I'm a psychologist who does Fitness for Duty Evaluations. This video is spot on. We're not trying to trick anyone, and there's no secret right or wrong answers. The worst thing you can do (for most people) is try to "fake good", because that will invalidate the entire process and that will be the conclusion we send on to the referring department. Just relax, be honest, and be yourself!
Prior use of SSRI, prescribed while in high school and college. Had some brief depression and anxiety, is it the kiss of death for Law Enforcement aspirations? Haven't been on them in 7 years.
@@ProfessorWalker I got fired from my job because my general manager thought I was going to come in a blow his head clean off his shoulders. He also shit himself that day. Poetic justice after giving 30 years of my life to those cheap bastards.
@@shamrock32 Yes, they say it should be treated like any other disease. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! They black ball you immediately. Not to mention how many officers end up capping themselves. But that's because they have anger issues and their wives go off and cheat with younger men.
@@joshgen8533 If you're serious about being in Law Enforcement, then stop smoking or using and just say its been a long time since you last used. If you continue to use, then I guess this career isn't that important.
After going through the hiring process this was my last obstacle. I passed my interview with the committee, passed my polygraph, passed the interview with the lead in the polygraph department. The I sat down on a video call with the psychiatrist. It was a great 30 minute call and absolutely everything went well. At the end he even said I see absolutely no reason you wouldn't be a good fit for the job and good luck in the academy. Yesterday I got an email saying the psychiatrist recommended that I not get the job. So this Hack who probably thinks he'd the shit really screwed all of my hard work up and lied to my damn face. Needless to say I don't trust any psychiatrists anymore.
I've passed and failed psych tests in the past. It happens, the best part about it is that its only one person's opinion. You can go apply to another agency if you should fail.
I took my nypd psych yesterday and it went terrible. It was the most humiliation I’ve ever endured. I hate that I have to wait a week to know for sure that I failed
@@ProfessorWalker i ended up passing it. I just went with the flow, did not over think the questions, spoke to the psychologist for 10 minutes, and answered truthfully.
Hello I took my psych test and i failed. The reason I think I failed is because i wasn't shown as being social while selecting my answers. The department must really like me because they sent me a DQ letter but told me to disregard it and to come in an retest this upcoming week. I have passed all other test and oral board interviews. Do you think when I retest I should be a tad more social when answering the questions? Thank you. Update I passed and now I’m in the academy
Oh goody. Now try to study and learn the US Constitution. You will be tested at every turn. Approach from the passenger side with your gun drawn. Don't mess around with people with tinted windows. Shoot them out if need be. It's for your own safety.
I was honest, reasonable, and realistic when I did mine and did not pass this phase. Personally, I think I should have portrayed a better positive impression even if the answers seem "too good to be true" who knows I might have passed
I’m currently seeking employment through the Miami Dade school police 👮🏾♀️ department and we also have to take a psych evaluation and a polygraph test before going into the Academy ...it is a hard process longer than I ever expected but thank you for the video it was very helpful🙏🏾♥️
Thanks for the information! I live in Romania and want to apply for a police job. Here departments have their own specialized officers that do psych tests for applicants. The test is very similar to US tests. Its interesting how lots of information from you applies to Romanian Law Enforcement aswell. Very useful! Thanks again for your help ( I couldnt find any romanian cop to tell me about these tests, here the police are not that open to the public.) 👮👮♂️👮♀️🇷🇴🇺🇲
I took my psychological exam and was consider “too perfect” on my answers. He gave me another chance to retake the exam and told me to answer truthfully and honestly and re-read the questions. But that’s what i have been doing throughout the whole exam. I was calm, relaxed and re reading the questions. Any advice?
@@ProfessorWalker re-taking it next week on Wednesday. He said he thinks i got it on another try. But i will only be taking the MMPI test. The rest are good. However i could say that some 3rd parties questions (that doesn’t involve with me) are tricky to me
One question I keep coming across on psych evaluations is.. "Do people cheat to get ahead in life/career?" A lot of questions I was asked were about other people's actions and what I think... Do you think you could maybe explain what the idea is behind those questions.. thank you
The majority I would say do not but again, it’s your personality test. I’d say most people achieve where they are in life based on merit. If you answer otherwise you come off sounding a little conspiratorial which may in the end lead to you sounding delusional. There are plenty more questions of this nature on MMPI-3 test. If you answer this one question like you did and the rest fine it should t affect the outcome for the worst IMO.
The state of Texas is now requiring the MMPI for armed security officers, there are people who have been in the industry for years being forced out, even though they've had no issues or incidents in their line of work
@@Toastandbananas130 congrats! Good luck! What state r u in? I’m in Oregon. I don’t go to the academy until March because they aren’t doing too many classes at one time because of Covid
@@Smyth1122 California. Wow really? That’s a bit of a wait. We’re getting as many academies as we can because we’re losing so many deputies because of the mandates.
