Special Operations Vets React SCP:OVERLORD
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ค. 2021
- Patrick and Jason are Special Operations veterans who share their thoughts on games, movies and more. Join us, share a beer and a laugh. Don't take us or the world too seriously.
In this episode Special Operations vets React to SCP:Overlord
A secret NGO investigates the home of an esoteric cult on suspicion that they are more than meets the eye.
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Its secure contain protect
Don't be mean bro and there gun are Hk416S
this is late. But, the SCP foundation has teams, built similar to SEAL teams in that they can all really do the same thing but each of them has a specialty.
the forces used here are taken from all over the world and retrained in how the Foundation wants them to operate. These are not combat forces, these are initial assessment forces. thats why they have a QRF and all these assets at their disposal.
The Foundation's goal is to find, secure, contain, and protect anomalies. They try their BEST not to kill or destroy anything. they can get quiet, get what they need, and leave without being found out about, then its their go to.
With anomalies, if they are considered a threat and not logically able to be secured, then they must be neutralized. They will not go out of their way to neutralize an anomaly unless it is ordered by command, that has a direct line to Area Command, that then leads to one of the O-5 (the top of the top of the foundation) if orders are too grey zoned for anyone under that.
given that the Teams are supposed to be taking in spec ops guys and shit as their pref. They arnt spec ops that we see them. their goals, targets, and way of doing things is much different. unnecessarities can cause unexpected consequences. They ARE super natural and anomaly hunters. We cant say that for what theyre looking for is or acts human. Its because of this that I feel that talking and figuring shit out, or even to help the mentality, is earned for this line of work.
The reason they’re wearing gas masks is because they are unsure if this anomaly is hazardous and if it is hazardous, they’re not sure how it could be all they know they could be walking into a field and then drop dead if they didn’t have those
If you look closely after the one guy’s throat gets cut and they’re leaving the room, Drewski falls in brings down like two people with
"He's gonna be the only one to live"
Guy: Immediately shoots himself
8:00 that tall dude is indeed Operator Drewski. He did a video talking about his experiences with the project and it’s entertaining.
This house was also an AirBNB, that’s why there was plastic everywhere. They had to re-run a clearing scene a dozen times or more because the military advisor was not happy with how they were clearing and moving.
Their advisor did an awful job.
One of the adviser was from desert shield /desert storm if I remember right
@@Naruto_uzumaki120 I remember the guy being overweight, and looking as if he was just happy to boss people around. Had a terrible attitude, and did an awful job.
@@ripley4601 yea
@@Naruto_uzumaki120 Nah, he was one of the actors if I remember correctly, the advisor was another guy.
I like you guys’ military views about this, but an SCP Agent saying “I would quit after seeing floating humans” is the same as a soldier or a doctor saying “I would quit after seeing a dead body.”
Remember, these SCP dudes see these anomalies almost ALL the time. So it’s nothing new to them.
I think they don’t really know what Scp really is
29:05 "what just happend " they just explained what they were doing
Gas masks required due to the unknown atmospheric conditions that might be encountered.
You think thats air you are breathing?
And the chemical attacks mentioned in the beginning
or they could have gas masks because of hay fever lmao
(!Joke!) Masks requires due to cvid
Thing is though they can test the air quality. It's still unrealistic since they could do that and then take their masks off instead of this in my opinion. Plus the actors wouldn't have had to wear them for 14 hours and sweat through them so bad they still had to be placed on a fan the next day to dry. lmfao
@@tech_of_steel20official (!Joke!) Triggered. Could you imagine though if everyone had to walk around in gas masks instead just face masks?
this was a crowd funded films and most of the actors were volunteers/youtubers/whatever so that's why they looked about 15 and had never seen a razor. they had a single "military" guy who was responsible for all the clearing and weapons handling direction and stuff so that's on him. Evan the guy responsible for getting these films done is super passionate about this stuff and wants them to be as realistic as possible so hell maybe you guys could be the consultants on the next film and make it look hardcore as fuck. i know i'd wanna see another one of these with proper tactics and shit that you guys approve of
I'm sure they can find us.
@@SAVAGEActual You can actually contact Evan himself, he'd actually need people like you, other vets who reacted to him actually reached out to the film, so you guys could do it to.
@@josemargaritotapia2084 Evan better be getting his wallet out first
@@SAVAGEActual they had one military consultant and one of the actors was national guard or some shit, you guys would make the film 10x better, they made this with like a 2 week window though
i was wondering why they all seemed super young
SCP means secure, contain, protect. Especially for the abnormal.
Roger. Now we are only going to get that a bazillion more times.
@@SAVAGEActual lol yup
@@SAVAGEActual *The MTF included in the short i believe has been "Village Idiots", they wear easy cloth so they can switch things when they need to cover themselfs in.. ya know "village" like places, they are basically living normie lifes until they find something weird and start to do things which is why they dont need to wear juggernaut like armours or have railguns or something*
🤔
Nah, Single. Crying. Parent. Foundation.
for me since I am A B N O R M A L
The masks were specifically so that they could do the voiceovers after the fact. They also wanted it to be easier to identify each MTF guy easier than just seeing everybody's face, hence why they have flags on their helmets and spray painted masks.
His reaction, "Wait, is that Sara floating there?" "Yeah." "Huh..." - this would be the most realistic reaction to that picture for sure.
I mean, SCP operators are no stranger to anomalies. That was probably just a monday for them, considering all the weird shit they have to deal with daily.
"Do you just want to hear us talk shit about it the whole time?" Yes, it's funny as fuck. You get great lines like "Did he just get smoked?" "I'm glad he did. Fuck em."
And the shit talking 18 year old operators 😂
What he gets for not lifting a weight a day in his life.
@@baffledking9902 Larry Vickers was eighteen when he was a Green Beret, but that was a different time
@@DragoonBB wow much funni
best part by far.
“Did that guy just get smoked?!?”
