When I was a student in the '90s there was a guy who would come to the campus once a month and yell at people passing by that they were going to hell and the girls would get "whore" yelled at them. I hear he still visits the campus. As a woman, perhaps he yelled "whore" at me. I never paid enough attention to him to know for sure. He can call me whatever he wants, I do not care because he is an asshole. See how that works? Regulating free speech as discussed in this video is dangerous and I would rather deal with a jerk calling me a name than have open discussion quashed.
The reason many hate free speech is that they may have to support their positions with intelligent conversation and facts. They have not carefully thought out and researched their positions and don't want others to know how lazy and stupid they are!
Krevin Grard Lol you obviously didnt understand what I meant. You say EVEN IF someone opposes you, you support their right to free speech. But you should rather say ESPECIALLY BECAUSE you disagree with me, you should have the right to do so. It doesnt take courage to endorse your own opinion to be stated by others. It takes courage to allow others to dismantle and discredit your speech, by speech.
I've always said it and stand by it. Even as a black man I will defend the right to free speech for the KKK even though I completely disagree with what they have to say. As long as you're not inciting violence or and immediate panic (yell fire in a theater) I will defend your right to speech.
Hear, hear. I always felt free speech as the crucible to create a stronger United States. It burns away the impurities of ignorance and instills a common language to all. So when the KKK or other hateful group use it, they show themselves for what they are and allows the decent people to react accordingly. Unfortunately, Political Correctness has provided a mask for these bigots to hide behind, thus allowing them to move about in the shadow. I would rather know who are the bigots than have to make assumptions that might be wrong. That way I can follow Dr. King's statement to '...judge a person by the content of their character...' instead of some arbitrary false standard that is purely subjective from person to person.
+systematic101 , Exactly, Free speech is not measured by those we agree with but moreover by those we have disagreement with. Fascism always tries to quell the debate in the public sphere. But that is what i am seeing more and more. I question what college kids are actually learning these days. not too long ago students fought for free speech and not the opposite is occurring more than this particular exception.
+systematic101 Fire, fire, fire, fire. Now you’ve heard it. Not shouted in a crowded theatre, admittedly, as I seem now to have shouted it in the Hogwarts dining hall. But the point is made. Everyone knows the fatuous verdict of the greatly over-praised Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, who, when asked for an actual example of when it would be proper to limit speech or define it as an action, gave that of shouting “fire” in a crowded theatre. It’s very often forgotten what he was doing in that case was sending to prison a group of Yiddish speaking socialists, whose literature was printed in a language most Americans couldn’t read, opposing Mr. Wilson’s participation in the First World War, and the dragging of the United States into that sanguinary conflict, which the Yiddish speaking socialists had fled from Russia to escape. In fact it could be just as plausible argued that the Yiddish speaking socialists who were jailed by the excellent and greatly over-praised Judge Oliver Wendell Holmes were the real fire fighters, were the ones shouting fire when there really was a fire in a very crowded theatre indeed. And who is to decide? Well, keep that question if you would - ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters, I hope I may say comrades and friends - before your minds. I exempt myself from the speaker’s kind offer of protection that was so generously proffered at the opening of this evening. Anyone who wants to say anything abusive about or to me is quite free to do so, and welcome in fact, at their own risk. -Cristopher Hitchens.
***** I find it funny that people will link, or refer to almost anything without any information of the actual story. I am an absolutist in freedom of speech, I don't find myself confident enough in someone else to dictate just how much my speech should be limited to save someone elses feelings.
Wake up sheeple! Even if i disagree with the speech. It needs to be heard. Every American needs to stand up for this basic human right. Enough is enough!
ANYONE is constitutionally allowed to say whatever they want to and express their opinion, no matter what. I will absolutely defend anyone's right to free speech, no matter how much I disagree with them. As long as they are not inciting violence they have the right to free speech.
+Jillian Adams Inciting violence is not hard to define. Ex: Pigs in a blanket fry them like bacon IS inciting violence. To encourage others to harm people physically is where you draw the line.
AUNTIE LORAX still free speech ine must attempt or actually do something. although if its a threat to the constitution lile islam or marxism that's a different story, again not just because islam ans marxism are both ideologies that incite violence.
