What Do Americans Think of ‘Socialized’ Medicine? | NowThis
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- ‘If everybody has something for free, who’s gonna pay for it?’ - We took to the streets of NYC to find out how Americans feel about socialized health care.
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In US news and current events today, NowThis News hit the streets of New York to ask everyday Americans about the universal health care debate. A recent video featuring British people commenting on the health care system in America went viral, consider this video the answer. These people gave their thoughts on private healthcare vs public health care. Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, health insurance is more available in the U.S., but without a public health care or National health care system like the U.K. or Canada, many people in the U.S. will still be uninsured and at risk.
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I used to think America was great, but honestly the more I learn about it the more I want to stay away from it
Please do
People from there come here to Brasil to have treatment so yeah
I mean it's not people fault their government works in a certain way. What deeply annoys me is the lack of information and compassion in that country.
Philipe d. I think of America more as a company that profits on its citizens more than a country itself
Philipe d. What deeply annoys me is ignorant people like you who don’t respect other people’s values (bigots)
The contrast in mentalities by age is so stark
It blows my mind!!!
I'm 60, and Canadian, we have universal health care of course.
That older woman was an absolute moron!!!🤦♂️🤦♀️🤦♂️
Unreal...
The dialects also kind of hint at certain political standings, although I do have a lot of southern liberal or democratic friends, which is to say I don't want to stereotype.
@@germnbill She was a Daughter or the Confederacy for sure!
leicanoct then tell us who does?
@@abelis644 sadly when she realizes it's cheaper she still defends paying through the nose.
My American coworker told me she had a friend who needed surgery for a life-threatening condition, and they made her pay like thousands and thousands of dollars. So much that she actually needed to think about whether she wanted to do it or not at first. That's insane. Absolutely mad and should not be happening in a first world country in 2022.
and in italy, not perfect ,the stae cover even the cos tof ambulance for example person that has cancer ,is invalid and need to go to the hospital..obviusly no payement for chemio
universal healthcare is the way forward, the USA is ok to visit but the healthcare system here is diabolically expensive wether you have insurance or not.
America, the richest 3rd world country in the world.
I'm having a hard time calling the US a first-world nation these days, and I'm a US citizen. 🙃
America is not a, first world country anymore
Karen: “People need to look for jobs that provide benefits.”
Also Karen: “WHY WON’T YOU FLIP BURGERS FOR PENNIES? YOU’RE SO UNGRATEFUL!”
Groomer: why don’t you pay my bills. I don’t want to work!!!
@@fatherson5907 New York declares a state of emergency over polio
Finds work but employer cuts hours so that they don't have to pay for benefits: "Well F me, I guess."
@@fatherson5907 Anti-Groomer unless the groomer is a priest and Christian.
Just like evangelicals.
Talk all Christian and all mighty but will not be for feeding children in schools for free.
@@jmgirard7 "But youll be working just 2 hours less at 38 hours a week! its basically fulltime but we strip of you insurance and benefits because we dont care for you!"
Woman: If it's free it's not worth having.
*Oxygen: I'm about to end this whole woman's career*
Don't they know, that the PD and FD are paid through taxes??
BRAINWASHED!
Just a crazy old witch
ah well i likr my free air to breathe you know :/
Stephanie B At least it's easy to rip off such people
American: Do you like to pay taxes?
Any European: For universal healthcare? GOD YES
No, the right exists in Europe too you know.
Not "any european".
@@8is But he spoken of EUROPEANS in the first place.
@@8is
What right?
Not just EU and Canada. There are many others like Australia and New Zealand.
Had to go to the ER with my fiance while we were in Ireland. He didn’t want me to call the ambulance for him because he was scared of the cost, as we aren’t particularly financially stable. The cost turned out to be €0. The US is messed up.
All funded by other people because you two are broke bums.
"I'm still for individual medical care"
Me: "Girl, that's an entirely new level of Stockholm syndrome that I didn't know about before!"
You believe propaganda because you’re ignorant and uneducated.
The first two women are basically: I have the money so others can die.
Americans would be quick to say that American hospitals can't refuse treatment. But after treatment the patient would receive a huge bill. Patients have to face a choice of death or debt.
Survival of the fittest.
I can't believe how selfish these women are! 😲 Let's hear from them when the husband left them for a younger version and they have to work and still aren't able to pay for there healthcare (I wanted to say Botox, but it's clear to me they do not get those 😂)
@@austinsworldtour8748 yipee, social Darwinism/s
Which is crazy, because they also would be paying less. So it's even in their own best interest.
Not even talking about other people having healthcare helps prevent something like the current coronavirus spread. Not everyone has a US $ 3100 lying around to get themselves tested.
America: "socialized" healthcare
Rest of the world: healthcare
BK0101 02
‘Murica: social = bad!
‘Muricans: let’s pile up by the hundreds and swallow gallons of liquor...wooooooo!
Rest of the world huh...you mean Europe.
@@Kyle-kc8cw in Nigeria there's free primary healthcare and people give birth in Government hospitals for free except the hospital runs out of anything and can't get it on time before you give birth so you may have to pay for that yourself out of pocket.
Many other African countries have something similar free mosquito nets, free drugs for certain diseases that are common. Many drugs can be bought for 0.15usd in the pharmacy in Nigeria that's impossible to find in the U.S of A
@@Kyle-kc8cw No, almost all of the rest of the world in a stable enough position to
@@Biobele Exactly even here in India ..all kind of treatment in government hospital is pretty much free, if you are under certain income range.
And if talking about medications ,I would say India is probably cheapest place to find medicines.
Different topic, but still mentionable: As a European woman who's been on international dating platforms, whenever an American man texted me, they automatically assumed that I'd be dreaming of living in the US. They didn't even ask, but started talking about what we could do together, once I've moved. The shock and disbelief they showed when I told them I'd not want to move to the US was actually really offensive.
You’re on an international dating platform?
Humorous how pathetic and desperate women from the EU are. Thanks for the laugh.
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who cannot stand that other countries have it better than the US.
I can't read your replies. :(
@@fatherson5907 The average age of a medical bankruptcy filer is 44.9 years old.
40% of Americans fear they won’t be able to afford health care in the upcoming year.
17% of adults with health care debt declared bankruptcy or lost their home because of it.
66.5% of bankruptcies are caused directly by medical expenses, making it the leading cause for bankruptcy.
As of April 2022, 14% of Americans with medical debt planned to declare bankruptcy later in the year because of it.
I'd move to Europe for a woman.
I’m British and I will die on this hill: healthcare is not a privilege it’s a right.
Preach
@@johangustavlammers1140 it’s a metaphorical hill. But good to have you alongside.
No it’s a privilege and I totally disagree with you; comes from someone working in a public health care system.
@@abiefbozair2659 that you view it as a privilege is saddening but for the civilised access to quality healthcare is a right and one that many have died for. Every year governments spend unimaginable amounts of money on weapons including weapon systems that should never be used ever and do so as a right and obligation. These governments should spend equally on providing healthcare and healthcare systems that should be used as a right and obligation.
@@stevenredpath9332 I understand what you are trying to say and somehow agree with you on some points that you mentioned in your reply , but you should work as a healthcare provider in a public healthcare system before coming to a conclusion that healthcare is a right not privilege. You see as with many free of charge services , people tend to abuse the system.
"I hate paying taxes"
*Pays thousands more in insurance fees*
Yep, should have mentioned that to them.
@labcoent co Yep, she was morraly bankrupt...
Horrible people who don't care about the less fortunate members of society, they don't want to have to contribute to help others, I thought that is what a civilised society does...
@labcoent co yes the easiest why to eliminate poverty is to let the poor die!
