The knots people tie themselves into to try to deny racism and bigotry then plead ignorance. As someone who practices law once told me, ignorance is not a defense.
This creator definitely has a desire to learn but also argues because agreeableness and compliance are not the same as learning. Some things actually need to be argued to fully learn.
IN MY OPINION THE USE OF ARGUE WAS NOT IN THE SENES OF DEBATE BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT POVs...BUT ARGUE IN A CONFRONTATIONAL FORM AS NOT TO LISTEN OR LEARN... BUT TO STATE THEIR ONE SIDED VIEW...TO CONVINCE YOU TO AGREE WITH THEM AND ARE OFFENDED AND OR UPSET IF YOU DONT🙄🤐🤨😕😏🦚
@@chaosswa-ee-ty5911 oh no I meant the person commenting. He’s arguing how a racist term isn’t racist even though it was used in context after he learned the origins of it. It’s not that hard to stop using that specific phrase
i really appreciate your content. it makes it hard to ignore the amount of willfully ignorant people without putting it into aggressive argumentative style posts. i strive to be as patient as you in educating everyone, even those who couldnt get over their own thoughts enough to hear you out. i know i have a lot more to think about because of your shorts and i absolutely love the little bits on language. thank you
This why I don't argue with you about language lmao. I agree with you almost all the time so when I heard you talk about the spade thing I just took your expertise on it. What i don't understand is why do they care so much to say things that people don't want to be called, but they're not racist?
As a person not that knowledgeable about struggles of racism or how to even approach the topic most times I'm really appreciative of what you do- for me at least you're putting things into context where I have a gap in understanding and I see that as really respectable
They try to play these antiquated racist games n think people aren't educated enough to articulate the obvious well enough to embarrass the idiots inside of these people. They left for a while to truth social but got there n realized there was no one there for them to hate n came running back to the other social media platforms. I will support Dr. m'Cheaux regardless of what "they say".
I really like the way you explain things & back up. I don’t even know why people go there with you, because you always prove your points & make them look silly.
They will never learn, nor do they want to. Those who do, do the work and move in silence. They let their actions speak for them. No epic novels of an explanation needed.
I never used this term anyway but I also never knew that word was considered a slur. Learn something new everyday especially from you Sunn. I really love you and your content ❤
I didn’t realize spade could be used as a slur (I try my hardest to avoid such language).. Thank you so much for telling me so I can be mindful going forward. I don’t know how I found my way onto your channel, but I’m glad I did.
I really appreciate your channel content. You are opening my eyes as to how I am being racist without even meaning to. Thank you for bringing it to my attention so that I can become a better human.
I think it's less about making Yt people feel like they are constantly being racist, and just trying to educate people on why there is still a disconnect between Yt and a large number of Blk people. Alot of people this racism is just magically gone. Or it left after slavery or jim crow. But for qlot of black people they still have alot of family alive who lived through it or was able to tell the stories despite what we were taught in school. So for some people a lot of this is still fresh and doesn't feel like distant history like everyone wants to make it seem. We are still less than 100 years from that era, And obviously there are people still alive who participated and were on the receiving end of all of that. I say this because I was one of those people who felt like it was in a distant past because of what I was being taught in school. I was born in 1990 My City had become so culturally diverse by the time I became an adult I grew up with people around me not looking like me and I still never had to face some of those crazy stuff other people had to go through in less diverse areas. That made me genuinely feel like racism for the most part was dead and everything I was learning about in school was in the distant past. Now that I am an adult and I can choose to learn what I want to learn and we have access to these pocket libraries of information I now get to hear the stories of those people who lived through it and refuse to let the history get erased conveniently.
Goddamn! this has got to be what it feels like to be a ninja or master martial artist or some shit. Like knowing you have the power to absolutely destroy these people’s sense of self but maintaining restraint and just spankin that ass ever so softly is just……gaahhhhh!!! I luh this man!
Imagine the arrogance when you'll argue a point you can't spell or conceive of without micro explanations of monumental proportions. Probably still doesn't get it.
THIS. I have such an issue with people who claim to not be bigoted, but they "like" racist rants on FB. It's like... you didn't SAY it, but you cosigned that ish and now the bills due and you want to say you're not responsible. That's not how this works. Own your actions. If you're trying to obfuscate, you know you're in the wrong.
