The smallest standard gauge engine? Courage, the littlest Hunslet. Lawrie Goes Loco Episode 22.

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
  • Hello everyone,
    Today I get to take out simply one of the mightiest locomotives I've ever seen. Will I be able to handle the raw power that this thing produces?
    --- Content of this video ---
    00:00 Intro
    01:01 History the Middleton Railway,
    04:15 Introducing Courage,
    12:13 Looking at the controls,
    15:07 Preparation work,
    22:37 Attempting to hand start,
    29:31 What's Courage like to Drive,
    43:55 Outro,
    Like many other railways, the Middleton railway has been hit hard during these strange times, and needs your help to survive, if you've enjoyed what you've seen in the video and want to help the railway, please have a look at the link here:
    www.gofundme.com/f/covid19-sa...
    A massive thank you to the Middleton Railway for inviting me to review Courage, if we you want to find out more about the railway, have a look here:
    www.middletonrailway.org.uk/
    If you have really enjoyed the video and would like to volunteer at the railway, have a look here - they really are a lovely bunch of people who would love for you to get involved: www.middletonrailway.org.uk/i...
    All photos used in the video are used with permission from their respective owners,
    Ian Smith,
    Ian Dobson,
    Derek Plummer,
    David Hebden,
    MRT Archive
    Thank you to you all.
    All movements in our railway videos are discussed with the operating staff prior to any such movement taking place.
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    Lawrie - Presenter, overjoyed to be driving something smaller than his own locomotive!
    Morgan - Cameraman, in his first ever visit to a Heritage Railway!
    A video edited by Lawrie
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  • @hawkerhellfire9152
    @hawkerhellfire9152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    You can really see why it internal combustion on the rails didn't catch on until the starter motor became common. I'd much rather put a fire in a steam engine and wait a few hours than have to start that Medieval piece of torture equipment.

    • @ach3909
      @ach3909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's a tossup between starting a diesel or shoveling coal into the firebox every 2 minutes.

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ach3909 It's absolutely completely *bonkers*

    • @o.m.b.demolitionenterprise5398
      @o.m.b.demolitionenterprise5398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PreservationEnthusiast *bonkers*

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@o.m.b.demolitionenterprise5398 It's totally fantastic. It's absolutely completely totally *bonkers*

    • @robertstaines7907
      @robertstaines7907 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A great replacement for a horse shunter

  • @wiltothecollector4420
    @wiltothecollector4420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    Alternative title would probably be "Lawrie attempting to start a sodding locomotive for 25 minutes"

  • @stuvix
    @stuvix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    If you had told me the same uni students that ran the line had knocked this together over a weekend from spare parts as they needed a locomotive quickly I'd have not questioned it...
    Lovely quaint thing!

    • @datguymiller
      @datguymiller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Okay we have chains, a narrow gauge motor and bonnet, truck frame and some metal beams
      I can make a loco out of this

    • @johnathanedwards9054
      @johnathanedwards9054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Still more effective than the prr q1 locos

  • @tweed532
    @tweed532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Appropriately being called 'Courage' reminds the driver of 2 things:-
    1 Courage in wanting to hand start it
    2 Courage being the pints of beer to be supped replacing the sweat expended in doing so.
    Half expected a pack of hounds emerging from the undergrowth every time the 'horn' was sounded......

  • @NowhereMan260
    @NowhereMan260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    "Lawrie cranks it for 15 minutes and other stories."

  • @kaydensrailway5594
    @kaydensrailway5594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow, that starting procedure was really something! And they say diesels replaced steam cos they’re easier to start...

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So much easier 😂

    • @dustinm2717
      @dustinm2717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they mean diesels with electric starters that do all the hard work for you
      Cause yeah if you had to give a reason why electric starters were invented this is it, this is the prime example of it

  • @PlainlyDifficult
    @PlainlyDifficult 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Another great video!!

  • @888johnmac
    @888johnmac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    when i saw the size of the loco , i couldn't understand how the video was 46 mins .. and then a good % was watching Lawrie suffer & Morgan be 'encouraging '

  • @stegotron
    @stegotron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That thing looks like it was built for shits and giggles. Very much a Lawrie Goes Loco loco. And you could probably have got a steam engine going more quickly to give it the bump start. Also, the exhaust just firing straight back into whoever is coupled behind you exemplifies the entire concept of the little thing!
    Great video with your usual enthusiasm!