Was Jesus Christ a not capitalist??????
!!!!
Probably gets it from His job
The more I learn about America the less I want to live there.
Quiet G u literally described my childhood
@@quietg3712 try canada, i'm sure it's gonna live up to your expectations of what you thought the us would be like.
The healthcare puts me off.... nhs is amazing
Mouloud Aourtilane too cold tho 🥶
@@mouloudaourtilane3262 Went to Nova Scotia with my girlfriend. Had a brilliant time. The people were hilarious and very much like us which makes sense because I'm from Scotland, Nova Scotia means New Scotland and was founded by the Scottish.
With some Americans (thankfully a minority), I've discussed healthcare, eventually getting them to concede that, yes, public healthcare is actually cheaper, both overall and for them personally, and, yes, the results are as good or better, and still had them insist that the US system is better, because they "don't want to pay someone else's bill". In other words, they would rather pay more and get less, than risk helping someone they don't know. That's not even capitalism; capitalism is all about getting more for less.
Like I said, though, this is a minority. Still shockingly many, though.
The really effed up part is, that’s exactly how insurance works, everyone pays into it! There’s something seriously wrong in the US!
@@daveg-Vancouver_Island yep, like universal healthcare is paid for just like health insurance, minus a lot of unnecessary admin costs.
Best summary of many American minds!
And how does it make healthcare cheaper
@@fdfsfc1977 There are presumably more factors than I'm aware of, and definitely more than can be listed here. Here are some of them, though:
- Stronger negotiation power in purchases of pharmaceuticals, costly equipment, and more.
- Less bureaucracy. Insurance companies have a gigantic bureaucracy, designed to avoid covering treatments. Public healthcare simply covers what the doctor deems necessary. In other words: Unlike in private health care, there are no "death panels".
- Earlier intervention. People don't delay going to the doctor with health issues. The earlier a serious issue is discovered, the less the treatment will cost.
- No built in profiteering.
For those who said "NO", just wait till you have a need to seek extensive health care services and get your medical bills.
Especially when you either don’t have insurance or you’re not covered? Why are these people so Stupid?
@stevenclarke5606 they're not stupid. They are brainwashed
They'll still say no because they're brainwashed.
Seeing this america has two problems:
- no state-funded healthcare
- huge lack of education
Geisterfahrerüberholer as an American, I wholeheartedly agree! I haven’t gone to college also because I can’t afford it, but I’d honestly much rather just get textbooks and learn on my own.
@@labaccident2010 that's a good very good idea. soooooooo....... JUST DO IT
Nice Name
Geisterfahrerüberholer Most of the population of the USA have no idea of what happens outside America. Most don’t even know where Europe is! 😐
The younger people in this video do seem to be reasonably well educated on the matter and know that they aren’t getting the service that they should be entitled to.
The older citizens however are very much set in their ways and can’t empathise with someone who is less fortunate. One of them said that everyone needs to look for well paying jobs with healthcare benefits but not everyone can have a job like that. Perhaps employers need to do more for their employees but the government should also be setting a higher standard.
"What do you think about socialized healthcare?"
"I don't like the government telling me what I can and can't do."
Excuse me, how is that connected?
The government already tells them what they can and can't do.
Finn Jons socialism and communism are like the most scary and evil thing to them
@@rowo175 American police have already embraced communism. They use the most brutal over the top violence with no provocation and arrest people who aren't committing any sort of crime.
Nick Baldeagle what are you talking about? Communism is an economic system, perhaps you refer to authoritarianism (?
In her defense, compulsory social healthcare means you have to pay a monthly percentage of your wage, so the government would tell them that they have to pay (or tell them they can't not pay). What she doesn't get is that although she might not need it most of the time, she will be thankful for that one time she has a stroke or other medical emergency. And people usually get sick a few times a year, so there is that.
As an American, the healthcare system here is beyond terrible. I remeber I had a heartrate of 168 from when I was just standing at work and refused to go to the ER because I was afraid of the cost.
And I would happily pay more in taxes if it meant that I or someone else could get healthcare without going into debt.
So why aren’t you voluntarily paying more taxes now?
You’re full of bs.
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who cannot stand that other countries have it better than the US.
@@fatherson5907 😂😂😂
Maybe one day because insurance costs so much more than taxes lmao, please let me just pay a certain amount and not be in danger if i get injured instead of having to call my employer while im bleeding out to make sure i can go to the furthest hosipital im zoned for because it works with my insurance. Its scary when you realize how many people actually refuse healthcare and end up paying way more, or even dying because they could not pay and refused to seek treatment
You know the sad truth is that the tax rate is not all that different at all-your taxes goes to pay for all the US forever wars instead of helping the people
Every time I visit the USA, I thank my lucky stars I wasn’t born there. The tragedy is many Americans don’t realise the rest of the world pities more than admires them.
Completely agree. A lot of Americans are up in their heads and think they’re the “best” country in the world when they’re most certainly not
@Paul - The tragedy is you don’t realize we couldn’t care less what you think.
@@ianalan4367 It is your loss to refuse to learn from those who do it better. It is like Larry Bird giving a basketball lesson but you just stomp your feet saying you do not care and walk away.
Yeah as a thirdwolrder once you get out of the Hollywood phase in seeing America, their country becomes pretty tragic
@@page8301 Yeah you sure it do better with those wait times.
Breaking Bad in Europe:
Walt gets cancer
Cancer treatment is free and he’s allowed sick leave from work
Walt recovers
The end.
@@michelr8817 well you forget free education you get
and what if you had a serios injery? US if you have not the good insurance you have to pay a ton of money compared to Europe where you pay only a part of your income i mean if you are eaning quite less you could apply for social support for paying less
@@calebf3655 but in order to pay the to surgeon he still needed the money he made from meth ;)
And given that we have accessible healthcare over here that also won't bankrupt you, his chances of survival would've been fair
@@calebf3655 Actually that top surgeon would be free.... Is it that difficult to grasp this concept.
@@michelr8817 Stop lying. I know many people who moved from Europe to the US. And they all pay triple or quadruple the amount they used to pay in Europe. Yes, it isn't "free" but it's a lot cheaper. The main problem is, American hospitals are incredibly expensive. An ambulance ride which is "free" aka paid by your health insurance in Germany is €600 ($650). That same ride in the US is $2700.
Giving birth is $10,000-$30,000 in the US. While in Germany it is €1500-€2000 ($1640-$2180) which again is "free" aka paid by your health insurance.
Health expenditure per capita in the US is $10,586 (2018). Which makes it the most expensive healthcare system in the world. In Germany, which is the second most expensive healthcare system in the world, it's $5,986 (2018) per capita. And in "communist" France it's $4,965 (2018) per capita. Making it the fifth most expensive healthcare system in the world. Which is still less than half of what is spend in the US.
@@michelr8817 I'd rather pay some more income tax and VAT if that means that thing like healthcare and education are affordable or free. If university sets you back 30-50k a year and simply giving birth costs north or 10k, you only give the priviledged access to services that are meant for everyone.
I support capitslism, but some areas require government intervention and need to be publicly managed. Healthcare and education are one of those areas. What kind of country do you live in when many people that get sick are stuck between avoiding treatment and possibly dying, or selling your house to take the treatment or possibly bankruptcy?
In the US, you might be a patient or student, but you're a customer above all else and that idea is sickening
"Anything that's free, sometimes it's not worth having."
*Does that go for brain cells too?*
I know lol. I couldnt believe it when she said that.
😂😂😂
Nothing about the nhs is free
Applies to fortnite
I seriously doubt she had any clue as to what was being asked and I seriously doubt she even realised what she said.
