@@ergoproxy9327 he's right kimmy is mixed damage but not on physical attack just with first skill.Imagine if kimmy doesn't have first skill theres no mixed damage.
he came to the land of dawn to save it from the abyss i heard that his world was coming to an end or was ending so he went to the land of dawn and use his experiments to save anyone who needs his help
Because the other player will reject the pause since it's holding them from playing and no one knows how long you are going to pause. Developer actually develop this system to prevent other trolling other players from playing
@[Just Ignore Me] "They can't seem to care" are actually one of the worst answer to be. Beside I think you seems having some problem for understanding, did you?
Regarding about "He says theory of everything but can he explain parents why can't we pause online games?" Obviously he can since theory of everything are a foundation of Philosophical Knowledge that study about question of origin such as cause and result. And with him understanding the Theory of Everything he will able to explain which comes like my first explanation
@@angeloareniego3615 It's not, am I wrong? if yes lol, i didn't know srry that's just what I thought it is because it's what I hear in youtube videos about space holes.
@@dipsithecreeper Meh. The build should be increase his physical attack since his main attribute for basic attack and skill better from physical attack. Demon Shoes / Arcane Boots Berserker Fury Scarlet Phantom / Wind Talker Blade of Despair Concentrate Energy (You can't use Physical Lifesteal) Divine Glaive (You can't use Physical Penetration) Divine Glaive can be replaced with Enchanted Talisman if there is no enemy that use Athena Shield for 20% CDR for faster Ultimate and better maintaining your stack
I feel like flickering behind an enemy while your under tower then using s2 to push them in is gonna become meta. Or pushing them into say Tigreals ult as he's one of the most common tanks.
makes sense i guess, kimmy at launch was OP with Phy items, and meh with mage. Also she was early game monster. So well, it kinda makes sense if you compare launch version of the two hereos
@@kuyadong6791 One new hero on Advanced Server was named Protti but eventually they changed it to Brody. I'm not sure if they will change Natan's name but its likely.
@@SoloLevellor Uhhh Natalia's don't just stand there when they hit marksmen. They constantly use passive attack and 1st skill to escape and poke you. So yeah, can't use 2nd skill if you're dead
I think they should lessen the damage and range of his 2nd skill and make its CD reset instantly whenever he enters the portal from his ult. His combo would then be ULT -> 2nd skill -> enter portal -> basic atk and/or 1st skill -> 2nd skill -> enter portal -> basic atk or 1st skill and so on. This ensures that the enemy will be locked down (going back and forth in time) but also the execution of this combo would be extremely hard and risky making it balanced.
@@Chrono_topher A lot of people prefer relying on his assassin side and goes for full burst ultimate + first. His atk speed bonus then is just a bonus and isnt really his core damage.
@@SoloLevellor yve is op but not everyone can play well Gloo is annoying as fuငk Maybe sometimes when my team is heavy dash they ban phoevous Other then that yea
Gloo is hard to kill af in late game with full build he can delete a mm even though he's a tank plus if gloo gets attached to u u cannot attack him only ur allies does
Attack Speed/Passive like Miya Clone like Sun 1st skill like Yve (but slower) 1st and 2nd skill like Vale combo (small cyclone, and 1st skill to finish) Teleport? like Luo Yi
"The enemy can't possibly read my moves if I don't know what I'm doing either"
-all the new natan mains probably
Hell yeah like wtf is his ulti
Ahahhahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣 it's the best comment i've ever read this day
Same here but for every hero I just spam and get kill some how idk??😅😅😎
Same goes for beatrix 🤣🤣
Say that to Beatrix
Natan when using his second skill to his enemies: *Y E E T*
Lmao
Ya yeet
Natan to Chang'e's 1st skill: *Me a thief? Heh no no no I'm only borrowing this*
Y E E T
What I like on natan is his second skill, if someone’s chasing you like zilong you just push him away. Then zilong break his ribs.
hororo: natan is the new official real magic mm
kimmy: confused screaming
Kimmy physical basic attack
@@DanielRamadhan89 nah Kimmy is mixed damage Marksman.
Kimmy is a hybrid marksman and Nathan is a pure mage marksman.
@一護 Kᴜʀᴏsᴀᴋɪ and your point is? That is why I called Kimmy a mixed damage marksman because she doesn't only deal physical atk damage.