I'm ashamed that the university I go to has a free speech zone. They don't enforce it if you violate it but it's still embarrassing and humiliating to see my university have such a pernicious policy
ChillNyeTheBroGuy 😂😂😂 they'll get sued if they enforce it. That tells me they know what they are doing is wrong, i.e. unconstitutional, so they won't enforce it on purpose.
Finally, students with common sense. What in the world is happening on campuses? Have they lost their minds? Free speech is a right no one has a right to restrict. I am so proud of you few that are fighting!
Free speech is by far the most important right followed by the right to arm yourself. Weird how the founding fathers made the 1st and 2nd amendments these two things in that order. It's like they understood the danger of not having them.
James White That's a good point. You've swayed me to placing the 1st and 2nd on level ground. Without the 1st people would not able to rally the masses. Without the 2nd a rallied people are powerless to defend themselves.
Gotta say. I live in a country where speech is free but guns are banned. I'm willing to bet that we, the unarmed citizens of my safe and peaceful country exert more influence on and are subject to far less police state tyranny from our government than you are in your heavily armed yet crushingly afraid and repressed Republic.
+mydogiscalledoscar I would say our government fears the people, not the other way around. Their attempts through media, social media, schools and colleges to prevent free speech is due to their desire to silence the opposition, who is anyone defending the Constitution, our Rights, or opposed to Leftist ideology. In the last seven years under a Democratic Socialist President they have divided the country racially and politically, and use the media to attack and discredit Caucasians, Christians and Conservatives as racists, bigots and domestic terrorists.
+systematic101 There are plenty of countries which don't have a law where you can arm yourself and they're still managing. Even if I'm pro guns, you can't refute the fact that the more guns in circulation, the higher the chance there is of being gun related crimes/deaths. Strong regulation is obviously a requirement to lower these numbers, because I doubt that countries that already have that law, such as the US, would be very unwilling to surrender it. The most important law would be free speech, the second I would say is freedom of assembly. Without these two it would be very hard to push for change.
Awesome! So proud of you guys! So ashamed of the general public who are so willfully blind! Accepting tyranny as the norm is just mind bending for me! You guys set a very important precedence! Bravo!
I'm against all bigotry in principle. HOWEVER, free speech/expression is{or should be} AN ABSOLUTE HUMAN RIGHT. Even bigots should be allowed this right. Hate speech should NOT be a CRIME. Should it be challenged, ostrasized? Sure. But not ILLEGAL. If you do not believe in free speech/expression for those views you find incorrect, offensive, or even abhorent, then you do not believe in free speech/expression AT ALL! As Evelyn Beatrice Hall said in her book "The friends of Voltaire"{a quote often mis-attributed to Voltaire himself, though it sums up nicely what his views on free speech/expression were}: ""I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". Censorship is the enemy of freedom and justice, and does more harm than good.
+Will Baker no, there should be no freedom of speech. I hate hate speech. If anyone says something bad about my religion, race, football team, family, movie, politics etc, they should be jailed. These things are very sensitive to me.
***** you are contradicting again. Seriously get your shit together. Here you claim that free speech is a stupid idea. " Am I stupid enough to brag in front of a group of football hooligans? No" Stupid people use free speech to voice their opinions. Yes you are fucking happy that your team won, but you don't get to voice that opinion or happiness to the losing team. Even you admit that you are not stupid enough to use free speech. then you do a 360 flip and say you can criticize idea. What if those ideas and values are very important to those people. And when you disrespect those ideas and values by criticizing them, what do you think the people who stand behind them will do? Just let your mouth run? You need to learn to shut the fuck up, dont mess with other peoples values, beliefs and idea. Here is a solution for you, how about you use free speech on yourself and not on others.
balthzar16 he is a troll. He claim to believe in freedom of speech, but he wont use it because he will have his shit knocked out when he uses that right to offend me. Come to my neighbourhood and talk shit under your freedom of speech, lets see how well your freedom of speech protects you.
I love seeing this fundamental right being stood up for and protected at places of higher learning. We badly need to do the same with our government bodies from the local to the national level. Keep up the good work FIRE!