Exactly.💯 It's akin to the "I'm not touching you" move that children do when they point their finger close to another's face to "hit" them mentally without technically breaking the no hitting rule. These secondhand bigots know exactly what they're doing and should be held accountable, too.
@@sunnmcheaux I would go so far as to say that they should be held even more accountable for their desception. At least the bold faced racist is honest about who he is. You can see him coming. It's these cosigners, these covert racists who don't have the temerity to represent themselves honestly that fly under the radar and end up doing real damage because they can get closer to you before showing their feelings. And I didn't expect you to actually respond to me and I want to self edit that novel of a sentence given who I'm addressing, but it's honest to my writing voice and so is this nonsense here. And at this point I'm rambling, but for some reason I typed it out anyway, so it's staying... and if you have a problem with the stream of conciousness twattle you just read you can thank Terry Pratchett, he ruined me for linear thought. *edited to add: also staying on topic, I have a distinct problem with that
thank you! genuinely needed to hear that as someone autistic and even i was confused about it, i won't lie. knew there had to be some reason behind it, though, so i didn't say anything, knowing you'd follow up on it soon enough ♡ but yikes! that last bit...
What ceases to amaze me is all the people trying to explain to a Black linguist, who is a Harvard professor, the way racist terminology works and what racist words/phrases “actually” mean. Like they really think “I’ll get him on this!” Uh no lmao
Pumping out content like Ford's manufacturing line on adderall, just saw the video he referenced in this same pack (batch?) of shorts. Loving the content!
@Nerobyrne I actually follow that guy. Because I'm Choctaw myself and he provides a lot of content that I appreciate. But after this, I'm reconsidering whether I should continue to follow him.
@@JS-fd8ey you can continue following him and also call out when he is lying or being disrespectful. He should learn eventually that his followers want to see native positivity not downing other struggling people. Cancel culture is a poison to all. Black people know racist ideas are quite strong in many other minority communities. But that's not really what's killing us, opinions aren't killing us, it's institutional, and other minorities aren't contributing much to that real measurable harm. Although we could all easily contribute to real meaningful positive change.
God I want to take your class. Linguistics are? Is? Friggin fascinating. This should be taught nationwide, so the kids coming up today would have the Ohhh! Moments I get from these videos all the time.
@@jturtle5318 I know he teaches Gullah-Geechee. I'm fascinated with languages and dialects in general, and it would benefit society if more white people learned how to remove these racist terms from our vocabulary as well as understanding the history of the amazing dialects that sprang up in this country. We need to fully be taught what strength and beauty was created even though our ancestors and contemporaries commit unspeakable atrocities. We need to learn how amazing and beautiful these cultures are. I'm sorry if I went on too long, it's just I'm really passionate about this. If I've inadvertently hurt you I'm so sorry.
This is disappointing on so many levels. Whenever stuff like this happens it sickens me because even if Natives want to be seen as separate from Blacks, there's no reason to endorse racists. The Cherokee Freedmen are still dealing with racism within their tribes and for some reason some Natives seem to feel like they are "wyte"... this stuff is so weird.
Two big things stand out to me, and I confess I have been guilty of them both. First, poor situational awareness...let us give the gentleman the benefit of the doubt that it didn't occur to him that using the phrase "call a spade a spade" could reasonably be seen as racist...he says, "I didn't mean that"...this is poor situational awareness, and it requires each of us, the very moment we do become aware of how something is being heard (a la dog whistle) to stop arguing that we didn't know/ didn't mean it, and to apologize. We need to accept that our position in life, whether under our control or not, has sheltered us from having to deal with this type of racism or other abuse. We should accept what the other person says when they point it out, and graciously accept the correction. It costs nothing to treat someone else with compassion and respect. I accept someone claiming ignorance if they immediately stop, apologize, and actually try not to do it again. Second, is the lack of understanding about how built in and built on our society is regarding keeping certain groups in a defacto subservient state. This is harder to deal with...we have inherited a country built on redlining, covenants, burning thriving black communities down, robbing native communities of resources, denying asian communities access to banking, barring entry based on race and religion, dividing families, etc. I didn't do any of that as an individual, and I can remain ignorant of it if I choose, and still vest myself of all the benefits that institutions got out of those behaviors. That's the missing part. And, I don't know how to fix it. I wish I did. Race really is just a social construct, but that's not the same thing as it not existing. Social construct doesn't mean not real. It means a tool made up by a society to organize itself. So, racism is very real and very horrible. Whether institutional or baked into language or blatantly intended, it really messes all of us up. For my part, I am sorry for my use of the phrase in the past, and thank you for helping me see how it could cause hurt. It was a good if uncomfortable thing to be told. Please keep having these discussions. We all have a lot of growing to do if we want things to change.💕
i really appreciate you putting this out there, you have some very genuine and developed thoughts. ill be honest, i dont agree with everything you said but i respect your opinions and ideas. i have a question about this particular topic if you are willing to enlighten me. i dont see how this phrase hurts anyone without it being used as a way to put them down. if i said and meant the original meaning of the phrase, why is it not ok to say it? it doesnt make sense to me to restrict what you say if it doesnt hurt people. an example that might make sense is with the use of the word cracker. it doesnt make me feel good when someone calls me a cracker, but im still going to go to the store and buy them/ask for them. i wouldnt call anyone else a cracker but it also has other meanings that make sense to use.