I cannot believe how selfish those two older ladies were. America, you’re broken.
What blew my mind is when I found out insurance doesn't cover every hospital or ambulance service provider so there's a good chance you'll still be on the hook. .
Americans would literally rather pay more and cover themselves, than pay less and cover everyone, that's selfishness on a whole other scale.
That blows my mind!
Ikr. As an American, I am disappointed
Sure it's great when someone ELSE is doing the paying.
These people are adding more bad stuff to our name :( people already don't like Americans we don't need more to dislike about us
@@87Wayne That's the fundamental concept of insurance too
"Socialized Medicine" or, as we call it in the rest of the world, "Medicine".
But unlike Canadians we can get a CT scan in a couple of days or on the spot in the case of emergency. My buddy wanted 12 months in Canada. And un like the UK the US will do anything to keep a child alive, the UK will let them die instead of trying experimental treatments. Don't believe me it happened last year.
Michael Settles I’ve lived in both the UK and Australia, both countries have universal healthcare. I can tell you as someone who has experienced government healthcare firsthand that I am very grateful and pleased with the healthcare I have received. I have also never heard of a case where British Hospitals allow children to die when something can be done. The NHS is not perfect and waiting times are quite high but I would rather wait than die and to have access to MRI scans, consultation appointments and specialist appointments as well as operations for next to nothing is amazing. That’s not to say that you can’t go private, but to have a universal healthcare for a reasonably poorer family cannot be understated. Of course there’s pros and cons but in the UK and Australia, you can choose to go private or public, so you actually have more freedom than in the US, where you have to go private. People are dying in the US because they can’t afford healthcare, how is that acceptable? You guys need to do something about it because it’s frankly embarrassing.
Michael Settles “We”...you mean people with insurance and/or money? Here, everyone can get a CT scan. If you want one really quickly and you have the money, you can pay privately. The difference is if you don’t have money you still get the scan.
Also, you read the Fox News version of what those sick child cases were about.
Any wait times are because of the triage system. They will treat people in need of urgent care first. If you're not going to die from what you have then you can wait. The people in need of life saving care will be treated before others that are in a life threatening situation.
@@miclic1217 the case you refer to had many experts from around the world say it wouldn't work or could cause more suffering to the child
I find it sad how the US is full of such self centred people.
This is literally the main reason why I insisted not going to the hospital for an MRI after my first car crash. I only had whiplash and months of back pain minimized through yoga and careful stretches, thank god I didn't have anything worse. I remember everyone including the paramedics just staring at me. I remember my mom on the verge of screaming at me why I refused to go to the hospital. Idk if they thought I was a madman, but I guess I am - mad with the system I live in. It honestly upsets me how many people view the current healthcare system as the norm. Everything is so outdated, from healthcare to schools. It's like hyper-monetization and -competition is the only thing to look forward to.
Those people that are saying no to socialized medicine have no clue what they are talking about. Currently my medical plan is pretty much "death before debt."
By all accounts you are not alone. Plus there are the 30-40 thousand US citizens who died this year because they had no health care at all.
@@allanfoster6965 and those 30-40K are a testimonial to the success of the healthcare industry's motto: "Your money or your life."
@@dontaylor7315 Disgusting isn't it? Profit or your loss. That is what they are all about.
@@allanfoster6965 and Kate, while I am glad you see M4A as needed and better, if we cannit convince either the older voters to change their mind or get more young people involved in the voting process. There may not be enough votes the candidates that support M4A.
@@PersianMichael getting out the millennial and gen Z vote is vital and urgent. A lot of us boomers are on board but not enough. There's got to be a down-ticket sweep for progressives this time not just for president, or else no president no matter how progressive can get meaningful reforms enacted. The centri$ts in Congress can't be weaned from their fealty to the corporate ruling class.
American: "Do you like to pay taxes?"
German: "Yes we do like to pay taxes. Do you like to die because you cannot afford treatment?"
Well to be honest those people saying that actually can afford the treatments they just don't care if no one else can or dies as result. They think lower class people just didn't work hard enough to afford it or are lazy, they have no sympathy for the less fortunate.
I would pay 100% taxes if the government provides me all stuff of my life.
@@organ66 thats.... called communism
*OOOOOOOOO* burn
@@Eric-wu5ue then you should return your stimulus check, hence that's a form of communism lol hahahahahaahah this republitards crack me up
Unfortunately one of the reasons why the concept isn't happening in the US is because it is opposed by those that profit from it the most, and they certainly do it without caring or blinking of the lives its paid with.
I hope with time itll change, theres been a shift in idologies regarding health and work systems in the US with age, just gotta wait for people to die at this point lol. I just want more speaking on the health of the gereral public and treatment of citizens, but we matter none to corporations, and we have no say unlike they do.
My daughter had a quadruple by-pass in Australia, which also has a national health service and it cost nothing either for the op or all the ongoing care. Just because there is no charge at the point of service doesn’t mean it’s free. We all pay a relevant tax, which is automatically taken from your pay. Just because there is no charge doesn’t mean people abuse the system. It means that if you are sick you can get all the help you need without worrying if you can afford it or if it will bankrupt you. Many medications are also subsidised by the government too, especially for people with chronic or life threatening illnesses. You get the help you need, which is decided on by your doctor/consultant, not what an insurance company decides they are prepared to pay for!
Yet average household debt is lower in the US.
Math is hard for you peasants 🤣🤣🤣🤣
America where guns are affordable but healthcare isn't.
Dave Dunwell America, where people blame everything on guns and not on mental health
Gotta lower the population somehow
I blame guns and republicans
@@djbdyckfbsgsg9176 Well, then it's not like giving guns to those who can have mental health problems (so literally everyone) is a good idea, right?
Lao lmao by that logic most western countries should be having the same amount of public shootings the US does.
Imagine not calling an ambulance because you worried about the cost. The US is a joke.
I'm sorry, is this some sort of US joke I am to European to understand.
To quote a tweet: "If I get injured, you better call me an Uber. I'm not about to pay 5,000 dollars for a trip in the wee-woo wagon."
it's actually really sad
Every American with health needs knows not to call for emergency transport. Helicopter transport though? It's a laughable amount of money.
Land of free you have all the choice. Poor me gotta call govt ambulance, with a response time of 5 mins inside City. They don't even let me to pay for it, in Austria.
It's a very big part of British culture, this sence of togetherness that Americans don't seem to grasp. Everyone who can afford it pays for the NHS no matter how small or large a contribution so it is available to everyone even those who can't afford it. Everyone has a duty to eachother not just to themselves and that's such a large part of what it means to be British. We look after our own. Always have. Always will.
Well said, the NHS can also buy medication in bulk so we only pay £9. US citizens are vulnerable to inflated drug prices. The NHS works but our government have not been investing in it sadly.
Yes Brits sure look after their own. I have never seen a nastier bunch other than Australians when it comes to gossip rags and bigotry.
Except when your money is going to violent immigrants who don’t contribute anything to your country and are actively trying to destroy it all while taking advantage of those systems. Britain is being killed from within on purpose.
"Individuals need to look for jobs that provide benefits."
Yes, but by definition, a large proportion of US jobs don't provide good benefits. Does it mean people working these jobs don't deserve healthcare?
"Would you like basic human rights?"
AnD wHoSe GoNnA pAy FoR iT?
US: gun rights > human rights.