@@ergoproxy9327 he's right kimmy is mixed damage but not on physical attack just with first skill.Imagine if kimmy doesn't have first skill theres no mixed damage.
POV: *you get hit by natan's second skill*
Phoveus: Thanks for the kills
"What are you?"
"A magic marksman"
"Does that make you 2x squishier?"
But it makes 2x stronger damage
!!!TRADE OFFER!!!
*I receive no defense*
*You receive insane damage*
😂
Wait how about kimmy??
@@As-Th0m she is a balance betwenn marksmen and mage
He's a freaking quantum physicist, coming to land of dawn to test his findings
Lol
No he's a time traveler
he came to the land of dawn to save it from the abyss i heard that his world was coming to an end or was ending so he went to the land of dawn and use his experiments to save anyone who needs his help
@@noodlezgaming6836 o0loo0looo MO o
Hororo: "Natan is the REAL magic marksman"
Kimmy: "Why do you have to hurt me this way??"
BUT NOT CONTINUES DAMAGE
@@mrfact03s what
@@mrfact03s stupid af he has no magic dmg '_'
Bro I can't find PRACTICE mode in custom on advance server
@@unrelateduniverse6433 oh yeah maybe, you can touch "practice" in a hero you want to try
"Magic marksman"
Estes: Hello my friend
LMAOOOOO
Kimmy:😶
Lmaoo my estes is assasin
@@howugontreatme kimmy is not fully magic
Her basic attack without skill 1 is still physical
Hellow
"You can also push them through walls"
Me: I feel a nerf coming
The second skill is legit should be called "stop chasing me or get yeeted"
*Y E E T*
It’s kinda similar to Phoveus’ 2nd skill
Natan 🤝 Valir
*using a 2nd skill that makes the enemy goes gtfo*
@@Todioka *I CANT-*
Black hole
Kimmy: Who are you?
Natan: I'm you but cooler.
Yeah
IM THE BROTHER OF GUSION
Natan the cooler daniel
@@Zero-xs5sw is he the brother of gusion?tbh i thought he would look like in the survey but no
@@ashranash7838 yeah but they changed it to different one the survey is gusion brother its this IM SO SAD
9:19 "kimmy cryes in tears"
Passive: "Theory of everything"
Me a geometry dash player: "Hoo Lee Sheet"
Whahaah
Finally
Lee
Yeah and there's also Theory of Everything 2
Haha lmao same
"Natan passive existed"
Miya passive : "finally a worthy opponent , our battle shall be legendary"
Miya using ultimate and appearing out of nowhere to 3 shot you is giving me vibes here for Natan
Ehem. What is it?
@Chang'e Gaming miya passive already rework tho, now its giving shadow miya
it's actually more similiar to martis's passive
@@gerylrevaldi5227ye but miya has a shadow
hororo: “now we have an official mage marksman!”
kimmy: “i’m just an illusion”
not funny try harder
@@dankshadow5665 it wasnt for ur entertainment so go continue scrolling down luv
Kim.y is justphysical mm
@@minecraftplayer8974 think again
@@minecraftplayer8974 *both
"the real magic marksman"
Hybrid Nana: *am i a joke to you?*
Nuh thats THE BASICS
Nana hits pretty hard tho
Kimmy : Then what I am ?
But nana using physical item tho
Friendship now ended with Kimmy. Now, Natan is my new friend.
Kimmy is mine !
Feel you brooo
After smashing Kimmy, let's smash Natan.
Bruhhhh
Haha
Thanks Hororo, lately I've been seeing and learning a lot from your posts. It's all exciting and you put so much efforts in it. Thanks again!
Moonton: So what hero you wanna be similar with
Natan: Y E S
Moonton So what hero you wanna be similar with
Me:I-
Natan: YES
Natan similiar to who?
@@Priapus_GodOfFertility yve
Jawhead: "finally, a worthy partner for trolling"
Luo yi : Lets do guys
Well you can just buy the anti jawhead throwing potion :|
Probably the most insane pick, of lou yi, natan, jawhead ? Who esle ?
Ooh I know troll Guinevere or help your team because of his 2 skill
@@jwander2696 grock
Natan spells the same backwards just like TENET.
His ulti really be like tenet tho loll
i've been seeing tenet comments who/what is tenet?