“I’m glad he did”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHaHAAA
When 1-1's throat got cut, they were actually screaming at him to not just lay there and to start acting like he just got his throat slit. Drewski did a behind the scenes vlog on it.
They couldn’t do a retake? And also the guys in this video thought he got shot
@@griftur if you pay attention you notice that it was slit.
there's no noise of any gun firing. none of the enemies had a gun, but one did have a sharp object.
when they leave and switch rooms, the one that follows them has the blade.
I know. I’m saying the guys reacting to this video thought he got shot, they said so themselves.
@@grifturthey had like 5 days 20k so I guess not
@@griftur NO as they did not have spare Uniform. The slit had to be smeared with red paint.
"Put more rounds into it..."
It's been a fucking WHILE since I've laughed this hard
Evan is a pretty talented guy but he and Steven Hancock really need to have a bigger budget and more time to make these films. The shooting for Overlord only took 5 days and they had to rush everything.
Waoh five days
@@midnight-blade9413 and something like 20k
They had to cancel Heretic because they couldn’t fund it. A bigger budget is not just something they can get.
production was 5 days but filming was 3
@@VulpusArmoryEven worse.
SCP is a huge fictional universe with extensive lore. I'm sure their is a universe based reason they keep their masks on. Also another thing, about him taking pictures, in the SCP universe, those who are dispatched to investigate an anomaly/abnormality are supposed to record everything out of the ordinary they find
In the brief earlier in the video something about an attack that involves chemicals from the occultist party (correct me if I'm wrong), that could possibly be the reason they wore gas masks :]
Yea, if you're in a universe where you could just be randomly vaporized by a random blade of grass you aren't going to use standard military tactics
"No one wants to be a mole rat." Then again the entry team is probably wearing that as some form of CBRN equipment, since an anomaly could be anything.
Yeah, after rewatching it a couple of times, they aren't sure exactly what they're up against. These guys are an advance recon team sent in to find out what they can about the nature of the anomaly and pacify any threats so the science teams could come in and figure out a containment strategy.
They know something caused a sudden shift in the behavior of the people at the compound, but they don't know if it's a virus, or a spore, or a memetic agent, cognitohazard, initially this kind of smells like Church of the Broken God, so maybe they're dealing with malevolent psychic machine parts. Given all the unknowns, gas masks seem like a perfectly precaution.
considering the scp foundation have ran into everything from grass sharp enough to hurt immortals to TH-cam videos that make you grow a 3d eye then go homicidal on your neighbour i think being overly careful about what your breathing in makes a lot of sense same with how they have special equipment to make sure they don't stare at something that will make you want to end yourself which the dude with the camera probs wish he had on him
30:55 You need a fuck-ton of SCP *knowledge* / *experience* to really understand scp:overlord, the team / squad *Village Idiots* is a team that isn't *strictly* a combat unit, it's mostly recon / surveillance (they can mix in with people in places due to their plain clothes they wear under their gear). They were sent to asses the basic info on the anomalies, get as much info as possible with what little gear they had, and in case of emergency, back out and wait for QRF or a more "suited" team for the job to take their place. In theory this mission could've gone down simply with little anomalies (like random floating people) but it turned into more freaky shit (invisible hooded figures and the mad inducing mirror) and then into even more freaky shit (when you realize the holes in the ground were places where huge ass tentacles came out of and were holding the floating people). For the first floor they clearly "scanned" the rooms with the Anomalous_Video_Recorder and didn't scan the other side of the hallway (this is seen before they go upstairs with the camera). It can be understood that they "cleared" the rooms on that floor earlier and only killed the "hooded figure" that they saw since there wouldn't really be a reason for another one to be hiding (else first one would've been hiding too).
At the beginning they also don't necessarily expect to enter a gunfight, which is why they don't bother to spread (also helps for the shots with the whole squad obviously), the guns are to deal with whatever anomalies they encounter, or to subdue any person they could come across. The point of *amnestics* is so the general populus doesn't know about anomalous beings, thus if they see a random person they take them "in" for amnestic treatment.
Also the masks are standard procedure in SCP task forces, they protect against gases that they might use / anomalous gases the entities might produce. Getting mind-controlled by the enemy into killing your team is not necessarily fun :)
TL;DR : 30:55 The squad doesn't deal with this kind of shit, they go and gather as much info as possible and leave QRF to deal with what's left if needed.
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Before these two react to anything else SCP related, they need to study up on SCP Lore, Tactics, Procedures, etc. Otherwise their comments/criticism won't hold up well to the rest of the community.
Wonder if they picked up that team for the story specifically because they know how limited their military knowledge is...
If yes, that's a nicely coherent choice.
@@117DIVISION Their criticisms hold up well because they did stuff like this irl, not larping about fake entities like schizos lol
@@aj897 they did not do this kind of stuff irl, the stuff shown in SCP Overlord is anomalous stuff that does not happen in real life thus the tactics shown in the film are different, as The Apex Hunters said, they dont expect to enter gunfights so they dont use the spacing thats used in real life combat situations.
I know it's kinda late, but in reality with their job the units wouldn't worry much about human threats as they typically are sent to deal with SCP's and things of the sort
Consider scp to be the biggest community writing project. Its like an anthology of supernatural shit that written like classified documents. Yea but most of the live action stuff aint that great, games are fun but never thought any military stuff involved with it
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You be surprise, look into the MTFs
@@jamariobrown-tolliver8163 beat me to it.
The MTF are mobile task force, they actually go out and clean up shit that went wrong
@@SAVAGEActual If you go look at the behind the scenes for this video, they actually have a military adviser there to help them out with stuff. Highly recommend it!