Well, let me tell you that it is a very important question. In my country we have free health care and it is great but then you look at the job offers and people here earn a lot less then in the US. If it was only health care it could work out but trust me, once this starts, many other things will be controlled by the state. I would prefer to have to pay $100 for an insurance while earning $300 more than what I do now
@@miguellazarogil935 how is paying for insurance going to let your earn $300 more
@@miguellazarogil935 The pay disparity is because of the US having a larger market but that market is about to collapse friend because it is propt up in fake revenue. Your better off taking a long lasting fullfilling job out of the US with stronger stable economies. You will never know how long it will be until the next bubble pops and you are jobless again but it is clear the bail outs are getting closer and closer to each other as time moves.
@@miguellazarogil935 If you have a major health implication and can't work, you will be paying more per month then you can afford.
‘I would rather pay $100 to a private company than $10 in taxes for the same thing’ - republicans
bleaaarghh not true at all.
@@kt550 really?
Allan Foster 20 trillion for Medicare for all
If it’s for my own family then yes I would more. I don’t work to pay for everyone else.
@@kt550 And he's here again. Guys, look at Europe. We have "socialized" health care by much lower costs at all.
Your pharmacy industry is bleeding you white.
The old lady in red was a real piece of work
it should be stated that we do have private health care in the UK - if you have the money to pay for it you can, some people even feel they should use private of they can to avoid pressure adding unnecessary pressure on the NHS.
"Anything that is free, sometimes it's not worth having."
*This is an ambulance we're talking about, Pauline - not a loan shark.*
Americans already pay a lot in taxes for healthcare in fact they pay over 3 times as much per capita for healthcare than Canada. Yet over 500,000 Americans go bankrupt for healthcare related reasons every year and healthcare is by far the main way in which people go bankrupt
It's also not free, as in no-one pays for, but there is no charge at the point of use.
@@ian1352 True but considering that healthcare can be the difference between life and death, not needing to worry about paying upfront is much better. An upfront cost is how people die from not being able to afford insulin or refusing to visit a doctor until their condition worsens.
People like her are the issue ...
If it's free it's not worth it is true. And Socialized healthcare is far from free, it's far from cost effective, it's far from societally beneficial, it's far from being good in any way shape or form.
Sure I don't think healthcare should be extremely costly either, but it's only extremely costly due to the massive conglomerate corporations who own the medication industry and health industry, and that's globally. Deal with those things before trying to destroy every good hospital out there by ruining them.
“I don’t want the government making decisions for me” wtf does that even mean lmfaooooo the government already does that
I know right? Like, have you ever had to...pay a parking ticket? Pay rent? Have jury duty? Renew your driver's license? Recite the pledge of allegiance in school? Who do they think makes all these rules that they follow?
Well said
So many people don't realize how much we get for free via our taxes. Imagine paying a firefighter a co-pay each time he had to put our a fire, or the police every time you had a break-in or your neighbor is getting attacked by her boyfriend. Imagine if we had to pay for access for parks, zoos, museums, or even to get an Amber Alert put out for a missing child. Or stopping a rescue team from pulling you out of the rubble: "Uh no thanks guys, I'm good. I'll figure it out by myself, hopefully before the oxygen is gone. Just don't send me a bill."
The 2 women in this stating they don’t want the government involved in healthcare are both very very likely Medicare age, over 65, and already have the government involved IN their healthcare every single day. People like this stating ridiculous opinions crack me up....they apparently don’t want the very free things that they already have & are utilizing, super, we as taxpayers are happy to take them away from you then, since you don’t want government healthcare, works for me.
@@Baybarb27 - Exactly, I wish the interviewer asked if they decided not to opt into Medicare and go for private insurance only. I'm betting they kept their Medicare.
Here in Australia we pay 2% of our taxable income into Medicare. It covers everything from cut finger to full cancer treatment. Here is an example only recently in my home state of Queensland. A man got attacked at a boat ramp by a crocodile in a remote community. He got first aid by the Ranger who found him. A helicopter flight to Cairns hospital (The next big city) a 45min flight and full treatment that day. Zero cost to him other than his 2%
same thing in New Zealand (minus the crocodiles!)
"Anything that's free, probably isn't worth having"... Said no-one ever, having been involved in a car accident on a motorway (interstate) in the middle of nowhere and been collected by an air ambulance with full paramedic crew and flown A&E, given lifesaving treatment, surgery, accommodation, TV, WiFi and a daily menu for food for £0/$0 - and even a ride HOME in an ambulance if needed. 'I know I'm wrong saying it, I know I'm lying when I say I don't know anyone who's avoided treatment due to cost but 'Murica so whatever'....
The sad thing is that you’re so uneducated that you actually believe all of that is free.
Over 6 million in England alone are waiting *years* for surgery. Years.
I’ve never known anyone that waited for surgery but ‘NHS is pride of the UK’
Lucy Letby is a hero 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who can't stand that other countries have it better than the US.
“Anything that’s free is not worth having” - someone in a country where they don’t stfu about FREEdom
Lmao right on point dude
Freedom is not and has never been free. It is constantly being fought for.
@@bartdoo5757 Yes but not in a physical way!
There are always, mostly rich, people that want to take your freedom, fighting in that case means, not giving up!
It means vote for the politicians that doesnt want to take your freedoms and gives you more freedoms!
Btw, is gun control taking away your freedom?
Actually no, in the US its only meant to be making sure that no criminals and insane people get guns!
Look at other countries, less killings, but almost as many guns around as in the states!
In my country, germany, there is a strict gun regulation, but there are almost 6 million guns out there!
You just need a need for it, if its being a hunter, sports or safety!
As Taxidriver i could ask for a license, i have to learn the laws, make a test, get checked and then i can buy one, it costs money and i have to lock it up but i can carry it in my job!
Btw i have a gun, a P99, but just the version that is allowed for everyone, a blank gun, as long as i only have it at home its allowed, when i want to carry it i need a so called small gun license, less restrictions and regulations but to fire it there has to be a danger for my life.
Canada has as many guns as the US, but less problems!
But free =/= Freedom.
that sounds like some ultimate statement of capitalism (and basically stupidity, since oxygen or love or whatever is fkin free)
The propoganda has damaged the boomer/older generation.
@No Truth Dont Speak To Me the educational system and past racial standards and beliefs, had a tremendous affect on it as well. Since people elected in power and those with wealth have continually gone for antigovernment and anti union, their efforts indeed paid off, since unions are looked down by those that fallow the word of the rich, dont like taxes cause the rich told them to and domt like socialites programs or progressives ones that would better the nation, cause the rich would be hurt or some how it's bad form them to help themselves and others.
@Emily Moss If indeed the young don't embrace the "Greed is good" mantra then with the poor turn at the polls the young are if as you believe so pro one payer system then they hold an even greater blame for not having one. You like many other younger people here want too simple of answers.
Its destroyed them that and insane right wing nut job Christian televangelists
@Emily Moss No what I am saying is that quite simply very few people vote. In an extremely big turn out year only about 25% of the voter eligible to vote show up and vote.
If indeed as you say it is us Boomers that are keeping a one payer system of health insurance from happening. Then the responsibility for allowing that to happen falls upon these under 55 for allowing that to happen by not getting out of there armchairs and voting for people that would make that happen.
I myself was born in 1960 so am at what many consider the last of the babyboomers. Most Boomers I know are working class and they do support an nationalized health care system. On the other hand most of the younger people I know that have either higher paying jobs or are bosses ot self-employed are dead sets against an nationalized health system.
The gist of my argument is that if in fact it is the Babyboomers that have kept a nationalized health care system from happening. With such terrible voter turnouts by Babyboomers, had these under 55 or even 45 truly wanted the change they could have effectively made it happen by merely turning up at the polls and electing these that would have made it happen!
You want too simple of answers! The answer is not as simple as the Babyboom generation was against it. Many of my generation have said that an nationalized health care system was the right thing to do since I was a kid in the 60's.