@@o-o4577 Its a movie.
It’s called a palindrome.
Hororo: Our first official magic marksman is here!
Kimmy: *Sad Noises*
Its *pure* magic marksman does kimmy basic attack deal magic damage like he does? No right 🙂
Kimmy is half phy. And mag.
Natan is pure magic
Another squishy for the assassins.
@@edd112e Boom, Kimmy roasted
Kimmy is hybrid
Basically he is Stephen Hawking. I love the name of his passive and skills.
Same. I love its nerdy vibe of a name
Neeeerd
Stephen Hawking can walk?
@@averagegameenjoyer797 Before he got his condition and died.
In Brazil it will be called José Pinto
He says theory of everything but can he explain parents why can't we pause online games?
Because the other player will reject the pause since it's holding them from playing and no one knows how long you are going to pause. Developer actually develop this system to prevent other trolling other players from playing
The rhetorical to end all rhetorics.
@[Just Ignore Me] yeah but he doesn't know the meaning of theory
@[Just Ignore Me] "They can't seem to care" are actually one of the worst answer to be. Beside I think you seems having some problem for understanding, did you?
Regarding about "He says theory of everything but can he explain parents why can't we pause online games?" Obviously he can since theory of everything are a foundation of Philosophical Knowledge that study about question of origin such as cause and result. And with him understanding the Theory of Everything he will able to explain which comes like my first explanation
His second skill is so cool that can easily make enemies confused
Pretty cool. But I can't help but think that it also looked like a ripped off of Vexana's first skill, which is a pretty unique cc in the game.
In nutshell, his Natan's 2nd skill is called _follow da balls_
And also Helps Phoveus
Me too I'm confused
@@bryll7784 I think it's Vexana's first skill but on crack. 😅
Hororo: We now have an official hero as magic marksman
Kimmy in the corner: Am I a joke to you?
kimmy basic attack doesnt deal magic damage lol its her skill while natan basic attack deal magic damage
Kimmy's Magic basic attack relies on her 1st Skill, Natan uses BASIC ATTACK to deal Magic Dmg.
@@hollywooddd7963 It does if you use Feathers of magic although the attack speed will be of no use.
@@virgo5211 magic dmg can be triggered by any marksman if he has this item and windtalker
@@pranjitnarzary1419 Agree.
I'm pretty impressed by how Moonton designed his skills. That black hole and white hole is pretty accurate to what models we have now.
White whole? Auto correct screen keyboard?
@@angeloareniego3615 It's not, am I wrong? if yes lol, i didn't know srry that's just what I thought it is because it's what I hear in youtube videos about space holes.
@@angeloareniego3615 there are white holes toi, black holes pull in and white holes push, though white holes are still just a theory.
Ceetainly Not!, It's proven fact
i wish dev copied enigma ultimate skill with that kind of blackhole animation. natan suited to be a mage instead marksman too. he remind me of gord.
Feather of Heaven: My time has come.
Yes, a lot of mage don't use that.
Imo he should be built with phys dmg because of 100% scaling on basic attack
He doesn't need that
@@dipsithecreeper Meh. The build should be increase his physical attack since his main attribute for basic attack and skill better from physical attack.
Demon Shoes / Arcane Boots
Berserker Fury
Scarlet Phantom / Wind Talker
Blade of Despair
Concentrate Energy (You can't use Physical Lifesteal)
Divine Glaive (You can't use Physical Penetration)
Divine Glaive can be replaced with Enchanted Talisman if there is no enemy that use Athena Shield for 20% CDR for faster Ultimate and better maintaining your stack
Harith: i need you ❤️
Kimmy be like: Finally! A magic marksman like me😍
Yeah
But i build phisical
I think this one is magic damage in basic attack ... Ang skills unlike Kimmy
Maybe its one of Kimmy's relatives
Kimmy basic attack still physical not magic damage and this marksman is magic damage
Kimmy: Look at me Papa!
Natan: That's cute
Wait, that’s a good correlation.
Imagine trying to chase an enemy and then you accidentally used second skill. Enemy thanked us for that
Yeet those people
Oh god phoveus and him will be best friends
imagine enemy is so low health
No it also help u escaping from enemy
I feel like flickering behind an enemy while your under tower then using s2 to push them in is gonna become meta. Or pushing them into say Tigreals ult as he's one of the most common tanks.
