at 3:45 fiora did not get stunned, she used q when jax e ended and managed to avoid the stun just barely, it looks like she had stun icon above her but it was actually a minion getting stunned. You can also see that this is true because she did aa e reset while that icon was present. (I was confused by this because at first I thought she was attacking while stunned :D) This player obviously knows these matchups, jax vs fiora is super common so it is easy to learn the full time on his e but can be difficult to predict if he ends early.
A thing about parry and counter abilities in general, as a player with not Amazing reflexes, you can get very good parries by anticipating a spell after most have been used, or predict a player would use a certain spell in a certain situation, and as its said in the video, find the opponents bias
Every time I see a high end Fiora video I think the same thing; totally respect the playtime and mastery that these players put in, they are amazing and they really deserve praise But fuck that champ is not balanced.
yeah I really gotta give it to them. Though the champ is still unbalanced, they put on the full display of how much more broken they can really be when mastered.
I absolutely hate playing against people that know how to outspace, it's by far one of the most useful abilities you can master to win the early game. Fiora is already a broken champion on it's own but imagine being one of the very best with her, it's borderline toxic having to deal with it. Also, my favorite moment of the video is 10:30. No matter which server and no matter who is playing, always good to see a Vayne top getting destroyed.
Fiora vital works in a way that they always appear opposite of where they were like a dancing pattern for instance during 2:26 play Ryze had a vital to right at first this makes it so the next one will be either down or left side so by flashing to proc vital here not only they get passive ms + dmg but also make sure that the next vital will be most likely upside. so the pattern is always < ^ / v > / < ^ / v > and so on this is also why people that are aware of this get away from the Fiora to reset the vital position to the opposite side during laning phase.
Is there a champ that beats a good fiora in lane? seriously. Heal. AA speed reduction. INVUNERABILITY. true dmg. dash. slow. Scales hard, is good early game with constant poke. Like???
Malphite, Kennen, Jayce, rumble, a good Jax is threatening, Akali… or anybody who just respects the fact that she’s a 1v1 god and quietly farms until teamfighting phase
i hope pro players take example and stop going braindead grasp-divine on every single matchup... in some matchups gore-conq is better. for example at worlds fiora had like 0% winrate vs aatrox because they all went wrong built and tried to go grasp-divine into him, but grasp-divine is good only vs tanks and ranged, for the rest just go conq-gore
Those players are actually good, tho it's hard to say if they are THAT good, don't take it wrong, I'm not an hater, on the contrary, I like those videos, but seeing them playing, they're not doing anything really special, the enemies just have no hand and 0 idea on how LoL works, it's hard to believe that this is a high rank. Example: 12:20 they think is a good idea to 2v1 a Fiora without anti-heals? I hardly see those misstakes at plat level from EUW Another example is at the start of the video, where Fiora fight Camille, why tf Camille is ingaging fiora with more than 50% hp while having less than 10%???? How is that challenger Is Jiking a good player? Well yes, it's not easy what he is doing, but aswell the enemy is not playing properly, it's like seeing a smurf playing, I just wonder that, how they can find so many brainless players at such "high" rank. Good video tho, keep it up, good entrateinment
10:30 prediction: Is playing a champ with both a cripple and slow on the same ability. Probably just mashes buttons and right clicks on her. Vayne E's, Fiora retreats, Vayne chases like a moron, Fiora turns and oneshots. Edit: Yep. I don't care who you are, Vayne top is a terrible pick unless you're against like, Cho or Sion, and even then they can oneshot you. Stop picking it, it's not good. Pick like, Zeri or Akshan instead.
Hello I have a question, I don’t really know when I have to take grasp and when I have to take conqueror, not only about the match up but vs the ennemy team comp ?