  • @CZ350tuner
    @CZ350tuner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "Diesel locos took over from steam because they didn't take hours to start"...... Hunslet contradicted this statement when they built Courage!!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Could have an entertaining race of who can get going first vs a steam Loco

  • @olololololjq2248
    @olololololjq2248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    He's absolutely adorable

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's so cute isn't it!

    • @britrailtog7085
      @britrailtog7085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would have thought that comment was referring to you 😛

  • @sodorflubbs5000
    @sodorflubbs5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s also struck me that having a Courage sign on that loco was also very apt as I think it took a lot of ‘Courage’ to try to start that by crank handle. 😉

  • @Mildcat743
    @Mildcat743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I think you mistitled a 'Lawrie Goes a Little Loco' episode, mate.

    • @irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739
      @irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lawrie goes a little loco is his model railway segment bro lawrie goes loco is real life locos on standard gauge or narrow

    • @AlexWeiss94
      @AlexWeiss94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739 he’s making a joke because the locomotive is so small

    • @TankEngine75
      @TankEngine75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739 ...You didn't get the joke

    • @irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739
      @irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TankEngine75 I did get it

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlexWeiss94 It's absolutely *bonkers*

  • @MCDDC10
    @MCDDC10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heard you on absolute radio this morning!!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Excellent! Fame at last 😂

  • @crazyfvck
    @crazyfvck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    lol :) The forklift that I drive at work weighs more than that locomotive! :D And I very much enjoyed your struggles trying to get it started ;)

  • @teescottageguyproductions
    @teescottageguyproductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    33:16 when it’s coming head on I think it kind of looks like a Ruston 48 which has had its body stripped

  • @karelvvv
    @karelvvv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My local water scouting group (yes, in the Netherlands) used to have this engine in a 1920's 3,5 meter long tiny tug boat (with the so called 'Amsterdam' stern), I was a hard one to start but it could run all day at a medium RPM. The sound of that engine brings me back to the care free 1990's which I enjoyed as a young adolecense.

  • @andrewpalm2103
    @andrewpalm2103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think this must be the ultimate standard gauge critter! Thanks for showing it to us. It's spiritual successor, the Trackmobile, has got to be a lot easier to start. Cheers from Wisconsin.

  • @ls6882
    @ls6882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant my man! This is along one of my lockdown walks as I live near there! They also had stored some trams from Leeds after the network got closed down but they got vandalised by the Riff Raff of the 60's 🙄 love your videos man and its ace you got ride along that line! 😊

  • @civishamburgum1234
    @civishamburgum1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's surprisingly entertaining to watch some lads failing to turn a crank.

  • @TheRailEnthusiast
    @TheRailEnthusiast 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a lovely little loco and may I say a very good video i am never disappointed with your videos they are the best railway content on TH-cam so interesting well done Lawrie 😊👍

  • @bellyruffian
    @bellyruffian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome review LMM and what a machine. I love the hand crank engine, you gave it your best. I was weaned on COURAGE ale so it was grand to see the engine that moved the goods that ruined my digestive tracts (sorry too much info I know). Keep it up team, I love your work.

  • @MsCreepyChan
    @MsCreepyChan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Reminds me of the Juggernaut from Ivor The Engine.
    That being said, no wonder it keeps going. Listers engines are notorious for their "Probably will outlive the human race" level of reliability.

  • @greatportlandstreetmodelra6513
    @greatportlandstreetmodelra6513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This thing really is fascinating. I mean it seems very reliable, as it has nothing that could break. Its the perfect size for smalls goods operations and therefore great at shunting trucks on a heritage railway. I would say it has a great fuel efficiency due to its weight/size/engine. Overall a great loco, that you could even build yourself in the backyard

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a really interesting little thing!

  • @campingstoveman
    @campingstoveman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have just made my day, I've never laughed so much wathing you try and swing that engine, did you change from highto low compression before you tried starting that, I helped move a 4 cylinder version of that engine with a generator attached from Milton Keynes to Internal Fire museum Tan y Groes in Wales, I had the generator set on a trailer behind my van and a friend had the engine on a trailer behind his van.
    When we got it built together it took four men, three on the large starting handle and one on a rope attached to the handle to start it. :-) Forgot to mention, that engine is a modified version of a Lister CS twin, CS stands for Cold Start" :-)

  • @germantanker131johnny2
    @germantanker131johnny2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting loco design. Love your vids!