Hororo: nattan the real magic mm
Kimmie: am i joke to you?
kimmy is half magic mm
natan is pure magic tho
@@andrebieber3yearsago655 dude chill out just a joke bro
The closest to pure magic mm is Harley with physical build
Moonton: Jokes on you
"Theory of Everything"
geometry dash players be like:
well anyways his passive
is almost the same as estes
and we all know what estes bug is
Trueee
Wait, what bug?
is there any bug on estes?
TRUE TOE
@@Mewmero I didn't think i would see a fellow geometrian :DD
*_More new heroes released, lower chance of Faramis getting a skin..._*
Even the company knows he needs a skin cause they made a joke about it
:)
Lol
Kadita join the group.
yezz..maybe moonton is planning to give him a skin after he revamped or buff
"our official first magic marksman is here!"
kimmy: *:(*
I felt offended so much...
Sadge Kimmy
Heheh
Kimmy is kinda a hybrid MM tho.. but idk.. but natan ability is indeed for magic marksman.
makes sense i guess, kimmy at launch was OP with Phy items, and meh with mage. Also she was early game monster.
So well, it kinda makes sense if you compare launch version of the two hereos
Hororo: The REAL magic marksman
Crit build Chang'e: Am i a joke to you
omg yes i love crit chang'e
yes you are
Yall forgot zhask
Everyone is making up builds but what about mommy bruhh
I can already feel how annoying that 2nd skill gonna be for fighters and tank
Mage for early game..
MM for late game..
So which one are you???
Natan:👁️👄👁️
BOTH
Good job on getting a spot on trending for gaming!
I need to know what the developers were smoking when they made this character.
I think they high 😂 the hero is soooooo creepy
they be smoking the good stuff dou
Moniyan Empire weed
@@AWildRaito That's LEGIT😌
They smoke and play geometry dash..
Nathan passive have exact Name as geometry dash
With little galaxy theme, portal, mirror move, and teleport
remember when people thought natan was dr rooney
Natan could just be his first name
@@brandondunn6345 natan rooney
Nope its gusion brother i think HES big brother
maybe his name is natan rooney. Also makes sense that he is dr rooney cause he looks as if he studies the universe and invents stuff
@@Zero-xs5sw its not gusions brother
Enemy: *chases Natan*
Natan: *activates second skill*
Enemy: bye~~
Fk this sht I’m out
Phoveus and Natan walks calmly during a clash while their teammates are dying. 😌
What about Aurora ?
@@rojikakoli288 oh, yeah. Let's not forget the queen of catwalks in the land of dawn.
*And some of us thought it was Dr. Rooney when the survey came out*
Remember me everyone.
Cuz I already predict they'll change his name to Nathan soon.
And your basis for calling him so?
I think I know you?
Lol I have met you before u had a ling in it pfp😂I see you everywhere
@@kuyadong6791 One new hero on Advanced Server was named Protti but eventually they changed it to Brody. I'm not sure if they will change Natan's name but its likely.
That hero is soo cool, the skill effects looks like a collector skin effects more like Dr strange
I think the effect of that skill is from granger legendary skin 😏
Martis: Hey that's my passive, only one second longer
And more stacks ? Bruh martis need a new passive
@@Wuhaboo Yep
Lol
@@Wuhaboo He does. Its great for pushing but thats about it
@@fabianp.2986 Marti's deals ALOT of damage with berserker and phantom so...pls don't change his passive TwT
Nobody:
Not a single soul:
Natan: Gravity is a harness. I have harnessed the harness!
his second skill drags enemies away from him, perfect for retreating
YEET
YEET(2)
YEET(3)
YEET (3)
YEET(4)
This is one of the coolest & the most hardest looking heroes. That Ultimate is messing with my brain.
It's easy hero lol.. just a skill spammer
@@damara2268 yeah but if u don't understand it clearly u might be put on a dangerous situation
Phoveus: finally! A worthy friend!!
Our friendship will be forever!!!!
Natan : "The real magic marksman"
Kimmy : *So basically I am a mage*
half mage ....
half marksman ....
half no one pick her since last season ....
She is hybrid though this new hero is PURE magic. Please educate yourself.