The creators didn't go along with some guy's realistic conception, where there was what is basically a Ranger batt supported by air support which gives investigative abilities and reconnaissance from the air, as well as close protection from special weapons teams for deployment of nuclear and exotic demolition systems or to provide extra reconnaissance of comprised facilities. But guess what? They disregarded it, because they didn't think it would be a cool as larping airshitters pretending it's COD
SCP ACTUALLY means "Special Containment Procedures". The foundation's motto is "Secure. Contain. Protect"
Cobra493, an army ranger I believe, reckons he'd be keen to consult with these types of stuff
I'd reach out honestly
you should know that he is a marine vet not a ranger
@@koc988 thats a shame
The whole "contain and protect" part is a bit of a Grey area but hey
About the lack of reaction when seeing the floating people. SCP crew is kinda "used" to this kinda of thing, so they were already expecting some weird shit.
Hey guys, just as an update on the details for the video. They were staying at an Airbnb and were not allowed to destroy or tamper with furniture inside the house. They also had a marine who served in mid 2000’s who was in charge of teaching tactics, which they only had a couple of days to learn and film the whole thing. The guy with the tented visor was the marine. Tactics need work, but overall, for what they had on hand and were able to do with the limited time, it’s not bad
It pissed me off how much these guys acted like they were watching a multi million dollar film made in 3 years. These guys royally piss me off. Its a volunteer film and they roast the cast for being small? Like wtf?
@@sawyerencinas6630 yeah, like i havent seen them made any movie but they criticize a film more than a film maker would and they want everything to be a mirror of real life even if it's a fiction. like what? like calm down, you're spec ops vets. not veteran on everything.
SCP does love their Amnestic Treatment.
For the Gas Mask stuff, the SCP MTF guys have some protocol as it comes to these zones where they are deployed into. And since any of the entities they are sent to neutralize or identify are typically super dangerous and unpredictable they need to wear them (I think that they have some gas mask like mask they use for these types of ops, hence the tubes).
Pictures are for intelligence use.
MTF are also sent in basically for high-risk or suicide missions and whatnot.
7:22 did this dude really just shrug his shoulders when he was asked if there was anything😂😂
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Few questions answered:
There are multiple different MTF teams that are tasked for different purposes. The QRF refers to another MTF team.
This entire movie is just another shift at the office for the SCP Foundation. Not like anybody cares about anyone in there.
The gear was too (wide?big?heavy?) to clear out every room.
Im going to edit this later but somethig about gas that they need to wear masks.
Im on the phone so reply to me if you want me to do something
I think some of the reasons that they are super packed in and could totally get mowed down and have no cover is cause they aren’t really gonna get shot at, they’re containing anomalies, not fighting militias.
SCP Means Secure Contain Protect, the SCP Foundation is a big organization that tries to contain anomalies. The Former Special Operations guys are the MTF, Mobile Task Force, they're the ground troops.
not federal the Fundation stands above govements
@@TheMandalp nothing of what you said made any sense
@@staple_boi I think he's tryna say ”foundation“ but I think he spelled it wrong
@@TheMandalp huh???
No SCP means Special Containment Procedure. Secure Contain Protect is their motto. The actual abbreviation of it is as I said Special Containment Procedure.
I love how they didn't sugar coat anything. So many reviewers are afraid they'd offend someone or lose followers. Just watching Jason getting legit angry at the quality was priceless.
They are always straight up honest. And its appreciated. Very uncommon these days.
I feel like that's why you almost never see them on gamology anymore lol
@@alphabroncotwozero392 wonder why they left
@@paulhourihan7045 They're not called SAVAGE Actual for nothing
@@paulhourihan7045 exactly right, one reason why I've been a fan since gameology.
Hey bit late but context is definitely required for scp short films. They did have one military guy and the rest was mostly volunteer. It's definitely more story focused. But you did a great job covering tactics for this film if it was conventional military. Some of the things were definitely stupid of them to do. But some of the conventional military tactics don't apply due to the fact that in the world they live in there are monsters that can most literally annihilate the universe.
These guys also had less than a week to film, about a 20k budget (they have to legally have all their funds crowd sourced bc of the kind of IP SCP is), their military tactics advisor was there for only a third of the shooting, and most SCP operatives are guys from max sec prisons and stuff privately trained by the foundation using the foundations tactics. No two situations are the same so the ROE and protocols for recon are different every time. Hence why they are loaded out the ass with gear. The gas masks are bc they don't know if there is some sort of undetectable pathogen/bioweapon/chemical in the environment.
After shooting the guy on the second floor, they failed to initially clear the two hallway adjacent rooms. The director said he noticed this and, unfortunately, they didn't have time during filming to shoot them clearing it.
A general rule of thumb as a recon ground force with the SCP is disturb the area as little as possible, since you don't know what object could do what or what kind of creatures could be where, but investigate the area as thoroughly as possible at the same time. This explains why they weren't just tearing the place apart.
Since they had eyes in the sky and constant surveillance on the local, they probably knew that no one had entered or exeted the building before they got there and while they where moving to the AO. Explains why they were comfortable moving out in the open like that.
They stated a couple times that the basement was reinforced. Now, you could either take that as just the door is reinforced, or the entire room. For thematic purposes, I choose to believe the entire basement room was reinforced. Hence why they couldn't just go through the wall. But they also want to disturb the physical area as little as possible since they don't know what's going on. It's not uncommon for an entire building to be the paranormal entity, and they don't want a "monster house" situation with operatives inside. (There's an entire story about a whole Ikea store that is connected to another dimension with faceless and hyper violent employees that roam the interior of the store.)
I really appreciate people like these guys that do genuine reactions to the tactics and gear and etc. Who have actual training and experience bc it helps me as a viewer and creator understand what's the reality of the situations are. I know that these guys know this is fiction and all their comments and observations are simply stating what would actually be happening if this was a real life military operation and not necessarily giving hard critique and criticism on the film. Looking forward to watching more of their stuff in the future and eventually buying merch.