A bit late. (8 months late XD) Take it for the matchup. Fiora by nature wants to 1v1 most of the time. Grasp is better when you have a weaker all-in, so you can play off Grasp+Q poke. (This is the safer option, since its much easier for newer Fiora players to all-in after getting the HP advantage via poke. This also lets you go into Demolish a lot easier.) Conqueror is better when you have as good as/stronger all-in. (Higher Risk to Reward ratio. Conqueror will basically allow you to rush Defensive items after winning your early fights without losing too much damage, which leads into a bigger snowball. This also means you need to commit harder to all-ins as compared to grasp.)
This is what happens when the champ has optimal rune just for her kit , a highly mobile champ + high counter potential w + tower destroyer e and a 100% health base true dommage r ultimate , literally no counterplay if played well
Fiora has plenty of counterplay even if she's played perfectly. She has champion pick counters, itemization counters, as well as simple gameplay counters.
@@xTypho A counter is not an auto-win. If a player gaps the other by a significant amount in skill then they will still win. Doesn't erase the majority of times where Gragas and Malphite players shit on him if you actually watch the stream. But I guess you think if a bronze player has the counterpick then they will win against even a challenger player, LMAO.
Basically this champ almost have no bad matchups. I believe your counter is being a weaksided, whenever your team loses other side of the map. Also, it's not that easy to secure a kill as a fiora, so most fiora players are playing with ignite to get early kills and scale faster. Which is not safe because you can't safe exp in case being ganked and dead.
@@viktorzebra1046 XD you have never played fiora then,. every ranged champ beats fiora if they have 2 hands, sett daruis olaf jax ww teemo jayce kennen, are all awful matchups pre 6 and can all run down you early if you dont respect them
@@tristanoce5233 playable anyway. U outscale most of them, and also most of them have to play aggressive to use their early prio over fiora. Playing agressive means that ur getting a prio top but on the other hand ure in danger if you weakside.
Actual in Chinese sever he only conquer but ,in Korean he major grasp for stability,he says if u like once fight decide dead is conquer such as Riven,Atrox,if u need reptitious fight to consume rival's blood is grasp.
I don't really get the first clip. He had more HP than Malphite, couldn't prevent him from farming the wave AND fed him 400 gold. The first play wasn't good at all for him, he just reset to base with Malphite and handed him an extra 100g for the troubles. There was no advantage in this play for him at all.
@Shinji sure buddy Bunch of 1 trick ponies streamers playing 10 hours a day getting hard carried by Korean solo players just like Tyler 1 Skill wise NA/EU are at best bronze in Asian servers
I love seeing perfect spacing, it's so satisfying
Oh bard god
@@LoLDobby dobby god
@@LoLDobbybard video coming soon??
Omg Its my idol
And we love seeing you
This guy truly impressed me, he seems way above some of the other players you've brought before, GG!
Luck mostly
@@Haunuva luck can't be challenger in kr server and solo against Zeus and get kills
Korea challenger
glad to see dobby talking about the champ take i ban every single game as a former ornn main xD good vid as always
at 3:45 fiora did not get stunned, she used q when jax e ended and managed to avoid the stun just barely, it looks like she had stun icon above her but it was actually a minion getting stunned. You can also see that this is true because she did aa e reset while that icon was present. (I was confused by this because at first I thought she was attacking while stunned :D)
This player obviously knows these matchups, jax vs fiora is super common so it is easy to learn the full time on his e but can be difficult to predict if he ends early.
9:22 I miss old hydra, pls riot give it back
its back :D
A thing about parry and counter abilities in general, as a player with not Amazing reflexes, you can get very good parries by anticipating a spell after most have been used, or predict a player would use a certain spell in a certain situation, and as its said in the video, find the opponents bias
this guy is in whole another level. very well plays from each game. lot of things to learn.
刚哥出息了
The leesin q at 5:05 was pretty sick too
He didn't even mentioned it. Probably just an average lee sin in KR
@@ericjorgearnezinochea9679nah that’s Art Lee in his most previous video he’s an insane Lee in KR
Fun fact, jj in jjking is actually a abbreviation for the fiora chinese name
surviving that nunu gank was nutty
It was funny how at the beginning he was just gonna take the portal and be done. Then Renekton signed his own death warrant.