@@michaelfry4852 That's a really good question to ask because it gets exactly at the heart of the matter. In a way, you're right, and let me be clear, I am not advocating punishing or cancelling people who don't get the impact of the words they are using. That doesn't solve anything. Rather, I have come to realize that everybody brings their life experience with them, and it affects how they are impacted by my words and actions. This isn't about them being good or bad. It's about what life has taught them to presuppose in a given situation. I will paraphrase an old saying: true communication isn't achieved just by people being able to understand you, but when no one can misunderstand you. Now, let's assume that everyone in the comments section is being 100% honest, and the people who say they don't intend it to be a racial slur really and truly do not mean anything but the original meaning...no nuance or dog whistle or malicious intent. That's good. Then, we consider who is the audience that they are laying this in front of? I would guess watchers and readers who are mostly minorities that face daily racism. Let's pretend I use a saying that they take as racist. When I speak, I have a right to share ideas, but I'm not speaking into a void. I need to ask how could the message be taken? How can it be heard? Furthermore, when I am then told by the community, "hey, that sounds really bad to me because you sound like you are using a racial slur," then I have to really stop and think...can I see their point of view? If so, what kind of person am I? We aren't talking about me limiting myself from speaking a great truth. It isn't really going to hurt me to stop, and it may help someone else feel safe and welcome. So, I choose to be responsible for how I speak and at least make an effort. Please don't take that to mean that I believe in micromanaging YOUR speech. Everyone has their lines, and some people really can't get this kind of conversation. It's so far away from what they've been taught their whole lives, they really, really don't grasp it. And, that's on both sides. You can be taught to disregard your impact, and you can be taught to assume that people are intentionally hurting you with words. Both of those are pity-filled states to be in. When I was young, a lot of people around me thought that way. You don't have to agree with me. I just am happy to have the conversation. Thanks for your time.
Even as a hardcore gardener, I use the term "spade fork" to refer to the flat-tined digging tool my father simply called a "spade". I'll try to take a look at the signage at the garden supply to notice what they're calling them, most retailers try to stay away from sensitive language.
Ive always believed the expression “calling a spade a spade “ referred to shovels ie the pointed kind vs the square one. Ive not used the phrase outside of gardening tools…I think i missed something? 🤷♀️
Oh, wow... That's pretty blatant. I do generally try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but even if I had been inclined to in this case (I was not) I wouldn't be after seeing that post history...
my maternal idiom is not english, and I like the fact that you tell what could some word could possibly mean. Without those types of explanation I will mostly have another understading or just I would not understand the sentence x) Thank you, to make me learn things ^^
Damn. I am not a native English speaker, although I do have C2 qualification in (British) English. I HAD NO IDEA spade was a slur. Thanks so much for your content!
@@jturtle5318 I have no idea; both Macmillan and Oxford dictionaries (British English dictionaries) list it as pejorative, however no further context is given. Merriam-Webster (American English) does NOT list it at all. Strange. Edit: Black folks I know predominantly speak French or German, so... *multilingual confusion ensued*
It's crazy how people pretend to not understand how English works when it's the only language they speak. Maybe I should say it's crazy how they try to change how English works when they know good and well what they're saying.