@@2KCamaroZ28SS i agreed i passed tougher one's but I'm not surprised it's from local department psych that have contracts they don't share to you but to them that's when i knew it's bulsh17 and went contractor
How’s it going mr walker i was in your aj and forensics class in HS. Thank you for inspiring me to work in LE! I’m about to start the academy with a PD down south!
I passed the polygraph, unfortunately I didn’t pass the psych test, the dr told the agency I was applying to that I wasn’t compatible, but won’t give me any further information regarding my test. Bothers me that they won’t disclose that with me.
Just took my psych eval today. I felt like I was as honest as I could be. However, I didn't get a good vibe from the psychologist. Maybe I'm just overthinking it, but any advice would be helpful!
I just took mine as well. I’m a bit nervous I’ll get the “thanks but no thanks” call soon. I feel “meh” about it but I have my doubts and my hopes. I hope you pass yours!
I failed mine, and the doctor never said it was a psychological test. She said it was a structured interview. Then I went back to her again and she failed me again. Both times, I was in and out in 15 minutes. BTW I passed my polygraph. Eventually, I had to write letters to the Sherrif, and he gave me a chance and hired me. Idk what caused the lady to do that.
@@anntyler6902 Hey!!! To be honest, it was pretty straight forward questioning. A series of about 400-500 constantly repeating the same question just different wording. The interview with the doc itself was also a piece of cake. They asked me questions such as “Tell me about yourself?” “What are your hobbies?” “Is there anything about the police officer position that worries you?” Very simple.
I took one today , took the personality test and it went well I was honest about everything... whenever I met the psychologist he scimmed through my packet and seemed very rude.. I kept my cool answering all the questions but it seemed like he simply didn’t care.. I was the only one to show up in a suit and tie yet others were dressed causally.. it seemed very unprofessional.. the “interview “ part lasted like 30 seconds.. what do I do. Update- I didn’t get selected
It says you updated your comment a year ago. Did you retake this Psych Eval recently? If so, how did you do? I failed mine as well. I’m retaking it tomorrow 😐
Bro. My psych was rude too!! Called me a liar. Cuz everyone lies. And then I told her I don’t get angry and she said well that’s a lie cuz everyone gets angry at some point. And that I’m rude. And I wasn’t taught manners. I haven’t got my results yet but I don’t think I’m getting selected.
I passed everything but they requested my VA Comp and Pension evaluation report. I'm a two time combat vet rated for PTSD and tbi. These records they requested are from 8 years ago and extremely personal. I'm fine now and have been working an armed security job for almost a year. I'm worried my VA records from 2011 will disqualify me even though I've passed everything else in the hiring process.
My stepfathers and mother used to lie to therapists about my mental health to get benefits on their part. I don’t have any mental health issues and never have. Is that something I should bring up during a psych eval?
Hey man I passed the 1 on 1 interview with the psychiatrist. He said he would put me through and things went well as long as I passed the written exam which was like 590 true or false questions. I did not pass that. What can you recommend for the next time I take it. If I’m gunna be completely honest I was very nervous taking the test. It did come easy to me but I did try and memorize patterns on the test instead of answering each question individually.
I just took mine and the psychologist didn't say much but what he did say was positive things. He mentioned things as to when my start date would be.. is this indicating I pass? Or was the psychologist using some sort of tactic
Hi Professor Im all freaked out about my test. Just took it today. Four hours of tiresome questions, two exams. I cant help but feel like I failed. Wish I saw this before I went in .
Answer how you feel. If you try and outthink it, you will lose. They will detect deception because there will be inconsistencies. Just answer the question and move on
Great video! Can you tell me a bit about how an applicant who takes psychotropic medications for a mental health condition affects an applicant’s psych eval and their eligibility?
@@chris-dd6uq aren’t you supposed to receive an email telling you you don’t qualify? That’s wild, what’s the point of having an investigator in charge of your case ?
Very good question I have know idea of you can , I’m sure once they find a ounce of weed in your system you won’t be considered for hire which suck because I’m from Colorado we’re it legal and cops I know here smoke
Yes, it would be a similar process. The written psych tests will help a psychologist determine your fitness for duty. Just do your best to answer the questions without overthinking it.
@@debonairecatalina6570 You will do just fine. Good luck to you and I wish you much success in the Air Force. I was a Marine but my dad was in the Air Force so I have nothing but respect.
@@ProfessorWalker I hope for the best as well. My father served in the marine corps during desert storm & my grandfather too, was a marine. I appreciate what you have done for our nation as well as your father. As far as the Air force goes, enlisting is simply an opportunity that will only arise once & itll set me up for LIFE, and IF I get killed In action... it beats choking on my own fluids in a hospice center.
My stepson is OCD with depression, sleep disorder, suicide & intrusive thoughts plus obesity. I think he lie trying to get in. Will the police accept OCD candidates? He's currently obsessed about joining.
No, I can say with certainty he won't. The psychologist will figure that out. Does he have any medical records that indicate any of this? If so, automatically that will be disqualifying. You have to give them access to all medical records.
