So.... I had left Thor unbooked as in my head I kept reading people say - showcase unbooked as well. I then totally forgot about that and the whole vid is him unbooked! Check Fateless Premier here: th-cam.com/video/eS15arjAiD8/w-d-xo.html
both thor and rathalos need a counter next to their health bar that counts what they are on. having to count rathalos when manualing hydra is fucking ridiculous
In that framing I agree, but also they do look like barbarians and you'd also expect vikings (and their gods) to also be barbs and you'd have people saying that if they made them sylvan 🤷♂️
Thor was unbooked, Ninja brings a drop defense, so not quite the same scenario. He did almost as much damage as Ninja, with no books, and zero drop defense. I'd say he's worth getting for anyone but the super high end accounts, and even then, good as a 3rd team nuker.
Maybe did as much as Ninja or Varl before they could stack their passives. Once they get stacked it'll be no where close. Ninja was free recently and Mikage is fuseable. Those 2 together blow Thor out of the water. Thor will be good a 2nd or 3rd team nuker, but they are not on the same level.
@@Turtleshellon You realize books are multiplicative damage right? A 5 star heavencast, in the best case scenario, adds 11.5% damage (with 10 buffs up the entire time). A 2 star adds 5% damage (with 10 buffs up the entire time). That's only a 6.5% damage difference (considering 2 and 5 star give the same amount of atk). Each book adds 10-15% damage (depending on champ). The idea wasn't, is Ninja better than Thor, it was in a similar scenario what is the outcome to consider if people should go for this Fusion if they already have Ninja. Given that Thor had 6.5% more damage (best possible case scenario) because of Heavencast, but was missing a minimum of 20% damage. We can add 13.5% to Thor's overall damage, and get a good idea of where he stands (not counting Ninja having a single target drop defense).
I agree makes it much easier to keep up with they keep bringing in these champs with mechanics like this that hard to keep up with yr spot on my friend 👍
I have skipped a couple lately - so I was going to get this regardless- besides wanting an attack based Barbarian for faction wars - this will also help my hydra teams
I cleared Barbarian FW with Skarg, Alika, Crohnam, and Scyl who carried me though, then with Raf-Matab or Djamarsa at 50. Thor will 100% decimate Faction Wars.
Multipliers, Plarium! If you ain't displaying the multipliers for champ skills you might as well hide their other stats. Another reason people will leave Raid for Godforge.
Sounds straight forward - but running Thor with a 1 or 2 ally attackers could be fun. The right team and speeds could be a Trunda replacement for those who don't have her as well?
I'll go for him, mainly because I have the energy and gems and food to do so. And now that I got a seer from the 2x void shards, I can clear dungeons much faster than I used to.
One account has Armanz and pretty much nothing else. My main account is great everywhere but arena and has Gnut. Should I go for him on main or my Armanz account? Both accounts have ninja but I haven't built ninja.
HH another commenter mentioned he’s not booked and decrease def from Ninja. You also had weaken from Varl. Further him placing decrease speed means archer doesn’t place it and you don’t get the huge turn metre boost so your team could have been running a lot slower.
I would have loved if Loki did an ally attack with Thor, bringing Thor in on each A1. That would help ramp up Thor's damage faster, without being too broken
How many really good hydra damage dealers does a person need? 6? 9? Judging by Ash and Skratch's recent video I reckon I have around 8, and half of those are also magic affinity.
Dyana she the roman goddess of hunters and the moon in roman mythology. in some of the paintings she looks more like this. I guess she the inspiration for this character.
I want to repeat HH's caveat that he's got Thor in "insane" gear--hence the "insane" damage. I think if you *need* a nuker AND have the resources AND the time to go for him, he's a very good Champion to add to your arsenal. But it should be noted that he's comparable to Ninja--a Champion a lot of people should already have. So if damage is purely your interest in Thor, then to me, there are already a lot of existing options in the game. Just doing what I can to try to cool down people's FOMO a little! 😆
But @@HellHades, isn't wave-killing something that's already in the game? I don't doubt your evaluation, mind you. I'm just saying, there's nothing particularly "gotta have" or "no one else does this" about Thor, am I right? And even if there is, you *can* just be patient and (possibly) pull him later.
