I agree with “she is a child not a thing”. Some fans act like they have the right to know every single thing about Jack and Gabbie taking care of Lav. They act like THEY are IN the relationship. It’s not any of our business. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes
Fans need to stop trying to get into there personal life!! And other fans need to stop trying to spread rumors about jack and Gabbie like plz stay out of it!! And mind there own damn business!🙄
I can’t believe the way I used to despise this girl just because I was such a huge fan of Jack. This has my heart completely melting. So proud of her and her strength.
I hate when limelights think of the boys like they are perfect. The boys are human and have their flaws. You paint a picture of someone and when that picture is ruined and you find out that they are human you choose not to see that. It's sad that you choose to hate on gabbie instead of seeing Jack as a human with flaws. THEIR relationship and how they deal with THEIR child is none of your business.
Gabbie has been silenced so long. She has the right to talk about what she has experienced. It takes a lot of courage to talk about the trauma that you've been through. Also is anyone else worried that Randy is still their manager after what Gabbie said.
OMG IM WORRIED knowing how that David wad bad to the boys making them get naked and stuff and RANDY??? Hoping that the baby and Gabbie dies THATS DISGUSTING
We don’t know if everything is true tho? Jack still has his side of the story too. There’s always two sides to every story. Remember BOTH did horrible things to each other in the past. It’s just that jack never brings in on social media. I’m not saying gabbies should be silent, I’m just saying they BOTH did things.
@@GlowMeUp. wanting someone and a CHILD to die is disgusting. The baby is completely and you just don’t like Gabbie bc a couple of attractive boys got famous
the fact that she was a minor when she got pregnant with jack, who was a whole ass adult, and couldn't even legally consent to sexual intercourse is the first red flag. i'm so glad shes doing much better now and is out of that toxic relationship
She was 16 and he 19 while I agree that it is really early to get a child this age their relationship was completely legal and age appropriate. Americans are so sensitive in Europe it’s no big deal
That’s not a red flag to Jack. That’s a red flag to gab for not saying no and being reckless. Their relationship wasn’t toxic either. 16 IS the legal age to consent to sex with someone over 18 in most states
@@ungval1954 but she consented he consented obviously. the legal age is 16 nothing legally can happen saying it was r@pe or anything because of laws saying that the age is 16 and 2 years and 2 months apart is less than 3 years so that means they can’t do anything about it
i’m super glad that we finally got to hear her side of the story, and i’m so supportive of her i have a completely new perspective on her and their situation, and it taught me that everything on social media is only pieces of the story that random ppl use to make up their own stories with like i remember when all this stuff she talked abt happened, like christmas 2019, and i saw what ppl said bc of what was posted but no one had any idea of what was acc happening overall i think ppl are so mean to the gfs bc they’re jealous, and since the gfs weren’t allowed to speak their truths and show who they rly are, it could be hard to humanize them at times, so i think this vulnerability rly shows everyone how much gabbie (and the other gfs) have been mistreated and that they’re just ppl with feelings, who literally were young and fell in love w some cute guys in a cool boy band thx for reading my essay
yes also i hate the fact she gets treated like shit for anything minor she does and people go and say yess jack and litterly he has been smoking on insta posts if gabbie did that she would be hated so much so it is double standards but this girl has been through so much at 16
@@sarahjohnsonj06 so true sis, like the fact she was so young and innocent during all this is so crazy and i just looked at the comments on his insta and all of them were literally like “yayyyy jack’s a smokerrrr” or “LET ME DO IT WITH YOU” (all written by young teens) but when gabbie was accused of smoking once, ppl were calling her disgusting- like the double standards are so there bc like uhhhh what😃
@@cheesybananoir9113 yeah it's upsetting but i also hate how people tell her how to parent? it's her and jacks business what or how they parent but young people wanna call her digusting names which is not ok
@@sarahjohnsonj06 I mean smoking is not a bad thing really but if she did or he did it’s not one’s business not going to lie some fans are too much since 2016
jack sounds like a walking red flag. i’m heartbroken for gabbie :( i couldn’t imagine going through this. i wish her all the best & more healing to come
i think shes lying about some parts, during the time he apparently wasnt helping her with her pregnancy was also the time they were being slaved by their manager so yeah
Jack was way too immature bro ☠️☠️ the way he treated her verbally seems so disgusting, and he was like 19 acting like that? sickening & hilarious. Gabbie honestly deserved better, it makes me so sad how clueless she was to how terrible & unhealthy of a relationship it was ): & how she genuinely wanted to just have a good life with him b4 she was self aware. it’s so great that she’s living her life rn with her husband & Lav🫶 ofc I don’t know Jacks side of the story, but how can u try & defend him with manipulating her to not wearing a condom & that it’ll be okay? this whole mess wouldn’t have happened without that situation ..
I’m so happy she shared this. I can’t imagine how difficult this experience has been and the pain and trauma that came with it. That’s a lot for a teenager to go through but I’m so glad she had supportive family and friends there for her. She is so brave and strong and her resilience is so inspirational. I wish her and her baby all the best ❤️
I don't understand how people can still defend Jack when Gabbie just made a whole 2 hours and half live explaining the whole situation, and what Jack did? nothing, cause he's wrong! he's the one wrong, Gabbie did nothing, she was an adolescent, she didn't knew what was going to happen, and Jack was already 18 or even more!!!!!!!!!! I love how Jack stans let down their morals to defend a man they don't even know. Ok I don't know gabbie either, but she have proofs, Jack didn't even talked about the situation 🤷♀️🤷♀️
i couldn't watch the live when she was live and now that i've watched it, i feel rly bad for gabbie. i don't want to take anyone's side, but this is actually rly sad.