Yes, and I would highly recommend that you not become a cop. Policing makes all of our mental health conditions worse. I have my own issues so I am not saying that to discourage you, but to give you reality.
@@ProfessorWalker dude, there are plenty of cops on anxiety meds etc. Not all anxiety is equal and I believe it may help with empathizing with people in the long run.
@@returnfreedom it would definitely help you empathize but there are significant liability issues in hiring someone with known psychological disorders. It doesn't matter what either of us think, the reality is you are not going to get hired on anxiety meds.
All the psychological evaluation tells me the people who pass are good at passing these types of screenings. I want to know what percent make it all the way to the psychological evaluation phase, but don't pass this part and why (specifics).
My son apply for the law enforcement academy recruit he pass his physical test and his background investigation now he have a conditional offer now hes waiting on the psicological exam interview with the Doc then he have to wait for the employment hired so he not scared with the psicological exam because he said its easy to pass it
@@ProfessorWalker Doctors are usually the worst people in society. They are power drunk sociopaths that think they are gods. Not all but certainly many.
@@menssuccessbible3806 That's exactly how I would describe cops. I heard a cop today saying that these tests are used to find overly aggressive and insensitive people because they think cops need to be this way to do the job...which is on it's face ridiculous. All cops are bad because they take an oath to enforce all laws even the laws that cruel, wicked and unjust.
I took mines and my psychologist was nice I had a problem but she wrote everything down and gone renter them in the computer she said I how my family feel about me becoming a police and officer and she was saying I’m like this department, but I had some flaws about antisocial I explain it and she understood what I was trynna say , so her telling me ima love this department mean I pass?
Probably not. The reason would be that policing has a lot of psychological trauma involved with it and then you would be at higher risk for PTSD and other issues. If it is just a temporary depression then you might still be ok.
2:24 “I don’t THINK you would be a good fit for this career”. That is the problem with psych exams. Too much power given to one person. I applied for an agency where the psychologist didn’t “think” military veterans were fit to be police officers so she failed EVERYONE with prior military experience.
There definitely has been some abuse of that. But there is a lot of data to support that certain personality traits and characteristics are not a good fit. A good example is someone who has already experienced significant trauma in their life. They can do the job perfectly fine but they are at much higher risk for developing disabling PTSD.
i just failed by test due to childhood trama. ugh im so annoyed that i failed because of that. i dont even know if i can reapply im in nc charlottee. any advise?
I failed 3 and every time i try to apply to a different agency they never call back after the background check so i believe it does. Also police departments run credit checks so they will see the last department that ran a credit check on you and they will call the department and ask why didn't they hire you thats when they will notify them that you did not pass the pych evaluation
Professor Walker damn, that’s discrimination...because I see a psychiatrist and follow a treatment plan, I am in remission and stable. Would suck to be kicked out before being given a chance.
@@sweetascandyxoxo it is because the stress of law enforcement would be bad for you. Depression, PTSD, alcoholism, and anger issues are all real consequences of a law enforcement career. You would be at very high risk. I suffer from those things myself.
Professor Walker not anymore than the average person because I am medicated. I’m still going to try because I have a Human right to not be discriminated against when I have otherwise proved I am 1. Able to preform the job 2. Pass the psychological assessment with the diagnosis proven to be inapplicable, I even have a letter from my psychiatrist and years of documentation proving I am stable. Anyway I’ll let you know what happens. It’ll be a long time from now. Good luck to you and god bless.
@@Alex-bd5dz I looked through all of my email and I couldn't find anything. Please send it to me again at smokenlaw@gmail.com and I will be looking for it.
To expand upon my comment.....It is my understanding that usually tests are given to determine if someone is qualified for something. Are you qualified to graduate high school? Are you qualified to practice medicine? Can you safely land an airplane? Etc... As you were stating in your video, you said that the psychologists were looking for honest answers / responses. If someone is clued in to what answers the person (psychologist) giving the exam wants then they are going to possibly change their response thus making it a less than authentic response. If someone's first response is to manipulate or try to outsmart the test or test giver, that in my humble opinion would be a very honest insight.
@@mattbrewster726people are nervous taking these tests. The point of the video is to be honest and to alleviate some nervousness. Help qualified people achieve their goals. Somehow you see that as bad.
@@mattbrewster726 do you think it should go back to the old days when the only people who got the information on how the tests work were the families of officers? And do a little research, many large agencies make this information available to applicants in hiring seminars. This isn't top secret information. Police departments would rather candidates are as informed as possible. But since you know best, we can put you in charge of hiring at your local agency.
Patience... The written portion of the test is usually some form of the MMPI. The interview with the psychologist is to confirm any findings from the written and to see if your personality is suitable for law enforcement. They are looking to see if you are too aggressive or too passive, things like that.
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I'm a psychologist who does Fitness for Duty Evaluations. This video is spot on. We're not trying to trick anyone, and there's no secret right or wrong answers. The worst thing you can do (for most people) is try to "fake good", because that will invalidate the entire process and that will be the conclusion we send on to the referring department. Just relax, be honest, and be yourself!