Cool potential. But are people going to be able to get him 5* Soul? Is HH and the community at large expecting a Titan event afterwards? For collectors I imagine he's a must have. Considering HH's testing, he's probably a can't go wrong fusion. But maybe not a must-have otherwise. Let's just hope his fusion events aren't priced at a must-have rate.
Hey Simon, great video as always, I have a question. Do you know if Thor’s A2 counts as a multi-hit? Basically I am wondering if Bolint Freewalker’s passive (where every hit from the second to infinity of a multi-hit skill does 15% more damage for each hit) works with Thor. It would be hilarious if you could use it in spider to build into a massive nuke (would be RNG at which point you hit spider) but he would have 100% extra damage from his passive after 5 hits and he would also get 11-12x 15% increases (so another 150+% damage) from Bolint.
My goto vids are always yours. But I wish more would have the average artifacts instead of all killer artifacts that only whales can get. The majority here are not paying near that much on the game. Maybe even videos with stats instead of sets like many of us have to use to get to min requirements. Thanks Ash!! Great vid as always!!
You knew I'd be back. I see that you had a change of heart, and got that good content. Glad we got to see your testing without books. Cause I dont have the gear, and I do have the books.
For those who are confused....the asguardians arent fae...they are gods...they harness the power of the fae....the hammer was forged with fae magic....etc...
I was going to skip him and now i'm 50 - 50 whether to go for the fusion. If they have a guaranteed lego for sacreds soon after i can't get both and i'd prefer a freya etc
I was planning to skip on my F2P. I went all in on ancients for Enda Moonbeam (Last I need for Mikage) and used all my gems. Thankfully I've recovered well and am close to 1000 gems going into the fusion now so I should be fine.
I'm gonna do deck of fate for Freyja, because I need a provoker. I don't need a nuker this badly. hopefully I'll just pull him during a shard opening when I do the deck of fate
he does million + hits, that's all i wanted, like his kit just reads dmg, i had hopes for that A2 and it shows promise. tbh i just wanna do a fusion alread to book Narses and summon Mikage already 🤣 Thor is just going to be the extra reward
I'd love to go for him, but the resource and the time suck will be too brutal for me to bear. I don't want these fusions to be super easy...but I don't want to have to give my first born for a digital character either.
@@ethanleblanc676 far left head that Thor hits, plenty of crit hits hidden under all the phrases so can't really see numbers so well, but red hits on other heads were definitely hex splash damage
Why does Plarium always miss out on doing an event like this and making all the champs have synergy? Like monster hunter, why was no one a burner to enable Rathalos?
Skip. I didn’t need to know his damage to know his kit wasn’t special. As an end gamer I’m only going thru the hassle of out dated dungeons and gear for a Fusion if the kit is unique AND powerful. Last Fusion I did was Armanz and previously Gnut. I haven’t seen anyone since then to make me save shards even one day. However, I do wish I’d had Voids saved for Narses.
Yeah I thought I heard the same but on boozors video he tested it against spider and on first wave there’s 8 spider lings plus spider makes 9 hits and with warmaster proc it makes passive proc as well. It seems to me that this would make him great as damage dealer. Hopefully they don’t nerf him now.
I pulled Odin today. He is good, but not top tier. I faced both Loki and Freja in the live arena. Based on that, and on what I see here, these Asgardians do not amount to much.
HH...you've been playing long enough to say the difference of the fusions...we have the traditional (get rares to fuse to epics to fuse lego), we have fragements (get fragments to apply towards lego), and the hybrid (fragments towards epics, fuse epics to lego)...This is a hybrid fusion...
If he had a passive to survive i would consider him but bow he is meh. And its not smg dealers i am lscking for hydra. Its rather good support for my third team
Dyana might be a replacement for Oboro as best in slot res tank for Hydra. A triple self buff, a veil on EVERYONE and an ally attack that ignores 20% Defense? Oboro has some stiff competition suddenly.
The veil only works if she kills an enemy and decapitating heads does not trigger the "if kills an enemy" type effects unfortunately. So Oboro still has her place.
@KresnikOSRS I missed that. I would still argue that the ally attack is still powerful and would likely end up out damaging Oboro if Lady Mikage isn't involved in the comp.
Considering I just pulled a TARAS today, debating if I skip him. He'd be cool for the F2P account but idk, Fusions have been a little underwhelming since Armanz.