  • @LegoJamTrain567
    @LegoJamTrain567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember seeing her at railfest 2012, such a cute engine!

  • @paulvozman842
    @paulvozman842 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting histories and superb restorations, just Subscribed thanks for showing these fascinating old Locos. Regards, Paul.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pleased to hear you're enjoying them!

  • @18robsmith
    @18robsmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Given the customer it was built for I think your idea about being devised late on a Friday night in a pub makes a lot of sense :-)

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 😂 Thank you

  • @PaulinesPastimes
    @PaulinesPastimes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's the cutest little engine. Watching it come out of the trees under the footbridge was a bit like watching Dr Nefario on his mobility scooter 😄 It looked like great fun. 👍😊

  • @mrsmigulzz6097
    @mrsmigulzz6097 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pea is a fun to start as i have seen in person but ended up as a bump start at a gala oh how fun 🤣👌🏼 can't wait for the next vid

  • @lordsjaak
    @lordsjaak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really by 7:20 i must laugh and i wearing your LMM T-shirt with the words "I am currently unsupervised" so we made a locomotive and call Courage :D *with two dumbs up and great big smile* this is great

  • @mattymanb8797
    @mattymanb8797 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve only watched 2 vids and I think ur Chanel is amazing! Keep up the good work!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much!

    • @mattymanb8797
      @mattymanb8797 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm your welcome!

  • @stuartross282
    @stuartross282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Looks like it built a bits from hunslet shelf’s coupled together

    • @sawyerawr5783
      @sawyerawr5783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      that moment when a model railroad kitbasher accidentally joins a real engine company.

    • @sodorflubbs5000
      @sodorflubbs5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s the duck billed platypus of railway engines!!!!

    • @roseroserose588
      @roseroserose588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      by the looks of it some of the shelves themselves were included for good measure

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@roseroserose588 It's totally fantastic. It's just absolutely completely *bonkers*

  • @kineticrail
    @kineticrail 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode. I remember seeing pictures of this and thinking it was a plaything made by someone just for the fun of it

  • @duck1946
    @duck1946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video as usual !! if you were to be able to have a go on all of their locos you could make enough episodes for the next couple of years! they do have an immaculate collection.
    Very nice museum and tea room too ,well worth visiting.

  • @32bitsPersona
    @32bitsPersona 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is a nice looking train my friend

  • @mar5den1991
    @mar5den1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the video thanks for the upload

  • @stefanhowick2961
    @stefanhowick2961 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @jamescounts481
    @jamescounts481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again great video. Thanks. James

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @lesliedickinson198
    @lesliedickinson198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great video and a railway that is close to my heart as my gran lived nearbye and my great grandad Earnest Clapham was a driver in its working days and worked there for over 50 yrs and I have a few pics of various locomotives over the years that served the railway. I still have memories as a kid of the slag heaps as a backdrop and the tram lines that ran nearbye into middleton woods. The place looks totally different now.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Drop a line to the line of any memories, there is a book recently published on the coal mines and the line and the locality.

  • @garyhardwick8489
    @garyhardwick8489 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha ha,that was hilarious! Certainly a good old workout for you there. I've been to the Middleton a few times (I live 10 minutes away) and it is an excellent railway. Now go get a rub down lol.

  • @benhack3102
    @benhack3102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Hornby ever made a model of Courage, I’d buy one just for the sheer ridiculousness of it. I love the diesel can, just another example of industrial improvisation another example is one of the sentinels at the railway I volunteer at has a dicky brake cylinder that you have to kick every now and then to get it to shut properly! Brilliant video as always

    • @ajaxengineco
      @ajaxengineco 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a 3d print on Shapeways, not sure if it's 00 but it does exist.

  • @Tombola1993
    @Tombola1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quirky little diesel. Love the chain underneath. Reminds me of a sentinel, even though it looks like a cross between a Ford model T and a Ruston diesel shunter.