25:10 "He deserved it, he never lifted weights" LMAO
Lol You can tell Jason is getting actually pissed about the tactics when Patrick says 'did that dude just get smoked?' And Jason says 'im glad he did. Fuck him'
Remember the anomalous stuff, floating people, demonic monsters are just another day in the office for these people
My issues with this video are they don’t have absolutely no idea what Scp is
I love it that in vet stack and now savage actual are both like... “these guys are tiny”
I want to write that the tasks of the scp foundation do not include the complete destruction of objects, only their study is included.
First time I saw this my first thought was, "no way any of those dudes could ruck into an OBJ then ruck out without sucking all the air out of that forest"
Hahahahaha
Savage!
that’s what I’m sayin smh 🤦🏽♂️😭
Just wanted to add something to the video: when you guys discussed about the tactics and criticized the actions taken. Please remember that these operators are not dealing with "conventional" targets. The risk of an actual firefight are low, so the "fatal funnel" and newer tactics used in real life are, quite simply, useless. The part where they are in the empty field is actually an effective tactic as the SCP Foundation is all about control. Having your operators accounted for and also limiting the obstacles of trees is critical to how they operate. The equipment that is used such as the gas mask are for the purpose of limiting exposure. I'm sure that you guys get these comments a thousand times per day but I wish I could tell y'all directly lol
Eh... That might be alright if they knew what the fuck was going on in there, but they don't. All their briefing told them was "there's a cult, they're suspected in multiple chemical weapons attacks in 2010, and a worrying number of people have been going missing in their sphere of influence." We don't actually know that the risk of a firefight is low.
Somebody collected and tacked up posters on their approach (a good reason to take a different approach) and somebody lit an effigy recently enough that it's still burning bright. All evidence points to there still being people here, that are apparently not averse to killing. Just because they have eldritch mojo doesn't mean they *don't* have guns, so assuming a formation in which one yokel with a Mini-14 could kill half of you is still bad.
Honestly, figuring out that you're expected along this path, and then going right down that path, is a terrible idea no matter what you're dealing with. Trail camera, cell phone, IED, g'night everybody.
@@PopeCocksmoker This is a recon mission. The SCP foundation literally don't give a rat's ass if these guy survive. All they needed was the data. These guys have seen some of the craziest shit know in the SCP universe. A bunch of photos and a floating people are not a main concern to them.
@@OnlyCitrus They're still walking right toward a point of entry that the enemy has plainly marked, in a formation that will get them killed if things turn out to be exactly what they seem.
Just because your bosses think you're expendable doesn't mean you have to be suicidal.
@@PopeCocksmoker
That was a cognito-hazard SCP, they were already dead the moment they stepped in
@@OnlyCitrus Sry to say this but it is bullshit.
The SCP foundation dont care about the D-Class persons.
This guys in the Movie are one of the Agent Cells the SCP have all over the World, ready to recon an paranormal Thing in the first place and what they deal with.
They are the Recon for the Contaiment Team who comes later sended from ohne of the SCP Areas.
Reconteam first with soldiers who have to confirm an contaiment, then comes the Contaiment Teams with Soldiers, Sic Guys and other operators like the D-Class.
I would definitely say they’re bunched up like that in order not to get separated and keep track of each other in the trees. They don’t know what kind of SCP they’re dealing with and it could snatch guys up as they’re in the woods spread out.
They aren’t dealing with combatants that use firearms. They normally deal with things that charge them or sneak around them. Spreading out would jeopardize mission integrity.
You guys sound like mental patients lol grow up
@@aj897 You sound like you're fun at parties
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You guys should charge people to do consulting work for these types of vids. This vid does sci-fi well but you guys could offer the tactical view points. Almost like how Battlestate hired ex-military for the raid series. Thumbs up great vid as always, keep being savage!
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Nothin could keep me from watching 🤟🏻🍻🥓🎮
for the gas mask thing I think its to make them look cool
One thing to say is that they had questions that were answered in the film but they were talk and not paying attention to the film.
"Whats with the gasmasks?" well, considering they're dealing with anomalies, and sometimes they radiate toxic fumes n shit, or can transport you into a whole different dimension based on touching someone affected by the anomaly, i'd wear a gasmask too.
Most of their gripes are outlet because they know nothing about scp which is fair but definitely got peeved that they keep talking without pausing so they miss the story beats. Hell they couldn't even put the fact that the dude was holding a knife and TL got his throat slit lol they thought he got shot
@@staple_boi it's kinda annoying when they are always like "that's not the right way' or "that's not how we do it" like not everything should be 1 to 1 of real life. if we did that in movies including court trials, it would be boring as fuck because those are just dramatized in movies.
@@farlonmuentes6004 Dude it’s like listening to Metal elitists talk. Like calm the fuck down, it’s a shoe string budget science fiction not a goddamn military documentary.
I know vets who’d hate these fuckers. Especially the ones I know who love science fiction and The SCP Foundation.
No you wouldn't, trust me a lot of us would rather risk it than to walk around in those fucking things for extended periods of time. They're fuckin hot, they fog up and limit your peripheral
@@farlonmuentes6004 I'm sure they really give a fuck about your hurt feelings kiddo. Go cry in your safe space
Don't get me wrong, the reaction is super entertaining, but I feel like the context to what the Foundation is and the Foundation's primary objective is totally lost here. Especially the gas mask comments. The Foundation deals with unexplainable anomalies every day. Those gasmasks might be necessary to avoid your internal organs becoming literal peanut butter. In a world where an anomaly can turn you inside out and replace your balls with pinecones, Foundation MTF teams probably don't want to take the risk of breathing in any of the surrounding air around some weird-o paranormal cult.
in their field of work, yes. gas mask isn't worn all the time but they forgot the context that this isn't the regular earth. SCP universe has some of the most ridiculous shit that will kill a person.
@@farlonmuentes6004 yeah, I might be wrong, but I think I remember something about some guy with a tiny planet in his abdomen, and if he becomes aware of it, the universe will collapse because of some time paradox. Basically, the foundation encounters some of the wildest shit and sometimes you just have to abandon human logic to deal with it
In SCP, operators often if not always wearing masks because they are dealing with supernatural shits. Sometimes, the infection can spread in the air. People get infected with god know what. So always mask on when dealing with SCP stuffs.
