We wish we could boom like this on arena. At 1200-1400 elo you always end up with a Castle Drop/All In from your opponent. Give us I guide to "How to not die to Castle Droppers/All In type of players"
I'm also 1300 and I just wall a small area (right around the range of the castle), add some monks and Siege, a second tc, a castle and try to be faster up to win the treb war
Yeah I want a « what to do when your opponent starts building a castle in your face » guide. I tried to fight with vills to deny the castle but it never works. Maybe build 2 towers and garrison them ?
@@raphaelguerin2691 Make a couple outposts in late feudal so you see them coming and, as soon as you see where they are dropping the castle, make another wall out of castle range, use the necessary vills, not just 1. Monks and mangonels should do the trick to hold enough for you to go imp and trebs or/and get support from pocket. Also, expand outside near your pocket base if possible. I've noticed that, at that ELO, castle droppers often get distracted and don't develop a good economy for late game. So you have some advantage there. Don't stop creating vils, you can delete them later if needed. Last but not least, use the market to get the necessary resources if they are blocking any gold or stone mines.
Amazing build order: boom into "black death." 11 I liked your point about just knowing what you're trying to do as well. Build orders are great, but understanding what to save for at what timings is super helpful. Sounds super basic but I think 1) what do I want to go for (especially for a specific match-up)? 2) what eco and technology do I need for that to happen? Then build around it. I also like to plan to have a bit more resources than I'll need so that I can adapt easier under pressure. Awesome vid and pointers as usual❤
rough order dark age: 6 on food 3 on wood push deer/lure boar, 2-3 rotting max berries approx 13/15 vills to ~3 keep adding to food till 18 total vills, add 2-3 farms with tc food vills, and vills 18-21 on wood (for 7 on wood) vills 22/23 on gold up feudal: on up queue 2 vills, on up 2 vills on mrket,1 on blacksmith up again on way to castle: double bit axe send 2-3 to berries (6 or 7 total on berries) grab horse collar and make couple extra farms think about tc locations castle: 6-8 vills pull for 2x town centres (3-4 on each), replacing with new vills from tc might need to buy wood to grab bowsaw, probably heavy plow (optional) will probably cause idle boom with 3x tc,adding houses and mainly farms around 45-50 vills start sending to stone/gold to afford 4th tc around 50 vills grab wheelbarrow and hand cart (~20 mins) wanna put 1-2 vills on building houses constantly decide army comp, adjust eco accordingly ~65 vills lump on stone to get castle later around now grab gold mining (possibly stone too, but optional) just after this get pre-req buildings (mon + uni) aim to get 1k food and 800 gold for ~90 pop up to imp (roughly 2:4:1:0.5 ratio of wood,food,gold and stone) on up to imp: transition to mil buildings + techs needed for army comp, starting with barracks e.g stables (5+), horse armour, bloodlines, husbandry and attack for paladins, probably want ballistics regardless drop castle on way up to be done on up start queuing desired units imp: conscription from castle should get to ~50 mil and 140-150 vills, send new vills to resource outside walls e.g close gold, stone etc not fussed if lose these, ~130 vills inside walls feel free to add more mil buildings + castle outside walls when sending vills outside 200 pop ~32 minutes fin presuming you didn't get a castle put on your face at ~15-20 minutes lol
BTW this is a great video for anyone who wants to learn how to boom. With all due respect this will only work upto 1150 elo, you will get castle dropped and siege pushed into oblivion. On team games your flank gets castle dropped and everyone will curse you if you simply boom and not support them.
Hi Hera, as usual, great video. You mentioned a farm cap if going for cav archers. It would be nice to also give an estimate of wood/gold vils if going for knight rushes.
Love this! Would also love to know the best way to defend against arena castle drop if booming is your strat. Recently got poles on arena and opted instead for a fast castle drop because I was afraid of a donjon rush. Should I have taken advantage of their crazy boom instead?
Hera this was a fantastic video. If you can provide a commentary on your recorded video like this by explaining things by pausing in between would be even better. I know that you already have such videos but I am talking about a complete guide including booming ,military ,upgraded. Players like me find it difficult to grasp so much in such small time. Make an hour long video if you can.
if you have khmer u can do 26pop up 4tc with all eco uprages when hitting castle age, 6 on food, 4 on wood, 4 on berries, make a second lumbercamp put 4 vills there, add 4farms and when u have 22villagers put the next one (23rd) on stone and build a mining camp, last 3 villagers goes to gold, when u have 200gold click castle age, take off your gold villagers and put them into wood, when you are going to castle age try to be at 10-12 on food and rest on wood so you can afford all eco upgrades instantly. when u reach castle age you should have almost a thousand wood with 300 stone construct your tc's only with 2 vills each, prioritize bowsaw and heavyplow, if u have enough resources u can grab wheelbarrow but u can also do it later.
