Train Simulator 2019 - Route Learning: London Liverpool Street to Norwich (MK3 DVT/Class 90)

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  • In this episode of the route learning series, we take an Abellio Greater Anglia Class 90 set with the locomotive on the rear between London Liverpool Street and Norwich. This video uses the original GEML London to Ipswich route, along with the freeware extension to Norwich available on Steam Workshop. We follow the real life timetable of train 1P04, the 06:25 departure from Liverpool Street, calling at Stratford, Chelmsford, Witham, Colchester, Manningtree, Ipswich, Stowmarket, Diss, and Norwich along the way.
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  • @pauldavis9567
    @pauldavis9567 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Like to see this back in the 70s / early 80s with a 47 , old signalling etc

  • @DEFarnes
    @DEFarnes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The lower frame rate is also lifelike for the London to Norwich service

  • @ste2577
    @ste2577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great to see you back Peter! Keep up the good work

  • @JohnRodgers7390
    @JohnRodgers7390 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What a fantastic way to show off this full route, putting this on my list to not only get the extension but also to get the loco's to run on it also. Thanks again for a great video.

  • @jackharrison6771
    @jackharrison6771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another excellent video and thanks for posting and your work in producing these videos.

  • @iaspex1289
    @iaspex1289 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving these frequent uploads!

  • @HSTPaul
    @HSTPaul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who misses these sets on the line in real life I had to go back and view this, excellent video :)

  • @silta863
    @silta863 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate your videos. Thanks for sharing

  • @uhegbu
    @uhegbu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes, the class 86 use to run on the Great Eastern main line in Anglia Railways/ONE services days of the 1990s/early-mid 2000s, so did the 170 modern units for a period of time which later used the London-Lowestoft services, again for a short period.

  • @Bullmannumber4
    @Bullmannumber4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The girder overbridge at 9:37 carries the East London line with Shoreditch High Street station just to the left of the bridge itself.

  • @freyaj03
    @freyaj03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The "jerk" when pulling away is quite common with the class 90s

  • @rogercrick9813
    @rogercrick9813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Another splendid video, Peter; thank you.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many thanks for your comment Roger, as always your input is appreciated. :)

    • @rohangibson8148
      @rohangibson8148 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PTGRail where do you find he reskin for the class 90 to get the actual branding 'Greater Anglia'as I bought the class 90 on steam and I have the livery but not brand name

  • @samrogers7896
    @samrogers7896 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video, the favourite thing about this train I like is the horn. =)

  • @blakeiok
    @blakeiok 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these Train Simulator Videos please keep making more vids on Train Simulator

  • @GBRf66715_
    @GBRf66715_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video!

  • @317Dan
    @317Dan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow this must be the first ever full run I've seen of this route without the game crashing! Great video again Pete :)

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve never managed to drive this route without it crashing before, it was awesome to be able to drive this entire journey in one go! Before 64-bit came along, I couldn’t even get as far as Shenfield before getting a crash dump, even after turning the settings down.

    • @317Dan
      @317Dan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I only ever got as far as Harold Wood, and Diss in the opposite direction (with settings turned down as well)

  • @trainsimproductions_
    @trainsimproductions_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome video! So professional and well-done and informative, you produce the very best!! Please keep it up! If you haven’t done so already, then please could you do a route learning from London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour in a class 444?!

  • @michaelgardiner520
    @michaelgardiner520 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice to see a train going through diss and gissing towards norwich

  • @harrischalk
    @harrischalk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very professional train driver :) keep at it. ( You would be a great driver )

  • @funnygallie7863
    @funnygallie7863 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done

  • @ridefast0
    @ridefast0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice logical commentary, thank you.

  • @lesliegprice6652
    @lesliegprice6652 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video, about the Neutral Sections, as Adam said it is probably because this was the first section of UK railways to be fully upgraded to 25Kv from 1500v DC as it was originally this is Liverpool Street to Shenfield and Southend so this was based on the DC layout,which being DC ,Direct Current had to have short sections with frequent Substations, the Fenchurch Street to Shoeburyness had the same history and upgrade.....after this the next Electrification project was the West Coast line initially from Euston to Crewe which of course was built from scratch and was able to have long sections and wider spaced substations

  • @uhegbu
    @uhegbu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The girder bridge you mention I believe carries the London Overground from as far as say Highbury & Islington, Willesden Junction, Clapham Junction and Richmond. Also to New Cross and West Croydon.

  • @davidgarratt5518
    @davidgarratt5518 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, the crossovers north of Stowmarket are called cow green and the so called industrial tanks are actually Tivetshall Maltings. I was a patrolman for many years on this route. Look forward to another video

  • @xddddd4220
    @xddddd4220 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Pete! I do believe there are decorated versions of the Southend and Southminster branches. I've seen Alan Thomson drive on them. A potential idea for the future maybe...