This was a really funny react video, but you did miss a TON of stuff that wouldve explained some of your problems. In fact you claimed it had a "nothing" story, even though you literally just ignored the entire plot?
The MTFs were wearing Gas Masks because the cult was committing chemical terrorist attacks and they suspect that there could be a biohazardous anomaly, the briefing introduction in the beginning explains this. Admittedly the real reason was COVID delays and dubbing issues but there is an actual story reason for them to wear gas masks.
They didn't eliminate the floating people above the house because their job is to contain and research all anomalies, merking the floating people immediately instead of keeping watch and letting QRF handle the containment completely defeats the point of their mission.
They used the gas artillery and grenades because they were testing if the CS would incapaciate the anomalies, you literally talked over it at around the 28:12 mark and complained that they didn't explain it.
You guys also missed the entire story about the cult getting infiltrated by the mirror anomaly and the cult leader doing the rituals to turn the cult members into the invisible creatures. The whole "standing around and talking" you complained about was part of the story. Along with all the other important plot you glossed over like the dead cultist in the basement explaining what happened to the cult, the fact that the floating people were the missing civilians they were looking for, etc.
My point is that talking shit and getting angry at the shoddy tactics and awareness is great, but claiming the movie just spent 30 minutes wasting your time with "talking about nothing" when you didn't even pay attention to the plot was just straight up wrong. Buuut at the same time, you guys weren't unreasonably angry or anything, so it's not really that big of a deal in the end.
Completely agree with you man, they glossed over everything that was happening. They were also complaining about the types of “military” tactics that were used in the movie, so I found another Veteran who reacted to this explaining everything & all the minor military details in here. They should probably react to this guy for context
m.th-cam.com/video/-GPbS7-otoc/w-d-xo.html
"It's like a bunch of kids did a fuckin' movie."
Eh. I mean, it's not like Hollywood tends to care that much about realism. Evan does at least try his best and his movies tend to have a lot better atmosphere and more interesting concepts than a lot of directors with ten times his experience.
It's also about fooling the average viewer, yeah? Like, yeah, it doesn't fool spec ops people that have been doing this forever and trained day-and-night. But most average viewers got fooled, so that is a big plus.
One thing also to add is when reality is malleable, it kind of throws in the air of the rules of what to do, to a certain degree. "Check the creature" might make sense when you're talking about a human, but when you're talking about something that doesn't care about how reality functions, checking it might result in you suddenly turning into a pile of soup. It's the idea of interact with as little as possible. Monster runs at you in an attempt to kill you? Shoot it. Don't do any more than you have to.
To summarise: as someone that writes for a living, listening to the tactics was super interesting and honestly I would've wanted more of that. But listening to people that don't work on narratives for a living criticise it was probably as painful to me as seeing bad tactics was to you two.
As long as the criticisms aren't aggressively personal, and I didn't get that impression, as a content creator having people be brutally honest and tear your shit apart is a great thing. Its not doing any favors to make excuses about xyz and cut them way too much slack if clearly things need to be worked on. Since this was only a small indie fan film its a great time to roast their work so they get that learning experience while the stakes are still low, way better to figure these things out now than moving forward and bombing on bigger more important projects.
@@Basilone45 Which would be correct if they kept to tactical criticism, but they didn't. There was narrative criticism and segments that were done for good filmography. In cases of narrative and filmography criticism, the criticism wasn't "brutally honest" it was bad and it felt as if they hadn't been paying attention.
Example being how they were confused how they got in the vault: one of the MTF had suggested putting in 1234 earlier, and the other refused. Later, he tried it and it worked. It was a well set up bit of humor that was criticised specifically because they both weren't paying attention but still wanted to complain about it.
Another one would be them wondering why they didn't just go through the wall. Which would've been fine a loose tactical comment of: "I'd just go through the wall." but when they keep repeating it and acting like an indie filmaker is an idiot for not being too keen on ruining an AirBnB, it makes them feel ignorant about the material they're criticising.
So as I said in the previous comment: it would've been great if they kept to the criticisms about tactics, because that's their element. When they criticised the narrative and filmography? I was cringing pretty hard.
A little addition: I believe this is Evan's second public liveaction indie piece and he's done multiple machinimas before. I really, really, *really* doubt his filmography is going to improve by people who've never made a single film or written a script supplying him impractical advice.
@@TechTehScience they were talking over the dialogues. they weren't even interested in knowing the context and why certain things go that way. they ripped on the guy that oversee the film on tactical aspects and mocked the volunteer actors like christ, if you're going to be this harsh on a film that was way more watchable than most triple A feature length that came out in the last 5 years, you should be able to do what they did way better with the same resources that they had.
also, these spec ops vets that apparently, realism experts too don't realize that most movies deviate from what is done in real life. for example, court trials which are overly dramatized in movies and tv but in reality they are boring as hell. if all movies were made using the jargons and specific things of a particular line of work, audience would be alienated and lose interest big time. you can't criticize something if you already fail in the most basic aspects of criticizing which is listening and observing.
To be fair on the production, they had a few days to film this under shit conditions. They did have a military consultant (but idk what tf he did). And yeah I expected you guys to rip this up lol enjoyable anyways 🤙
Its never personal. Just observations from grumpy combat vets.
@@SAVAGEActual this is what makes you guys awesome
@@SAVAGEActual Thing is you guys did miss a few key things while you were talking, like when you were confused on why they dropped gas, literally 10 seconds before they said they wanted to test and see if it would knockout/effect any on the outside if there were more (Also they had gas mask because they never know what they are about to deal with so better safe then sorry xD) Good reaction though.
@@flixytip4571 That’s the main problem with reaction formats instead of commentary. This takes less time to make and ‘analyze’, but they also miss key details and rush their thoughts. This isn’t a breakdown, it’s just two guys dumping on a movie together and it’s great for that.