"Free Speech Zone" is the most comically Orwellian concept I've heard for a long time. Not to be hyperbolic. It's just that it takes so much cognitive dissonance to have it make *any* sense in the United States. Designating any area one in which people can express themselves obviously implies they are *not* free to express themselves elsewhere. Thus they aren't free. It's a token, and anyone could see that. I don't believe any honest person accepts this concept as valid in your country.
I'm just learning about this, 4 years after the video was posted. I'm amazed. I thought Americans had the right to free speech anywhere in the country. This campus "free speech zone" phenomenon is bizarre and I'm glad the student fought the uniersity and won his case. Hurrah for the judge who had common sense and an understanding of the first amendment.
To think I just live up the road from UC. I so ashamed, now questioning whether to ever attend the University of Cincinnati. Go to Liberty University they understand what freedom really is.
As an independent researcher who has traveled extensively visiting PUBLIC libraries on the campuses of State Universities; I have been subject to constant obstruction, Threats of arrest, & defamation. None of which were justified.
+Dustin Vinas All the Feminist/SJW and BLM (aka Cultural Marxists) student groups in that University, plus the lecturers that run them from the shadows. Funny how all these "equality" groups are the one against free speech and constitutional rights, it's almost like they want a class system where they are at the top, but it's about human rights, right ?
Perhaps one reason why so many Americans are complacent or even angered by the defense of free speech is that we have collectively lost our appreciation of "arguing well." You need only glance at the nearest social media outlet or comments section to see examples. We cease to argue with what our opponent is actually saying, and instead argue with a straw-man concoction of our opponent which we've created in our own heads. We think if our opponent argues with us on one point, they are against us in all. We allow our hurt feelings that someone has disagreed compromise fair reasoning, good listening skills, and above all, basic manners. An easy example--perhaps you question the reliability of rape statistics on campus? That is interpreted as you defending rape. That you are contributing to hate speech just because you don't think some numbers don't add up correctly. Why? Bad reasoning. Sensorship becomes easier than the hard work of checking your own anger and actually listening.
I don't care if you are a liberal or conservative, you absolutely have the right to free speech. I am so glad these students had the integrity and initiative to take this to court. God bless em.
This is why Americans need to stay diligent. Just because this is America, does not mean you won't lose your freedoms tomorrow. We must stay alert and attuned to what is going on all the time. Freedom has been fought for and people have died - and then complacency comes along and all can be for naught overnight before you know about it.
Sadly colleges and universities limit what you can do or say and try to force their own ideas on you while they are at it. I am really happy these two made a difference and spoke out against the crowd and won their rights back.
As they say "Don't mess with the young and educated" Freedom of speech is not only embedded in US Constitution 1st Amend. but also the cornerstone of Human Rights.
I’m struggling with something kinda the same at the moment. Accusations were made against me saying that I made sexist and racist comments ( several are flat out lies and twisted comments) and I was given no chance to defend those accusations due to the fact they refused to inform me of those statements. There was no due process and according to the school policy, they didn’t take proper steps before bullying and forcing me to sign me resignation under dress. This took place at the Harrisburg Area Community College Police Academy. The one place that preaches justice and rights of all people. They preach how following department policy is a must but they don’t hold their self to the same standards. I was discriminated against by my peers and by the faculty. This has not only destroyed my self-esteem butt has ruined everything that I have been working so hard for including my reputation and my career. I have served my country in the United States Army for the past nine years and I have swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and to defend all peoples rights including my own. In order for justice to be served fairly, corruption must be removed! I will fight and I will stand tall against all of my enemies foreign or domestic because no weapon formed against me shall prosper.
Here in Colorado, every public institution is a free speech zone (the whole campus). Students can sue if our free speech is infringed, and our court fees will be covered by the state in that case.
I agree. As a radical and a leftist, it disgusts me, the violent action taken against Conservatives. Protest the event by all means, boycott etc, but don't smash shit up and riot over a fucking speaker
I can imagine them trying this in France. In less than a week the entire country would be in the streets. The institution trying this would risk being set on fire. I'm always shocked at how obedient and calm Americans are.