Moonton Dev: **sees a yo-yo**
Dev: *YES. That’s our new hero.*
his skills icon and effects already look like legend skin can’t wait for his upcoming skins
YESSS
"Theory of everything" reminds me of an official geometry dash level called "Theory of everything" just sayin 😅
Me too
Lol
I was looking for this
Me to xD
I'm about to say it but you said it first LUL
Natan gives me the Camille Vibe From Wildrift because of its walk animation
for real XD
Idk if they will change it because its still unfinished or keep it
MY GUY YUP I CANT UNSEE IT NOW I ALREADY UNSEE NOW I CANTTT
And his hair remind me abit of master yi's skin
@@timmie7404 how about vale?
4:48 Natan: Reality is a harness, i have hernessed the harness
Hororo: Our new official magic marksman
Kimmy: I'm a genius
Natan: Well, let see about that
Natan: Another Marksman
Natalia: hehe boy...
Natan: *uses second skill
Hehe boi
BOI
@@SoloLevellor Uhhh Natalia's don't just stand there when they hit marksmen. They constantly use passive attack and 1st skill to escape and poke you. So yeah, can't use 2nd skill if you're dead
Natan x Natalia = Natanlia
I think they should lessen the damage and range of his 2nd skill and make its CD reset instantly whenever he enters the portal from his ult. His combo would then be ULT -> 2nd skill -> enter portal -> basic atk and/or 1st skill -> 2nd skill -> enter portal -> basic atk or 1st skill and so on. This ensures that the enemy will be locked down (going back and forth in time) but also the execution of this combo would be extremely hard and risky making it balanced.
I was hoping to see the enemy view when he uses his ulti, to see if the clone is identical to natan or just a yellow phantom
Just when I switched from being an ADC main to a mage main Montoon gives me the best of both worlds
what's an adc?
@@adam_nsrddn adc usually means “Attack Damage Carry” meaning marksmen
@@CrimZun I thought it was ADR
@@CrimZun ain't marksmans "Attack Damage Range"?
@@CrimZun ouh thanks for the info
WOAH! CAN'T WAIT!
Natan second skill when meet more enemies.. *earrape intensifies*
Wow natan i thought natalia
@@Zero-xs5sw i think its natalia's long lost brother Lol
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JK
Natan VS Gloo
Ear: yamete
Skill 2 hc to :(
Physical defense heroes: "Mr. Moonton, I don't feel so good.."
Enemy: I can't dash
Natan: Here you go.
Gord: Do you guys still remember me? Im the cool dude with space board.
No one need Gord, he is useless
Sry x'D
@@yath0tgod419 Bruh, hes literally, strong, and hes useful at team fights, maybe you just dont know how to use him
@@zenki3794 he is strong but can easily be countered, that’s why he’s not in the meta right now
@@yath0tgod419 if you are not expert to use him he is really useless to you but if you meet a top global Gord. Sure you will cry a lot
@@shannjoo7850 yeh, hes kinda useless, but not really
Kimmy: „you took everything from me“
Natan: „ I don’t even know who you are“
HEHE
Nice one.
Someone: TENET is so cool!
Moonton: hold my beer..
Exactly my mind when see his ulti
What is tenet
@@norazmaabhamid4122 its a movie
Thanks
@@norazmaabhamid4122 np bro
"We now have a official hero as magic marksman"
Kimmy: Why are we still here.. just to suffer?
Nana and Estest: Official suits us more
My bp is already ready for this just waiting to buy him
But not for me😩😭
He's in July
Im not ready yet, my bp is like 18000+ 😩😩
(the fact that i put 18000+ is really sus numbers, sorry)
nerf bye
My bp is 22000 need to collect more
I HOPE YOU GUYS LOVE MY ARGUS GAMEPLAY 🔥🔥🔥
He looks fancy, his accent should be like guin
Ikr! And it will be a shiiiiiip
Yeah!
Yuhhhhh it would be a ship if his accent would be like guins!!!
Granger crying in the corner
"I say, You're quite arrogant if you think you can surpass my magic"
"Sun and Miya combain"
My brain just go : monke with shooting magic
mmyes, monke
May BRAIN LOST BRAINCEL AFTER THIS HERO
@@ojousapostlepoyoyo5thapost400 hehehehe monke
yes, kinda sun's son too
monkeh's monkeh
Sun and miya, i think we already have claude
U have custom practice mode? In advance server?