They need to get you guys as consultants for the next one. It'd be so much better
Thanks for watching. We appreciate the comments. Stay Savage!!!
XD Good luck
Apparently they already had one for this
I believe there's a behind the scenes video about this
@@ApexHydra- most stuff that deals with military does have an adviser, but sometimes that adviser either doesn’t pull their weight, or the team doesn’t listen. Either way, these two would make it better no matter the reason. I mean, I’d listen to em
Me before: "Wow, this video's really cool."
Them: "Their tactics were bad, do better next time."
Me now: "Yeah man, tactics were trash."
Hahaha, not in any way personal, but a lot of people are clearly offended.
@@SAVAGEActual At the end of the day, you were just telling the Overlord guys how to make a better movie. People need to stop getting so triggered all the time. Because if clueless people, like me, saw a movie in the future that was both well-funded (Which Overlord was not) AND had you guys advising on the realism, it would be insanely awesome. Keep being insanely awesome yourselves.
@@SAVAGEActual offended huh. Why?
Well, at the end of the day, SCP is all about the horror genre and the weird anomalies that go on and how the organization itself deals with it. Not really so much about spec ops guys doing tactical stuff.
@@handtomouth4690 some people were offended on how they were like, saying the tactics and bad and shit. When the people who watched it are like "Bruh they didnt have any budget"
“Alot of talking” OBVIOUSLY ITS A FUCKING FILM HOLY SHIT
film = talking lmao
Lmaooo soft ass faces 😂😂
So what you guys are saying is don't fight invisible cultist with an airsoft team ??????
Thats exactly what we're saying.
@@SAVAGEActual You guys are pretty awesome. Keep it up with the videos. Easy way to pass time at the firehouse.
I think it's worth mentioning that the SCP isn't exactly known for caring about their soldiers. When they were told to ignore the floating bodies, they'd better obey the order because disobeying the foundation isn't a street anyone wants to go down. As for the constant masks, I've always seen SCP soldiers depicted that way. Given the fact that they never know what kind of anomaly they're dealing with, I guess it's just standard for them.
"Why the gas mask"
Scp-008: *observe*
Just woke up, Seriously this upload has already made my day.
Same
One of them was a vet with combat deployment and they had a real military advisor
Did they show up for work?
@@SAVAGEActual lmao
@@SAVAGEActual bruh 🤣🤣
@@SAVAGEActual Drewski did a behind the scenes that shows a lot of that training and stuff, maybe that might be worth checking out?
Having watched both his video and the director's Q&A video he did after the movie came out, you were on the money with certain things sacrificing military procedure for fitting the shot.
For example, Pendor was supposed to be in the third room at the end of the hallway, instead of in the hallway itself. In that version, the MTF would clear each room, instead of walking past uncleared doorways to confront Pendor on that upper level. It was scrapped because the rooms were too small to fit the MTF + their gear, Pendor, and a cameraman.
I believe the gasmasks are because they don't know what type of anomaly it is, and some anomalies are indeed gaseous in nature. So it is more of a "just in case" thing, I think.
Combat deployments experience may vary
"He deserved it. He never lifted weights" 😂😂😂😂
They talk over the speaking scenes and complain about them talking then say “this isn’t making a lot of sense” lol that’s why they are chatting
Oh man, if you havnt already, react to the 096 movie. THAT shit is quality. I think I remember them overusing the whole “Roger, over” thing but other than that the shit is intense. EDIT: 096 short film on TH-cam. It’s not a 2 hour movie
Thanks for the suggestion!
@@SAVAGEActual Hahaha watching how you guys tore this apart, you’ll like 096 quite a bit more I think. I remember this one had me continually asking “where’s the fucking 360 security”
@@SAVAGEActual dont worry I think its made by a different writer,i think.lol
@@SAVAGEActual and if u guys dont mind watching audiobooks or novel types of videos i reccomend the channels (the volgun,scp illustrated,exploring series)
Who made the 096 one? I tried to look it up and there’s a bunch of them
Now I'm not CQB expert, but if I'm in a house with floating dudes above it and a door starts to open on its own, I'm smoking that mf doorway no question lmao, especially after the TL gets shwacked
Problem whit this your objective is to get things like this alive you are only alowed to kill for self protection. (and sometimes not even then)
@@firstLast-jw7bm you should be because killing a potential scp without good reason can be punishable by dead.
Has nothing to do with CQB. They were trying to see if they could take it alive(the ideal scenario) for research.
@@firstLast-jw7bm you would never make it in the S.C.P foundation but the G.O.C may be right up your alley! the foundation captures things like this the goc kills them!
@@firstLast-jw7bm *throws you and your squad at 106 for disobeying orders and not stopping you from firing at the anomaly*
it was all made in, I think my guy said three or four days, and two scenes were done once due to the time it took for them, and some scenes had mistakes that couldn't be noticed so they left them in. Also forgot, the guys that did these scenes, loved doing them.
“I hope it’s an IED” 🤣
That part killed me 😂😂
high school kids making a movie as their favorite role: Operators lol
Most of them if not all are older than high school👏🏻😂
Hey guys, this vid is something I’ve been looking forward to. Question for Patrick and Jason. If the Armed Forces had a unit to deal with paranormal threats, would you two sign up?