Every time I see a high end Fiora video I think the same thing; totally respect the playtime and mastery that these players put in, they are amazing and they really deserve praise
But fuck that champ is not balanced.
yeah I really gotta give it to them. Though the champ is still unbalanced, they put on the full display of how much more broken they can really be when mastered.
I prefer this over ksante
toxic emotes and taunt
I absolutely hate playing against people that know how to outspace, it's by far one of the most useful abilities you can master to win the early game. Fiora is already a broken champion on it's own but imagine being one of the very best with her, it's borderline toxic having to deal with it.
Also, my favorite moment of the video is 10:30. No matter which server and no matter who is playing, always good to see a Vayne top getting destroyed.
Title : The Secrets of jjking, Super Server's Fiora God
First clip : him getting outplayed
Fiora vital works in a way that they always appear opposite of where they were like a dancing pattern for instance during 2:26 play Ryze had a vital to right at first this makes it so the next one will be either down or left side so by flashing to proc vital here not only they get passive ms + dmg but also make sure that the next vital will be most likely upside.
so the pattern is always < ^ / v > / < ^ / v > and so on this is also why people that are aware of this get away from the Fiora to reset the vital position to the opposite side during laning phase.
I don't play Fiora so I'm watching this to learn to counter her (also known as banning)
playing against a good fiora is so fucking frustrating
reworked jax
nice video. I just wish the music is a little louder like your older videos
I turned it down because I thought it was noisy, but should I turn it up?
@@LoLDobby I'm not sure what others like, but I like it louder. Maybe try doing a poll?
Is there a champ that beats a good fiora in lane? seriously. Heal. AA speed reduction. INVUNERABILITY. true dmg. dash. slow. Scales hard, is good early game with constant poke. Like???
Jayce
Malphite, Kennen, Jayce, rumble, a good Jax is threatening, Akali… or anybody who just respects the fact that she’s a 1v1 god and quietly farms until teamfighting phase
COUNTER POPPY W WITH Q-W
WTF i'm losing my mind over this guy
i didn't even know that worked
At 2:50 fiora didnt use E flash, it was just AA Flash into E
right QAflashE1E2 8 Conqueror
Dobby can we get a bot focus vid that dominates on early game how to win just like top
Love the vids as usual that fiora main is disgustingly good
Good video. But I liked seeing Runes at the start more
Thank you for your opinion !
i hope pro players take example and stop going braindead grasp-divine on every single matchup... in some matchups gore-conq is better. for example at worlds fiora had like 0% winrate vs aatrox because they all went wrong built and tried to go grasp-divine into him, but grasp-divine is good only vs tanks and ranged, for the rest just go conq-gore
i hope dobby see this comment since im a big fan of you. CAN YOU MAKE A VIDEO LIKE THIS ABOUT RIVEN BY MR AZHY
Let's take a look :)
@@LoLDobby luv u😗
FINALLY A VIDEO ON MY GOATTTTTTTTT
Hey Dobby can you make an azir video after the recent changes that incentivize W max? :))
I'm thinking about it, too :)
0 MS latency what a dream
Those players are actually good, tho it's hard to say if they are THAT good, don't take it wrong, I'm not an hater, on the contrary, I like those videos, but seeing them playing, they're not doing anything really special, the enemies just have no hand and 0 idea on how LoL works, it's hard to believe that this is a high rank.
Example: 12:20 they think is a good idea to 2v1 a Fiora without anti-heals? I hardly see those misstakes at plat level from EUW
Another example is at the start of the video, where Fiora fight Camille, why tf Camille is ingaging fiora with more than 50% hp while having less than 10%???? How is that challenger
Is Jiking a good player? Well yes, it's not easy what he is doing, but aswell the enemy is not playing properly, it's like seeing a smurf playing, I just wonder that, how they can find so many brainless players at such "high" rank. Good video tho, keep it up, good entrateinment
10:30 prediction: Is playing a champ with both a cripple and slow on the same ability. Probably just mashes buttons and right clicks on her. Vayne E's, Fiora retreats, Vayne chases like a moron, Fiora turns and oneshots.