I swear, people complain that immigrants don't know how to speak/write English when they barely know their own language. Thank you for taking your time and teaching us
I’m Kalispell, and I still can’t wrap my mind around how he can say facts are anti-Indigenous racism. Black people acknowledge that, in both Africa and in the US, UK, Caribbean, etc., other black and multi-race individuals owned slaves. It is still tied to colonialism and has much to do with the whole “re-education, assimilation” stuff which has always gone on - but that’s not anti-Black racism. It’s just a fact. If we are going to be supportive of one another and recognize the complexities of race and intersectionalism, we have to be honest with ourselves and with our allies. Being Indigenous doesn’t mean being perfect. We have a shared history on both sides of the fence - we’ve been oppressed, and we have oppressed.
I'd never heard that word used as a slur before, but I'll keep a very forefront mental note on not using it, even though I can't remember the last time I said it in any context. Not much of an outdoor person 😅 But thank you for making these videos. Very insightful and educational. Much love from Australia
I had heard the expression before but was not aware it was a slur or that it referred to a black person. So I googled it and found out the original use of "call a spade a spade" by Erasmus in 1542 referred to a small gardening shovel and wasn't used as a slur. However. by the 1920s it evolved into code for a black person referencing the spade in a deck of cards ♠️ which is a black card, hence the slur.
Some people never learn, no matter how clear you make it. Context is key, and if you try and take it out of context, you’re merely trying to help the racist. A racist is a racist, no matter how they try to hide. Be it behind semantics of a word, or taking things out of context.
The knots people tie themselves into to try to deny racism and bigotry then plead ignorance. As someone who practices law once told me, ignorance is not a defense.
Yet people will use it even when literally the entire room knows they're full of it.
@@giacoyt4147 confirmation bias
A desire to learn, does not argue, it listens and adjusts
well said!!
Sounds like a slave to me.
This creator definitely has a desire to learn but also argues because agreeableness and compliance are not the same as learning. Some things actually need to be argued to fully learn.
I'd disagree, I believe that a desire to learn would seek out debate and argument, testing their own views against others, which creates an open mind.
IN MY OPINION THE USE OF ARGUE WAS NOT IN THE SENES OF DEBATE BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT POVs...BUT ARGUE IN A CONFRONTATIONAL FORM AS NOT TO LISTEN OR LEARN... BUT TO STATE THEIR ONE SIDED VIEW...TO CONVINCE YOU TO AGREE WITH THEM AND ARE OFFENDED AND OR UPSET IF YOU DONT🙄🤐🤨😕😏🦚
Why do they even start with you lol?! I'm here for all the educational chin checks though 😂
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THE BEST KIND...KING OF A TEACHABLE MOMENTS👑🔥🙏🖤🙌💣⚘️✌️🦚
I'm so here for it!!
When you try to argue semantics about racist terms you’re revealing yourself even more.
I think a lot of creators do that over time on TH-cam, Reveal theirselves. It's just up to the user to decide if they still want to consume.
@@chaosswa-ee-ty5911 oh no I meant the person commenting. He’s arguing how a racist term isn’t racist even though it was used in context after he learned the origins of it. It’s not that hard to stop using that specific phrase
i really appreciate your content. it makes it hard to ignore the amount of willfully ignorant people without putting it into aggressive argumentative style posts. i strive to be as patient as you in educating everyone, even those who couldnt get over their own thoughts enough to hear you out. i know i have a lot more to think about because of your shorts and i absolutely love the little bits on language. thank you
Your linguistics are so delightful, like a ballet. I can listen to you break down for hours ☺️
Tell em boo!
They are so provocative while they are in their safe space.
Whhhhhyyyy do they keep coming for you?! 🤦🏾♀️🙄 They get embarrassed every time!
He's educated. They want to believe we all stupid and brutish animals. The last comment Sunn put up shows that.
every 👏🏾 single 👏🏾 time 👏🏾 🤣🤣✌🏽✌🏽
I think it’s some kind of kink for them. If that’s the case, they need to pay up!
Every time!!!
It's sad that someone would purposefully misunderstand what you meant just to try and discredit a valid point you made.
I am here for your teachable moments... very satisfying
You have a way of saying a lot without using many words.
This why I don't argue with you about language lmao. I agree with you almost all the time so when I heard you talk about the spade thing I just took your expertise on it.
What i don't understand is why do they care so much to say things that people don't want to be called, but they're not racist?