Awesome build order like always Hera! how is your spanish? would you consider doing tutorials en español? thanks for the great guide, i will try it next time.
What I do (I picked this up from Ganji's boom video from 1-2 years ago) is when I build a TC on stone on Arena, I have two of the villagers go immediately to stone once it is up. It marginally slows down your wood income but the timing works out that you'll have that 100 stone around the time you can afford the fourth TC (depends on civ, but it's around the time you got Wheelbarrow or a bit before). If a TC on stone isn't viable I just add 2 to gold and buy the 100 stone.
My tip to do it even better (Hera let me know what you think): I actually send the 3 or 4 last wood vills on gold first, take around 10 gold each and build another lumberjack to drop the gold and have more efficient wood in another location, usually one near the berries one somewhere else, then market blacksmith & sell 100 wood and up, a bit better than your version i believe no?
"85% of civs have some sort of eco bonus". People can come up with statistics to prove anything. Forfty percent of all people know that. - classic 90s Simpsons Homer
If you just blindly do this in 3v3, 4v4 as pocket it'll probably work 2/3rds of the time in the 1100-1300 elo space. Players know how to get past walls here but are inconsistent about doing it. The other 1/3rd needs to identify and prepare for gimmicks, conqs/arambai/siege-towers/petards. I personally like to build a 'free' interior secondary wall with my structures outside of castle-drop-arrow-fire to contain gimmick pushes and buy time to transition out of boom and into unit production This build falls apart after castle age imo on 2v2 or 1v1 above 1200 as there is no 'pocket' and its age-of-castle drop into UU and you'll never be allowed to free boom. Still hopeful to see how ram buffs may shift that meta a little.
All I know is how to boom, dont know anything else :D I wish there was a competition who would reach 200 population IMP with at least 50% research done xd Anyway should you include your monks to boom, to pick up relics as soon as possible?
Can you make a video about mega booming on arena with Bulgarian? I know it's not a good strat at high level, but I would like to see the most efficient way of booming with 5 tc on arena.
I wish it worked like this. When I go pocket, my flanck is always getting castle dropped because he doesn't know how the arena works, I save him and then I am all exposed. He always halts for some reason his eco and he's never get back up. When I go flanck, which is what I've been doing, I am really good at castle dropping except if I find a person on the opposite side like Hera, and when I'm asking for support, like pre-asking, I'm clearly saying this is the strategy from dark age, please support my castle, I'm receiving the response "lol bro I'm booming", which leads me to get obliterated by 1v2 and then hoping the boomer fights both of them until I get my eco up again, which is a stupid thing to do. People play team games thinking only for themselves. They cannot think outside the box or really be team players. "This is what I ve learnt to do and this is what I'm doing"
Cool video and I'm tempted to get the game and see if I could execute this. But I feel like you're doing a million little things with muscle memory and I think a beginner would need to go through this video second by second.
I've tried to comment twice but they keep getting automatically removed 😭 I'm not sure what I'm typing wrong that YT doesn't like, I just wanted to explain the bug that made his gold vill only drop off 9 instead of 10 when he was trying to buy food
His boom was good (100 vill at 26m with wb,hc) but eco balance for imp was off yeah - prob bc hes playing and talking to explain which slows things down
@@VuLe-fv8cg It can be, but like I was saying this is a demonstration video showing you how to do it and he explains that it's not 100% optimal all the way through but the steps/order of things and process is correct - only some of the small details aren't 100% optimal but those details change depending on the civ.
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We wish we could boom like this on arena. At 1200-1400 elo you always end up with a Castle Drop/All In from your opponent. Give us I guide to "How to not die to Castle Droppers/All In type of players"
Hera did already one. Search "Castle drop"
There is one!
I'm also 1300 and I just wall a small area (right around the range of the castle), add some monks and Siege, a second tc, a castle and try to be faster up to win the treb war
Yeah I want a « what to do when your opponent starts building a castle in your face » guide. I tried to fight with vills to deny the castle but it never works. Maybe build 2 towers and garrison them ?