I agree and in my opinion the emotion on her face and in her voice really makes me believe she's been through a lot so to me it really seems like she's not lying and I really didn't want to believe it because i wanted to believe jack is a good person but I'm really starting to think he's not
I love jack so much BUT I’m not surprised he has acted like this, it sounds very typical boy act, they can act a certain way and it’s fine but as soon as the girl does it’s wrong
I'm extremely proud of her for speaking up ! And yes, I do believe her side of the story to be true. She also mentioned how Jonah, Daniel, and Zach's family was extremely supportive towards her and so I don't think they would support a liar instead of their own son's band-mate. She said Anna Seavey is still really good friends with her and that just proofs that Gabbie was probably wronged. Also, don't get me started on how she should've kept this to herself. Jack's mom started this and bashed her first.
@@armystay4life299 yes he can't controle what they say or do but there is still way to many things he did himself, he is a fucking grown ass man, he was 19 yo ffs, he needs to take more responsibility as a father insteda og blaming it on Gabbie, and if he doesn't he should of used fucking protection like a decent human being.
@@natasavucenovic1319 ok 1 stop swearing so much 2 I wasn't saying he didn't do anything I was talking abt how people are putting what his mom said on him
@@armystay4life299 I agree but I also think if he wanted his mom to stay silent she would've. From what I hear from this video (and I am not confirming/saying its factual, I just don't know why Gabbie would lie) his mom would do anything for him and if it is as simple as staying quiet over social media for his sake then she would listen to him in a heartbeat.
I'm also extremely proud of her for speaking up! And Yes I still do believe her side of the story to be true but she is really deeply upset by it though cuz i'm watching it and i think she's proves herself that Gabbie was right about this and i'm on full support her all the way but she is not lying to anyone and i really do feel so sorry for her cuz she is actually a kind and a sweetheart woman ❤️👠❤️ 👠
it took me like three days collectively to watch this whole live. it's crazy the stuff she's been through. i'm glad she was able to move on from that toxic relationship.
yeah i watched half last night i accidently fell asleep and had to rewatch the last 1hour i didn't see bc it was a lot but it's good she can talk, girl has been silent since 16
I haven’t watched it and I don’t think I’m going to. Everything I’ve seen and heard I feel like is the jist of what I need to know and when I had someone explain it to me I felt like I couldn’t breathe and I don’t want to go through that for 2 hours
All I can say, is shes fucking amazing. All the crap shes been through, all the things she had to take, and she is an amazing mother today. She should never apologize for setting boundaries, for protecting herself or her child. Edit: of course the wdw account had to repost only Jacks post with Lavander to make him seem like a great guy 💀
@@gracerobbins8505 yeah well jack has never put his child in harms way unlike some people who want to marry a 30 year old man who made jokes about child molestaton
@@nylawinston915 because he hasn't done one specific bad thing , that negates all the bad things he's done? you sound like a 10 yr old , or you at least have the maturity and emotional intelligence of one
How can a woman be at fault when a the boy is the one who got her pregnantand didnt even wanted to use protection at the first place. Make it make sense.
it makes me so sad i feel so bad for gabbie’s parents, plus her they did nothIng wrong, just thinking about the situation of them being at the pool and them trying and his mom not because she isn’t comfy and saying their taking her away /: like what else is there to do? people like that you can’t ever please them ..
Im actually so happy that she had said something!! I genuinely thought that these people were so sweet and nice and that theyve been through everything, but seeing how gabbie isnt holding back to talk about the behind the scenes, really changed my perspective. I will fully support gabbie!!
she truly is a strong woman and lavender is gonna be an amazing woman when she grows up bc of this, like genuinely jack is not who he portrays to be and its crazy to me that theres still people who believe shes lying. i really just wanna hug gabby
Jack may want to talk about his side of the story,but can't. Him and the boys are still under lawsuit with the management. Do even if he wanted to talk about it he probably couldn't.
She deserves the best she does so much for lavender and makes sure she knows her dad which is important I feel like a child shouldn’t have to be going through something like this but Gabbie is doing a great job of protecting her and making sure she is seen as what she’s worth
I hope people don't try and say Gabbie should keep this off the internet. It's clear she wanted to handle it offline originally, but is now forced to come online and defend herself because fans don't know when to butt out. Please leave her alone. Being a single mom is hard enough, and it's pretty obvious she's doing an incredible job so far (and you really can't disagree with that even if you're on "Jack's side" because he's said himself that she's a great mom to Lav). And most definitely please don't try and say there's not a double standard here because there is. If Gabbie ever posted a picture with so much as a glass of wine in her hands, y'all would rip her to shreds. But Jack's "so cool" for posting blunts all over his instagram. I'm not saying he's a bad dad, but if y'all aren't going to come at him for that post, then you have absolutely no right to say anything to Gabbie. Also, you can understand that Jack's been through and lot and still recognize that Gabbie has as well. You can explain Jack's actions as a result of his own abuse-- which very well may be true-- but an explanation isn't the same thing as an excuse. He still needs to be held accountable and learn and grow. It's actually dangerous to his well being if you all keep excusing his (or any of the boys') bad behavior-- they can't grow if they don't recognize what they're doing is wrong. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'm not asking for anyone to send him hate. I've been a fan of wdw since the beginning, and part of that is realizing that they are all HUMAN. They make mistakes. So do I, so do all of you. Making mistakes isn't the issue. It's whether or not you learn from them.