It is interesting that over all these of us born in 1960 have not done as well financially as peopleborn in the early to mid 50's and before. The Red Scare of 47 to 57 was the starting point of The Powers That Be (PTB) dismantling the gains that union's took a century to make. Unions were took down by The PTB figuring out that you destroy them by buying off union leadership for starters.
There are many more reasons that a nationalized health system hasn't happened in the USA. The ideal that if you work long enough and hard enough you too will be rich. Tribalism and even sexism.
Why should someone my age support a system of nationalized health care that I believe should happen when so many your age seem to be saying that we are the total problem? Are you that far from the eugenics movement of the early 1900's that you would deny health care based on age? Perhaps regardless of the fact that people, y age and older agree that health care should be nationalized in order to protect ourselves we must act to keep you weak?
Life is not simple. Health care issues are not simple. You want to make a simplistic answer to why an nationalized health care system has not happened (blame the Babyboomers!). My daddy would have said it was time to get you head out of where the sun don't shine. (He used much more colorful language though). Stop blaming and look for answers! One of them is that capitalism must be brought down and I can assure you that the PTB will fight that tooth and nail! The Capitalists in the USA see health care has a sign of their power and will fight to keep that sign under their banner.
@Emily Moss yes I was mistaken on the percentage of these voting. But even the percentage being wrong by 1992 these post Boomers had they all voted with these of us boomers that are progressive would have had a huge enough number to changed the laws.
I guess really what bothers me the most about this conversation is that you want to make all of us Babyboomers into A. Holes. While refusing to see all these in your age group that believe if you don't have a good job and private health insurance there is something wrong with you and that if you get sick and die because of that you deserved to die.
As to actually getting a health care system nationalized in the US in the near future. After Trump was elected in 16, I believe that it won't happen the PTB would sooner destroy the US economy then let that happen. There are far too many millennium's and younger that have brought the lies of the PTB. And you have brought into the lies yourself when you put total blame on Babyboomers for the health care issue. The PTB has always used the divide and conquer MO and it just about always works.
You ever notice nations with socialized healthcare aren’t fighting to adopt the U.S. system?
Not Nations, but people within those Nations sometimes do. Usually the wealthy elites.
Yet they’re heavily depending on medical innovation from the US.
@@fatherson5907 US ranks 4th in medical innovation. Switzerland ranks #1, Germany ranks #2, Netherlands ranks #3.
@@fatherson5907 It must kill you that the US isn't number 1 in medical innovation anymore. 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@fatherson5907 You mean Like the Covid vaccine?
I love how they don’t want the government to be make decisions on there health but private health insurance make decision for them everytime
I like how you can’t even string together a coherent sentence.
@@fatherson5907 I love Communism
@@Wishmaster787 Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who cannot stand that other countries have it better than the US.
"you like to pay taxes?"
I like to live in a society full of healthy people where you won't die because you're too poor to afford insulin.
Cos European r not some paranoid psychopath / big bully that so concern about their “superiority/superpower status” , like US who invested all citizens tax $$$ for weapons instead of the well-being of it’s citizens.....US needs to learn to be civilized
Perspective InsideOut perhaps the United States could afford a socialised health service if it wasn’t subsidising the defence of mainland Europe.
Only USA and UK currently pay minimum amount into NATO. Plus American system has its advantages such as very high quality of treatment for those that are covered.
@@maxpowerii7368 Socialized healthcare in the US would cost LESS than the current system.
shingshongshamalama not when you account for stuff like health tourism which costs the NHS tens of millions each year here in the UK.
@@maxpowerii7368 [citation needed]
"Anything that's free is not worth having."
Well oxygen is free so its not worth having it I guess
It's not exactly free, when your socioeconomic status in part determines the quality of the air you breathe, and the complications you get as a result.
Yo Karen had interview
@@Vinkie except it doesn't. Under the NHS everyone gets the same level of care. You can still go private if you want to.
Kardz22 we pay the same amount of taxes as USA but our taxes go to nhs, yours goes to trump’s golf trips
Healthcare is not free because everyone earning over $15000 pays for it through tax ('National Insurance') but it is far cheaper than in the US because almost every operation is paid for regardless of cost. ER, ambulance, blood tests, hospital visits are all free. Doctors do not have a vested jnterest in keeping you sick or doing unnecessary operations, either. Having a baby costs nothing extra.
This is a huge part of the reason why I am considering moving abroad. As an American I make a decent salary but I can’t retire early because I would not be able to afford health insurance so as long as I’m living here I need to continue working for employer sponsored health insurance. At least until Medicaid kicks in in my 60s. I want to have at least some years to work a job I want to work, not to have to work a certain kind of job because of the insurance tied to it. I know there is no perfect system, but I would much rather pay higher taxes than deal with the possibility of 6-9 figures of medical debt destroying an entire life’s worth of savings which happens to SO many Americans here. I’m 43 now; pray for me that I can move abroad (likely to Europe) one day.
If you haven’t moved already I’d recommend countries like: Switzerland, Norway, Germany, the UK and Sweden. All generally have decent to perfect English speakers and have outstanding healthcare.
@@ProtocolAbyss Thank you. I haven't moved yet but honestly the country I was considering is Portugal. Although I will look into the others you have mentioned. I have a very sick parent now that is disabled and doesn't have savings or insurance (they're in a very bad nursing home) so I've been trying to navigate that situation most of this year and it's been extremely challenging. Wherever I move to, it has to be somewhere I can afford to place a full-time caregiver in the home with my mom and I as I can't afford it here in the US. I spoke to a few agencies in Portugal and they were able to give me good costs for placing full-time in-home (actual live in) care, so this is currently my biggest consideration for moving. Thanks for your response.
@@jadexplores2100 Oh those were ones off the top of my head. Others I’d include on the list would also be Italy, Spain, France, Portugal and Canada too. And also no worries, I hope your family gets better and that you guys will be okay!
I hope other there in Portugal you and your mum will do well, take care!
@@ProtocolAbyss Thank you so much!
@@ProtocolAbyss I don't know if you still respond to comments, but would New Zealand be an ideal place to move as well? I'm thinking about moving there.
There are certain things that a country should provide it's people to ensure a healthy, educated population, for everyone no matter what they earn
The country doesn’t provide anything. Money doesn’t appear from thin air.
Get a job, Karen.
The two older women are just so brainwashed. I don’t understand.
In two words: Fox News.
That's boomers for you
Neither do they
Boomers, man!!!!
Black Watch there probably from well off families so never had to worry about healthcare costs
Let me sum this video up
Old person: "I don't like everything about universal healthcare"
Interviewer: "everything you 'know' about universal healthcare is wrong"
Old person: "well. I'm still agaisnt it"
Some people willfully ignore facts just so they can be "right"
Spot on. When the woman said something along the lines of free things are not worth having, I thought she'll never understand the concept of universal health care provided by taxation. The basic problem is the differences in the personal taxation systems in the UK and USA. I'm glad I live in the UK.
Ok boomers. Basically the only reason they don't like it is their own ignorance. Come ot the UK, you will struggle to meet anyone whe would rather scrap the NHS, other than conservative politicians who want to chop it all up and sell it to their billionaire friends .
This sums up most old people's attitudes to everything.
@@Kj16V Yep, and that is change = scary & bad
I love how the guy who does have access to healthcare asks "do you want to pay taxes (so others can access healthcare)?" Actually, yes I do. Many of us are privileged to live as well as we do. With privilege comes responsibility. And healthcare shouldn't be a privilege. It's a right.
So why aren’t you voluntarily paying extra taxes?