@@raphaelguerin2691 Make a couple outposts in late feudal so you see them coming and, as soon as you see where they are dropping the castle, make another wall out of castle range, use the necessary vills, not just 1. Monks and mangonels should do the trick to hold enough for you to go imp and trebs or/and get support from pocket. Also, expand outside near your pocket base if possible. I've noticed that, at that ELO, castle droppers often get distracted and don't develop a good economy for late game. So you have some advantage there. Don't stop creating vils, you can delete them later if needed. Last but not least, use the market to get the necessary resources if they are blocking any gold or stone mines.
Amazing build order: boom into "black death." 11
I liked your point about just knowing what you're trying to do as well. Build orders are great, but understanding what to save for at what timings is super helpful. Sounds super basic but I think 1) what do I want to go for (especially for a specific match-up)? 2) what eco and technology do I need for that to happen? Then build around it. I also like to plan to have a bit more resources than I'll need so that I can adapt easier under pressure.
Awesome vid and pointers as usual❤
rough order
dark age:
6 on food
3 on wood
push deer/lure boar, 2-3 rotting max
berries approx 13/15 vills to ~3
keep adding to food till 18 total vills, add 2-3 farms with tc food vills, and vills 18-21 on wood (for 7 on wood)
vills 22/23 on gold
up
feudal:
on up queue 2 vills, on up 2 vills on mrket,1 on blacksmith
up again
on way to castle:
double bit axe
send 2-3 to berries (6 or 7 total on berries)
grab horse collar and make couple extra farms
think about tc locations
castle:
6-8 vills pull for 2x town centres (3-4 on each), replacing with new vills from tc
might need to buy wood to grab bowsaw, probably heavy plow (optional) will probably cause idle
boom with 3x tc,adding houses and mainly farms
around 45-50 vills start sending to stone/gold to afford 4th tc
around 50 vills grab wheelbarrow and hand cart (~20 mins)
wanna put 1-2 vills on building houses constantly
decide army comp, adjust eco accordingly
~65 vills lump on stone to get castle later
around now grab gold mining (possibly stone too, but optional)
just after this get pre-req buildings (mon + uni)
aim to get 1k food and 800 gold for ~90 pop up to imp (roughly 2:4:1:0.5 ratio of wood,food,gold and stone)
on up to imp:
transition to mil buildings + techs needed for army comp, starting with barracks
e.g stables (5+), horse armour, bloodlines, husbandry and attack for paladins, probably want ballistics regardless
drop castle on way up to be done on up
start queuing desired units
imp:
conscription from castle
should get to ~50 mil and 140-150 vills, send new vills to resource outside walls e.g close gold, stone etc not fussed if lose these, ~130 vills inside walls
feel free to add more mil buildings + castle outside walls when sending vills outside
200 pop ~32 minutes
fin
presuming you didn't get a castle put on your face at ~15-20 minutes lol
Man this helps hugely. Thanks for this
Csn you make this into a color coded pdf?
@@commiedoge747 no worries did it for myself to take a screenshot and then thought may as well post it, hopefully it’s fine by hera, if not plz delete
also just tried it first time vs ai took me about 34-35 mins hit 200 but I was floating a lot and obvious inefficiency playing as franks
Thanks for sharing @@XzMattyxZ
I love your educational content so much, keep going bro! ❤
BTW this is a great video for anyone who wants to learn how to boom. With all due respect this will only work upto 1150 elo, you will get castle dropped and siege pushed into oblivion. On team games your flank gets castle dropped and everyone will curse you if you simply boom and not support them.
Hera is mostly focused on 1v1, but he's already done the castle drop video. That might help with defending against it.
Not true. In my Ranked TGs as pocket I boom like this most of the time and it works really well. Not ALL games, but most. Hit 1500s TG semi recently
git gud
This is one of the best videos for a beginner to the ranked ladder
Hi Hera, as usual, great video. You mentioned a farm cap if going for cav archers. It would be nice to also give an estimate of wood/gold vils if going for knight rushes.
Survivalist made a tool that exactly tells you how many e.g. for two stable knights. Just Google "Survivalist heroku App"
Oh cool, u and sitaux used the same civ in the arena booming guide ! Awesome guide man, tks
Been playing for 25 years and this was still very interesting to watch. Thanks!