Edit: Yep. I don't care who you are, Vayne top is a terrible pick unless you're against like, Cho or Sion, and even then they can oneshot you. Stop picking it, it's not good. Pick like, Zeri or Akshan instead.
I have a question , at 8.49 he have 2 point in R and 4 in W, is it something he is doing often or miss click ?
miss click
miss click
miss click
Miss click
Ms. Click
Doublelift recommended your channel :D
It's such an honor..!
it's him. Himmothy! Himmy neutron! freaking HIMMEY JOHN!
3:18 what happened to "RIIIIGHT THROUGH THE COUNTERSTRIKE"?
"let's wrap with a montage"
huh? wasn't that a montage already? I had to rewatch the video to read cause i kept getting distracted from the gameplay.
That Riven skin doesn't even look like Riven. Rito come on.
is he playing in bronce? That junglers dives gifting kills... strange
That spacing and timing is so BS it feels like these players are being played by perfect AI's
恶魔波刚
I can play almost at this level, but im still super low rank because i dont understand macro lol
as a 800k mastery fio. this is the best ive ever seen. truly a delight to watch.
i get why im iron 1
It's funny that some of them don't even have heal reduction playing against Fiora.
Dont forget the body block also in the earlier clips
RIIIIIIIGHT THROUGH THE COUNTERSTRIKE
jjking plays well while his stream is just like tyler1
He is just so famous on slack off in game lol
JaJiKing
6:40 they are always toxic 100% of the times lmao
Why everyone goes to Korea?
08:46 "Dovahkiin" ??????
always comming thru with the best league content
the new ad katarina is extremly absurd, i saw someone in practice tool made her ult deal like 20k damage or something
尴尬的!
刚god！
This guy is like dzukill but with fiora
cold bro
Do another samira video. so much has changed with her since the last one
Hello I have a question, I don’t really know when I have to take grasp and when I have to take conqueror, not only about the match up but vs the ennemy team comp ?
A bit late. (8 months late XD)
Take it for the matchup.
Fiora by nature wants to 1v1 most of the time.
Grasp is better when you have a weaker all-in, so you can play off Grasp+Q poke. (This is the safer option, since its much easier for newer Fiora players to all-in after getting the HP advantage via poke. This also lets you go into Demolish a lot easier.)
Conqueror is better when you have as good as/stronger all-in. (Higher Risk to Reward ratio. Conqueror will basically allow you to rush Defensive items after winning your early fights without losing too much damage, which leads into a bigger snowball. This also means you need to commit harder to all-ins as compared to grasp.)
can you do a video on KAJ fiora?
man is insane!
Voice reveal when?
where can i watch this guy?
China 斗鱼
I was under the impression his name was LangD
i am blind or i see 0 ms 😵
person is not connected to the internet just straight into the servers
Is recorded after the game, thats not the true ms, he's watching a video of the game.
Counters: none.
gang god！！
he did biefeng dirty
This is what happens when the champ has optimal rune just for her kit , a highly mobile champ + high counter potential w + tower destroyer e and a 100% health base true dommage r ultimate , literally no counterplay if played well
Fiora has plenty of counterplay even if she's played perfectly. She has champion pick counters, itemization counters, as well as simple gameplay counters.
@@shinji136 What are these "Fiora counters" you speak of?
@@VladDascaliuc Malphite, Gragas, Gangplank, Akali, Kayle, Quinn, Vladimir, Kennen, Poppy, Bramble Vest, wall-hugging, hard engage and wave-clear. There's plenty of them.