  • @rwm2986
    @rwm2986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A great video, thank you, I lived in Norwich in the 80s and 90s and travelled on this line many many times. It is interesting that the configuration of locomotive at the 'Up' (and first class) end, first introduced with the Class 86/DBSO combination in the late 80s, has been retained with the Class 90/Class 82 combination while the ECML has always had the locomotive at the 'Down' (and standard class) end with the Class 91/Class 82 combination.

    • @babylon218
      @babylon218 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The reason is that Greater Anglia's TMD for the 90s is at Norwich Crown Point, so it's easier to facilitate loco changes.

    • @archie4686
      @archie4686 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      nice jops

  • @TheWestAnglian
    @TheWestAnglian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone’s probably replied about the close neutral sections but I want to add my two cents
    Basically due to the amount of diverging routes out of Liverpool Street these sections need their own power and the substations around the London area are divided for each section. On the suburban lines power is fed between Liverpool Street and hackney downs before going to another supply and bow junction is split up between gas factory junction (another neutral section would be at the other end on the LTS) and then around manor park the neutral section is for the link to barking via woodgrange park where the power comes from the LTS substations. That’s the basic explanation of how there are more neutral sections around the London area

  • @AndyEinstman
    @AndyEinstman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Happy Thursday
    Greetings from the United States

  • @anzarezsaka
    @anzarezsaka 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Full GEML.. Nice video btw.

    • @ZariDim3012
      @ZariDim3012 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      AYE its you! from SCR

    • @anzarezsaka
      @anzarezsaka 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bullets Plays Who are you?

    • @anzarezsaka
      @anzarezsaka 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bullets Plays Who are you?

    • @ZariDim3012
      @ZariDim3012 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anzarezsaka [SG] Zari_Dim!

    • @anzarezsaka
      @anzarezsaka 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bullets Plays Oh... Hey Zari.

  • @uhegbu
    @uhegbu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been on this route as I said previously in 2015 and also 2005. Yes, 115 miles between London Liverpool Street and Norwich. The midway point is around the Manningtree/Ipswich area.

  • @Gideonsmythe
    @Gideonsmythe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Superb to see a good drive on my commuter line. Hopefully there will be a GA Stadler Flirt in TS one day.

    • @damianc.0.681
      @damianc.0.681 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your dream is coming true. It’s happening this year

  • @MattThornton87
    @MattThornton87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great graphics. Diss Station looks identical

  • @jordanstrains3139
    @jordanstrains3139 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish this was on train sim world 4 that be awesome drive from Liverpool Street to Norwich

  • @calumj1713
    @calumj1713 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice! This is the train I get to London from Colchester.

  • @CycloneGU
    @CycloneGU 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heard the comment about wanting to see all the branches in Train Simulator.
    Look up the Crouch Valley Line on UKTS. It started with the southern branch to Southminister (version 1, out about 2009 or 2010), then extanded to include the branch to Southend Victoria (2011), and the latest and presumably final version is from January of 2014 including the ENTIRE GEML as far as Ipswich. i do not know whether he actually connected his route to it, but given he also has the Braintree extension and even added the Sudbury extension (with one of the scenarios there, a ghost train I believe), he might have done the entire route on his own at the same time as DTG did. Therefore, it's its own route, and I'm shocked it's not well known.
    ATS even has a track patch for it, hence my learning of it. The Crouch Valley Line. Check it out if you're interested. The branch just before Ipswich is not explored, unfortunately, and I do not believe he went past Ipswich.

  • @188basstrom
    @188basstrom 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Used to live in Chelmsford getting off here for a pint in the Railway Tavern

  • @buxtonarmy2489
    @buxtonarmy2489 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have done this Route so many times! 🤣 (in reAl life)

  • @Bullmannumber4
    @Bullmannumber4 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The girder over bridge at 17:46 carries the section of the GOBLIN line between Wanstead Park and Woodgrange Park.

    • @uhegbu
      @uhegbu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, you are right as well. I think that is the former Bishopsgate station, just outside Liverpool Street station. An incident took place around the area some years back and passengers had to walk on the tracks to Liverpool Street.

  • @cnics
    @cnics 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    After the signal at danger at the end of the platform at Stowmarket you failed to assume the following signal was also red.