Thanks for the video, Hera. It's much appreciated
Spirit of the Hera?
Hera of the Law?
Both. Both is good
The law of Hera
Thank you so much, my first win against extreme ❤
Next time my pocket booms for 29 minutes while I’m dying 2v1 I’m going to blame you Hera!😂
4:35 100% was going to say like a noob but quick walled it a the last second
17:43 Hera saying "ballistics are cool, PERO....". He's turnin into argentinian. We are proud of you 🥳
He said, But I don't need that right now. Not even close to pero whatever that means
Put off the banana from your ear. He said "pero", and it means "but" in spanish.
How anyone can hear "pero" when he says "but" in perfectly normal english is confusing to me.
Wow dedication the re-record, thanks Hera!
You are an angel❤ ty for re-recording and uploading this
Love this! Would also love to know the best way to defend against arena castle drop if booming is your strat. Recently got poles on arena and opted instead for a fast castle drop because I was afraid of a donjon rush. Should I have taken advantage of their crazy boom instead?
learnt the tc-boar trick:v...big fan bro,,, take love from bangladesh❣.
Hera this was a fantastic video. If you can provide a commentary on your recorded video like this by explaining things by pausing in between would be even better. I know that you already have such videos but I am talking about a complete guide including booming ,military ,upgraded. Players like me find it difficult to grasp so much in such small time. Make an hour long video if you can.
Is it bad to delay those first 3 farms until horse collar and send the extra villagers to berries instead?
Yes you want have food to click castle age if you do that
inspiring guide, definitely help in elo game
Thanks Hera
I needed this. Thanks!
if you have khmer u can do 26pop up 4tc with all eco uprages when hitting castle age, 6 on food, 4 on wood, 4 on berries, make a second lumbercamp put 4 vills there, add 4farms and when u have 22villagers put the next one (23rd) on stone and build a mining camp, last 3 villagers goes to gold, when u have 200gold click castle age, take off your gold villagers and put them into wood, when you are going to castle age try to be at 10-12 on food and rest on wood so you can afford all eco upgrades instantly. when u reach castle age you should have almost a thousand wood with 300 stone construct your tc's only with 2 vills each, prioritize bowsaw and heavyplow, if u have enough resources u can grab wheelbarrow but u can also do it later.
Awesome build order like always Hera! how is your spanish? would you consider doing tutorials en español? thanks for the great guide, i will try it next time.
Great video!
Thats how my pocket usually plays, when i get castle dropped and play 2v1 on flank.
Very good guide, thank you!
Well done thanks man! I want to get in to ranked so bad but I know ill get my ass kicked, now I will only get my ass kicked half as much!
This is what I needed. Now I can start winning!!!
What I do (I picked this up from Ganji's boom video from 1-2 years ago) is when I build a TC on stone on Arena, I have two of the villagers go immediately to stone once it is up. It marginally slows down your wood income but the timing works out that you'll have that 100 stone around the time you can afford the fourth TC (depends on civ, but it's around the time you got Wheelbarrow or a bit before). If a TC on stone isn't viable I just add 2 to gold and buy the 100 stone.
Love it my boy
Just the most humble player of aoe 2 best content
Of course hera grabs hussar even when up 100 pop against the AI 😂😂
My man!
imagine if they added oil in this game
Hera, “you should only take two hunt at a time as a general rule” proceeds to take three hunt the whole time.:)
Awww yeah. Cant fall asleep on this one so will come back to it
Not that i fall asleep to your silky voice Hera
My tip to do it even better (Hera let me know what you think): I actually send the 3 or 4 last wood vills on gold first, take around 10 gold each and build another lumberjack to drop the gold and have more efficient wood in another location, usually one near the berries one somewhere else, then market blacksmith & sell 100 wood and up, a bit better than your version i believe no?
Hera: You need to pay attention in order to use this video.
Half of the viewers: You assume I intend to only watch it once!!
That one farmer on the far right corner is very mad at you.
Optimal time to get wheelbarrow is 17 farmers btw
"85% of civs have some sort of eco bonus". People can come up with statistics to prove anything. Forfty percent of all people know that. - classic 90s Simpsons Homer
I tried to carry with this strategy in a usual team game arena and got petarded and conqs in my base
If you just blindly do this in 3v3, 4v4 as pocket it'll probably work 2/3rds of the time in the 1100-1300 elo space. Players know how to get past walls here but are inconsistent about doing it. The other 1/3rd needs to identify and prepare for gimmicks, conqs/arambai/siege-towers/petards.