If "we're a country of laws, not men", why did it take the ruling of one man, a judge, to allow these students their constitutional (lawful) right to free speech?
What I want to know is why there are free speech "zones" in the first place. Last time I checked this was the United States of America. People should be able to exercise free speech on every square inch of the nation.
I don't even understand how a "free speech zone" even becomes a thing. I'm pretty sure America outside of institutions that care for minors, such as middle schools, is a free speech zone. I can understand not being okay with writing stuff on campus, as that could be vandalism, but not being allowed to speak and hand out fliers? What the hell?
thats when you go in every day with a new request before every 14 day. that way its only the first 14 days of that school they can make problems for the group.
I remember the free speech zone at cincinnati being put in place for a group of non students that would come on campus and yell slurs at people passing by at for a week or so every year. They were apparently trying to provoke a physical confrontation in an effort to sue the university. It made sense at the time because they werent students and were being intentionally disruptive. Using the same are for students passing out fliers seems pretty strange .
The whole country should be a "free speech zone."
yep
+Sean Williams Truth, but these liberal universities don't practice this. Liberals in general don't. AHH! Differing opinion backed with facts AAHHH!!!
the whole world should;
how free? can i insult you?
When I was a student in the '90s there was a guy who would come to the campus once a month and yell at people passing by that they were going to hell and the girls would get "whore" yelled at them. I hear he still visits the campus. As a woman, perhaps he yelled "whore" at me. I never paid enough attention to him to know for sure. He can call me whatever he wants, I do not care because he is an asshole. See how that works? Regulating free speech as discussed in this video is dangerous and I would rather deal with a jerk calling me a name than have open discussion quashed.
I support all free speech even if it is the opposite of what i believe in.
that's great
The reason many hate free speech is that they may have to support their positions with intelligent conversation and facts. They have not carefully thought out and researched their positions and don't want others to know how lazy and stupid they are!
Krevin Grard No it should be ESPECIALLY if it is the opposite!!
WatermelonDrea leave America if you don't believe in freedom.
Krevin Grard
Lol you obviously didnt understand what I meant.
You say EVEN IF someone opposes you, you support their right to free speech.
But you should rather say ESPECIALLY BECAUSE you disagree with me, you should have the right to do so.
It doesnt take courage to endorse your own opinion to be stated by others.
It takes courage to allow others to dismantle and discredit your speech, by speech.
"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
-Evelyn Beatrice Hall
+Uchilha Madara, Voltaire is where that quote comes from originally. If memory serves.
I believe there's a misconception, people believe it's from voltaire but voltaire took it from evelyn beatrice hall
There does seem to be some confusion, over who gets the attribution. From what little I just found out, it appears I'm wrong and you have it right.
Uchiha Madara That would have been difficult as Voltaire died 90 years before Hall was born.
Sandy A Neck me.
I've always said it and stand by it. Even as a black man I will defend the right to free speech for the KKK even though I completely disagree with what they have to say. As long as you're not inciting violence or and immediate panic (yell fire in a theater) I will defend your right to speech.
Hear, hear. I always felt free speech as the crucible to create a stronger United States. It burns away the impurities of ignorance and instills a common language to all. So when the KKK or other hateful group use it, they show themselves for what they are and allows the decent people to react accordingly. Unfortunately, Political Correctness has provided a mask for these bigots to hide behind, thus allowing them to move about in the shadow. I would rather know who are the bigots than have to make assumptions that might be wrong. That way I can follow Dr. King's statement to '...judge a person by the content of their character...' instead of some arbitrary false standard that is purely subjective from person to person.
+systematic101 , Exactly, Free speech is not measured by those we agree with but moreover by those we have disagreement with. Fascism always tries to quell the debate in the public sphere. But that is what i am seeing more and more. I question what college kids are actually learning these days. not too long ago students fought for free speech and not the opposite is occurring more than this particular exception.
as will I, ur a good man
+systematic101 Fire, fire, fire, fire. Now you’ve heard it. Not shouted in a crowded theatre, admittedly, as I seem now to have shouted it in the Hogwarts dining hall. But the point is made. Everyone knows the fatuous verdict of the greatly over-praised Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, who, when asked for an actual example of when it would be proper to limit speech or define it as an action, gave that of shouting “fire” in a crowded theatre.