Yes, why do people want to continue to offend people?
As a person not that knowledgeable about struggles of racism or how to even approach the topic most times I'm really appreciative of what you do- for me at least you're putting things into context where I have a gap in understanding and I see that as really respectable
They try to play these antiquated racist games n think people aren't educated enough to articulate the obvious well enough to embarrass the idiots inside of these people. They left for a while to truth social but got there n realized there was no one there for them to hate n came running back to the other social media platforms. I will support Dr. m'Cheaux regardless of what "they say".
I really like the way you explain things & back up. I don’t even know why people go there with you, because you always prove your points & make them look silly.
They will never learn, nor do they want to. Those who do, do the work and move in silence. They let their actions speak for them. No epic novels of an explanation needed.
I'll never understand how people can try to school a linguist about language. No, wait, I can.
I never used this term anyway but I also never knew that word was considered a slur. Learn something new everyday especially from you Sunn. I really love you and your content ❤
and this is why i appreciate you in this space. you use your words and their published words to elevate your point. keep rising.
Ah just watching Sunn shine. Well said sir.
I didn’t realize spade could be used as a slur (I try my hardest to avoid such language).. Thank you so much for telling me so I can be mindful going forward. I don’t know how I found my way onto your channel, but I’m glad I did.
I really appreciate your channel content. You are opening my eyes as to how I am being racist without even meaning to. Thank you for bringing it to my attention so that I can become a better human.
I think it's less about making Yt people feel like they are constantly being racist, and just trying to educate people on why there is still a disconnect between Yt and a large number of Blk people. Alot of people this racism is just magically gone. Or it left after slavery or jim crow. But for qlot of black people they still have alot of family alive who lived through it or was able to tell the stories despite what we were taught in school. So for some people a lot of this is still fresh and doesn't feel like distant history like everyone wants to make it seem. We are still less than 100 years from that era, And obviously there are people still alive who participated and were on the receiving end of all of that.
I say this because I was one of those people who felt like it was in a distant past because of what I was being taught in school. I was born in 1990 My City had become so culturally diverse by the time I became an adult I grew up with people around me not looking like me and I still never had to face some of those crazy stuff other people had to go through in less diverse areas. That made me genuinely feel like racism for the most part was dead and everything I was learning about in school was in the distant past. Now that I am an adult and I can choose to learn what I want to learn and we have access to these pocket libraries of information I now get to hear the stories of those people who lived through it and refuse to let the history get erased conveniently.
Goddamn! this has got to be what it feels like to be a ninja or master martial artist or some shit. Like knowing you have the power to absolutely destroy these people’s sense of self but maintaining restraint and just spankin that ass ever so softly is just……gaahhhhh!!! I luh this man!
Imagine the arrogance when you'll argue a point you can't spell or conceive of without micro explanations of monumental proportions.
Probably still doesn't get it.
@@JD-il6kw 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Our sufferings are nearly over, and their sufferings are nearly beginning.
Our people rule next ❤
I learn so much from your videos. Thank you.
U ARE SO KIND so those needed Many tutorials of speech, CONTEXT,Slurs, definitions ETC.....BLESS U R a shinning 🌞 SUN
I hate that we have to live amongst these demons.😡
The devil is in the details is some amazing wordplay. 10/10 you sassy genius.
Excellent. This is an important point that needs to be said more often.
It’s almost the equivalent of forwarding emails back in the day. You may not have written it but “forwarded” it into the world.
They REALLY need to prepare if they have any chance of catching you slipping, don't they? Keep going, bro!
Yes!!! CALL HIM TO THE CARPET!! I'm loving every bit of this!
THIS. I have such an issue with people who claim to not be bigoted, but they "like" racist rants on FB. It's like... you didn't SAY it, but you cosigned that ish and now the bills due and you want to say you're not responsible. That's not how this works. Own your actions. If you're trying to obfuscate, you know you're in the wrong.
Exactly.💯 It's akin to the "I'm not touching you" move that children do when they point their finger close to another's face to "hit" them mentally without technically breaking the no hitting rule. These secondhand bigots know exactly what they're doing and should be held accountable, too.