Thanks Scott.
Prior use of SSRI, prescribed while in high school and college. Had some brief depression and anxiety, is it the kiss of death for Law Enforcement aspirations? Haven't been on them in 7 years.
So nothing to really worry about
@@ProfessorWalker I got fired from my job because my general manager thought I was going to come in a blow his head clean off his shoulders. He also shit himself that day. Poetic justice after giving 30 years of my life to those cheap bastards.
@@shamrock32 Yes, they say it should be treated like any other disease. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! They black ball you immediately. Not to mention how many officers end up capping themselves. But that's because they have anger issues and their wives go off and cheat with younger men.
Just passed one and got an official offer. Tell the truth. You aren’t as different as you think.
So what about marijuana use ?
@@joshgen8533 What about it? Lol... 98% of people have tried Marijuana.
S Scott Yea but, what about a regular user ? Wouldn’t they find out ?
@@joshgen8533 If you're serious about being in Law Enforcement, then stop smoking or using and just say its been a long time since you last used. If you continue to use, then I guess this career isn't that important.
@@Sscott1985 *How about smoking cancer cigarettes 🚬 is that healthier than marijuana?*
After going through the hiring process this was my last obstacle. I passed my interview with the committee, passed my polygraph, passed the interview with the lead in the polygraph department. The I sat down on a video call with the psychiatrist. It was a great 30 minute call and absolutely everything went well. At the end he even said I see absolutely no reason you wouldn't be a good fit for the job and good luck in the academy. Yesterday I got an email saying the psychiatrist recommended that I not get the job. So this Hack who probably thinks he'd the shit really screwed all of my hard work up and lied to my damn face. Needless to say I don't trust any psychiatrists anymore.
DAMN
Oh yeah, they're a joke
Wow………. I just had mine and she hammered me. Calling me a liar. And have no manners. And rude. I’m like dammm is this how it’s suppose to go. Geeze.
bro, that's sad story, i don't blame you, why you hate the psychiatrist.
Everyone has disorders… some just hide it better
I've passed and failed psych tests in the past. It happens, the best part about it is that its only one person's opinion. You can go apply to another agency if you should fail.
Exactly correct.
Oh dam fr
After working as an armed security officer for 20 years I got denied cause of that psychological exam.
I took my nypd psych yesterday and it went terrible. It was the most humiliation I’ve ever endured. I hate that I have to wait a week to know for sure that I failed
How it go?
what did they ask you
Same here, they were bringing up stuff that happened all the way back in 2006
More people need to come forward with the real experience of this exam....
It is complete horse shit and completely subjective. If you don't jive with the "doc" you're not going to pass. It's a game...
@@2KCamaroZ28SS What do you mean jive?
@@colepattison6809 vibe maybe
@@colepattison6809 Yeah you need to be able to click with the psych quack. Most everything is liberal sheep leftist they're looking for.
He meant jive. Jive is a word. It means to match up/relate with. 😂
This is solid advice. Gave me less anxiety
I am glad it helped
@@ProfessorWalker i ended up passing it. I just went with the flow, did not over think the questions, spoke to the psychologist for 10 minutes, and answered truthfully.
@@nikolailang4157 Fantastic!
Hello I took my psych test and i failed. The reason I think I failed is because i wasn't shown as being social while selecting my answers. The department must really like me because they sent me a DQ letter but told me to disregard it and to come in an retest this upcoming week. I have passed all other test and oral board interviews. Do you think when I retest I should be a tad more social when answering the questions? Thank you. Update I passed and now I’m in the academy
BeastleonTv how honest were you with all your answers? For the written part?? And did u end up changing it to more social answers?
And congrats!
Oh goody. Now try to study and learn the US Constitution. You will be tested at every turn. Approach from the passenger side with your gun drawn. Don't mess around with people with tinted windows. Shoot them out if need be. It's for your own safety.
Congratulations on making it into the academy. Good luck 💪🏻
Congratulations!!! Was it hard ?
going in tomorrow for mine, for my CLASS 1 SLEO position to start off my career. Thanks for the tips!
Congratulations Javier!
and? still on duty?
I was honest, reasonable, and realistic when I did mine and did not pass this phase. Personally, I think I should have portrayed a better positive impression even if the answers seem "too good to be true" who knows I might have passed
Yeah those quacks are a joke
I’m currently seeking employment through the Miami Dade school police 👮🏾♀️ department and we also have to take a psych evaluation and a polygraph test before going into the Academy ...it is a hard process longer than I ever expected but thank you for the video it was very helpful🙏🏾♥️
Thank you so much! I am glad it was helpful.
Thanks for the information! I live in Romania and want to apply for a police job. Here departments have their own specialized officers that do psych tests for applicants. The test is very similar to US tests. Its interesting how lots of information from you applies to Romanian Law Enforcement aswell. Very useful! Thanks again for your help ( I couldnt find any romanian cop to tell me about these tests, here the police are not that open to the public.) 👮👮♂️👮♀️🇷🇴🇺🇲
Did you enter the academy? I’m a Romanian as well, trying to get into police academy:)
@byebye8694 So what ended up happening comrade?