  • @jackburrows7795
    @jackburrows7795 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can tell u that Witham has been done very realistically
    There is bridge before the platform and over it
    Even the vending machine on the right is in the correct place
    As well as the line of housing on the left and the factory thing on the right behind the car park

  • @AdamWebb1982
    @AdamWebb1982 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i assume the neutral sections are close together because it used to be a 6.25 kV/1,500Volt DC line, before being converted to 25kV AC. Don't know if that's the actual reasoning though.

    • @rwm2986
      @rwm2986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had the same thought I think it was one the first, if not the first, lines to receive overhead electrification (but not all the way to Norwich).

  • @Bullmannumber4
    @Bullmannumber4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The run starts at 7:20 after the cab set up 😁

  • @xinotron662
    @xinotron662 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where did you get the Reskin from? (Class 90 + DVT)

  • @gamerboy3537
    @gamerboy3537 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello PTGRail.

  • @archie4686
    @archie4686 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    good

  • @universaltrainsstudio8534
    @universaltrainsstudio8534 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you do a dusk time journey return from London Liverpool Street to Braintree please? In a class 321?

  • @Tomcat_814
    @Tomcat_814 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    RIP Greater Anglia Class 90s

  • @Bullmannumber4
    @Bullmannumber4 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Olympic stadium a 12:59 is now home to West Ham United football club.

    • @uhegbu
      @uhegbu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that is right from the former ground at Upton Park. Ipswich station is the point where the line to Lowestoft turns off from the main line.

  • @manzanilla4
    @manzanilla4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome aboard on this Greater Anglia service to London Liverpool Street calling at Diss, Stowmarket, Needham Market, Ipswich, Manningtree, Colchester, Marks Tey, Kelvedon, Witham, Hatfield Peverel, Chelmsford, Ingatestone, Shenfield, Romford, Seven Kings, Stratford and London Liverpool Street. The next station is Diss.

  • @fgwHST43009
    @fgwHST43009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Straight through a tree at 21:39

  • @timjones9727
    @timjones9727 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will you be able to go from Shenfield to Southend Victoria at some point?

    • @flexanomical1
      @flexanomical1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can drive from Liverpool street to Southend Victoria. The extension is on UKtrainsim

  • @dutchy777
    @dutchy777 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the way you use miles, so many things on TV now use kilometres which are pretty meaningless to us in the UK

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I use miles on British and American routes as that’s what’s used in real life. I use kilometers on German and other routes in this game because that’s what they use in real life. :)

    • @dutchy777
      @dutchy777 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes that's true but channel is aimed at UK viewers so do both on the continent perhaps?@@PTGRail

  • @bernardgeorge1052
    @bernardgeorge1052 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    After a new install. I installed this from the steam workshop, but it still asking for other things I can’t find. I’m new to rail sims, I’m trying to get it working for my son. I travelled this service this evening on my way home.
    Thanks

    • @Meehan2023
      @Meehan2023 ปีที่แล้ว

      The route or the train?

  • @Viper-CT
    @Viper-CT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you get the AGA Class 90/DVT set?
    Also I might as well add that the Full GEML route seen here does NOT come up on the steam workshop anymore, I'm not certain if it`s having a revamp or it is permentely gone.
    Any Suggestions?

  • @112Haribo
    @112Haribo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm watching this without sound and at 2x speed, but what's up with that SPAD at 1:29:35 ? Bug in the route that won't clear the signal?

  • @YBZGSpots
    @YBZGSpots 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do I always think that it is Matt peddleston behind the mic?

  • @70humdinger94
    @70humdinger94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just out of curiosity, why do some of the 321 trains have 12 coaches when the majority have 8?

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      321s can be formed of 4, 8, or 12 coaches. I wasn’t sure which services were supposed to be which length, so chose randomly. As it’s during the morning rush hour, I figured that you’d be unlikely to see any 4 coach formations so went with 8 and 12, with 8 being the most common length I’ve seen when travelling on the GEML.

    • @volvotrident4835
      @volvotrident4835 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PTGRail Yes the CPU trains are timetabled.

  • @ravivenkatesan6757
    @ravivenkatesan6757 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:29:45 So from here, can we call it the Diss-track?

  • @oscarbaldry3399
    @oscarbaldry3399 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    can someone please tell me how to get the extention from ipswich to norwich please

  • @NSE465
    @NSE465 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That FOV tho...

  • @jayspotter3769
    @jayspotter3769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool video it does not stop Witham dude that’s wrong Announcement

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Norwich services don't normally stop at Witham, but this one does. Train 1P04, the 06:25 service from Liverpool Street to Norwich is scheduled to stop at Witham at 07:08. See here: www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/L71013/2019/09/26/advanced

    • @jayspotter3769
      @jayspotter3769 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      PTGRail oh ok that’s nice bro you should do London Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria dude that be awesome but cool video too

  • @niallgladerbob480
    @niallgladerbob480 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else watching this during lockdown ??