@@sunnmcheaux I would go so far as to say that they should be held even more accountable for their desception. At least the bold faced racist is honest about who he is. You can see him coming. It's these cosigners, these covert racists who don't have the temerity to represent themselves honestly that fly under the radar and end up doing real damage because they can get closer to you before showing their feelings. And I didn't expect you to actually respond to me and I want to self edit that novel of a sentence given who I'm addressing, but it's honest to my writing voice and so is this nonsense here. And at this point I'm rambling, but for some reason I typed it out anyway, so it's staying... and if you have a problem with the stream of conciousness twattle you just read you can thank Terry Pratchett, he ruined me for linear thought.
*edited to add: also staying on topic, I have a distinct problem with that
thank you! genuinely needed to hear that as someone autistic and even i was confused about it, i won't lie. knew there had to be some reason behind it, though, so i didn't say anything, knowing you'd follow up on it soon enough ♡ but yikes! that last bit...
So true
.you are known by the company you keep.
I got so confused until the end. And I was like, oh you're talking about that kind of person. Good gourd. The audacity some people have.
Oh damn...fhat last example sealed the deal....
They gone learn to stop coming for this man!
If history teaches us anything, it would be that they will, in fact, not learn to stop. But we can always remain hopeful! 🥰
SMH people are trying to argue semantics just to deny racism exists is wild to me.
Beautifully said! 💖
What ceases to amaze me is all the people trying to explain to a Black linguist, who is a Harvard professor, the way racist terminology works and what racist words/phrases “actually” mean. Like they really think “I’ll get him on this!” Uh no lmao
A boom .... can't wiggle out of that!💯
Word choices matter.
So many are messin' round and finding!
Pumping out content like Ford's manufacturing line on adderall, just saw the video he referenced in this same pack (batch?) of shorts. Loving the content!
YOU ARE APPRECIATED, SUNN!!💖💖💖💖 #weoutchea
Exactly, preach brother. Keep making this content. Call these people out for being ignorant
Arguing about a single word... With a linguist. Some people really have no clue what to do with their time, huh?
Peace and love god. Keep it rollin
They knew exactly what they was doing
Knowledge is king!But articulation is priceless🥶🫡🪞
People arguing about words with a linguistics professor. 😅
Learning never stops.
The devil is in the details carries a lot of weight here.
Your content is always so useful.
Language is important. This fact eludes those who are looking for something that isn’t there.
Sometimes the Devil's in the details, the trim, the walls, the foundation, & playing in the backyard.
Sunny always has receipts
Had no idea spade was used as a slur. Thank you for educating us on this.
I was on the fence on if the person meant it like that, but if they kept saying it....
Yeah they totally knew.
@Nerobyrne I actually follow that guy. Because I'm Choctaw myself and he provides a lot of content that I appreciate. But after this, I'm reconsidering whether I should continue to follow him.
@@JS-fd8ey you can continue following him and also call out when he is lying or being disrespectful. He should learn eventually that his followers want to see native positivity not downing other struggling people. Cancel culture is a poison to all. Black people know racist ideas are quite strong in many other minority communities. But that's not really what's killing us, opinions aren't killing us, it's institutional, and other minorities aren't contributing much to that real measurable harm. Although we could all easily contribute to real meaningful positive change.
How old are you and did NOT know that😒
God I want to take your class. Linguistics are? Is? Friggin fascinating. This should be taught nationwide, so the kids coming up today would have the Ohhh! Moments I get from these videos all the time.
Linguistics programs are available in colleges nationwide. The difference is that he's an expert on Gullah-Geechee, on racist language.
@@jturtle5318 I know he teaches Gullah-Geechee. I'm fascinated with languages and dialects in general, and it would benefit society if more white people learned how to remove these racist terms from our vocabulary as well as understanding the history of the amazing dialects that sprang up in this country. We need to fully be taught what strength and beauty was created even though our ancestors and contemporaries commit unspeakable atrocities. We need to learn how amazing and beautiful these cultures are. I'm sorry if I went on too long, it's just I'm really passionate about this. If I've inadvertently hurt you I'm so sorry.
This is disappointing on so many levels. Whenever stuff like this happens it sickens me because even if Natives want to be seen as separate from Blacks, there's no reason to endorse racists. The Cherokee Freedmen are still dealing with racism within their tribes and for some reason some Natives seem to feel like they are "wyte"... this stuff is so weird.