  • @fabrizioviscardi40
    @fabrizioviscardi40 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I subscribed suddenly to your very intresting channel! Keep safe and cheers, Fabrizio

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for joining us 😊

    • @fabrizioviscardi40
      @fabrizioviscardi40 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm Thanks to you for sharing! Cheers Fabrizio

  • @richardbrobeck2384
    @richardbrobeck2384 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video

  • @CZ350tuner
    @CZ350tuner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Probably one of the only locomotives, since the 1840's, to still utilise a post horn as an audible warning device.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's brilliant isn't it

  • @miss__caroline
    @miss__caroline 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love lawries excitement for this little engine. ☺️

  • @nilanjanmoitra4249
    @nilanjanmoitra4249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Was that horn seriously used back in those days xD??? Sounds so hilarious!!! Nice, little locomotive yet ridiculously tough to start...and changing gears while keeping it in motion is another tough thing in the list xD!!! Anyways, loved the video as Lawrie has always been my fav! Love from India :)

  • @DWARING2004
    @DWARING2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    another great video as always i really enjoy the content you should do a video with the midland railway trust they have some brilliant locos as well as an antique vehicle display

  • @wilsonlaidlaw
    @wilsonlaidlaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Serious competition for Mallard I think.

  • @KPen3750
    @KPen3750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just hear John Cleese going "START YOU VISCIOUS BASTARD!!!" while Lawrie is trying to crank it to life

  • @sodorflubbs5000
    @sodorflubbs5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You had to make sure we knew you knew what you were doing Lawrie. Lol

  • @eddjordan2399
    @eddjordan2399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your channel.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @adriandrosdzowski7344
    @adriandrosdzowski7344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the smallest standard gauge locomotive would be a 2ft gauge locomotive, dropped into a standard gauge frame called Hurculisese,(can't spell, named after t Greek god) which lives at Froxfield. She was a "convention " done by Shelton steel works

  • @Terrys-Steam-and-Cobi
    @Terrys-Steam-and-Cobi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video. Truly.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you

  • @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS
    @RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's one racey shunting engine! You see, Hunslet understood that a true fast shunter should be light as possible for handling

    • @ajaxengineco
      @ajaxengineco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Until you try and stop a few wagons in the snow, downhill, and sort of just slide. A 48 goes out of control with a single coach, so I shouldn't wonder the maximum braking load for this.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ajaxengineco it tends to be used along the flatter tracks here, a downhill run from Middleton park might be lively if all three coaches , wagon and brake van were in service together.

  • @tonydeleo3642
    @tonydeleo3642 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Laurie, what a strange but wonderful little engine. From watching you oil Sweet Pea, you might consider adding an oil rag to your kit. I feel for the gentlemen riding in the coach, I am sure they ate their fair share of exhaust. Cheers!!!

  • @medwaymodelrailway7129
    @medwaymodelrailway7129 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like the video very much.Take care

  • @highpath4776
    @highpath4776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet Pea went to the NRM a few years back, did some shunting on a MK1 I think and got some of the biggest cheers and toots from passing locos on the mainlines through York

  • @pikablob
    @pikablob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lovely little engine but she seems like she’s hell to drive - I was wincing at the noise she made with every gear change

    • @danielbaxter6203
      @danielbaxter6203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gear changes were to slow that's why.

  • @charlesbolduc7198
    @charlesbolduc7198 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos please keep them coming because the more I see the more I wish I could be there in your country to live an own my loco and to work for you people

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We've got loads lined up!

  • @SimonTog
    @SimonTog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video :)

  • @stewartshuttleworth5653
    @stewartshuttleworth5653 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Lawrie, the 'new Fred Dibnah' Stewart & Linda (Js mum & dad)

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much!
      It's all rather quite mad.

  • @SteamLance
    @SteamLance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Shropshire and Montgomeryshire Railway No.1 Gazelle is the actual smallest standard gauge loco in the world, around the same height as Talyllyn locos. Its currently at Tenterden in the museum, at the K&ESR.

    • @Synchro-Mesh
      @Synchro-Mesh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look up The Flying Bufferbeam Peckett 1900 you'll be surprised

    • @SteamLance
      @SteamLance 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Synchro-Mesh Yes I know that, but Gazelle is genuinely really small

    • @KrisDouglas
      @KrisDouglas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peckett 1900 is low, but nowhere near as small.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Courage is shorter though.
      My 48 is shorter
      I think Gazelle is 17 foot?

  • @trisrush9155
    @trisrush9155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    An oil can should always be accompanied by a rag....👍

  • @RailwayManiaNet
    @RailwayManiaNet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent

  • @pasteam4601
    @pasteam4601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now another railroad in the us I want to visit I love how it just has small locomotives

  • @bengrant8455
    @bengrant8455 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid
    You really need to do an episode at bluebell it's my local one and I've been going there since I was toddler haha

  • @TimEaston
    @TimEaston ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video on what must be the most bonkers engine ever built

    • @lmm
      @lmm  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's an amazing little thing isn't it!