So.... I had left Thor unbooked as in my head I kept reading people say - showcase unbooked as well. I then totally forgot about that and the whole vid is him unbooked!
Check Fateless Premier here: th-cam.com/video/eS15arjAiD8/w-d-xo.html
both thor and rathalos need a counter next to their health bar that counts what they are on. having to count rathalos when manualing hydra is fucking ridiculous
So now we need a new vid with him booked :)
Aka 20% more damage and more cool down
I'm wondering if teammates in relentless, count towards thors counter. Aswell as ally attack. Maybe could do some crazy stuff.
@skulledsquid7797 considering it is his hits then team mates in relentless, means nothing
Dyana is a Fae. Fae are Sylvan Watchers. But for some random reason, Plarium decided to add "Asgardians" who are Fae but in the Barbarian.
It has always been strange to me the cross faction Champs like that. I've never bother to look if any of them have lore now about that.
In that framing I agree, but also they do look like barbarians and you'd also expect vikings (and their gods) to also be barbs and you'd have people saying that if they made them sylvan 🤷♂️
Same shit with other champs, take Mordecai for example.. Dude is in sacred order but could've been a banner lord or even knight rev champ as well..
They are Norse gods. Ever seen Vikings. Odin and Thor are prayed to buy Ragnar Lothbrok and the rest of the children.
To me Vikings are Barbarians.
Diana comes from Diana the Greek godess of the hunt?
I was going to fuse anyway. But im glad he will not be lost on stock.
I've noticed that Plarium is starting to make the fusion fodder Void affinity so that we can't pull them as easily from shards.
100%
Thor was unbooked, Ninja brings a drop defense, so not quite the same scenario. He did almost as much damage as Ninja, with no books, and zero drop defense. I'd say he's worth getting for anyone but the super high end accounts, and even then, good as a 3rd team nuker.
A streamer for young kids vs a nordic god. Ninja wins cuz free
@@MrRat-nm7hq but it's a fusion.you would either way play/grind the game, right?
Maybe did as much as Ninja or Varl before they could stack their passives. Once they get stacked it'll be no where close. Ninja was free recently and Mikage is fuseable. Those 2 together blow Thor out of the water. Thor will be good a 2nd or 3rd team nuker, but they are not on the same level.
Bro ninja was a 2 star.. Thor was a 5 star with Heavencast and all those buffs going on and you are talking about books… Get serious!
@@Turtleshellon You realize books are multiplicative damage right? A 5 star heavencast, in the best case scenario, adds 11.5% damage (with 10 buffs up the entire time). A 2 star adds 5% damage (with 10 buffs up the entire time). That's only a 6.5% damage difference (considering 2 and 5 star give the same amount of atk). Each book adds 10-15% damage (depending on champ). The idea wasn't, is Ninja better than Thor, it was in a similar scenario what is the outcome to consider if people should go for this Fusion if they already have Ninja. Given that Thor had 6.5% more damage (best possible case scenario) because of Heavencast, but was missing a minimum of 20% damage. We can add 13.5% to Thor's overall damage, and get a good idea of where he stands (not counting Ninja having a single target drop defense).
Can someone of influence tell morrons from Plarium to implement passive counter on Rathalos and Thor and similar 😮
That's what i was thinking 😆👍
I agree makes it much easier to keep up with they keep bringing in these champs with mechanics like this that hard to keep up with yr spot on my friend 👍
Thats so true...
and jintoro A3
yeah like rathalos's lantern gets bright and thors hammer gets lightning on.
They missed the ball with the epic for the fusion….great opportunity to bring in a hound.
Plaruim 😂
Cerberus maybe? Poor Hound Master was dead on arrival and isn't coming back imo
@@chrisbrooke5854 fenrir
I will actually be surprised if they ever bring in another hound - Plarium tends to put things in an then just let them sit as is.
@@chrisbrooke5854 Considering the theme might be better to pick Fenris
notice that at 9:01 the increase crit DMG only came in after the skill, not before as stated on the skill
That's dumb
I’m kind of bummed they didn’t have the event dungeon be fighting frost giants, they could’ve had a lot of cool mechanics with that
18:59 Poor Laz says hello :)
Passives that pops champs up without wasting turns is not a reviver for hh :-)
That 5 star soul on him too that helps a lot
I have skipped a couple lately - so I was going to get this regardless- besides wanting an attack based Barbarian for faction wars - this will also help my hydra teams
I cleared Barbarian FW with Skarg, Alika, Crohnam, and Scyl who carried me though, then with Raf-Matab or Djamarsa at 50. Thor will 100% decimate Faction Wars.
