intimidating anymore.#Lockboss

  • @kevin.gadgeteastman7531
    @kevin.gadgeteastman7531 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow that this is great that thig is strong and simple with great ingenuity backing it up 🤘🏆#Lockboss

  • @frankmulcahy2605
    @frankmulcahy2605 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never had the chance to operate the Framon 2 Key Cutting Machine. Looks like a nice machine #Lockboss. V/r, Father Frank

  • @a2ylock284
    @a2ylock284 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Precious information PJ. Precise and accurate cuts makes a great #Lockboss

  • @ImGumbyDangit
    @ImGumbyDangit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🌵🇨🇦 I have both a Fra2 and a 1200, and I definitely use my Fra2 more. As a hobbiest, I go more for accuracy than speed, but I can see and understand people that cut keys for a living may prefer the 1200 for speed. I have never thought about widening out the root. The FC8445 is 84° while a Schlage is 100° with a root of .031. would you go from (for example) .216 to .246 on your first cut? #LockBoss 🇨🇦🌵 Someone get this man a Teleprompter, and don't put this in the bloopers.

  • @santiagocarranza6750
    @santiagocarranza6750 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video pj. I love the framon 2 great machine. #LockBoss

  • @unoleagotiya5583
    @unoleagotiya5583 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Living legend"😂😂😂😂😂
    Nice machine!! I'm gonna keep it in mind for when I can get a code machine! #lockboss

  • @williamc2553
    @williamc2553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Informative and a good sales pitch! #lockboss

  • @bestrafer38
    @bestrafer38 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video ,looking forward to more in the series, i have an FRA #2 and love it.#LockBoss

  • @WiliamBennettwildarbennett
    @WiliamBennettwildarbennett 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok so this is in affect an #LOCKBOSS Miniaturized Milling machine . It is very similar in function to a 1940's era US NAVY SURPLUS WARREN & SWASSEY TURRET LATHE, that I used 30 years ago as a machinist. Great Job on the description too.

  • @leetalar4167
    @leetalar4167 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice machine, enjoyed the podcast and giveaway show#Lockboss

  • @georgeblair7129
    @georgeblair7129 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once you use it long enough, you'll never forget space and depth info for those most common keys. #lockboss

  • @bobbykendrick2426
    @bobbykendrick2426 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like a really nice machine and simple enough that I think I could use it. Thanks PJ for another great video
    #Lockboss

  • @steveschmidt7140
    @steveschmidt7140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, looks like a very good and simple to understand machine, #lockboss

  • @adammorris8112
    @adammorris8112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting design, it makes the machine more flexible (assuming you can find an appropriate spacing block).
    #lockboss

    • @clksupplies
      @clksupplies  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      U could use withou-PJ

  • @gerardthomas9023
    @gerardthomas9023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is one impressive machine #LockBoss

  • @adamtaylor976
    @adamtaylor976 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m with you! I like the Framon! #Lockboss

  • @kevinbacon5142
    @kevinbacon5142 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, a great video, PJ. I see the advantage of learning the spaces and depths, but...man... this #lockboss just really likes his NEW Blitz 1200 that I just bought from CLK!!

    • @clksupplies
      @clksupplies  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heck yes! Thanks Kevin-PJ

  • @Chirael
    @Chirael 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video PJ, I’ve wanted to learn more about this machine ever since I heard of it, especially since a lot of #lockboss folks love them; thanks for doing this!

    • @Chirael
      @Chirael 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Don’t put this in the freakin’ bloopers” lol 🤣

  • @butterbeans898
    @butterbeans898 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Framon 2 great machine #lockboss

  • @Phred_Phlintstoner
    @Phred_Phlintstoner 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have never had the chance to check out one of these yet. So far I've only used an old hpc. Looks like a great machine! #lockboss

  • @Steel-Pinnings
    @Steel-Pinnings 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have heard of the "LIVING LEGEND" But never used one. And now I really really want to use one. 😆
    Thanks for sharing.
    #lockboss

  • @Pyrolock
    @Pyrolock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Framon II IS the #lockboss of key machines. If you know and understand how to use the Framon II, you are a REAL #lockboss

  • @MrSuperchargedv8
    @MrSuperchargedv8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For an auto shop that wants to also provide keys what machines on the market are suitable? do you maybe have a video that list maybe what someone would need to start up?