You’re just an entitled Karen. Declaring something a right doesn’t magically make it free.
Pay your own bills, KAREN.
You don't need the government to ask more taxes from you, right now you can go and donate 50% of your salary to charity every month. What's stopping your sOLiDaRitY?
@@gabrielflaubert5881 drama-rama. no one is taking 50% of US paychecks.
The funniest part of it all is that the taxes for healthcare in most countries is miles less than paying for insurance, so no matter what you are still losing more money to get treatment in america insurance or not
Most Americans who oppose socialised healthcare are the same kinds of people who would balk at buying something for $4 with $5 shipping, but think they were getting a sweet deal if they bought the same item for $10 with free shipping.
"A fool and his money are easily parted."
Most people who praise socialized healthcare are the same kinds of people who pay 50% of their salary in taxes and then celebrate when they get crumbs in return.
Imagine having to pay for an ambulance. Jesus Christ I can’t even get my head around that.
Here's 911, would you like to pay with credit card or cash?
“Help my dad has had a heart attack”
999: “Oh sorry looks like you don’t have enough.”
@@deathnote939393 unfortunately, that's not how it works. They pick you up, go to the ER, you sign stuff before or after saying you'll pay, then they send you the bill to pay up. So they might help you, but you probably took years off your well-being due to your new debt/bankruptcy. And often times, if you need an ambulance you're not going to be in a position to refuse or get alternate transport to reduce some of the bill.
I am a Foreigner . Called ambulance in Spain stay hospital for 3 days only cost 100 euro food poison . Thanks god has mercy on my soul I didn’t get sick when I was in USA
@@rowo175 when i was in america in 2015, i got the flu, so went to the hospital for some medication (i was on a tour they suggested going to the hospital), $2500 to see a nurse.... i was like.... i can see a doctor back home for free (or private for $75). Thank god for travel insurance is all I can say!!!
paying 900$ a month to insurance: "good" "capitalistic"
paying 40$ in tax a paycheck (80$ a month) for free health care and not having to pay a copay each time you see a doctor: "unfair" "communist"
Except nobody is paying $900 per month.
You’re ignorant and uneducated.
@@fatherson5907 the average price of health care for a single person is 400$ if you are covering more then one person such as a spouse or yes Child (or both) it will multiply buy how many people you are covering
@@rustcrayfish7675 yes, $400 is not equal to $900
@@fatherson5907 however the average household is 2.53. So for just 2 people it cost 800$ and that’s for basic coverage that doesn’t include add-ons like free doctor visit and copays and that can put it above 900 or even 1000$. I’m not saying a NHS would be the greatest thing ever it has it’s flaws just like everything else however. The US needs this option for lower class family’s who can’t afford health care and need assistance and also so that the Insurance companies have competition so their monopoly ends
@@rustcrayfish7675 so the amount of taxes they would be paying would be double. There is no such thing as “free” healthcare. Only idiots believe that.
Low income families get full coverage through Medicaid.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. While your beloved NHS is completely failing against the pandemic, you fools are obsessing over the internal affairs of the US (which have no impact on you at all).
Mind your own business, Karen.
These people against 'socialised healthcare' forget they have 'solialised military/police/ fire brigade'!
Police and fire brigade are funded municipally.
Stop obsessing over our healthcare. Fix your own system.
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who can't stand that other countries have it better than the US
It's unfair to make people pay for situations they have nothing to do with
@@suptumberlumbertumberlumbe9305 So you don't want the fire brigade to help your neighbours out when their house is on fire?
How selfish of you!
Universal healthcare is just health insurance, but without having to worry about who’s in your network or how high your deductible is. It’s the exact same principle, just executed much better.
Except the quality is far worse and you get put on waiting lists for years.
Stop trying to force your third world garbage on us. And learn how to bathe. Why do you always smell horrible?
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who can't stand that other countries have it better than the US.
@@fatherson5907 US healthcare ranks 18th in the world.
Lady: "It is not the job of the government to provide healthcare"
THAT IS LITERALLY THEIR JOB
If not - then why is it their job to carpet bomb countries who have the wrong politics?
It doesn't make sense to me that you can justify 'defending' a country from tin pot dictatorships with oil fields (and prop others up) while not defending people's health at home.
I would love to ask that lady, what she think´s the Governments Job is. And also what she thinks of people who simply are born Impared and can´t get the Job that they would need to proivde themselfs with the Itmes of need.
No.
She'd much rather sponge of her husbands insurance and call it her own accomplishment of being provided for. It's called 'the american way' Laughable
Seriously!!!
"Anything that's free, sometimes it's not worth having."
Ma'am it's an ambulance ride not a cheap cookie sample
Ma'am, would you liek this life saving treatment, it's free?
No thanks because it's free it's not worth having.
Machine starts to flatline beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
Oh well another dead Republican...
@@TheManwithaview This has probably happened.
@@chinggiskhan6678 Sadly, I agree
Well I guess there goes free public (libraries, School /school transportation, parks, services like fire and satiation, and the hundreds of other things paid for by taxes)
@@Dougiewoof I ask people if they vote, yes I vote, who do you thank for your right to vote? Silence. Socialists that's who. More silence....
I love how you managed to interview every boomer in my hometown at the same time.
Boomers should want free healthcare, you end up using it a lot when you get older.. That old woman hasn't had to call in her insurance big time, wait until she does.
My British cousin lives and works in the USA. I remember saying to her make sure your employer has a good health insurance policy. She wondered why. I showed her a video about USA health costs and she went white with fear. Luckily her employer was very good. She had 3 children and a knee replacement and was covered.
Your last sentence just sounds so alien to me. 3 kids and a knee replacement and was covered. In the UK and most of Europe you just go and have your kids and a knee replacement if you need it. Thats it.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~ Plato
Dang!
I would give you another like, but i kinda like how many you've got atm.
Bro, just like bro.
Truth!
Woah!
I was travelling and an American was talking to his friends about visas and wanting to prevent too many immigrants from taking over their system. He noticed I’d overheard and said “sorry, no offence.” I was confused and said “mate, I’m Australian. Why would I ever want to live in America?” He was completely baffled by my comment - didn’t take it as a joke and laugh it off or anything like that. He was just completely puzzled. A few days later, at the same hostel, he asked me what I’d meant. I explained about our Medicare system, our minimum wage (we call them penalty rates) system, compulsory superannuation, minimum leave entitlements and additional loading on holiday pay, preferential voting system, etc etc etc. What was curious is that he wasn’t mad or argumentative, just completely dumbfounded. His entire life he’d been brought up to think that everyone from around the world dreamed of living in America. He didn’t understand that the absolute majority of the West views the US as an experiment, not as a model. He had fallen for the lie that everybody craves what Americans have. Isn’t it genius? What a way to keep a population controlled while believing that they’re the freest. Giving them absolutely no dividends, and make them believe they’re grateful for it. An ingenious kind of prison.
I concur. As an USA citizen I would rather live in Australia. But USA is #1..... In military spending.
Complete and utter waste of tax dollars.
American Exceptionalism is still believed by many US citizens. The US would be a much better place if this was not the case.
Wow; that’s so true. Well observed.
@@DYKWINNING Not only are we #1 in military spending, we are #1 in bankruptcies and financial ruin caused by insane healthcare costs, we are #1 in school shootings and other gun violence, we are #1 in incarceration rate of our own citizens, we are #1 in lobbyist spending, #1 in sugar consumption, and many other terrible things. Not to mention #1 in COVID cases and COVID deaths.
Meanwhile, we are never #1 in positive things. We are #16 in human development (HDI), #19 in citizen happiness (World Happiness Report), #52 in how free we are (World Liberty Index), and #27 in education.