Multipliers, Plarium! If you ain't displaying the multipliers for champ skills you might as well hide their other stats. Another reason people will leave Raid for Godforge.
You did have a reviver on that Hydra team, Lazarius
THAT A1 DAMAGE ON 23:15... JESUS...
Dyana looks like Maria Brink
Thanks, Nathorius here. Good video again. This might indeed change my mind in not doing the fusion. But let me doubt for a few days:)
Love the headband! Seems like fun with teox
Should test him with way lower attack and crt dmg. Around 250 crt dmg and 5k atk would be more accurate of how good he is.
Love it when you do field testing instead of just reading the skills. #MAXdamage
Could You test him on a 9 piece slayer? With 2 aoe abilities and his passive should b massive for him...
I think only one is AoE.
@@gkar9757A2, A3 and Passive is Aoe. And his passive activates like every second turn.
Merciless is the best set. The a2 is random scaling hits
Maybe i will get Tor for Sintranos, where his CC and wave clearing capabilities should be useful.
The epic base stats are very similar with Oboro. Also their A3 skill are so identical between both of them.
Sounds straight forward - but running Thor with a 1 or 2 ally attackers could be fun. The right team and speeds could be a Trunda replacement for those who don't have her as well?
I'll go for him, mainly because I have the energy and gems and food to do so. And now that I got a seer from the 2x void shards, I can clear dungeons much faster than I used to.
100% getting him skipped a few of the past fusions. So I'm stocked up and ready to get this one plus the soul
One account has Armanz and pretty much nothing else. My main account is great everywhere but arena and has Gnut. Should I go for him on main or my Armanz account? Both accounts have ninja but I haven't built ninja.
HH another commenter mentioned he’s not booked and decrease def from Ninja. You also had weaken from Varl. Further him placing decrease speed means archer doesn’t place it and you don’t get the huge turn metre boost so your team could have been running a lot slower.
I'm hoping to at least get enough frags to exchange for the 3 frags I need for Mother Maud.
Same here, finally someone sees it
Only get epic frags though so not worth as much and Maud still looks super mid in all the live arena videos ive seen.
@@aelinstue9431 maud is a mid game champion thats it. nothing end game worthy
I would have loved if Loki did an ally attack with Thor, bringing Thor in on each A1. That would help ramp up Thor's damage faster, without being too broken
I literally tried to tell everyone that his damage is equivalent to Trunda’s A3 but nobody wanted to listen smh lol 😆
I was always going to do this fusion. With or without any content creator's review
I bloody knew it!! Bring it on!
How many really good hydra damage dealers does a person need? 6? 9? Judging by Ash and Skratch's recent video I reckon I have around 8, and half of those are also magic affinity.
Dyana she the roman goddess of hunters and the moon in roman mythology. in some of the paintings she looks more like this. I guess she the inspiration for this character.
If I can get that kind of damage out of ninja, who needs thor... Can't wait till I can get some good gear and do some good damage...
I want to repeat HH's caveat that he's got Thor in "insane" gear--hence the "insane" damage.
I think if you *need* a nuker AND have the resources AND the time to go for him, he's a very good Champion to add to your arsenal. But it should be noted that he's comparable to Ninja--a Champion a lot of people should already have. So if damage is purely your interest in Thor, then to me, there are already a lot of existing options in the game.
Just doing what I can to try to cool down people's FOMO a little! 😆
In fairness his wave clear is nuts. But ninja is a general better boss killer
But @@HellHades, isn't wave-killing something that's already in the game? I don't doubt your evaluation, mind you. I'm just saying, there's nothing particularly "gotta have" or "no one else does this" about Thor, am I right? And even if there is, you *can* just be patient and (possibly) pull him later.
Boozer was testing and warmaster and giant slayer counted towards damage stacks
What about him in fire knight? With the multi hit, nuker for waves and stun, plus decrease speed?
Cool potential. But are people going to be able to get him 5* Soul? Is HH and the community at large expecting a Titan event afterwards?