I find it absurd that you want to defend Jack just for being Jack, understand that I'm not on either side, I don't know both stories, but there are girls who have him so idealized to the point that it becomes sick. Leaving Lavander aside, listen to the whole story and understand that his way of acting is manipulative, abusive, and toxic. Let's not go into details of his mother, his family, and so on. I've been in this fandom since literally the beginning, I went on their first-ever tour, and since then I've heard different stories of manipulation from all the guys (except Daniel). It is absurd that sorority is promoted everywhere, but when it comes to idols, this concept is completely forgotten.
You're an angel. I just watched all 2 hours 30 minutes. I was one of the biggest why don't we fans and fans of Jack ever since they announced the band (until around last year). I actually cannot comprehend he and his family did this to you and the fact that you explained the situation without EVEN ONCE EVER SAYING you don't like them is utterly mind-boggling. I don't care if you say you don't like them in your personal life but if I was you, even on a live like this, there is no chance in hell I would've gone through it without at least mentioning once how much I despise them. My wishes are with you and Lavender Gonzalez and from the bottom of my heart, I'm truly sorry that someone like you had to deal with such a disgusting, toxic situation.
The most shocking part of this to me was the whole thing about Randy, I’m extremely concerned that the boys are being so manipulated that even they can’t see that Randy isn’t this “saving grace” that he’s being idolized as right now. Gabbie is obviously being super honest in her experience with him and everything she’s saying lines perfectly up with his past…
She moved to Hawaii because she is a woman with thoughts and feelings who loves surfing and the beach and wanted to be in some place where she felt happiness. If jack wanted to see his daughter that badly than he could’ve packed all his shit got on a plane to Hawaii and lived there. A daughter should mean more than a career. It’s really hard to hear all of this I’ve been a fan of why don’t we for a few years now but he should really start understanding that Gabriela is a human and is trying her very best to keep everyone happy. The fact that his family says she keeps lavender away from him is so fucking bizarre to me. Shes done a great job raising up lavender and I bet jack has too. I hope the best for all three of them
Agree but i think since you've heard only one side of the story ur biased towards gabby. And honestly why should he. They can just figure it out just as easily. Its wrong to hate on Gabby AND jack both because they're both parents of lav and its abiut time both sides grew up and figured it out privately instead of going on sm amd saying shitty stuff about each other on internet where their daughter can one day see what happened
In my opinion keeping a child away from his dad is that when she had been moved to Europe or Asia or something widely far away from where jack lives and refusing that Jack can see his daughter at all. But in another way it's none of our business...
Why should he have to pack all his stuff? Is it not a 50/50 relationship? You seem kinda biased. Just because "she is a woman with thoughts and feelings" she automatically gets to pick where they live and he automatically has to adjust?
@@hmmtea7438 I’m not saying that at all. What I’m trying to say is that jack isn’t really allowing her to have some flaws here. She moved for him at one point and all he really did was party. I completely support both of them and their decisions. I just find it a little strange how jack has cancelled many times to fly up to Hawaii and once Gabriela tries to do it cause she’s sick he’s pissed at her and starts getting thrown by his family. I’ve only heard Gabrielas story that’s true but I’ve seen the tweet his mom tweeted about gabby and all the shit she said about her. I feel empathy towards both people here. It’s a very hard and messing situations I’m really not trying to sound like I’m taking sides here but I’m truly not Gabbie has done a lot of shit just like Jack has. They are both growing and trying to find who they truly are
@@honeybuzzinsoo I agree that they should keep it a private thing for sure. Also guys I’m not picking a side I’m just saying that it’s crazy what has been said to her that’s all.
Honestly like she said about The Man, a dad just being a decent human being and taking care of their child is praised and kept on a high horse BUT if a single mother were to do that, it is considered meh, it is her job after all like wth. Gabbie has been through it all so people thinking she shouldn't say anything that is is just pure stupidity I am sorry but it is the truth, sometimes it takes YEARS to find this kind of closure to actually talk about a shitty period in your life, and honestly if Jack gets to choose his path and gets to move the fuk on so does she. Jack's mom should've NEVER come in between their matter, being a band member and a dad is tough I get it, but you cant have it all good, get to be in the band and have your daughter with you by sending the person doing it a text that is beyond grotesque but lets not talk about that. If he wants to meet Lav he can do things he is a parent it is NOT always the mom's job cuz it tool both of them the make Lav so taking care of her and being for her is both their jobs not just Gab's
@@armystay4life299 stop defending him. As much as we love the boys. He messed up! I don’t blame him for his family’s actions but I do bc if he really cared he would’ve stopped his family from making all those comments while with Gabbie and after they broke up. As much as he listened to them while being with her, he should’ve just put boundaries up and told his family to stop. He’s a grown ass man! I don’t understand why he was listening to his mom when he’s the one that had the baby. Not only that but he legit gave and is still giving his family everything but when he decided not to wear protection he still put his family over the girl he got pregnant. He chose to listen to his family, he chose not to tell them anything when they were bashing Gabbie, he chose to put them over her when he’s the one that messed up, these are all his actions and there’s more where he could’ve stepped up as a father of THEIR child.
@@armystay4life299 okay yeah we might not know both sides of the story but what I do know is that if she was lying nobody from the boys family’s and/or some of their friends would be supporting her or defending her. Its funny how everyone supported Christina and Tate when they spoke out about what they felt while dating the guys yet when Gabbie felt confident enough to say something bc of the girls, everyone bashes her and talks bad about her. Also put yourself in her shoes for a bit, if you were forced to keep everything a secret from dating him to having his child, wouldn’t you be pissed. She was so young and thought the way he was treating her was love. They put so much pressure on her to hide her pregnancy, you don’t think that mentally drains you? I would’ve spoken out too if I was her. It’s always girls supporting girls until your favorite male artist is put into the mix.