It’s very often forgotten what he was doing in that case was sending to prison a group of Yiddish speaking socialists, whose literature was printed in a language most Americans couldn’t read, opposing Mr. Wilson’s participation in the First World War, and the dragging of the United States into that sanguinary conflict, which the Yiddish speaking socialists had fled from Russia to escape. In fact it could be just as plausible argued that the Yiddish speaking socialists who were jailed by the excellent and greatly over-praised Judge Oliver Wendell Holmes were the real fire fighters, were the ones shouting fire when there really was a fire in a very crowded theatre indeed.
And who is to decide? Well, keep that question if you would - ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters, I hope I may say comrades and friends - before your minds.
I exempt myself from the speaker’s kind offer of protection that was so generously proffered at the opening of this evening. Anyone who wants to say anything abusive about or to me is quite free to do so, and welcome in fact, at their own risk.
-Cristopher Hitchens.
***** I find it funny that people will link, or refer to almost anything without any information of the actual story. I am an absolutist in freedom of speech, I don't find myself confident enough in someone else to dictate just how much my speech should be limited to save someone elses feelings.
Wake up sheeple! Even if i disagree with the speech. It needs to be heard. Every American needs to stand up for this basic human right. Enough is enough!
+Richard Lowery ' "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - Evelyn Beatrice Hall'
if students don't want the flyer they can just say no and continue walking
ANYONE is constitutionally allowed to say whatever they want to and express their opinion, no matter what. I will absolutely defend anyone's right to free speech, no matter how much I disagree with them. As long as they are not inciting violence they have the right to free speech.
+Jillian Adams Inciting violence is not hard to define. Ex: Pigs in a blanket fry them like bacon IS inciting violence. To encourage others to harm people physically is where you draw the line.
AUNTIE LORAX still free speech ine must attempt or actually do something. although if its a threat to the constitution lile islam or marxism that's a different story, again not just because islam ans marxism are both ideologies that incite violence.
You’re wrong!!!
Free speech zones in a college? WTF! Props to these guys standing up against stupidity.
Free Speech -Zones- Quarantines
'free speech zone' implies that free speech is a privilege, not a right.
Thank you for standing up for the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights and every God-fearing Americans right to their beliefs and speech your heroes
I congratulate this students, and encourage all alert students to do the same. It's time to fight for our right!
Kudos to these students for fighting for free speech.
Either people defend their freedoms or they will lose them, possibly forever.
Good work, guys.
I'm ashamed that the university I go to has a free speech zone. They don't enforce it if you violate it but it's still embarrassing and humiliating to see my university have such a pernicious policy
ChillNyeTheBroGuy 😂😂😂 they'll get sued if they enforce it. That tells me they know what they are doing is wrong, i.e. unconstitutional, so they won't enforce it on purpose.
The campus should also have a "human rights zone" in which it is forbidden to kill others. XD
Finally, students with common sense. What in the world is happening on campuses? Have they lost their minds? Free speech is a right no one has a right to restrict. I am so proud of you few that are fighting!
That actually brought tears to my eyes. As a Vet... I applaud that man.
5:28 That list of why a beer is better than a woman is priceless.
+Palace Of Wisdom loololololololololololololololololololololololololololol
+Palace Of Wisdom It needs to be a t-shirt.
and it was i think
Priceless? It cost me $17...but I wear it any time my wife pulls some stupid shit.
Palace Of Wisdom: That list is Vile and Disgusting!!! It is also GREAT!!! I LOVED it!!! :-D
How the hell can the public be arrested for trespassing on public property? We the people own it!
Love you guys for doing this. Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart. KEEP FREE SPEACH ALIVE!
Free speech is by far the most important right followed by the right to arm yourself. Weird how the founding fathers made the 1st and 2nd amendments these two things in that order. It's like they understood the danger of not having them.
+systematic101 Without the 2nd, EVERYONE will lose the rest. ! SEMPER FI, MY OATH ONLY EXPIRES WHEN I DO !
James White That's a good point. You've swayed me to placing the 1st and 2nd on level ground. Without the 1st people would not able to rally the masses. Without the 2nd a rallied people are powerless to defend themselves.