For collectors I imagine he's a must have. Considering HH's testing, he's probably a can't go wrong fusion. But maybe not a must-have otherwise. Let's just hope his fusion events aren't priced at a must-have rate.
I’m having a Mandela effect moment…I totally don’t recall HH having Archer
Lost count of how many i had we re still dreaming,this reality is some kind of illusion 100%😮
It's on test server
So... This will be a "Voltron" Fusion... got it
Hey Simon, great video as always, I have a question. Do you know if Thor’s A2 counts as a multi-hit?
Basically I am wondering if Bolint Freewalker’s passive (where every hit from the second to infinity of a multi-hit skill does 15% more damage for each hit) works with Thor. It would be hilarious if you could use it in spider to build into a massive nuke (would be RNG at which point you hit spider) but he would have 100% extra damage from his passive after 5 hits and he would also get 11-12x 15% increases (so another 150+% damage) from Bolint.
I have Bolint so I'll be trying this when I fuse Thor
Can’t wait for MAXIMUM DAMAGE tests in Godforge using Aphrodite to boost damage 😁
Thor wasn't booked out either.
Came here to say this... How the hell did he not realise he was unbooked?
You can't do a test like this without booking him.
@@levelup6243 the test should have been 2 parts one with no books vs books HH just forgot
Sweet! I need a aoe clearer for Trunda's A2 to dead heads dxD
You could potentially get 2 hits on a decapitated head with his A2 skill if you get redirected to the decapitated head
I was going to skip based on previous thoughts but based on recent review/tests I will try to get him.
My goto vids are always yours. But I wish more would have the average artifacts instead of all killer artifacts that only whales can get. The majority here are not paying near that much on the game. Maybe even videos with stats instead of sets like many of us have to use to get to min requirements.
Thanks Ash!! Great vid as always!!
Ash!! lol!! You two are the absolute best!
If you don't have a high level legendary 5+ soul dps its good to have in your back pocket. Also good for faction wars/cursed city.
Why the hell didn't you book him?
i pulled odin randomly, does his buff spread work with protection? like if he has 8 buffs and spreads them all then does that count for it?
pulled him too from 20 voids. Congrats. Yes it does.
You knew I'd be back. I see that you had a change of heart, and got that good content. Glad we got to see your testing without books. Cause I dont have the gear, and I do have the books.
I already knew thor was better than he seemed so I'm still getting him even if it means missing out on Freya
The champion chase will be this Friday
How many potion are needed for the 4 epics?
Did you book Thor after the showcase before the hydra run? you could probably bump his numbers a few mil if not due to CD and damage bonuses
No I forgot to
For those who are confused....the asguardians arent fae...they are gods...they harness the power of the fae....the hammer was forged with fae magic....etc...
I was planning to get Thor as my damage output sucks. This has only increased my determination to get Thor.
I was going to skip him and now i'm 50 - 50 whether to go for the fusion. If they have a guaranteed lego for sacreds soon after i can't get both and i'd prefer a freya etc
Using your website for dyana gear recommendations and clicked this video to learn about her but its all about thor. Fix your links
Hell Hades, please do a damage showcase with Thor and the skin walker Bolint. The hits could be HUGE cause of the passive of Bolint
I was planning to skip on my F2P. I went all in on ancients for Enda Moonbeam (Last I need for Mikage) and used all my gems. Thankfully I've recovered well and am close to 1000 gems going into the fusion now so I should be fine.
Dyana looks lovely ❤ I d like to have her too. Dont have a dd on faction.
200 voids. Not pulling till a guarantee
if you run him in toxic will he be spamming his aoe stun every 2 seconds?
I'm gonna do deck of fate for Freyja, because I need a provoker. I don't need a nuker this badly. hopefully I'll just pull him during a shard opening when I do the deck of fate
I generally think you should get every fusion once you can do them.
I pulled for Odin and got Ithos.... still going to do Thor though.
People just like to hate, i bet a bunch of the "easy pass" people still do them.
In that gear any dmg dealer will be BOMB.... For comparation: Skorid
he does million + hits, that's all i wanted, like his kit just reads dmg, i had hopes for that A2 and it shows promise. tbh i just wanna do a fusion alread to book Narses and summon Mikage already 🤣 Thor is just going to be the extra reward
Thor hit so hard made the bandana all messed up.