DYKWINNING they still don’t have the best special task force tho, and I oop
Lol I always find it funny when americans say the "but our taxes would go up" line when they're paying hundreds of dollars a month in insurance to an insurance company whose job it is to find ways to not have to cover you. Under universal healthcare, most of that goes away (there's usually still some form of private health insurance, but way less) and your taxes scale with your income, unlike health insurance costs. And universal healthcare actually always covers you. Always. Unlike private healthcare.
I always find it funny how Europoors want to force their failed system on the US while they cant heat their own homes or defend their own homelands.
Nobody wants your state run garbage. Pay your defense bills.
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who can't stand that other countries have it better than the US.
Look out for each other. Doing the right thing as much as you can is important.
Stealing isn’t the right thing.
@@fatherson5907 So why are your healthcare insurance companies stealing from you?
There are 2 camps.
1. People who support socialized medicine
2. People who dont understand socialized medicine.
There are 2 camps.
1. People who understand that other people may have different opinions.
2. Fascists
@@fatherson5907 qoward.
@@nottiification Don't bother, Father son is a troll.
3. People who actually have it and call it what it is: "public healthcare".
This whole "socialized" nonsense is just to scare 'Muricans to think it's "communism" cause "socialized" sounds a bit like "socialism".
How I wish I was kidding.
@@seybertooth9282 I had it for several years under the NHS. It was garbage care, carried out by completely incompetent providers. You’re just obsessed with the US because you’re an insecure coward whose parents did a poor job raising him to have self esteem.
Watching these kinds of videos just makes me realise how lucky I was to be born in Europe
It's pretty cool to be able to travel around Europe with just your ID.
Passports are for loosers.
1st butthurt, keep 'em comming, ladies.
@Mario yes it's totally pathetic to see a society making a combined effort to save thousands of lives while other nations cant even agree on what to do about the crisis and end up doing nothing
@Mario UK more like EwK
I’m born in Thailand, a developing country and I still have way better healthcare than this.
I don’t know WHY they call it SOCIALIZED.. here in Canada we call it a human right
I've been living in Europe for 30+ years, part of our earnings goes for both pension & health care. For any prescription I pay €6,85. Several years ago, I developed asthma, was at the highest level of medication, had problems in regulating my breathing, received a new therapy, which is a shot costing over €3,400/shot. In the first year 7 of them, then every two months, & over time reduced now to 3x a year, my cost €6.85/shot. I had an asthma attacks in Italy, was treated at an emergency room, paid even less for some meds, received no extra costs for the treatment in my home country.
My wife had a double transplantation at one time, paid a little bit for the meals, that was it. We could not imagine what it would cost for her meds that she needs to live. No cost for our daughter's birth.
One can always pay extra for private insurance, same as in Canada, and have both coverages. Unless one lives it, you will never know. I also have excellent doctors.
Socialized medicine was our debate topic in 1964 throughout the US, still nothing's done. Health care is a right!
Don't bother, Father son is a liar and a troll. He's a butt hurt American who can't stand that other countries have it better than the US.
Everyone in Europe pay taxes, just half of it don’t go to the army like in the USA. It’s not about paying more, it’s about knowing where that money should go first
Dee Dee exactly, just look at the budget of the us, health care and education are just a joke. How to kill the poor 101 and having dumb and easily manipulated youth... it’s scary
At the very least we need to stop the 700 to 1000% price gouging that would be a great start.
@@julienpastis3355 but it's the youth that advocates for universal healthcare and other social policies.
Under our progressive tax system, half the population doesn't pay federal taxes. Would that be true with Scandinavian or European countries...NO! The problem is not the military budget, the problem is that if people want to receive Health Care, like Scandinavians and Europeans, they're going to have to contribute to the system...hello!
@@dmannevada5981 under your progressive system, people die because they can't pay. We pay taxes that go back into healthcare, retirement plans. Everyone pays for everyone.
It's cheaper to get a gun than to have a baby and you want to talk about a "progressive" system?
Education must be f*cked up too then
Getting a child delivered in Australia cost $7 for parking.
Plus gas...
@@eland65 ok, fair point, that should take the total to $8.13.
@@James_taylor810 nah, ups's rate would be like 375, american...
@@eland65 XD I laughed way too much at that
@@James_taylor810 yeah that's too much, gonna pass on that.
There are definitely pros and cons to this kind of system. While the NHS seemingly works well in the UK, in Canada it's another story. People are dying in emergency waiting rooms, sometimes ambulances don't show up at all, and family doctors are hard to find.
Canada seems to be infamously bad when it comes to anything related to time. This is not the case for all socialized healthcare
The nhs doesn't work in the uk either. While it's better then american healthcare, it's one of the worst in europe.
@@views-kb6sv True that the NHS isn't perfect, but Canada's healthcare is worse than that of some third-world countries.
Everyone pays for it collectively. America pays more than any other western nation per capita and as a percentage of gdp for health care and yet has 34% of the population with no health care. So you pay more and the total population gets less. Costs are inflated by insurance companies and people avoid getting help for expensive, essential medical aid, because they can't afford it.
"You like to pay taxes?"
Actually, I don't mind paying taxes so we can have roads, schools, hospitals, etc. I happen to live in a country with a socialized health care system. I gladly pay taxes so people can live.
Agreed, but we do need to keep corruption and greed in check politicians have a habit to expense everything and lining their pockets.
@@anthonyhoban673 How about the health care providers in the US. I would say they're the biggest crooks of all. Of course they don't want socialized health care, it would literally be the death of them.
@@johnmulligan455 yeah?
So true, I don't mind paying my taxes and the fact that people don't want to contribute to the greater good is frustrating to say the least.
Or paying taxes for trumps weekly golf trips
"Do you like paying taxes?" Don't know. Do you like paying 5 grand for a trip to the ER?
I would say this to him: "Yes, I would pay up to about 20% in tax if it provides basic healthcare for a fellow human being. Every human being deserves to live even if they are not a productive member of the society. That being said, if possible, I do not want to pay my taxes if it is used to kill a random child in Iraq."
I don't mind paying 39% of my wage in taxes if it means I won't have to pay over 10.000 dollars for my child being born, or 3000 dollars for an ambulance, or 600 dollars for 2 pens of vital yet readily available medicine.
Please, take 39, 40, 42% of my wage if it means all of that won't be a problem for me!
Then again, if the US just taxed the 1% properly they wouldn't have ANY problems at all. 1,4 million taxpayers in the US earn an average of 1,7 million dollars a year. That's the 1% right there.
Imagine what the government could do with just half of all that money.
2.380.000.000.000 dollars
If the government had just half of that, and 1 year to use it, they would be capable of fixing so many issues.
The US has just under 25 trillion in debt, and if the 1% payed HALF of their yearly income (1.190.000.000.000) for 21 years in a row, the US would be debt free and still have money readily available.
I like paying taxes for everyone to have healthcare. Is that wrong?
@@Bloodclotzzzzzzzzzzz no... But bloodclots are bad
I like paying taxes. It means that I get to live in a country that has you know.... The stuff....
I love how Americans have been convinced it’s unamerican and unpatriotic to want healthcare from their government. And that somehow it would impact their freedom. Also just get over the fact that you pay taxes! It’s cheaper then paying for private healthcare. The level of gullibility and naivety but also arrogance on this topic by so many American citizens who love America out loud is crazy!
I live in Scotland, we have our own government. We do not pay for health care , drugs or medication . Ambulances are free . Obviously we do pay into our health insurance , through our taxes , after retirement we continue to benefit from everything being cost free . Dental care is not free , we make a small contribution around $18 US for treatment. After retiring we enjoy free bus travel to anywhere in Scotland.