Gotta say. I live in a country where speech is free but guns are banned.
I'm willing to bet that we, the unarmed citizens of my safe and peaceful country exert more influence on and are subject to far less police state tyranny from our government than you are in your heavily armed yet crushingly afraid and repressed Republic.
+mydogiscalledoscar I would say our government fears the people, not the other way around. Their attempts through media, social media, schools and colleges to prevent free speech is due to their desire to silence the opposition, who is anyone defending the Constitution, our Rights, or opposed to Leftist ideology. In the last seven years under a Democratic Socialist President they have divided the country racially and politically, and use the media to attack and discredit Caucasians, Christians and Conservatives as racists, bigots and domestic terrorists.
+systematic101 There are plenty of countries which don't have a law where you can arm yourself and they're still managing.
Even if I'm pro guns, you can't refute the fact that the more guns in circulation, the higher the chance there is of being gun related crimes/deaths.
Strong regulation is obviously a requirement to lower these numbers, because I doubt that countries that already have that law, such as the US, would be very unwilling to surrender it.
The most important law would be free speech, the second I would say is freedom of assembly. Without these two it would be very hard to push for change.
this is an example on whats happening today on donald trump, they are limiting his free speech
Fantastic! More power to these fearless defenders of liberty. KUDOS.
Free speech zones? Wtf is happening to this country?
It is proactive actions like these that will help correct the absurd and dangerous state of affairs witnessed on campuses across the US.
Heroes! They should have been awarded medals.
"Laughably unconstitutional" is right. That's the only apt description.
These students are going places! Keep up the good fight!
Awesome! So proud of you guys! So ashamed of the general public who are so willfully blind! Accepting tyranny as the norm is just mind bending for me! You guys set a very important precedence! Bravo!
I'm against all bigotry in principle. HOWEVER, free speech/expression is{or should be} AN ABSOLUTE HUMAN RIGHT. Even bigots should be allowed this right.
Hate speech should NOT be a CRIME. Should it be challenged, ostrasized? Sure. But not ILLEGAL. If you do not believe in free speech/expression for those views you find incorrect, offensive, or even abhorent, then you do not believe in free speech/expression AT ALL!
As Evelyn Beatrice Hall said in her book "The friends of Voltaire"{a quote often mis-attributed to Voltaire himself, though it sums up nicely what his views on free speech/expression were}:
""I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
Censorship is the enemy of freedom and justice, and does more harm than good.
+Will Baker no, there should be no freedom of speech. I hate hate speech. If anyone says something bad about my religion, race, football team, family, movie, politics etc, they should be jailed. These things are very sensitive to me.
***** you cant jail me, you are spreading hate. I cant take this, i wish i could call police to arrest you. You fucking troll.
***** you are contradicting again. Seriously get your shit together.
Here you claim that free speech is a stupid idea.
" Am I stupid enough to brag in front of a group of football hooligans? No"
Stupid people use free speech to voice their opinions. Yes you are fucking happy that your team won, but you don't get to voice that opinion or happiness to the losing team. Even you admit that you are not stupid enough to use free speech.
then you do a 360 flip and say you can criticize idea.
What if those ideas and values are very important to those people. And when you disrespect those ideas and values by criticizing them, what do you think the people who stand behind them will do?
Just let your mouth run? You need to learn to shut the fuck up, dont mess with other peoples values, beliefs and idea.
Here is a solution for you, how about you use free speech on yourself and not on others.
+InfiniteSkeptic 60
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Either you are a troll, trolling a troll, or you are trolling yourself with a second account.
balthzar16 he is a troll. He claim to believe in freedom of speech, but he wont use it because he will have his shit knocked out when he uses that right to offend me.
Come to my neighbourhood and talk shit under your freedom of speech, lets see how well your freedom of speech protects you.
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. "
I love seeing this fundamental right being stood up for and protected at places of higher learning. We badly need to do the same with our government bodies from the local to the national level. Keep up the good work FIRE!
These students should be recognized as national heroes!!! Let Freedom Ring!!!
More people need to stand up like this....Awesome way to go guys :)
"Free Speech Zone" is the most comically Orwellian concept I've heard for a long time.