    • @TimEaston
      @TimEaston ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm yes it is

  • @Fischer0Dude
    @Fischer0Dude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Small world! My 1951 Massey-Harris G22 FS140 4 cylinder makes 22hp from factory. I'm not sure it still makes that, but I still use it every week or so to plow snow!

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to hear that it's still in use!

    • @Fischer0Dude
      @Fischer0Dude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lmm I hope I work as good as my tractor does when I'm 70 years old!

  • @SteamLance
    @SteamLance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also think you should do an episode on a tram, maybe one of the Blackpool trams. There's one Marton VAMBAC tram left at the East Anglia Transport Museum, the only operational Blackpool tram at the moment with the original twin headcode boxes. Blackpool trams are gorgeous

  • @tsufordman
    @tsufordman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When that engine fired, it reminded me of the sound two-cylinder John Deere tractors I ran at my first job. (Poppin' Johnnies)

  • @anumeon
    @anumeon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I suppose that this is the little engine that could.. Provided you figured out what to use it for... :D

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mostly moving beer kegs around Courage Brewery in Alton

  • @phtby1635
    @phtby1635 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the perfect loco for learning how to drive locomotives

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's actually not 😂 there are much easier things out there

  • @shopdog831
    @shopdog831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wonder if after all the effort to start it, it would have been less work just to push the wagon alone.

  • @SqueezeboxOfDelights
    @SqueezeboxOfDelights 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have you ever been to/heard of the Tanat Valley Railway in Wales? It appears to be a very small, very independent heritage railway, much like many others, but they also have a monorail system complete with the world's only functioning steam monorail. It seems like the sort of thing you'd be interested in...

  • @railnut21
    @railnut21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It is a lovely thing. How much did they take the Mickey out on you for the starter fail I wonder. Only thing I can think of that looks smaller (probably heavier?) Is the Port of Par/China clay twins Judy and Alfred (AKA Bill and Ben for some people of a certain age).

  • @anonharingenamn
    @anonharingenamn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a comfy little locomotive.

  • @greatwesternproductions2857
    @greatwesternproductions2857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This little loco reminds me of the Juggernaut in ‘Ivor the Engine’, great film Lawrie :)

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yes! Me too!

  • @bentullett6068
    @bentullett6068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I see all those practise sessions crank starting Humpty didn't pay off on this loco. Anyway its a interesting diesel loco and its past was upsetting to hear about but like any good story it ends in a good way in its preservation.

  • @Techmakerdk
    @Techmakerdk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When talking about small locomotives I can’t help thinking about DSB Traktor 48 and DSB Traktor 57. Not British but tiny. And a bit silly.

    • @SDE1994
      @SDE1994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      or the french Moyse tractor "Bête à cornes", lovely cast chassis

    • @Techmakerdk
      @Techmakerdk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SDE1994 that is a fine bit of kit as well. 😀

  • @gs425
    @gs425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lawrie it's not surprising that is hard to start by hand... The JP2 is a whopping 2.9 litre engine for all of its 22hp. And with it being only 2 cylinder, as you said, it will be harder to turn that a 4. Add into that the higher compression of a diesel and yep...It's gonna brake and break you lol. Good video regards Gary

  • @Plymouthstation1985
    @Plymouthstation1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great little loco I have one of those railway horns I believe track gangs used them

  • @thestandardfour0699
    @thestandardfour0699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Whickham Trolly is probably smaller though! Well done, I love this series! Keep it up :-)

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wickhams are trolleys though, and not locomotives

    • @thestandardfour0699
      @thestandardfour0699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, Thanks for clearing that up.

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thestandardfour0699 it's just a specification really, they're self propelled trolleys.
      Though yes, they are much smaller!

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm Riding a NG Wickham was fun at Corris Railway one evening shifting a delivery of spare rails. (basically scrap but you dont say no, as the next offer might be useful)

  • @shawncurtis3686
    @shawncurtis3686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    " I need a locomotive ? "
    "Well how much have you got"

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 😂 I think we've something lying around