  • @kimnilsson7501
    @kimnilsson7501 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dial in 55154 and select correct key card then send and press start (Silca Unocode)

  • @seanbaker3185
    @seanbaker3185 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    #Lockboss Going to be ordering this soon. That's a lot of product, and quality in that price range

  • @-DJ234
    @-DJ234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like a very well thought out and put together machine. If I'm ever in the market for a new machine I'll definitely give the Framon serious consideration. #Lockboss

  • @philherman5209
    @philherman5209 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and demonstration PJ. It sounds like a Framon 2 is a must have. #LockBoss

  • @curtolocknkey
    @curtolocknkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my Framon #2 machine. #Lockboss

  • @groverthetoecutter7874
    @groverthetoecutter7874 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video pj, #lockboss

  • @fillup40
    @fillup40 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A machine worth it s weight in n gold.

  • @glenntrav
    @glenntrav ปีที่แล้ว

    #Lockboss Thanks for a great video. This is a very interesting machine especially since it appears to work so well and it is at a bit of a budget price.

  • @choadstool
    @choadstool 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    just financed one of these bad chickens, cant wait to use it!!
    #Lockboss

  • @mitchellmay34
    @mitchellmay34 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow.... I should have started with one of these! #Lockboss

  • @WebOfPins
    @WebOfPins 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    anything can make me better #LockBoss

  • @Outshined84
    @Outshined84 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That really looks like a great machine. #LockBoss

  • @unclejc574
    @unclejc574 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Great machine. #Lockboss

  • @63flight
    @63flight 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a solid machine. 👍 #lockboss

  • @KozelkaPD
    @KozelkaPD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my framon! #lockboss

  • @gustavoaltube3353
    @gustavoaltube3353 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video pj, definitely is the legend! They got you good with the bloopers this time. #Lockboss

  • @adrian120708
    @adrian120708 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice machine #lockboss

  • @vernondollhopf3249
    @vernondollhopf3249 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video never heard of that machine #lockboss

  • @williamgauna4617
    @williamgauna4617 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have the original and it is amazing #lockboss

  • @josephleonard7880
    @josephleonard7880 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video can't wait to get a framon 2 #lockboss

  • @51-FS
    @51-FS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice key cutter #lockboss

  • @bobbykoontz6206
    @bobbykoontz6206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my Framon #2 and G code. #lockboss

  • @wireworks616
    @wireworks616 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Started out with Framon. Works ok but doesn't stand the test of time, broke down after 4 years. HPC 1200 is the way to go

  • @bearsback5099
    @bearsback5099 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool my friend. #Lockboss

  • @gantry289
    @gantry289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like quite the machine! #lockboss

  • @bobbykoontz6206
    @bobbykoontz6206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You HAVE to widen the cuts for a KW1 with Kwikset pins. #lockboss

    • @Pyrolock
      @Pyrolock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or use a wider cutter for Kwikset

  • @lmars5933
    @lmars5933 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review my friend. Seems like a great MACHINE let's ask the lock FATHER lol thanks for the video..#LOCKBOSS 😎

  • @buz375
    @buz375 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great machine. #lockboss

  • @aleksa52
    @aleksa52 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great machine, have 3 of them in my bag. #lockboss

  • @bobbykoontz6206
    @bobbykoontz6206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's so easy to use. #lockboss

  • @alancorson5778
    @alancorson5778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool machine #lockboss

  • @froggypicker
    @froggypicker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genetic true code machine with geneticode? Amazing i went to framon site during the live yesterday and it looked very good. This longevity is a testament to the good engineering.
    I wished you could do an extended take with angles cut keys ala medeco but i assume it's 'just' a different jaw that tilt the key.
    #Lockboss

    • @theprofessionalhobbyist802
      @theprofessionalhobbyist802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can angle the cutting wheel to do angled cuts. No different jaw required.

    • @froggypicker
      @froggypicker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theprofessionalhobbyist802 thanks for the answer!

  • @shawnfinger5287
    @shawnfinger5287 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have heard amazing stories about accidents that happen to these machines, and they cut perfect keys (without needing to be calibrated). I have a 1200cmb, i have been curious about these for some time, i hope to get a chance to demo one sometime and see for myself. I have a terrible memory, so the 1200 may be better suited for me, but i may surprise myself? #lockboss

  • @turn-a-keylocksmith4411
    @turn-a-keylocksmith4411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice machine but I’m all about speed when in the field. I feel like I would loose the spacing blocks somewhere rolling around in the vans. That’s a good machine I’m sure but you would get faster with it over time.
    #lockboss

    • @violentrobot
      @violentrobot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      there's a few small tricks to speed things up a little. for example, in this case PJ could have cut all the 5's at once, then went back for the 1 and 4 cuts. it will never be as fast as an HPC 1200 or a robot machine, but it's way more reliable and way easier to calibrate (if it ever needs it), so you know your keys will be perfect even if you aren't near the lock when you cut them.
      and you can cut without the spacing blocks, because you also have the measurements for spacing too, but that will slow you down a little more. #lockboss

    • @clksupplies
      @clksupplies  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      💯-PJ