I took my psychological exam and was consider “too perfect” on my answers. He gave me another chance to retake the exam and told me to answer truthfully and honestly and re-read the questions. But that’s what i have been doing throughout the whole exam. I was calm, relaxed and re reading the questions. Any advice?
Apply somewhere else. Or ask for a different psychologist if they will allow it
@@ProfessorWalker re-taking it next week on Wednesday. He said he thinks i got it on another try. But i will only be taking the MMPI test. The rest are good. However i could say that some 3rd parties questions (that doesn’t involve with me) are tricky to me
How was your second test?
I’m taking mine tmw! I’ve had the same scenario as you. I failed my first one because it was too perfect. Taking my second one tmw.
One question I keep coming across on psych evaluations is.. "Do people cheat to get ahead in life/career?"
A lot of questions I was asked were about other people's actions and what I think... Do you think you could maybe explain what the idea is behind those questions.. thank you
I would just say some do and some dont.
The majority I would say do not but again, it’s your personality test. I’d say most people achieve where they are in life based on merit. If you answer otherwise you come off sounding a little conspiratorial which may in the end lead to you sounding delusional. There are plenty more questions of this nature on MMPI-3 test. If you answer this one question like you did and the rest fine it should t affect the outcome for the worst IMO.
The state of Texas is now requiring the MMPI for armed security officers, there are people who have been in the industry for years being forced out, even though they've had no issues or incidents in their line of work
I have a long ways till my psychological screening but im anxious to keep this ball rolling. thanks for the upload Law n Smoke.
Thanks Joel. Good luck and please keep me up to date on your progress.
Any update?
Is it advisable to never pick a unsure/neutral answer? Does it show you're unable to make a decision and would it hurt you passing?
Possibly. Just go with your gut. If you try and outthink it you will trip up and appear deceitful.
I just did mine, it wasn’t as bad as I thought it was going to be.
I have to do this for a medical waiver for the Air Force. Since I had ADD and OCD on my medical history
This really be the hardest part😞
It is important to make sure the career is a good fit
I had my psych evaluation yesterday. Now I have to wait a week for my results. I'm super nervous, I answered all the questions honestly.
how'd it go? you get it?
@@Toastandbananas130 It went great! I was hired in October as a Police Officer!
@@Smyth1122 congrats brother! I just accepted an offer with sheriffs. Orientation is this week and academy starts next week. So excited.
@@Toastandbananas130 congrats! Good luck! What state r u in? I’m in Oregon. I don’t go to the academy until March because they aren’t doing too many classes at one time because of Covid
@@Smyth1122 California. Wow really? That’s a bit of a wait. We’re getting as many academies as we can because we’re losing so many deputies because of the mandates.
I pass all of my process but I have difficulties in passing my psych, what a bummer
Don't stress it. It's a bullshit test.
@@2KCamaroZ28SS i agreed i passed tougher one's but I'm not surprised it's from local department psych that have contracts they don't share to you but to them that's when i knew it's bulsh17 and went contractor
Hey I attend cal state Fullerton and I’m applying to the Fullerton and Santa Ana police department
Those are both awesome places to work!
Best of luck, my brother works for Santa ana police department g-unit
How’s it going mr walker i was in your aj and forensics class in HS. Thank you for inspiring me to work in LE! I’m about to start the academy with a PD down south!
Should you only put strongly agree and disagree when answering questions
Don't try to make yourself look good. Just be honest and don't try to impress anyone while answering the questions.
I passed the polygraph, unfortunately I didn’t pass the psych test, the dr told the agency I was applying to that I wasn’t compatible, but won’t give me any further information regarding my test. Bothers me that they won’t disclose that with me.
That is a good thing they didn't. I hope you understand.
@@DaCom3AK No, it isn't.
Just took my psych eval today. I felt like I was as honest as I could be. However, I didn't get a good vibe from the psychologist. Maybe I'm just overthinking it, but any advice would be helpful!
I just took mine as well. I’m a bit nervous I’ll get the “thanks but no thanks” call soon. I feel “meh” about it but I have my doubts and my hopes. I hope you pass yours!
@@notdave2993 Hope you pass as well bro!
I just took mine as well. I got the same vibes from mine as well. I hope I pass it. I hope y’all passed yalls too!!!
Did any of you guys pass?
@@paullee7776 I hope all you guys passed !! I took mine yesterday I have the same feeling you guys had . I think the instructor didn’t like me
Thanks for the advice brother
I failed mine, and the doctor never said it was a psychological test. She said it was a structured interview. Then I went back to her again and she failed me again. Both times, I was in and out in 15 minutes. BTW I passed my polygraph. Eventually, I had to write letters to the Sherrif, and he gave me a chance and hired me. Idk what caused the lady to do that.
Just passed mine! Pretty simple and straight forward. Be honest and move forward!