@@shinji136 we just witnessed in the video him shitting on malphite n gragas as fiora xd
@@xTypho A counter is not an auto-win. If a player gaps the other by a significant amount in skill then they will still win. Doesn't erase the majority of times where Gragas and Malphite players shit on him if you actually watch the stream.
But I guess you think if a bronze player has the counterpick then they will win against even a challenger player, LMAO.
Theoretically, nobody beats fiora 1v1. But again it's too mechanically hard to actually perform that good
Can you do a riven player
Oy, I hate a strong fiora player but you can't deny when someone knows their champion well.
they play a different game because of the vitals. (Best pick vs fiora is karma 🤫)
as someone trying to master fiora this was very informative thank you
yes finally a fiora vid
great one honestly !
Finally a jjking video!
bruh that beifeng fight was just sad
Cringe overloaded champ
Overloaded ... xd
Could you crank up music a little for the montage part?
Good idea
Counter: overconfidence from winning 1v1s against your academy sub
刚哥 尿检！
Can you make 1 on riven?
What is a super server?
It is a server where the best people in China are gathered.
Adam Darius stomp him lol.
JJking and 14Fiora are Fiora gods
14操作没有刚哥好，但是更会运营，刚子有时太刚太飘太耍
14 is the best I think
no counter?
Basically this champ almost have no bad matchups. I believe your counter is being a weaksided, whenever your team loses other side of the map. Also, it's not that easy to secure a kill as a fiora, so most fiora players are playing with ignite to get early kills and scale faster. Which is not safe because you can't safe exp in case being ganked and dead.
Poppy, warwick
Some ranged champion are hard for fiora too, like kennen
@@viktorzebra1046 XD you have never played fiora then,. every ranged champ beats fiora if they have 2 hands, sett daruis olaf jax ww teemo jayce kennen, are all awful matchups pre 6 and can all run down you early if you dont respect them
@@tristanoce5233 playable anyway. U outscale most of them, and also most of them have to play aggressive to use their early prio over fiora. Playing agressive means that ur getting a prio top but on the other hand ure in danger if you weakside.
im not sure if this was explained but when does he go conq and when does he go grasp?
Jjking always go grasp i think
While 14fiora always go conq
Actual in Chinese sever he only conquer but ,in Korean he major grasp for stability,he says if u like once fight decide dead is conquer such as Riven,Atrox,if u need reptitious fight to consume rival's blood is grasp.
amaizing, ty!
when does he go grasp and when does he go conq?
i also wanna know this
@@plasmahvh grasp always is ok. mainly go grasp into tanks and conq into bruisers if ur a onetrick
grasp is good for tanker or long distance champ
we need a 14fiora video
What server?
It's either you own at Fiora or you suck at her
Jjking vs 14 who's better?
jjking
@@xiazhuzhu9014 14fiora is known to be better lol
@@xiazhuzhu9014 He's not.
Jjking has better mechanics but 14 is a much better player overall.
Jjking look for more limit testing and outplays, 14 has less aggressive play style but generally higher LP in the previous seasons.
I don't really get the first clip.
He had more HP than Malphite, couldn't prevent him from farming the wave AND fed him 400 gold. The first play wasn't good at all for him, he just reset to base with Malphite and handed him an extra 100g for the troubles. There was no advantage in this play for him at all.
Fiora so broken have the time he doesnt even parry right or q the vital and still wins
Dobby, have you heard of a player called scrubnoob? He is on the korea server at the moment doing quite well. He is a famous rengar main.
20xx fiora
Talents are always found in Asia
You won't ever see skilled players in NA/EU cz their Challenger players are like bronze in KOREA/CHINA
Plenty of EU players have made it to high ranks in Korea challenger. Stop being delusional.
@Shinji sure buddy
Bunch of 1 trick ponies streamers playing 10 hours a day getting hard carried by Korean solo players just like Tyler 1
Skill wise NA/EU are at best bronze in Asian servers