  • @Rebel9668
    @Rebel9668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That looks to be much the same way as I used to have to start our 1939 John-Deere model "A" farm tractor with the exception of you have a crank handle whereas I had to grab the actual flywheel itself and spin it by hand. Its "pressure relief" was a petcock valve on the side of each of its two cylinders. Some days it'd start on the first couple of cranks. Other days it seems I'd spend an hour of cranking and wheezing for breath before it would pop off and run. :) When starting the process was to turn on the petrol so it would gravity flow down to the carburetor, set the brakes, put the gear lever in neutral, give it some throttle, pull the choke out full, open the petcocks and give it a crank until it reached a compression stroke. If luck were with me I'd get a single pop and then would push the choke halfway back in and on the next compression stroke it would fire off. Then I'd close the petcock valves, push the choke back in fully and climb aboard, release the brake sets, pull the hand clutch, select a gear and push the hand clutch forward and off I'd go, lol. It did have an electric start, but 99% of the time the 6volt battery was always dead as it was set to charge very slowly assuming that you'd be on it in the fields all day. The sound of it running at throttle was amazingly similar to the sound of that Hunslet as you came out of the tunnel. If it were slowed down to idle though, which we would set it on for splitting wood with a hydraulic splitter that coupled to the hydraulic pump in the tractor it sounded like it was going to die which was normal. It would sound like pop-POP-foof-foof-foof-foof-pop-POP. If you ever get the chance look up Hand starting a John Deere "A" sometime on youtube and you'll see and hear what I mean. :)

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll have a look, cause that sounds awesome!

    • @Rebel9668
      @Rebel9668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmm This one, th-cam.com/video/8a-jLedQJhk/w-d-xo.html while one size smaller than ours shows how to start and drive one pretty well. Ours was a bit more of a bear as it had a larger flywheel with teeth on the backside of it for the starter motor to engage even though we usually started it by hand anyway as the battery was usually flat. They were originally a 2 fuel tractor with two tanks as back then kerosene was much cheaper than gasoline. You'd start the tractor on gas in the small tank and when the engine warmed up you'd switch to the kerosene tank. We ran gasoline in both tanks, using the small tank as a reserve so that if we ran out of gas while mowing, plowing or whatever, we'd switch to the smaller tank and drive back up to the barn where we stored fuel.

  • @jvmalta081
    @jvmalta081 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that hock is in the way and a smaller sprocket on the starting handle side would help even more !

  • @Erika_Banba
    @Erika_Banba 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always but there’s smaller than that she’s called flying bufferbeam I’d suggest googling it it’s hilarious and adorable when trying to pull a train

  • @jashugg
    @jashugg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you momentarily allow the clutch to engage in the neutral position on the way through from low to second, while letting the revs drop as you did, you should be able to engage the higher gear without grinding, enabling a quicker and smoother gear change. Essentially double clutching/rev matching.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      One tends to need both feet on the clutch and brake bars on this.

  • @insomniacbritgaming1632
    @insomniacbritgaming1632 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Middleton is amazing. They allowed us to use their train museum Hall to study for our PTS

    • @lmm
      @lmm  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a really super place!

  • @isctony
    @isctony 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should try and start it up a little more often! might make it a bit easier! Another great video, and I just realised i'm not subscribed, that has now changed :)

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much!
      To bed fair it doesn't get used much these days

  • @sodorflubbs5000
    @sodorflubbs5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh Lawrie. I feel your pain good sir. Am I right that I though you just wanted to do it properly? It was interesting that they couldn’t do it easily either

  • @onlyplanes8242
    @onlyplanes8242 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing

  • @teescottageguyproductions
    @teescottageguyproductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The good thing about the handbrake being in the middle is that it can keep you socially distancing!

  • @simonkirkbright5197
    @simonkirkbright5197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There may be a smaller standard gauge loco than this. JACOB is a small petrol engined loco that worked at a Jacob's biscuit factory. The engine was at Dinting Railway center but where it is now I don't know.....just googled it, the loco is at Statfold Barn Museum

  • @iainbruce3376
    @iainbruce3376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really want one of those!!!

  • @gardiner516
    @gardiner516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Halto county radial museum in halton Ontario Canada was founded back 1954, making one oldest streetcar. It was started by 3 students that wanted to save TRC car 136 from TTC. They bought over time 1,1/4 miles of radial right of way for taxes. The museum has been operating for past 60 plus years

  • @johnwood6223
    @johnwood6223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    going to snap his thumb you never hook thumb over a starting handle but pain a great teacher when engine kicks back

    • @lmm
      @lmm  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apparently it doesn't.
      You have to push the thing in to keep it engaged, which is very difficult to do if you don't hold it.

  • @fredsrails7501
    @fredsrails7501 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this railway been there loads