I'd love to go for him, but the resource and the time suck will be too brutal for me to bear. I don't want these fusions to be super easy...but I don't want to have to give my first born for a digital character either.
23:16 Only me saw that much procs ?
I was thinking the same thing, that was crazy
Just the hex spreading I would think lol
@@ethanleblanc676 far left head that Thor hits, plenty of crit hits hidden under all the phrases so can't really see numbers so well, but red hits on other heads were definitely hex splash damage
Why does Plarium always miss out on doing an event like this and making all the champs have synergy? Like monster hunter, why was no one a burner to enable Rathalos?
From his kit alone, he's obviously VERY strong
To be honest they should have named her something with Valkyrie inside so it would connect with the Asgard
Champions chase will be this weekend because you had an event last weekend
i was planning on getting him if freyja deck of fate happens during fusion if i can't do thor and freyja ill have to decide
where is the arena test?
I have good nukers already and really don't feel like finding gear for this guy. But it is Thor...i'm 60/40 on going for this one.
Thor isn’t booked maybe that will account for the difference?
Why tha hell isnt there a number counting the stacks?
now I know why they made people drop voids - just so they don't get epic for fusion from shards
Skip. I didn’t need to know his damage to know his kit wasn’t special. As an end gamer I’m only going thru the hassle of out dated dungeons and gear for a Fusion if the kit is unique AND powerful. Last Fusion I did was Armanz and previously Gnut. I haven’t seen anyone since then to make me save shards even one day.
However, I do wish I’d had Voids saved for Narses.
Can we see a video with the 4 Fae's on arena to see how they work together?
Warmaster procs do count on dmg counter for thunder stack
Thors passive is working with warmaster. Boozor has just confirmed on his channel after testing.
ah they directly said it wasnt doing that :D
@@HellHades Are you new? ;) How should that mean anything :)
Yeah I thought I heard the same but on boozors video he tested it against spider and on first wave there’s 8 spider lings plus spider makes 9 hits and with warmaster proc it makes passive proc as well. It seems to me that this would make him great as damage dealer. Hopefully they don’t nerf him now.
gonna try to fuse, probly gonna fail to, havent had much luck with these, if nothing else i'll get the epic :p
I was going to go for him because its Thor, but I am glad he isn't hot garbage.
I pulled Odin today. He is good, but not top tier. I faced both Loki and Freja in the live arena. Based on that, and on what I see here, these Asgardians do not amount to much.
HH...you've been playing long enough to say the difference of the fusions...we have the traditional (get rares to fuse to epics to fuse lego), we have fragements (get fragments to apply towards lego), and the hybrid (fragments towards epics, fuse epics to lego)...This is a hybrid fusion...
I know thank you 👀
Sadly, looking this video he will be in my vault, good damage but luckly I have better champ. I will go as well for the fusion
Champion chase this weekend most likely, unless they pull shenanigans
His a2. In the Plarium info it says: stacs up to 100%. On your Page: stacks up to 50%
how come?
Typo I guess
I wish they'd do a JJK collab
Gojo would be a mythical lol
im gonna do a challenge im skipping every fusion for the next 3 years unless its on gnut level
If he had a passive to survive i would consider him but bow he is meh. And its not smg dealers i am lscking for hydra. Its rather good support for my third team
Dyana might be a replacement for Oboro as best in slot res tank for Hydra. A triple self buff, a veil on EVERYONE and an ally attack that ignores 20% Defense? Oboro has some stiff competition suddenly.
Won't get the veil ever cause you need to kill someone which instantly makes her less competition for Oboro
nah, oboro is shadowkin, she will never have competition unless they're a shadowkin
The veil only works if she kills an enemy and decapitating heads does not trigger the "if kills an enemy" type effects unfortunately. So Oboro still has her place.
@KresnikOSRS I missed that. I would still argue that the ally attack is still powerful and would likely end up out damaging Oboro if Lady Mikage isn't involved in the comp.
Considering I just pulled a TARAS today, debating if I skip him. He'd be cool for the F2P account but idk, Fusions have been a little underwhelming since Armanz.
Agreed. I’m skipping him
Armanz was a mistake
You want an armanz every month? You must not like arena.
Just pulled Odin today so this gets my hyped to have the pair