Not to be hyperbolic. It's just that it takes so much cognitive dissonance to have it make *any* sense in the United States.
Designating any area one in which people can express themselves obviously implies they are *not* free to express themselves elsewhere. Thus they aren't free.
It's a token, and anyone could see that. I don't believe any honest person accepts this concept as valid in your country.
Bravo gentlemen.
Good for those students!
Free speech zones are anathema to a free society! I love FIRE for standing up for this principle!
Trespassing at their own school?! WTF?!
I haven't watch this channel for a while because they had comments disabled, which i thought was crazy ... glad to see they're back
I'm just learning about this, 4 years after the video was posted. I'm amazed. I thought Americans had the right to free speech anywhere in the country. This campus "free speech zone" phenomenon is bizarre and I'm glad the student fought the uniersity and won his case. Hurrah for the judge who had common sense and an understanding of the first amendment.
Nice job guys, definitely an inspiration ... I hope you guys can wake up some of the sleeping masses at those colleges!!
I thought the whole country was a Free Speech Zone.
To think I just live up the road from UC. I so ashamed, now questioning whether to ever attend the University of Cincinnati. Go to Liberty University they understand what freedom really is.
Good on you guys. You fought and won. Gutsy . Your little part of the world is now a better place.
As an independent researcher who has traveled extensively visiting PUBLIC libraries on the campuses of State Universities; I have been subject to constant obstruction, Threats of arrest, & defamation. None of which were justified.
Can't wait to write my free speech essay for The Fire
Its great to see people fighting back. Fight for your rights people
I want to know who would give this video a thumbs down
+Dustin Vinas The college
+Dustin Vinas All the Feminist/SJW and BLM (aka Cultural Marxists) student groups in that University, plus the lecturers that run them from the shadows. Funny how all these "equality" groups are the one against free speech and constitutional rights, it's almost like they want a class system where they are at the top, but it's about human rights, right ?
+Dustin Vinas All liberals and SJWs
+Dustin Vinas People who were put off by the guy's teeth.
Stalin.
College and education ? Really great job young man!
Perhaps one reason why so many Americans are complacent or even angered by the defense of free speech is that we have collectively lost our appreciation of "arguing well." You need only glance at the nearest social media outlet or comments section to see examples.
We cease to argue with what our opponent is actually saying, and instead argue with a straw-man concoction of our opponent which we've created in our own heads. We think if our opponent argues with us on one point, they are against us in all. We allow our hurt feelings that someone has disagreed compromise fair reasoning, good listening skills, and above all, basic manners. An easy example--perhaps you question the reliability of rape statistics on campus? That is interpreted as you defending rape. That you are contributing to hate speech just because you don't think some numbers don't add up correctly. Why? Bad reasoning. Sensorship becomes easier than the hard work of checking your own anger and actually listening.
*Censorship
Help from someone who enjoys a good debate and writing. :D
actually i adore debating and arguing ( not getting into fights or anything ) noting more healthy for the mind and opinions than a good debate .
I 100% agreee
When she said that they turned to fire I can't be the only one here who pictured them burning down the school...
Well, if the campus insisted on declaring itself an enemy of the US Constitution... how do you kill a university? Burning it down would be one way.
I don't care if you are a liberal or conservative, you absolutely have the right to free speech. I am so glad these students had the integrity and initiative to take this to court. God bless em.
I was so happy when they won the case
This is why Americans need to stay diligent. Just because this is America, does not mean you won't lose your freedoms tomorrow. We must stay alert and attuned to what is going on all the time. Freedom has been fought for and people have died - and then complacency comes along and all can be for naught overnight before you know about it.
Sadly colleges and universities limit what you can do or say and try to force their own ideas on you while they are at it. I am really happy these two made a difference and spoke out against the crowd and won their rights back.
Very brave kids! Kuddos to them. This is unbelievable.
This is awesome, good for that student and FIRE
It should have never gone to court in the first place
great video - thanks for all FIRE does
Top geezer, don't join their side.
As they say "Don't mess with the young and educated"
Freedom of speech is not only embedded in US Constitution 1st Amend. but also the cornerstone of Human Rights.