I'm glad she spoke about this. I dont agree with the "she should've kept this in private" because when injustices like these happen, its important to talk about them and it gets tiring to be going through this behind the scenes. I hope gabbie and lav can be happy and safe.
I am so sorry that she had to go through this. No one should be treated that way. She is such an incredible mother and person. So proud of her for speaking up and her strength. ❤
i cried half way listening i feel so bad for her that it just to be so public but also on both sides either one did wrong but nobody should shame her or jacks way of parenting that's private and nobody should treat lav like a object she is a child they have and isn't something to be thrown around like a bean bag
Even if we don't have Jack's side of the story, I believe Gabbie. There is no reason why she should've gone through the things she did. If he had ANY human decency, he would've stood up for her no matter what, even if he had fallen out of love with her/didn't love her in the first place. Standing back and letting people throw threats and tell the mother of your unborn child to abort the baby and not say anything is just wrong. Of course they were gonna have problems in the future because he didn't stand up for her against his mom or anyone who was showing their true colors towards Gabbie. I bet if he would've told certain people to back off, he would've made co-parenting easier for Gabbie and himself. And she wouldn't of had to explain her side of the story in the first place.
She is so super strong for speaking up about this incredibly awful situation. Gabbie is amazing and she has the right to speak her truth. I really hope that Gabbie and Lav have a wonderful life because they truly deserve it.
Girl you are so strong!! Look into narcissistic abuse.. I got out of a marriage where I was being physically, mentally and emotionally abused as well as cheated on, manipulated and gaslit for so long and I stayed silent even after I left him for our son. Now my son is 17 and very very much like his father which scares the crap out of me. Your situation sounds so familiar.. please protect yourself and educate yourself as much as possible on narcissism and you will regain all your power back from him. I promise you with some time and help it is possible! I feel for you and your baby! Just know you’re a lot stronger than you give yourself credit for and you are not alone!
"He never laid a hand on me". He coerced a young girl who didn't know any better to not use protection and possibly committed stealthing. That's sexual assault, and instead of having him arrested and career ruined they let the father of their future daughter/granddaughter get off free. And in return his family threatens to take Lavender away from her so that she'll go out of her way to do things for them. I'm so sad for all her and her family have went through. Yes Jack has gone through shit too but that doesn't invalidate what she went through.
@@hmmtea7438 How hard is it for you to understand? She wanted to use condoms. He told her no, told her it would be fine if she didn’t and not to use bc either, and basically that he wouldn’t have sex w protection. That is coercion point blank
@@_notmyproblem_ Even if all of that is true, it doesn’t take away from the fact that she’s been abused and threatened. I’m not trying to say either of them are completely innocent. She deserves some compassion rn
She has a point its NO ONES business how her and Jack deal with Lav and their split I love Jack and I love Gabbie and as a Limelight I am not taking sides it is wrong for limelights and people who aren't part of this family to butt their noses where it doesn't belong. the overall thing is MIND YOUR OWN GODDAMN BUSINESS THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DO LIVES TO EXPLAIN ABOUT LAV AND THE SHIT THEY GO THROUGH SHE IS GOING THROUGH A ROUGH TIME AND FRANKLY SO IS JACK THEY BOTH ARE UNDER STRESS GABBIE WITH EVERYONE BOTHERING HER AND BEING ASSES ABOUT LAV AND THE FACT THAT EVERYONE ISN'T LEAVING HER ALONE AND HER CAREER. JACK WITH HIS CAREER, THE SHIT THAT WENT DOWN WITH RANDY, THIS SHIT WITH GABBIE, THIS SHIT WITH LAVENDER SO ONCE AGAIN MY OVERALL POINT IS MIND YOUR OWN GODDAMN EVER LOVING BUSINESS THIS IS BETWEEN GABBIE AND JACK IT DISGUST ME THAT PEOPLE BEEN BOTHERING HER AND HIM SO MUCH THAT IT LED HER TO DO THIS LIVE AND MIGHT LEAD TO HIM DOING ONE TOO YA'LL HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THEM AND YA;LL NEED TO GET IT. I've seen so many comments and only some of them are valid YA'LL NEED TO START SUPPORTING THEM BOTH BECAUSE TAKING SIDES IS RIDICULOUS AND IT DOESN'T HELP SHIT GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER AND INSTEAD OF COMING AT EACH OTHER BECAUSE SOMEONE IS PROTECTING JACK OR BECAUSE SOMEONE IS PROTECTING GABBIE FUCKING SUPPORT BOTH JEEZ YALL ARE PUTTING THEM UNDER MORE STRESS THAN THE OVERALL SITUATION WITH LAV IS DAMN SO AGAIN MIND YOUR BUSINESS OR SUPPORT BOTH BECAUSE IF GABBIE THINKS JACK IS RUINING HER LIFE OR HE THINKS SHES RUINING HIS THEY ARE BOTH WRONG THE FANS AND PEOPLE POSTING SHIT ABOUT GABBIE OR ABOUT JACK ARE THE ONES RUINING THEIR LIVES YALL MAKIN IT HARD FOR THEM AND YALL NEED TO STOP.