What did they ask you, friend?
@@anntyler6902 Hey!!! To be honest, it was pretty straight forward questioning. A series of about 400-500 constantly repeating the same question just different wording. The interview with the doc itself was also a piece of cake. They asked me questions such as “Tell me about yourself?” “What are your hobbies?” “Is there anything about the police officer position that worries you?” Very simple.
@@JesusHernandez-jy1hs Thank you for your response! You're going to do great!
@@anntyler6902 No problem! I am actually heading to the department tomorrow to sign my hiring forms. I will be starting the academy in September.
@@JesusHernandez-jy1hs Wow, I'm so happy for you! Congratulations!
I take my psych exam next week and my medical tomorrow
I took one today , took the personality test and it went well I was honest about everything... whenever I met the psychologist he scimmed through my packet and seemed very rude.. I kept my cool answering all the questions but it seemed like he simply didn’t care.. I was the only one to show up in a suit and tie yet others were dressed causally.. it seemed very unprofessional.. the “interview “ part lasted like 30 seconds.. what do I do.
Update- I didn’t get selected
I wouldn't worry about it. He may have been trying to see if you would react.
It says you updated your comment a year ago. Did you retake this Psych Eval recently? If so, how did you do? I failed mine as well. I’m retaking it tomorrow 😐
Bro. My psych was rude too!! Called me a liar. Cuz everyone lies. And then I told her I don’t get angry and she said well that’s a lie cuz everyone gets angry at some point. And that I’m rude. And I wasn’t taught manners. I haven’t got my results yet but I don’t think I’m getting selected.
@@donutviper1 you can get a retake? For a department one?
@@felipecarlos5642did you get rejected ?
Passed my polygraph for the position of 911 communications officer , and i I have my test scheduled for next week ! Pretty nervous , but I got this
What kind of questions did they ask
I passed everything but they requested my VA Comp and Pension evaluation report. I'm a two time combat vet rated for PTSD and tbi. These records they requested are from 8 years ago and extremely personal. I'm fine now and have been working an armed security job for almost a year. I'm worried my VA records from 2011 will disqualify me even though I've passed everything else in the hiring process.
What happened? I’m in a similar situation
similar situation, what was the word for you?
@@chasemcpot7789 Yo, what happened in your case?
Any word?
My stepfathers and mother used to lie to therapists about my mental health to get benefits on their part. I don’t have any mental health issues and never have. Is that something I should bring up during a psych eval?
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Grads first boarding, then leaving
what they got invited to aboard
the Navy's ship.
So basically we have a lot of people running around with a badge and gun.
Hey man I passed the 1 on 1 interview with the psychiatrist. He said he would put me through and things went well as long as I passed the written exam which was like 590 true or false questions. I did not pass that. What can you recommend for the next time I take it. If I’m gunna be completely honest I was very nervous taking the test. It did come easy to me but I did try and memorize patterns on the test instead of answering each question individually.
BSIS need to come up with a better idea cause the exam for the psychological is a failure!!!!!!!
I just took mine and the psychologist didn't say much but what he did say was positive things. He mentioned things as to when my start date would be.. is this indicating I pass? Or was the psychologist using some sort of tactic
That is a good sign. Not a game.
Edgar ortiz you got the job congrats bro
What type of questions do they ask
Did you pass?
@@soa2444 yes
Hi Professor
Im all freaked out about my test. Just took it today. Four hours of tiresome questions, two exams. I cant help but feel like I failed. Wish I saw this before I went in .
Did you pass ?
Yes. It was the two weeks of waiting that really got me. The psych test should have been conducted first thing rather than the last thing. @@sosaa3436
Thank you!!!!
Thanks for your help mr walker im trying to Apply for CPD soon so need to prepare.
Good luck!
Did you get in ?
Very informative video and than you for your help
Should we answer strongly agree or disagree on answers ? If answering this way does this make me seem impulsive ?
Answer how you feel. If you try and outthink it, you will lose. They will detect deception because there will be inconsistencies. Just answer the question and move on
What if you had suicidal thoughts( not an attempt) in your military career can I still be a state trooper
Im struggling with that rn, I got disqualified due to this (I assume), so I'm appealing.
Great video! Can you tell me a bit about how an applicant who takes psychotropic medications for a mental health condition affects an applicant’s psych eval and their eligibility?
That would make the candidate ineligible.
So, no one in law enforcement takes medications for mental health? I find this hard to believe.
@@lauriem5196 Ok. Apply then and find out for yourself.
Thank you
I can't pass the psych stage to save my life. NYS Corrections DQ'd be twice, and the NYPD never contacted me after the interview. No letter, nothing.
@@greenyoshi48 Corrections informed me by mail both times. NYPD didn't contact me at all.
@@chris-dd6uq aren’t you supposed to receive an email telling you you don’t qualify? That’s wild, what’s the point of having an investigator in charge of your case ?
So what if you smoke weed in California can I still apply , Obviously not on duty but what if I were to smoke off duty ??