I personally like to build a 'free' interior secondary wall with my structures outside of castle-drop-arrow-fire to contain gimmick pushes and buy time to transition out of boom and into unit production
This build falls apart after castle age imo on 2v2 or 1v1 above 1200 as there is no 'pocket' and its age-of-castle drop into UU and you'll never be allowed to free boom. Still hopeful to see how ram buffs may shift that meta a little.
That's why I put houses on my wall. Petards, siege tower...
@@TK-ow3nl I don't like putting the structures on the wall since a castle drop will range them.
All I know is how to boom, dont know anything else :D I wish there was a competition who would reach 200 population IMP with at least 50% research done xd Anyway should you include your monks to boom, to pick up relics as soon as possible?
if you choose "time limit" or "score" on victory (settings of the match) + treaty lenght you could do it
You cant boom and go relics. Usually you have to delat your boom to build monastery, mo k and fight relics
good guy hera!
makes it look so easy
Is the 4th TC worth it? I rather make a monastery earlier for relic control.
LOL, anyone else sees Khosrau and gets HiddenCup 5 vibes? :D (Viper was Khosrau) :D
have you tried instead 25 pop + 2? I feel like a waste of all the work and resources for a house if it means just to add 1 pop when you do 24+2 (26).
so cool!
this is great, but only work in Arena how you do this if at minute 15 you have a huge army of archers and skrims pushing you out?
Can you make a video about mega booming on arena with Bulgarian? I know it's not a good strat at high level, but I would like to see the most efficient way of booming with 5 tc on arena.
Good video, but im missing some match videos from u hera, i need my dinner entertainment and i cant go on twitch since i have testicles!
GOOD GAME
I wish it worked like this. When I go pocket, my flanck is always getting castle dropped because he doesn't know how the arena works, I save him and then I am all exposed. He always halts for some reason his eco and he's never get back up.
When I go flanck, which is what I've been doing, I am really good at castle dropping except if I find a person on the opposite side like Hera, and when I'm asking for support, like pre-asking, I'm clearly saying this is the strategy from dark age, please support my castle, I'm receiving the response "lol bro I'm booming", which leads me to get obliterated by 1v2 and then hoping the boomer fights both of them until I get my eco up again, which is a stupid thing to do.
People play team games thinking only for themselves. They cannot think outside the box or really be team players. "This is what I ve learnt to do and this is what I'm doing"
Cool video and I'm tempted to get the game and see if I could execute this. But I feel like you're doing a million little things with muscle memory and I think a beginner would need to go through this video second by second.
Bruhh when you remove vils from wood and farms to build towns. Your vils lose collected res. Waste of res. Right?😮
no, they auto drop off when they make an eco building
Tenes que empezar a hacer videos hablando en español, querido!! Abrazo grande ✌️🙌
They should make insane ai for higher elo
ballistic it’s cool "pero" you don’t need that ... (17:42 / 29:26)
a little bit of Spanglish!!! nice :)
yes but if they CD you, and add their siege, trash and make a proper boom behind? :(
one less vil to build tc could give u heavyplow😂
0:33 11
What a boomer, next thing he's gonna teach us about how things were better back in the day...oh wait.
ok boomer
Am i a Member? 😂
How to die in 20min 11GG
I've tried to comment twice but they keep getting automatically removed 😭 I'm not sure what I'm typing wrong that YT doesn't like, I just wanted to explain the bug that made his gold vill only drop off 9 instead of 10 when he was trying to buy food
Is anyone gonna talk about that ai stone wall? Since when is that a thing?
yes very strange.
Ok, boomer.
Arena common player basic is practice with magyars 100 pop finished age 4 at 27 or less. Your video super slow.
His boom was good (100 vill at 26m with wb,hc) but eco balance for imp was off yeah - prob bc hes playing and talking to explain which slows things down
@ 1 mins different in arena is big different. Your flank already die and quit. Haha
@@VuLe-fv8cg It can be, but like I was saying this is a demonstration video showing you how to do it and he explains that it's not 100% optimal all the way through but the steps/order of things and process is correct - only some of the small details aren't 100% optimal but those details change depending on the civ.
Why you lagging so hard bro
First
*Trump watches this video*
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