IKR! you just explained everything I needed to! Like seriously why in the world do people need to butt in its not there relationship! Gabbie and Jack are already going through so so much stress and anxiety each of them with there own problems! LIKE WHY DO PEOPLE TAKE SIDES? I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND JACK IS GOING THROUGH THE SAME AMOUNT OF ANXIETY AS GABBIE SO ITS KINDA UNFAIR FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE SIDES! Yes Jack might have don't some shitty things in the past BUT SO DID GABBIE THERE NOT PERFECT I SUPPORT BOTH GABBIE AND JACK NO MATTER THERE FLAWS. Like there already going through so much and people just take Gabbies story and add false bites and pieces to it UNTIL THE HOLE THING IS FALSE! LIKE SOME LIMELIGHTS ARE FORCING JACK TO TELL HIS SIDE OF THE STORY BUT CURRENTLY HE CANT, HE IS IN A GODDAMN LAWSUIT WHY DONT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND! at this point I'm genuinely concerned about Gabbie and the bands future, I really hop things get sorted out sooner or later because with the things Corbyn and Jack have done, I really don't know how much longer they can last as a bad and I can't even believe saying this right now. People need to mined there own business and stop butting in
Guys for those who say Jack needs to speak up for himself know that he CANT. Please keep in mined that the boys are still in a lawsuit with the management and if he wanted to he couldn't. And pluse I just don't understand why some people think they have control over Jack and Gabbie, like they DONT you can't say what they need to do or what they can't to or what to say and what not to say or how they should parent lav etc. It's their choice what to do and not ours.the boys and Gabbie have been going through a lot and I mean ALOT with all their problems know that they aren't perfect they have there own flaws, we all have are own flaws and the last thing the boys and Gabbie want is being judged by the people who they have never met before telling them the things they do wrong. Like it's their choice, it's their lives we can't just step in and pretend like nothing ever happened. They're human beings with feelings that can get hurt sometimes with what people say. For gods sake please stop hating on Gabbie or any of the boys
I was so hurt when people were saying that they won't support Jack. I'm so happy you said this because this comment calmed me down just now. And yes, I'm still aware about them and their crusty ass management. I hope everyone is okay.
@@ZoeyHope It hurt too, neither Jack or Gabbie deserve to be hated, yes they might have done wrong in the past but if you ask me no one deserves hate, there's also an actual chiled we're dealing with here so I think they need to sort things out in private and yes I do truly hope everyone is doing ok
@@blackhole7909 I bet if Jack spoke up and not Gabbie, they would take full sides of Jack, this fandom is INSANE ( not in a mean way, in a friendly way, I love all the limelights out there )
Just wanna on touch of the fact that she gets destroyed for moving to Hawaii… she moved because she can, not to take lavender away from jack, because he certainly has the chance to see her whenever he wants, she shouldn’t have to stop her life for this guy who isn’t putting in any effort, if he really wanted to see her so bad he would go out of his way (just like she does) to see his daughter
@@hmmtea7438 did you even watch it? She talked about how she flies there every other month with lav to allow jack to see her. But jack cancels last minute every time its his turn to come to Hawaii. She literally said that she was too sick to travel one time and jack texted her with “I don’t care if you are sick, i want you get on that damn plane and bring her” or something. Bruh, smh
@@thriiibuzzing8052 but them saying that he should go out of his way isn't fair either. Plus she isn't really all that exciting so no I did not watch all of that boring video.
One of the bigger reasons she got attacked for moving to Hawaii is because of the problem with Native Hawaiians being pushed out of their rightfully owned land into poverty for tourism etc
I agree they should've handle this offline specially because there is a child involved BUT Jack's mom started tweeting things about Gabbie taking Lav away from her dad and the whole fandom started going at Gabbie on social media, besides, I started liking WDW this year and seeing some fan accounts yall seem to have an opinion on how they should raise their own kid and choose to hate on Gabbie as if you knew her, Jack and their co-parenting situation. I'm sure both of them made mistakes and I'm glad Gabbie is standing up for herself. I hope they can come together for Lav's well being and they can come up with a beneficial solution for all parts. PS. If the management was capable of mistreating the boys I can't imagine how they treated their gfs specially if one of them got pregnant. Randy has a horrible reputation too, they should not stay w him.
Girlies, I am 24 now and if I could tell my 15 year old self anything it would be: if he’s pressuring you to do ANYTHING you are uncomfortable with, dump his ass. Not even sliiiightly worth it, put yourself first loves. ❤️
I agree. Younger me definitely wanted to be loved by people, no matter how good or bad they treated me. Now I know better than to stay in a situation where I’m being walked all over on
everyone is posting sides but im taking both sides. They both are going through things (work, themselves) and a child- like they both have their struggles and i bet a million dollars theyve both been in the wrong before. they still have a daughter who loves both of them and needs both of them in their lives and posting on social media will just increase the drama and pressure that they dont need. at the end of the day, they just need to communicate with each other to be ok. sometimes it doesnt work out but thats not for us to discriminate them for. all we should do is hear their sides of the story and accept that they are adults who should be mature and do what they need to do, especially for their daughter. i hope they figure things out for lavender to see them both 💜
I agree, they both have their flaws, I just think Gabbie shouldn't have said anything on social media, I'm kinda glad Jack stayed more silent about things and I hope he keeps it that way.