Two big things stand out to me, and I confess I have been guilty of them both. First, poor situational awareness...let us give the gentleman the benefit of the doubt that it didn't occur to him that using the phrase "call a spade a spade" could reasonably be seen as racist...he says, "I didn't mean that"...this is poor situational awareness, and it requires each of us, the very moment we do become aware of how something is being heard (a la dog whistle) to stop arguing that we didn't know/ didn't mean it, and to apologize. We need to accept that our position in life, whether under our control or not, has sheltered us from having to deal with this type of racism or other abuse. We should accept what the other person says when they point it out, and graciously accept the correction. It costs nothing to treat someone else with compassion and respect. I accept someone claiming ignorance if they immediately stop, apologize, and actually try not to do it again.
Second, is the lack of understanding about how built in and built on our society is regarding keeping certain groups in a defacto subservient state. This is harder to deal with...we have inherited a country built on redlining, covenants, burning thriving black communities down, robbing native communities of resources, denying asian communities access to banking, barring entry based on race and religion, dividing families, etc. I didn't do any of that as an individual, and I can remain ignorant of it if I choose, and still vest myself of all the benefits that institutions got out of those behaviors. That's the missing part. And, I don't know how to fix it. I wish I did.
Race really is just a social construct, but that's not the same thing as it not existing. Social construct doesn't mean not real. It means a tool made up by a society to organize itself. So, racism is very real and very horrible. Whether institutional or baked into language or blatantly intended, it really messes all of us up.
For my part, I am sorry for my use of the phrase in the past, and thank you for helping me see how it could cause hurt. It was a good if uncomfortable thing to be told.
Please keep having these discussions. We all have a lot of growing to do if we want things to change.💕
i really appreciate you putting this out there, you have some very genuine and developed thoughts. ill be honest, i dont agree with everything you said but i respect your opinions and ideas. i have a question about this particular topic if you are willing to enlighten me. i dont see how this phrase hurts anyone without it being used as a way to put them down. if i said and meant the original meaning of the phrase, why is it not ok to say it? it doesnt make sense to me to restrict what you say if it doesnt hurt people. an example that might make sense is with the use of the word cracker. it doesnt make me feel good when someone calls me a cracker, but im still going to go to the store and buy them/ask for them. i wouldnt call anyone else a cracker but it also has other meanings that make sense to use.
@@michaelfry4852 That's a really good question to ask because it gets exactly at the heart of the matter. In a way, you're right, and let me be clear, I am not advocating punishing or cancelling people who don't get the impact of the words they are using. That doesn't solve anything. Rather, I have come to realize that everybody brings their life experience with them, and it affects how they are impacted by my words and actions. This isn't about them being good or bad. It's about what life has taught them to presuppose in a given situation. I will paraphrase an old saying: true communication isn't achieved just by people being able to understand you, but when no one can misunderstand you.
Now, let's assume that everyone in the comments section is being 100% honest, and the people who say they don't intend it to be a racial slur really and truly do not mean anything but the original meaning...no nuance or dog whistle or malicious intent. That's good. Then, we consider who is the audience that they are laying this in front of? I would guess watchers and readers who are mostly minorities that face daily racism. Let's pretend I use a saying that they take as racist. When I speak, I have a right to share ideas, but I'm not speaking into a void. I need to ask how could the message be taken? How can it be heard? Furthermore, when I am then told by the community, "hey, that sounds really bad to me because you sound like you are using a racial slur," then I have to really stop and think...can I see their point of view? If so, what kind of person am I? We aren't talking about me limiting myself from speaking a great truth. It isn't really going to hurt me to stop, and it may help someone else feel safe and welcome. So, I choose to be responsible for how I speak and at least make an effort.
Please don't take that to mean that I believe in micromanaging YOUR speech. Everyone has their lines, and some people really can't get this kind of conversation. It's so far away from what they've been taught their whole lives, they really, really don't grasp it. And, that's on both sides. You can be taught to disregard your impact, and you can be taught to assume that people are intentionally hurting you with words. Both of those are pity-filled states to be in. When I was young, a lot of people around me thought that way.
You don't have to agree with me. I just am happy to have the conversation. Thanks for your time.
Even as a hardcore gardener, I use the term "spade fork" to refer to the flat-tined digging tool my father simply called a "spade".
I'll try to take a look at the signage at the garden supply to notice what they're calling them, most retailers try to stay away from sensitive language.