That old woman heard the word “social” and turned off right then. Not worth speaking to people like her.
Too proud and stupid to listen or change her mind
social media must be communist propaganda!
@@intercity4553 I have come across a fair number of them who seem to genuinely believe that
agreed just let them die from the covid
@@cacapopocaca4842 Actually you don't have. Demography is in favor of young people. They must go vote, be heard and take the power that legitimately belongs to them!
It's actually infuriating to listen to those boomers talking nonsense.
They are working at creating younger right wing radicals too. Not sure this is completely a generational thjng
@Tracy Lynn fox news and other propaganda organizations (such as religion9, will sadly perpetuate republicanism for some time to come.
My brother had pneumonia last year (UK). He received scans and a hospital bed within 30 minutes of arriving. He actually walked out of the hospital richer than when he walked in as he called into work for sick pay. While receiving free healthcare.
Well boomer doomer virus now looks like something they wished
Most of them retort with the classic argument "there will be an increase in taxes" but in the US we already pay lots in taxes same as Europe. Its just a matter of how the government spends taxpayer money I think. Sounds like a lot of it is going towards the military and not towards arguably more important services. Idk Im not an expert at all
I am 34 and I live in Sweden .. I have had three varicose veins operations on my legs withing three years .. and I paid .. $90 dollars for all off it and I am waiting for the fourth time to do it soon so ... I would be in debt in the US ..
Nope, you would have gotten much better treatment with no wait time.
Average household debt in Sweden is higher than in the US.
If one doesn't like collective health care, it would be assumed that they would not like collective wealth care (police, fire dept, military, judiciary, government.)
Quite a few Americans seem to think they are their own police force, judge and jury though..
Reporter: “What do you think if ambulances were free?” Person: “Sometimes if something is free, it’s better not to have it” Ok no ambulance for you then.
translation: I would rather you be dead
its not free in the uk im British
@@natty5861 Ambulances? I'm pretty sure they're free mate.
@@natty5861 What are you trying? That no British people are here to call you out? I am not a citizen of the UK and i still got free treatment in hospital after a accident.
We're so used to the high cost of healthcare that the idea of a free ambulance sounds too good to be true lol
its nowhere called "socialized healthcare" except in america lol
Good point, it's just called healthcare for everyone else lol
Don't most countries refer to it as Universal Healthcare?
@@Thule21 Absolutely correct
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That might also be what other Americans call it, but in Europe we just call it healthcare.
@@Thule21 In New Zealand, we don't even have a separate name for it. Its just, the doctors, or hospital. We aren't scared of the cost...
I lived in Shropshire, UK, I'm waiting for my x-ray around two years, I'm in the waiting list.
What do you need the x-ray for?
Sounds like a made up story. Either you failed to provide necessary information, or some part of bureaucracy failed, and you probably should have asked again by now.
In the US some people wait longer for medical procedures, because they have to save up the money.
Regardless the healthcare system, the fact that Americans are price gouged on basic medicines like insulin, epi pens and inhalers which cost 10 to 100 times more for the same drug is a massive con.
Notice everyone who is agaisnt it just assume it is more expensive. Never researched it.
Or knew someone from another country or lived abroad themselves.
Ikr they think America is great,lmao 300 dollars for an inhaler just so you can breathe normally,I'm an asthmatic and in the UK,there is no argument to say it's better to pay 300+ rather than just 12 dollars for the prescription or none if you claim certain benefits
It's because uncle Sam and the corporations have been using anti-healthcare propaganda in the US for the last ~80 years?? People are so scared they refuse even to think about it.
@@Ibrahim-vx5kq I'm from UK and pay £0?
@Ali Barsnack 3k a year is a lot less than the money i'd have to pay under the US healthcare system
“I don’t want the government picking what I can and cannot do.” Okay but you want private insurers to do the same thing instead??
And at higher cost!
@Yoster Schnauss I have pretty decent state insurance because of where I live and how much I (don't) make, and I have so much more choice and opportunity for healthcare than I did when I was under my dad's insurance it's crazy- oh yeah, my dad works in healthcare so he has always had "good" insurance too.
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@@DarthRayj That's scary, but it is because doctors recieve more money and bonuses for taking in people with government insurance, so a lot of them leave their doors open
@@edwardjames6023 that's definitely not the case in the US with medicare. Doctors receive less from medicare.
Every job has to offer health insurance,how ever what they make wouldn't cover it and other living expenses. Putting a cap on the amount a person has to pay for health care and the amount a Dr. Has to pay for malpractice insurance should take us a step forward. Dr. Deserve to get paid and patients deserve to be treated.
they confuse social with socialism
Older people and non urban communities need to be more informed about the reality of healthcare in the USA. Also, to that woman who said people should find jobs with benefits, she needs to show us where are those employers.
This is why we need to take away their rights
That woman is sooo dumb... rich and dumb...
Every full-time job I've ever had gave me benefits and Costco gives you benefits part time . But it still should be free
Sandra Mariaca I think everyone realizes healthcare sucks here, however, I still don’t want to work to pay for someone else’s care. I work to give my family what they need
@@jaredmackey4511 So if you need a transplant of blood or organs and you can't getting it from your family, you decline?
"I don't believe that our government should be responsible for providing all of us with health care."
The 1st and only priority of a government should be the health and safety of its citizens! What does that woman think the government should be responsible for?!?!
They be like: it's freedooommmm!!11!!!
My eyes rolled so far back into my head when she answered that 🤣🤣🤣🙄🙄🙄
@@Alan-hq6ei My eyes rolled so far back into my head that it severed my optic nerves, and now I have to get surgery to mend them. It's good that I don't live in the US, or I might have been screwed.
Probably building border walls, deporting brown people, and providing militarised interventionism to other countries that haven't asked for it... but certainly nothing like education and health care! 😂
Killing terrorists obvi
I love how you guys say, "Socialized health care", I know what you did there with the double meaning of it.
The slow creep of radicalised Socialism seeming to be the panacea for all societal ills...
Amazing how little people actually know about socialised healthcare. I live here in Britain and am so glad we have free healthcare
Amazing how ignorant people from the UK are. They are so dense that they believe they are getting “free” healthcare after they give 15% of their salary to the failed, pathetic NHS.
So funny that 40% of cancer patients in the UK are waiting over two months for urgent treatment. The NHS is worthless.
@ATHusk you seriously can't be telling me that free healthcare wouldn't work for you. FREE healthcare.
Give the US some time, its a developing country.
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no it is not. The last three years it has gone backwards 100 years.
It's not a More Economically Developed Country. It's not a Newly Emerging Economy. It's a Shrinking Development Country lol.
Go away boomers. You're holding everyone back.
"anything that's free is sometimes not worth having"
An ambulance taking you to the hospital for free....
Erm...
Right. Like your not going to suddenly not want a Ambulance just because everyone can get one with out bankruptcy. lol
I guess the air she us breathing is not worth having then, since it's free xD
She hated it that the uk system is better than the us
@@florindamehmeti3336 even African systems are better than us
in slovakia ambulance takes you to hospital for free, but you will be propably dead till it arrives :D :D
The elderly woman whom the interviewer told she would pay £9 for an inhaler looks to me like she is over the age limit (65yo) in which case charges don't apply and prescriptions are FREE under the NHS. If you watch this video and see this comment and you aren't 65, please accept my apologies.
It might be true what a lot of comments are saying, that those interviewees against universal health care are among the better off Americans. But I have seen the same opinions voiced by Americans who are dirt poor and jobless. For a country that calls itself religious, It is baffling to anyone outside the USA.