Absolutely. Start training for Space Force. The Aliens are coming. :)
@@SAVAGEActual 🤣
@@SAVAGEActual y'all wild AF-!😂🤣
SCP meaning and then the first result is literally the answer to the question. Yall a bunch of Tech Boomers
These are the type of people that talk through movies about how bad it is the whole time. Like jesus. They didnt even research was scp was so they had some context. Its a volunteer film funded by patreon and string cheese and they roast the cast for no reason. They act like its a blockbuster multi million dollar film over 3 years
I like that the assumption that the gas being used is concealing someone, even though its been established that the only way you can see the entities is with the camera. The other thing I notice is veterans comment on leaving one of the team members behind. They have no choice, once someone is affected by whatever is going on, the team should have as little interaction with the dead teammate as possible. They run the risk of also being affected by whatever is going on, or bringing it with them. It could also appear as though the affected person is still alive, that does not matter, they are affected and must stay in the affected area. MTF are first responders, sure they might not know exactly what to do, but there are protocols in place to reduce the risk of being affected by whatever is happening. There are things that can happen purely because you think about it. There are things that can happen if it is picked up by one of the 5 senses. There could be an interdimensional being that feeds off of the living. Not just by eating it, they could feed off of the fear of it, or devotion to it. It could be sustained just by being near a living being. There is also the potential that there is an object that is causing things to happen. MTF get the baseline of what could be happening, then a specialized team can be assembled to further understand what is going on, and how to deal with it.
Edit: Also don't think of MTF as top tier special forces. These are the guys most likely to die, they don't have a lot of training in any one specialty of dealing with whatever is going on. Think of them as booters that were told they could join something that goes around the world investigating weird phenomena. You can't risk sending a person that has specialized training and experience if it turns out that this phenomena might look like it fits a certain protocol but it turns out to not follow, and that specialized member has no idea of how to deal with the phenomena.
I agree. I’ve watched a lot of these react videos, and the things they all have in common is that no one reacting knows what the SCP foundation is, or read any of them. This and dollhouse aren’t ‘’mil sim” movies, they’re SCP movies. Even with the gas, they describe it as a non lethal. To me that seems a little more than just smoke. Of course it’s not accurate from a military standpoint, but these aren’t active duty members of any countries military.
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle I have never read that mtf was best of the best. I've read ots made up of some SOF, but also guys like war criminals since no one cares if they go missing. I have read the job supposedly goes through a TON of bodies. Losing your skilled and knowledgeable veterans without finding out what the hell is actually going on is a bad recipie
@@uhdude34I think the upper echelons of MTFs, like Samsara, are where you find the highly trained and irreplaceable ex-SOF guys.
MTFs like this are filled with war criminals, ex-cons with military experience, and loose cannons so I believe you're right
I feel like you think it didn't flow because you were talking over half the dialouge. They also did have a military advisor who consulted with various scenes like the house clearing, and you did miss a few things like them checking the closet in the laptop room at the start of the scene. The idea of the gasmasks and the reactions to the anomalies is that they interact with this kind of stuff all the time. I understand it had a lot of problems, but several of the things you complained about were addressed and you just kind of missed them.
Vets don't need no dialogue.
@@handtomouth4690 except when the dialogue explains most of the stuff. Half of their complaints wouldnt exist if they paused to talk and listened. Stuff like the CS gas, the lack of security regarding the floating people, and the general story were explained but they just talked over it and then complained the story was terrible.
@@handtomouth4690 huh? did you think about that comment of yours?
They keep talking about being frustrated with the film but that's just because they fail to not see it in a military light. This isn't the military so obviously they aren't going to act like the military. The point of the SCP task forces are that they are allowed to enter strange areas and investigate as much as they can before returning to the foundation. They aren't like the real military at all. Their objective isn't to find and detain humans, they are just supposed to study the creatures. Meaning they will not follow the same procedures as normal soldiers. Their frustration is just dramatic. This is why vets shouldn't react to videos like this because they only try to see it through their point of view and experience. But why are you guys trying to compare real life experiences with a film about the supernatural. You should expect things to be weird or unnatural because that's the entire premise of it.
still a lot of stupidity and the super delta spetznas force that went in first still looked like twelve year olds, like im 17 and I think I could beat them all up
@@autisticthiccboy8986 the fact you're 17 and you're saying stuff like this about people you don't even know is proof enough that youre both weak physically and mentally. No person who is actually strong has to brag about how they can beat people up. Grow up man. Graduate first and then try to act like a big shot.
@@autisticthiccboy8986 say your age then say "beat em up".. yup. you are 17, kid.
@@dust9497 i've seen most comments here that instantly agrees with these vets suddenly became experts. i bet they were all 17 as well trying to be edgy.
they are d class which are send to get intel about the scp and they usually dies most of the time
so dont want to be them
I think you got mtf and d class mixed up
they won't give that kind of weapon to a d-class. they are prisoners and criminals, you won't give anything to them that can motivate them to go up against the task force.
"bunch of soft face looking dudes." To be fair, the SCP foundation goes through so, so many staff via {REDACTED} that they have to keep a steady supply.
Heads up. It's not real. :)
I would love to see these guys strap a few gopros on themselves and go absolutely wild in an airsoft field
That may be coming.
@@SAVAGEActual Right on man
I belive they wear the hasmask because there are a lot of SCPs which can create or are hazardous materials
They're called farts.
@@SAVAGEActual It's a shame you knew nothing about the material at hand. a decent chunk of your reactions are irrelevant in the context of the SCP universe.
“When’s the last time you found some random electronic in a drawer that’d been there for a while and it was still charged?” *me looking at my Aimpoint comp m4 in my drawer*
The savage actual team is stressed by this movie i love it
Laughed my ass off the whole time. I hope this reaction, in conjunction with mine, shows that veterans just cant help themselves sometimes. If a semi-tactical movie is presented, we're naturally going to point shit out.
Just like all things in the universe: balanced
Fancy seeing you here Chief
the curse of professionalism
MTF(Mobile Task Force) of the SCP foundation is pretty much the "Expendable" combat unit. According to the lore, In every unknown anomaly event or containment breach, MTF casualties are routine business.
The house is someone's actual home that they were allowed to use. That's why they barely touched the place and was very careful about what they did to the home.
You keep talking over the plot and then ask why did that just happen, listen to the script.
"Do you just want to hear us talk shit?" Yes. 100%. You probably don't want to do a two-hour-long rant about the tactics and everything but I want you to know I am 100% here for it. I will drink that shit like cults drink the kool-aid.