Ive always believed the expression “calling a spade a spade “ referred to shovels ie the pointed kind vs the square one. Ive not used the phrase outside of gardening tools…I think i missed something? 🤷♀️
Oh, wow... That's pretty blatant. I do generally try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but even if I had been inclined to in this case (I was not) I wouldn't be after seeing that post history...
CASE CLOSED‼️ Thank you for all you do. 🙏
Thank you for all your content.
my maternal idiom is not english, and I like the fact that you tell what could some word could possibly mean. Without those types of explanation I will mostly have another understading or just I would not understand the sentence x)
Thank you, to make me learn things ^^
#weoutchea love the content, keep it coming brotha. If we know better, we can do better as a community.
powerful. I can hear.
Tell it!!! Enuf said.
Did they really think trying to tell you how words work would end well?
This dude is elevated
You make me a more attentive reader/listener.
Damn. I am not a native English speaker, although I do have C2 qualification in (British) English. I HAD NO IDEA spade was a slur. Thanks so much for your content!
It may be more of an American slur. Maybe ask around where you are?
@@jturtle5318 I have no idea; both Macmillan and Oxford dictionaries (British English dictionaries) list it as pejorative, however no further context is given. Merriam-Webster (American English) does NOT list it at all. Strange. Edit: Black folks I know predominantly speak French or German, so... *multilingual confusion ensued*
@@quintrat if you look up "is it racist to say to call a spade a spade" NPR seems to have an article explaining the history of it.
@@andremartinez418 way to eff up an idiom that's been around for a few millenia. Thanks America.
Spade is also a tool so it’s contextual
It's crazy how people pretend to not understand how English works when it's the only language they speak. Maybe I should say it's crazy how they try to change how English works when they know good and well what they're saying.
Verbal Judo Sensei 👊🏽🥃🥋
I swear, people complain that immigrants don't know how to speak/write English when they barely know their own language. Thank you for taking your time and teaching us
People just aren’t very smart these days
TRUTH!!!
At what point can we go from defense against racism to offense?
He tried it... They always try it.
I had no idea about the spade reference. It sounds so benign until you learn it's origin.
You mean that it was originally (probably) a mistranslation of a euphemism for a woman's vulva?
Why do they bother!!!🤣🤣❤
Racism by proxy. I learn something new from you all the time.
What the hello is going on out in this interweb anyway? DANG 😳😲
I’m Kalispell, and I still can’t wrap my mind around how he can say facts are anti-Indigenous racism. Black people acknowledge that, in both Africa and in the US, UK, Caribbean, etc., other black and multi-race individuals owned slaves. It is still tied to colonialism and has much to do with the whole “re-education, assimilation” stuff which has always gone on - but that’s not anti-Black racism. It’s just a fact.
If we are going to be supportive of one another and recognize the complexities of race and intersectionalism, we have to be honest with ourselves and with our allies. Being Indigenous doesn’t mean being perfect. We have a shared history on both sides of the fence - we’ve been oppressed, and we have oppressed.
They really can't help themselves using slurs can they 🙄
So let's change that saying to "let's call a cracker a cracker"
Yes! Call a cracker a cracker..."How many crackers in a box?"
Oooh you Use his own shyt by proxy to Molly wap his head. 😂
I'd never heard that word used as a slur before, but I'll keep a very forefront mental note on not using it, even though I can't remember the last time I said it in any context. Not much of an outdoor person 😅
But thank you for making these videos. Very insightful and educational. Much love from Australia
I had heard the expression before but was not aware it was a slur or that it referred to a black person. So I googled it and found out the original use of "call a spade a spade" by Erasmus in 1542 referred to a small gardening shovel and wasn't used as a slur. However. by the 1920s it evolved into code for a black person referencing the spade in a deck of cards ♠️ which is a black card, hence the slur.
Some people claim intelligence but fall short. And how does no body use Google.
They only brave when covered in sheets 🤔
& he still used it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Some people never learn, no matter how clear you make it. Context is key, and if you try and take it out of context, you’re merely trying to help the racist. A racist is a racist, no matter how they try to hide. Be it behind semantics of a word, or taking things out of context.
I ❤ the music!
Case closed
Racism by proxy 😮 I’m learning
That's half the deck covered.
You remind me so much of Daryl Davis...
Not law and order clink clink.😂😂😂
Ok now this is just English. They’re is no way someone was confused