@@KAYYMARIE_ the boys cant really say anything if u look at this and the cristina situation none of the boys said anything instead they put out a pr thing
@@KAYYMARIE_ i hope so to but it's definitly gonna be hard after this cause now he got more people coming at his neck i just hope this gets better for lavs sake if not their own
I’m so proud of her!! She’s been through so much, and she deserves the world. I can’t believe she was just treated this way, it’s unfair! And I want her to know she’s safe, so many people are here for her, and she is such a great mom to lavender 💜 I wish her so much love and support, Gabbie is so strong! 🥺😭❤️
I love you for who you are be you be happy that is good but you are the greatest woman ever and mom to don't let commets bring you down I love you and you are a tellligant woman
Honestly this breaks my heart, Gabbie really went through a lot. You can also see jack wouldn’t have done what he did if it wasn’t for his living environment 🙁 It’s very obvious his mom made him think that way in everything
I love both Jack and Gabbie. I love Why don’t we, but does that mean i’m gonna defend them for the stuff they’ve done? No, absolutely not. Gabbie is so strong and i’m proud of her
I always thought this situation was sketchy and gabby was holding back from telling her truth. So glad she finally got all of this off of her chest. Love her💕💕
Gabbie im so sry babes. You are so brave. Thank you for tells us. I really thought they good people. Thank you for telling us the truth. Your amazing and didn't deserve any of this. I'm so sry you had to go through this for 4-5 yrs. I love you so much for being brave. Your a really good person. I hate you went through it. ❤
I’m reading all the coments and I’m so glad people are finally getting it thru there heads that gabbie is trying her hardest and receives so much hate for being a mother when Jack gets nothing because girls are just obsessed with him. I honestly can’t believe she had to go thru this. My heart goes out to her🥺❤️
@@blackhole7909 I’m not putting jack in the bad light I’m just saying she gets more hate because she’s the ex of a band member so obviously limelight’s are going to be on jacks side. It’s just like with any celebrity after they break up usually the girl gets more hate so just chill with the whole ‘putting jack in the bad light’🙄
this is coming from a person who used to have a wdw fan page, this is in no way okay. Jack and his mom made her life so miserable and that shouldn’t just be ignored. She was underaged and was token advantage of people she didn’t stand up for herself (not like that would of stopped management). She was also silenced like the boys so she has every right to say her side of the story, I admired Jack but this is so not okay and there should be consequences.
People should learn to let celebrities or other people in general live their lives and don’t judge based on that little information they have. I like wdw and their songs and I will continue listening to them and let them live their lifes the way they want to. It’s not our position to judge!
Believe the victim, even if they are lying why would you believe someone who is possibly an abuser over someone who is most likely saying the truth about what they as a person went through
I'm so disappointed in Jack, I can't believe what he did to Gabbie.I wanted to cry because of everything gabbie said I want to hug her right now😢gabbie look and don't feel guilty for getting pregnant, you knew absolutely nothing, so don't blame yourself, if the one who is to blame is Jack Jack everything you did to him, how could you!gabbie you are a great mom to lavender, lavender is so lucky to have you as a mom
I left the fandom soon as their new era started . I have a family of my own and the fact Jack treated the mother of his child this way sickens me. My husband and his family never did this kinda crap. I heard on insta she is getting lawyers and with her case it will be an easy win with possible phone call audio as well as Anna as witness and phone messages . Why don’t we more like Why don’t we take accountability 😡
Also can I just call out the "fans" real quick who only like girls who are close with wdw and then as soon as they aren't anymore, start hating on them and bullying them. Cuz, NEWS FLASH, letting a man determine which women you like and don't like isn't "women supporting women." It's misogyny in disguise.
Bro- but the fact Jack got Gabbie pregnant when she was underaged and he was overaged, my jaw dropped, I can’t believe he did that it hurts to see Gabbie in pain
He was 19 and she was 17 when lav was born and they knew each her since they were 14 and 16. Weird because gabbies parents were okay with their relationship and would even have him visit them in Florida. There’s pictures of him at their house still on Lisa (gabbies mom’s Instagram). Since the age gap is only 2 years, there’s not much that can be done since in CA the relationship has to be more than 3 years between minor and adult for it to be a an actual pursuable case. In Florida they’re relationship was completely legal and protected because of Romeo and Juliet laws since their age gap once again is not wide enough.
He basically assaulted her since removing the condom with the others consent is considered rape. I can’t imagine what she had to go through and I’m glad she is able to tell everyone what had happened to her.
Gabbie had to speak out her own truth I love why don’t we and don’t get me wrong I adore jack but gabbie has a right to speak out her side of the story too, I hate how men does stuff wrong and everyone don’t hate on them. But when a girl does something wrong she’s gets a ton of hate.
I feel so bad for her man like so many hate on her because they are huge fans of Why don’t we and Jack and thinks his an angel and he’ll never do things like this but his hiding in his fame and doesn’t wanna own up to it
@@natalee988 yeah I used to be a major fan as well till I heard this but I can definitely see Jack doing these things I feel so bad for her and lil Lav
“girls supporting girls” y’all are squashing her! she has been hated silenced and you guys are so- a 16 year and a now like 20 year old is sacrificing her life for jack! gabbie is doing this for her daughter she is stfu because she wants lavender and herself to be safe! jack is a celebrity so he thinks and you guys think hes the shit. hes not jack sounds like a horrible person! omg im so mad at him rn! what in the actual fuck! gabbie is the single mom and got pregnant at 16 and she’s been getting hated on since they split up. shes been abused and silenced im done with why don’t we
This is so sad and she’s not the only girlfriend that has a story to she’s so far the bravest one to speak out against and I can’t wait for girls like Tate or Zach ex speak bc I know they said they had bad experiences
Social media is not always what it seems to be. The pain and hurt she must have gone through is horrible. I am just so glad that Anna and keri and her family were there to support her. Jack's family aka his mum and him are so manipulating. It is disgusting that some people will still defend them. Peopem always think they now everything when they don't. Lavender should have a better father were he arrives on time to visiting hours and were her own father doesn't call her mother nasty names. No human being should ever go through this. And I am sorry but how is Jack supposed supposed take custody of lav if he is always going to be on tour? I suggest that people watch the whole thing. Obviously she left some stuff out which to some people might seem confusing and also because it's a lot for her at the moment and they are going through some legal stuff which means she can't say to much. I AM SO PROUD OF HER ❤
most of the fandom is at most, sixteen. those who are defending jack have either 1) never experienced an abusive relationship or 2) have had the fortune to have never been a teenage mother, or just a mother in general. it’s funny to see people who are like twelve accusing gabbie of lying or defending jack like they have a child or they have been in a relationship. lmfao.