Hahahaha
Patrick and Jason have of course been involved in paranormal operations in their military career
Its called thailand.
@@SAVAGEActual hahahaha
@@SAVAGEActual haha
Just a heads up. The reason the Mobile Task Force are wearing civilian clothes is because they are apart of the unit Epsilon-6 "Village Idiots" who's goal is that if something goes bad they can ditch the combat gear and hide out.
Explanations for things you didn't understand:
Gas masks are worn due to the fact that they don't know what the anomaly is, meaning it could generate gasses or lethal chemicals.
Anomalies are ignored due to the previous mentioned fact that they don't know what the anomaly is, and may be hostile to:
-Gunfire/Gunshots
-Loud noises
-Visual Contact
Also they ignore the people up there because there are other squads
Next, if you quit on the job while dealing with a dangerous anomaly, you'd be shot for treason, as the SCPF works for the greater good of the planet
Another thing is they're used to the floating people. The SCPF's task forces have done way worse, being involved in containment operations of many world-ending SCPs.
2-4 Was pulled into the hole, and not shot.
Can't find anything else, if anybody else wants to add, reply to this.
Edit: I haven't watched you, this is my first video, but you already made me a minor amount angry. You saying the story wasn't strong is because I doubt you've read the SCP Wiki, and if you have, you'd realize that the foundation isn't government funded. The entire foundation is basically ran by 13 (Now 9 i think because O5-2 shot 4 of the other O5) council members called the O5. Please don't take this wrong, these are just my thoughts.
Dont even bother man their attention span is not greater than a 6 yo. They did not catch 90% of the plot.
A little too harsh man, these are people with limited and most importantly someone should have told em scp is more about the anamolies and less about how military accurate they look.
apparently, every movie should be graded based on realism regardless of being fiction. not the cinematography or story telling. if they missed a mark on being real, they're horrible. damn, marvel movies must be lowest scores on rotten tomatoes if that's the case.
The dubbed voiceover is due to all of them wearing gas masks for the film. It made it incredibly difficult to capture dialogue.
It wasn't the actual airsofters speaking though
Appreciate you guys watching this. Although I didn't request it I can't say I didn't want to hear both of your takes on it.
Here's hoping next time Evan and the rest of his crew retain a bunch of vets, preferably in both advising and acting roles.
I’m a day late but I believe the reason for the gas mask besides the cool factor is because the nature of some scps and the fact that when most of the task forces are deployed they have no idea what they’re up against and the gas mask could help.
Yes been waiting for this one! Commentary was great 😂
I feel like just a single viewing of the combat sequences in Act of Valor would have made these actors way more convincing.
The entire time I watched this I was laughing, you guys are hilarious.
To answer Patrick's question, Kolinski doesn't have an accent because despite wearing a Polish flag he is a US born Polish-American. Same with Cicero, he wears an Italian flag but is a US born Italian-American.
So in other words, they both should've worn a US flag.
@@RoyalDog214 Yes and no. After all SPC is a non-government agency meaning it's TF members are not required to display their nation's flag the same way military personnel would.
To be fair I think it's actually just a way to distinguish characters better as I would assume private sector operators would actually refrain from wearing flags to begin with.
Can you guys do a reaction to Reticulon's animation titled "Spall and splinter"?
this!
Thatd be great.
it’s not a normal environment, maybe irl you wouldn’t wear a gas mask, but in this scenario where they have no idea what the threat could be, you need to be ready for anything. they aren’t fighting a conventional enemy, they’re fighting supernatural anomalies
9:50 the reason for the gas masks is because the anomaly they are facing doesn’t have as much information as the already captured ones, so it could be a biohazard which would require the use of gas masks. And no it’s not only trying to look *cool* they’re doing what they’re doing because they aren’t going into a gunfight they’re attempting to capture an *anomaly.*
Btw it’s not just dry wall they literally rented out an AirBNB for this film
I love how these Vets and JuntinRed's vets stack have all the same reactions lol These SCP videos are funny when it comes to the tactical viewpoint
Obviously someone already answered what does "SCP" stands for, so i'm not gonna repeat the answer. But i do have a question.
If Evan Royalty (the creator of the short film) plans on making another SCP short movie would you guys take part in it? Either as a technical advisor or maybe physically acting as an MTF (Mobile Task Forces) operator?
I'd hope so.
That'd be cool
I'm a massive fan on the SCP setting/universe, it's such a great concept where you basically have any number of amateur writers doing their own short stories using the SCP-framework to make the stories relatively cohesive. And the fact that someone managed to use crowd-funding to make a short film of this caliber that takes place in a pretty niche setting/universe will forever blow my mind.
Message to people trying to defend this short movie: Yes, these guys might not be SCP foundation nerds, but what they are is experienced in military operations. Meaning- all their points are extremely valid and they DO NOT need any context about the SCP foundation to be in the right. Military, especially the people working for the best Mobile Task Forces in the SCP world should be well trained, tactical and not make these stupid mistakes they've done here. That said- this is just for fun and not an actualy high-budget movie. The actors are amateurs or doing it for the first time (Drewski). These guys are providing good critique and future movies could benefit from this.
I dont think they understand its just a film people threw together like who cares what they do wrong its not gonna be perfect like any movie out there that has millions to work with for all the best qualitys and tactics u got to understand that its paranormal not really life of course there not gonna look everywhere it showed what they were there for who the guy was they came there for there wasn't anymore people.and they knew that because they were told in the beginning
I was under the impression that the gas masks in this film were a way to work covid precautions on set into lore.
No, previous films did the same thing. It's because they don't record the audio live, it's dubbed in after the fact with voice actors. Mainly due to the fact proper audio recording equipment is a lot more expensive and difficult than adding it in post, also they get to choose voice actors with better voices than the actors.
To be fair, these guys aren't special forces, they are MTF, aka mobile task force, they aren't just there to secure the place, like when they threw gas at that one on the ceiling, they were probably testing to see if they could knock them out for further study