Very good question I have know idea of you can , I’m sure once they find a ounce of weed in your system you won’t be considered for hire which suck because I’m from Colorado we’re it legal and cops I know here smoke
You cant smoke at all if you're an officer for LA county. So drop the habit asap if you plan on being in law enforcement
Would this somewhat apply for a mental evaluation for the air force?
Yes, it would be a similar process. The written psych tests will help a psychologist determine your fitness for duty. Just do your best to answer the questions without overthinking it.
@@ProfessorWalker THANK YOU!! I'm going to meps again this Wednesday & I'm doing research to see what I should expect.
@@debonairecatalina6570 You will do just fine. Good luck to you and I wish you much success in the Air Force. I was a Marine but my dad was in the Air Force so I have nothing but respect.
@@ProfessorWalker I hope for the best as well. My father served in the marine corps during desert storm & my grandfather too, was a marine. I appreciate what you have done for our nation as well as your father.
As far as the Air force goes, enlisting is simply an opportunity that will only arise once & itll set me up for LIFE, and IF I get killed In action... it beats choking on my own fluids in a hospice center.
I have my psychological test tomorrow. I hope I'm not disqualified due to me being a combat vetran with mild PTSD.
I wish you luck brother. It is hard to say what they will do. Send me an email at smokenlaw@gmail.com.
Best of luck to you
@Max Janssen ,I'm still waiting on the results. They requested my medical files from the VA. This can take a long time.
Jeff Reid what happened my guy???
@@jeffreid3341 did it ever go right?
I fail the first time have to take it again
My stepson is OCD with depression, sleep disorder, suicide & intrusive thoughts plus obesity. I think he lie trying to get in. Will the police accept OCD candidates? He's currently obsessed about joining.
No, I can say with certainty he won't. The psychologist will figure that out. Does he have any medical records that indicate any of this? If so, automatically that will be disqualifying. You have to give them access to all medical records.
if you have anxiety can that be a disqualification?
Yes, and I would highly recommend that you not become a cop. Policing makes all of our mental health conditions worse. I have my own issues so I am not saying that to discourage you, but to give you reality.
@@ProfessorWalker okay thank you!
@@ProfessorWalker dude, there are plenty of cops on anxiety meds etc. Not all anxiety is equal and I believe it may help with empathizing with people in the long run.
@@returnfreedom once you are working yes. Pre-employment...no.
@@returnfreedom it would definitely help you empathize but there are significant liability issues in hiring someone with known psychological disorders. It doesn't matter what either of us think, the reality is you are not going to get hired on anxiety meds.
All the psychological evaluation tells me the people who pass are good at passing these types of screenings. I want to know what percent make it all the way to the psychological evaluation phase, but don't pass this part and why (specifics).
That sounds like a good research paper
My son apply for the law enforcement academy recruit he pass his physical test and his background investigation now he have a conditional offer now hes waiting on the psicological exam interview with the Doc then he have to wait for the employment hired so he not scared with the psicological exam because he said its easy to pass it
Did he pass ?
Why do so many sociopaths become cops ?
Why do so many sociopaths become doctors?
@@ProfessorWalker Aint that the truth.
Thank you, there are bad people in every profession.
@@ProfessorWalker Doctors are usually the worst people in society. They are power drunk sociopaths that think they are gods. Not all but certainly many.
@@menssuccessbible3806 That's exactly how I would describe cops. I heard a cop today saying that these tests are used to find overly aggressive and insensitive people because they think cops need to be this way to do the job...which is on it's face ridiculous. All cops are bad because they take an oath to enforce all laws even the laws that cruel, wicked and unjust.
I took mines and my psychologist was nice I had a problem but she wrote everything down and gone renter them in the computer she said I how my family feel about me becoming a police and officer and she was saying I’m like this department, but I had some flaws about antisocial I explain it and she understood what I was trynna say , so her telling me ima love this department mean I pass?
Did you pass?? Hopefully so.
Hmm... Can someone pass this while dealing with depression?
Probably not. The reason would be that policing has a lot of psychological trauma involved with it and then you would be at higher risk for PTSD and other issues. If it is just a temporary depression then you might still be ok.
I just had my psych eval. The doctor was nice. I feel confident. Can I email you?
smokenlaw@gmail.com
2:24 “I don’t THINK you would be a good fit for this career”. That is the problem with psych exams. Too much power given to one person.
I applied for an agency where the psychologist didn’t “think” military veterans were fit to be police officers so she failed EVERYONE with prior military experience.
There definitely has been some abuse of that. But there is a lot of data to support that certain personality traits and characteristics are not a good fit. A good example is someone who has already experienced significant trauma in their life. They can do the job perfectly fine but they are at much higher risk for developing disabling PTSD.
i just failed by test due to childhood trama. ugh im so annoyed that i failed because of that. i dont even know if i can reapply im in nc charlottee. any advise?
Email me at smokenlaw@gmail.com
@@ProfessorWalker okay will do
@@ProfessorWalker okay I emailed you
Thanks.