I'm glad she finally got this out. Its important. And I'm gonna be honest this doesn't change my opinion on Jack...I still love him. But I also (I always have) love Gabbie and this is something that I'm so happy she was finally comfortable doing.
what to said about still loving jack is the perfect example of male privilege. people always ignore these things when it’s a man involved. he literally abused, gaslit, manipulated and bullied gabbie while she was still a child, what is wrong with you?
jack needs to grow up but gabbie was the one moving to hawaii to keep jack away from lav, ignoring him when it was time for him to pick her up, complaining about being away from lav when jack had her for the first time in a year? yeah ok keep defending a liar
@@nylawinston915 lol you must be one of Jack’s obsessive fans and you can’t see that Gabby is being genuine. Lots of other people here in this comment section agree and believe her, so why do you keep bugging me about it? Please go get a life, bye 👋🏻
I'm on the verge of tears while watching this because she shouldn't have had to go through this I wish I could just give her a huge hug and tell her everything's gonna be ok and that there are so many people here for her
I’ve never hated Gabbie because I support celebrities and there relationships no matter who it is but hearing the stuff Jack done breaks my heart I know that nobody is perfect but I’m just not sure how I will get over that 🥺
Half of these comments make me so angry. The limelight’s that are defending Jack and insulting Gabbie can’t give a good reason why they hate Gabbie rather than the fact that she was with Jack and had his baby. It’s so infuriating to see people say crap like “she should’ve kept it offline” when it’s those same people who insult her online for no reason. She has a right to stick up for herself against Jack’s family and trolls online.
So basically Jack was just pussy the whole time and scared of his mom disappointment since he is obviously as you can tell “the mama boy” and from you can tell he obv didn’t care or love you but I mean he did love you Gabbie but he was just wasn’t mature enough to make his decision and let his mommy do it and be the control of it. The mom was just an manipulative and narcissistic person. Oh and by the way I am so sorry for the way you got treated and that was not right for them to trying to take your child especially it’s not their concern and business. The only person that is only should be involved is jack and he knows that but obv didn’t get in his thick skull cause all he worried was about his family being disappointed in him.
Jack shouldn’t be partying around on his weeks,that’s not right. Gabbie shouldn’t have to do all of the work. I feel bad for Gabbie ever being hated on for all of this. Us fans shouldn’t be in there private business. Also jack shouldn’t act like that.
I agree with “she is a child not a thing”. Some fans act like they have the right to know every single thing about Jack and Gabbie taking care of Lav. They act like THEY are IN the relationship. It’s not any of our business. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes
So true and i feel so bad for gabbi and he shouldn't have visitation with lav if he isn't going to see her.
But it is up to her but she is the parent who takes care of lav it is up to her if gets visitation.
Exactly like fans need to know that they are not entitled to know anything about their personal life
Fans need to stop trying to get into there personal life!! And other fans need to stop trying to spread rumors about jack and Gabbie like plz stay out of it!! And mind there own damn business!🙄
I didn’t think I’d see you here!
I can’t believe the way I used to despise this girl just because I was such a huge fan of Jack. This has my heart completely melting. So proud of her and her strength.
I hate when limelights think of the boys like they are perfect. The boys are human and have their flaws. You paint a picture of someone and when that picture is ruined and you find out that they are human you choose not to see that. It's sad that you choose to hate on gabbie instead of seeing Jack as a human with flaws. THEIR relationship and how they deal with THEIR child is none of your business.
Preach it sister/brother
PERIOD!!!! Say it again for those who are hard of hearing.
This is why I support both becuase we are all human with flaws we can’t attack a mother a girl nor a man or a boy we are humans
exactly
Exactly
Gabbie has been silenced so long. She has the right to talk about what she has experienced. It takes a lot of courage to talk about the trauma that you've been through. Also is anyone else worried that Randy is still their manager after what Gabbie said.
OMG IM WORRIED knowing how that David wad bad to the boys making them get naked and stuff and RANDY??? Hoping that the baby and Gabbie dies THATS DISGUSTING
We don’t know if everything is true tho? Jack still has his side of the story too. There’s always two sides to every story. Remember BOTH did horrible things to each other in the past. It’s just that jack never brings in on social media. I’m not saying gabbies should be silent, I’m just saying they BOTH did things.
@Felix Jordyn randy and David are the boys manager
@Felix Jordyn Jon is only the tour manager
@@GlowMeUp. wanting someone and a CHILD to die is disgusting. The baby is completely and you just don’t like Gabbie bc a couple of attractive boys got famous
its so annoying how they say she ruined they’re life with her pregnacy when jack was the one that didnt want to use protection
She could of not wanted sex
@@blackhole7909 bru u being fr right now?
@@blackhole7909 what is wrong with you
@@blackhole7909 exactly she could of not wanted sex and he still done it AND he didnt use protection when she asked him to.