I miss the "new hero vs all mm,mage etc." Episode..
Same
Hmm
Magic Marksman? That sounds like Zhask with extra steps
A fellow gentleman of culture
Interesting, can’t wait to buy him
Finally a hero that will use the full potential of the heaven's feather
Zhask? Hahahaha
Can’t Harley used it too? Since he’s the closest ti a hybrid marksman/mage
Harley, Esmeralda, Guinevere is right there
nope, it's scaling is physical
@@Chrono_topher A lot of people prefer relying on his assassin side and goes for full burst ultimate + first. His atk speed bonus then is just a bonus and isnt really his core damage.
"sniff..sniff", eww whats that smell, oh of course, new hero about to get on the ban list on literally every single rank game.
Makes you go crazy
@@SoloLevellor yeah because they don't know how to play them or they don't give a damm
@@SoloLevellor yve is op but not everyone can play well
Gloo is annoying as fuငk
Maybe sometimes when my team is heavy dash they ban phoevous
Other then that yea
Gloo is hard to kill af in late game with full build he can delete a mm even though he's a tank plus if gloo gets attached to u u cannot attack him only ur allies does
@@itzeychaeryeong3889 yup but
Now that people know how to counter him by abusing his ult
Gloo seems like a fair trade
A worth buying mage Marksman.... Cant wait for it....😍😍
"Your name backwards is how you die"
"Hannah"
"Natan"
Lol
I used marksman Harley it was op can't Imagine how op this one will be
lol it can't be 😆😱
Harley as a marksman? Give build pls
@@udayal-hazmi996hororo chan already did a video about that
Harley is better as mage than marksman though
@@xfurious4692 yea but u can take feather to become hybrid
Attack Speed/Passive like Miya
Clone like Sun
1st skill like Yve (but slower)
1st and 2nd skill like Vale combo
(small cyclone, and 1st skill to finish)
Teleport? like Luo Yi
Finally, The magic marksman I've been waiting for 🤩🤩🤩
*kimmy is typing*
@@Trustingwhatyousee but kimmy is not pure magic mm
@@markjovenbueno5068 yeh hahaha
Harley should get revenge for not becoming the first mage/ mm
I'm waiting for the Marksman/Tank role hero.
@Rheian Mahfud Swift Just Kupa
Layla:
a tonk which shoots stuff but is incredibly immobile
@@nk-randomcommenter3881 ehh kupa is not really a marksman isn't he lol
Layla Tank wins
Yey! Finally another marksman with magic damage🤩
Harley and Kimmy: Finally a worthy opponent!
Lol
New and revamped heroes: come see our weird walk
:(
Wow! At first I really thought Natan is an Assassin or Mage with Magic Damage. His skill effects are dope! So excited to use him.
Finally I can take a Mage with mm build without getting reported
Kimmy can be used with mm build too
next we gonna get tank marks
me:"wait we have tank marksman already"
layla?
Wouldnt feather of heaven (and maybe calamity reaper) work on Natan? Also getting something other than blade of despair?
Edit: fixed spelling error
I feel like natan and kimmy knows each other, just thinking
@Kieljandrei just saying
This is the worst name mlbb give 😌
@@lordtea your Grammar bro
@@lordtea wtf are u saying Natan is a pretty decent name
@@cyrusdesuu true
When I think about magic marksman, I think about MM Estes.
MM RAFAELA :)))
No... rafaela cant be mm because her basic dmg and att spd is low
Try Nana..
If use the skill on buf does the attack speed increase? Like Claude
His 1st skill reminds me of jhin 3rd skill "captive audience"
But it just common aoe skill, even old valir has it,
Btw isn't jhin 3rd skill can trap enemy on it?
@@Sofyan_Dikha yeah its like a ward type thing
Only slow I think u need to hit it with 2nd skill to root
And natan ult reminds me of Leblanc
I think the OP means how both skills explode into flower-shaped AoE attack.
The mm and mage main be like: this is important im going to buy with my life
his skills are weird, no escape/blink skill except flicker, looks weak just like layla, not worthy in high rank
@@PecanduNarMOBA it means u need a good tank to protect u i guess
@@PecanduNarMOBA I see a flag up ahead in the future for you
4:48
Both to eachother
'Hello'😂
By looking at the thumbnail I thought it would be vale's new skin-
Loll