    • @r3playretro
      @r3playretro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Before, during and after

  • @sghosh9306
    @sghosh9306 ปีที่แล้ว

    This route is not available in the workshop, where to find this route

  • @Un-Grand-Central
    @Un-Grand-Central 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for some reason i cant finsd this on the workshop and the link says to try again

  • @reid1136
    @reid1136 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy is like the shmee of trains

  • @johnashmore8093
    @johnashmore8093 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happens if u drive with the DRA on John

  • @cytokin5365
    @cytokin5365 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, PTG and all:
    First of all, nice and long awaited video, especially the full GEML, a very interesting line.
    Second, I've been long trying to look for that Class 90 link, where can and did you get it for free or did you use payware to access the Greater Anglia Class 90?
    Thank you and keep up the good work.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment! I’m glad that you enjoyed this video. The Class 90 is the version available from the Steam store, and the resin comes with the Wherry Lines route.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      *reskin

    • @cytokin5365
      @cytokin5365 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      the Armstrong version or both steam and Armstrong have it?

    • @BricksForDays
      @BricksForDays 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cytokin5365 Its a reskin of the Steam version of the Class 90

  • @southwesternrailwayfan
    @southwesternrailwayfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you get this route

  • @TheArkamedBat
    @TheArkamedBat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this the Norwich in 90 train?

  • @joelharris1335
    @joelharris1335 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PTGRail, Did you know that the class 91, 82 - Mark 3 and 82 Mark 4 DVTs have three horns?

  • @bowlerstuff9589
    @bowlerstuff9589 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    never new any stopped at witham.

    • @tsguyoldchannel2691
      @tsguyoldchannel2691 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neither. I thought these services just skipped it.

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is the only Class 90 service to stop at Witham from what I can see in the timetable.

    • @archie4686
      @archie4686 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      what ever

    • @jakegtr
      @jakegtr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They also stop when trains run to ingatestone/shenfield

  • @Mattwatts181
    @Mattwatts181 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did u get the reskin

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It comes with the Wherry Lines route.

  • @damianc.0.681
    @damianc.0.681 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you do a voice over or live voice with recording when doing these?????

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a live commentary as I'm driving, though the introduction is usually scripted and done more as a voiceover.

    • @damianc.0.681
      @damianc.0.681 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PTGRail ahhh ok 👍 keep up the good stuffs. It really helps

  • @hollyscarff
    @hollyscarff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    06:25

  • @johnwray6458
    @johnwray6458 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi

  • @BricksForDays
    @BricksForDays 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video! Where was the scenario from please? :)

    • @robfcgaming1947
      @robfcgaming1947 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a custom created scenario I think

  • @transportacrosstheuk7369
    @transportacrosstheuk7369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I get the class 90?

    • @Meehan2023
      @Meehan2023 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steam and Armstrong powerhouse but you need the steam first then ap

  • @nihongo02341
    @nihongo02341 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the extension still free?

    • @Meehan2023
      @Meehan2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can't get the extension you can get wherry lines access you to get a scenario from the geml

  • @Magicshuttez
    @Magicshuttez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What computer do you use

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m using an Intel Core i7 4790k 4ghz Processor, with 16gb Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1833mhz RAM, and an NVIDIA GTX 980 graphics card.

  • @rondon9897
    @rondon9897 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the ‘neutral section’ and what is the sign for it?

    • @TheArkamedBat
      @TheArkamedBat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is a section without power.Used to change voltage in catenary

  • @ben.taylor
    @ben.taylor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now then, why Witham of all places? I understand it's a rather nice town, but class 90s don't stop there..

    • @PTGRail
      @PTGRail  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most don’t, but this one does. I used the real timetable in the creation of this scenario. See here: www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/L81022/2018/12/06/advanced

    • @ben.taylor
      @ben.taylor 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PTGRail Right, that's rather intruiging...

    • @ben.taylor
      @ben.taylor 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jakegtr Been there a couple of times, it's alright I suppose - "fancy" was just a supposed structure word.

    • @fgwHST43009
      @fgwHST43009 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      On Sunday 23 December 1P16 0948 Ingatestone to Norwich calls at Witham. www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/F95634/2018/12/23/advanced

  • @everythingbyjanetdullaghan5122
    @everythingbyjanetdullaghan5122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg

  • @everythingbyjanetdullaghan5122
    @everythingbyjanetdullaghan5122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    X

  • @GvN145
    @GvN145 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Prefiro OpenBve

  • @jaydonwray7456
    @jaydonwray7456 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi

    • @archie4686
      @archie4686 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      are you brothers or cusens