I’m struggling with something kinda the same at the moment. Accusations were made against me saying that I made sexist and racist comments ( several are flat out lies and twisted comments) and I was given no chance to defend those accusations due to the fact they refused to inform me of those statements. There was no due process and according to the school policy, they didn’t take proper steps before bullying and forcing me to sign me resignation under dress. This took place at the Harrisburg Area Community College Police Academy. The one place that preaches justice and rights of all people. They preach how following department policy is a must but they don’t hold their self to the same standards. I was discriminated against by my peers and by the faculty. This has not only destroyed my self-esteem butt has ruined everything that I have been working so hard for including my reputation and my career. I have served my country in the United States Army for the past nine years and I have swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and to defend all peoples rights including my own. In order for justice to be served fairly, corruption must be removed! I will fight and I will stand tall against all of my enemies foreign or domestic because no weapon formed against me shall prosper.
how is it legal to set up areas where its legal to do free speech when you should be able to do it where ever. not forced to stand at a specific spot.
Here in Colorado, every public institution is a free speech zone (the whole campus). Students can sue if our free speech is infringed, and our court fees will be covered by the state in that case.
I am so glad I decided not to go to UC now. That would have been a huge mistake...
This literally made my day!
EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD STAND UP FOR FREE SPEECH. It's NOT a privilege, it is a basic human RIGHT.
I agree. As a radical and a leftist, it disgusts me, the violent action taken against Conservatives. Protest the event by all means, boycott etc, but don't smash shit up and riot over a fucking speaker
they should arrest whole university's for denying students a constitutional right.
What next? A Right To Keep And Bear Arms Zone? A Life, Liberty And The Pursuit Of Happiness zone?
These young people give me hope.
if there's no freedom of speech how are we supposed to know who who are the ones to ignore
"I disagree with everything opinion you have just said, but I will fight to the death for you to have that opinion" America needs to regain it's balls
Where is that quote from?
@@XIIIkatanas liberals said it but now leftists took over
I thought universities were supposed to promote freedom of thought...
I hope these two young men go on to get top jobs. They are the sort of leaders society needs.
I feel like the leaders of that college should not be be allowed to teach any of these students
I can imagine them trying this in France. In less than a week the entire country would be in the streets. The institution trying this would risk being set on fire. I'm always shocked at how obedient and calm Americans are.
If "we're a country of laws, not men", why did it take the ruling of one man, a judge, to allow these students their constitutional (lawful) right to free speech?
This is awesome.
What I want to know is why there are free speech "zones" in the first place. Last time I checked this was the United States of America. People should be able to exercise free speech on every square inch of the nation.
That's awesome
Good.
Awesome!! Great video.
important quote
"people need to defend free speech as a PRINCIPLE, not just as a political tactic [when it helps your particular cause]"
This is awesome..
One of the oddest sentences I have ever heard: "NOW the entire campus is open to free speech".
I don't even understand how a "free speech zone" even becomes a thing. I'm pretty sure America outside of institutions that care for minors, such as middle schools, is a free speech zone. I can understand not being okay with writing stuff on campus, as that could be vandalism, but not being allowed to speak and hand out fliers? What the hell?
...this is sad to see.
We must change with the times: let us learn to live without free speech.
Never. Long live liberty.
Amazing! Keep going!
read George Orwell's book 1984.
This video needs to be passed on to others.
And not one f*ck is given.
thats when you go in every day with a new request before every 14 day. that way its only the first 14 days of that school they can make problems for the group.
Hand out black panther or Antifa or Socialist or Communist party flyers all over campus, no problem.....
I remember the free speech zone at cincinnati being put in place for a group of non students that would come on campus and yell slurs at people passing by at for a week or so every year. They were apparently trying to provoke a physical confrontation in an effort to sue the university. It made sense at the time because they werent students and were being intentionally disruptive. Using the same are for students passing out fliers seems pretty strange .
Any restriction on freedom of speech is a violation of my first amendment rights
Wouldn't you have to go to the free speech zone to say anything…?
People will be judged by Yah on what you say, even your thoughts and deeds. Words have power to heal or kill. You choose.