If I failed a psych test would that come up with another department that I apply to?
I failed 3 and every time i try to apply to a different agency they never call back after the background check so i believe it does. Also police departments run credit checks so they will see the last department that ran a credit check on you and they will call the department and ask why didn't they hire you thats when they will notify them that you did not pass the pych evaluation
What if I take suboxone but haven’t had opiates in the last 5 years
I was prescribed by doctor for my car accident never took anything legally
If you took it legally that isn't a problem.
@@ProfessorWalker u sure
Hello,
I actually emailed you and I was wondering if you had received my email?
I got my psychological test on october 22 for my department🤦🏻♂️
Based out in Miami?
@@michaelgarcia5376 yeah bro
Passes?
What is the written test like?
Written psych? It is usually a version of the MMPI. If you search that you will get more information than I can give.
Kurtis Keys
Thank
I passed the lie detected it is the psyc with pictures
Hey sir can I email you I have a question about the test
smokenlaw@gmail.com
What if your bipolar and being honest would show them?
If you are diagnosed bipolar then you would be disqualified. They will have access to medical records so you can't hide that.
Professor Walker damn, that’s discrimination...because I see a psychiatrist and follow a treatment plan, I am in remission and stable. Would suck to be kicked out before being given a chance.
Professor Walker hey thanks for the reply!
@@sweetascandyxoxo it is because the stress of law enforcement would be bad for you. Depression, PTSD, alcoholism, and anger issues are all real consequences of a law enforcement career. You would be at very high risk.
I suffer from those things myself.
Professor Walker not anymore than the average person because I am medicated. I’m still going to try because I have a Human right to not be discriminated against when I have otherwise proved I am 1. Able to preform the job 2. Pass the psychological assessment with the diagnosis proven to be inapplicable, I even have a letter from my psychiatrist and years of documentation proving I am stable. Anyway I’ll let you know what happens. It’ll be a long time from now. Good luck to you and god bless.
Imagine all the bad cops went through this test, and passed it 👀🥴😬
Imagine how many more there would be without these tests
Imagine all the good cops that have taken this test and we're failed because the psych quack didn't like the applicant.
@@2KCamaroZ28SS bingo
@@ProfessorWalkerI fail my test I’m not crazy I don’t understand why I’m a good person now I see why there’s a lot of bad cops
If I don’t pass this test can I just go on SSI then lol since I’m deem not fit mentally 😂
Why not? Murica!
Nice video as always, I sent you an email a while ago, do you think you could take a look whenever you have a chance ?
Hi Alex, sorry about that. Sometimes I miss one or the spam filter gets it. I will look for it.
Thank you sir, keep up the great content !
@@Alex-bd5dz I looked through all of my email and I couldn't find anything. Please send it to me again at smokenlaw@gmail.com and I will be looking for it.
Law N' Smoke I just sent a RE from my previous email back to you again
@@Alex-bd5dz Got it! Response sent.
2019
Don’t waste time and money not accurate at all .
I just failed mine and don’t know why or how.
I am sorry to hear that. You should look into whether or not the agency has an appeal process.
He didn’t say anything 😂 waste of time
You are welcome
I failed the polygraph but I told the truth. What gives.
The polygraph sucks. It gives false positives all the time. That is why it is inadmissible in court. The department may have an appeal process.
Just what we need......something to help people who don't need a badge get a badge. Sigh :-/
Did you watch it? From your comment I don't think you did.
To expand upon my comment.....It is my understanding that usually tests are given to determine if someone is qualified for something. Are you qualified to graduate high school? Are you qualified to practice medicine? Can you safely land an airplane? Etc... As you were stating in your video, you said that the psychologists were looking for honest answers / responses. If someone is clued in to what answers the person (psychologist) giving the exam wants then they are going to possibly change their response thus making it a less than authentic response. If someone's first response is to manipulate or try to outsmart the test or test giver, that in my humble opinion would be a very honest insight.
@@mattbrewster726people are nervous taking these tests. The point of the video is to be honest and to alleviate some nervousness. Help qualified people achieve their goals. Somehow you see that as bad.
@@mattbrewster726 and don't all those people you listed study and prepare for tests?
@@mattbrewster726 do you think it should go back to the old days when the only people who got the information on how the tests work were the families of officers? And do a little research, many large agencies make this information available to applicants in hiring seminars. This isn't top secret information. Police departments would rather candidates are as informed as possible. But since you know best, we can put you in charge of hiring at your local agency.
Thanks....for wasting five minutes of my time. This taught me nothing.
You are welcome!
@@ProfessorWalker I disagree I am no longer worried and will be myself thank you so much!
@@sinnersaved1033 good luck and I hope you make it!
Halfway through and still haven't said what is in the test. CLICK BAIT!!!!!!
Patience... The written portion of the test is usually some form of the MMPI. The interview with the psychologist is to confirm any findings from the written and to see if your personality is suitable for law enforcement. They are looking to see if you are too aggressive or too passive, things like that.