Not only that she was a minor and he wasn’t
the fact that she was a minor when she got pregnant with jack, who was a whole ass adult, and couldn't even legally consent to sexual intercourse is the first red flag. i'm so glad shes doing much better now and is out of that toxic relationship
She was 16 which is the legal age to consent to sequel activity
She was 16 and he 19 while I agree that it is really early to get a child this age their relationship was completely legal and age appropriate. Americans are so sensitive in Europe it’s no big deal
That’s not a red flag to Jack. That’s a red flag to gab for not saying no and being reckless. Their relationship wasn’t toxic either. 16 IS the legal age to consent to sex with someone over 18 in most states
@@katiesimon3651 There is a huge maturity difference between a 16 and 19 year old
@@ungval1954 but she consented he consented obviously. the legal age is 16 nothing legally can happen saying it was r@pe or anything because of laws saying that the age is 16 and 2 years and 2 months apart is less than 3 years so that means they can’t do anything about it
i’m super glad that we finally got to hear her side of the story, and i’m so supportive of her
i have a completely new perspective on her and their situation, and it taught me that everything on social media is only pieces of the story that random ppl use to make up their own stories with
like i remember when all this stuff she talked abt happened, like christmas 2019, and i saw what ppl said bc of what was posted but no one had any idea of what was acc happening
overall i think ppl are so mean to the gfs bc they’re jealous, and since the gfs weren’t allowed to speak their truths and show who they rly are, it could be hard to humanize them at times, so i think this vulnerability rly shows everyone how much gabbie (and the other gfs) have been mistreated and that they’re just ppl with feelings, who literally were young and fell in love w some cute guys in a cool boy band
thx for reading my essay
yes also i hate the fact she gets treated like shit for anything minor she does and people go and say yess jack and litterly he has been smoking on insta posts if gabbie did that she would be hated so much so it is double standards but this girl has been through so much at 16
@@sarahjohnsonj06 so true sis, like the fact she was so young and innocent during all this is so crazy and i just looked at the comments on his insta and all of them were literally like “yayyyy jack’s a smokerrrr” or “LET ME DO IT WITH YOU” (all written by young teens) but when gabbie was accused of smoking once, ppl were calling her disgusting- like the double standards are so there bc like uhhhh what😃
@@cheesybananoir9113 yeah it's upsetting but i also hate how people tell her how to parent? it's her and jacks business what or how they parent but young people wanna call her digusting names which is not ok
@@sarahjohnsonj06 I mean smoking is not a bad thing really but if she did or he did it’s not one’s business not going to lie some fans are too much since 2016
SMe
jack sounds like a walking red flag. i’m heartbroken for gabbie :( i couldn’t imagine going through this. i wish her all the best & more healing to come
U obviously haven’t read other comments
There is no proof tho
What if Jack wanted to talk about his side of the story,but couldn't because of the lawsuit with the management the boys are going through.
@@armystay4life299 the boys have problems with their managers?
i think shes lying about some parts, during the time he apparently wasnt helping her with her pregnancy was also the time they were being slaved by their manager so yeah
Jack was way too immature bro ☠️☠️ the way he treated her verbally seems so disgusting, and he was like 19 acting like that? sickening & hilarious. Gabbie honestly deserved better, it makes me so sad how clueless she was to how terrible & unhealthy of a relationship it was ): & how she genuinely wanted to just have a good life with him b4 she was self aware. it’s so great that she’s living her life rn with her husband & Lav🫶 ofc I don’t know Jacks side of the story, but how can u try & defend him with manipulating her to not wearing a condom & that it’ll be okay? this whole mess wouldn’t have happened without that situation ..
I’m so happy she shared this. I can’t imagine how difficult this experience has been and the pain and trauma that came with it. That’s a lot for a teenager to go through but I’m so glad she had supportive family and friends there for her. She is so brave and strong and her resilience is so inspirational. I wish her and her baby all the best ❤️
I don't understand how people can still defend Jack when Gabbie just made a whole 2 hours and half live explaining the whole situation, and what Jack did? nothing, cause he's wrong! he's the one wrong, Gabbie did nothing, she was an adolescent, she didn't knew what was going to happen, and Jack was already 18 or even more!!!!!!!!!! I love how Jack stans let down their morals to defend a man they don't even know. Ok I don't know gabbie either, but she have proofs, Jack didn't even talked about the situation 🤷♀️🤷♀️
i couldn't watch the live when she was live and now that i've watched it, i feel rly bad for gabbie.
i don't want to take anyone's side, but this is actually rly sad.
I agree and in my opinion the emotion on her face and in her voice really makes me believe she's been through a lot so to me it really seems like she's not lying and I really didn't want to believe it because i wanted to believe jack is a good person but I'm really starting to think he's not
He might want to talk about it, but can't. Him and the boys are still under lawsuit with the management.
I love jack so much BUT I’m not surprised he has acted like this, it sounds very typical boy act, they can act a certain way and it’s fine but as soon as the girl does it’s wrong
@Ashley Stillmank she was literally a MINOR and he had a baby with her .
I'm extremely proud of her for speaking up ! And yes, I do believe her side of the story to be true. She also mentioned how Jonah, Daniel, and Zach's family was extremely supportive towards her and so I don't think they would support a liar instead of their own son's band-mate. She said Anna Seavey is still really good friends with her and that just proofs that Gabbie was probably wronged.
Also, don't get me started on how she should've kept this to herself. Jack's mom started this and bashed her first.
I get what Jack did might have been wrong, but don't blame him for what his family does. He can't control them.
@@armystay4life299 yes he can't controle what they say or do but there is still way to many things he did himself, he is a fucking grown ass man, he was 19 yo ffs, he needs to take more responsibility as a father insteda og blaming it on Gabbie, and if he doesn't he should of used fucking protection like a decent human being.
@@natasavucenovic1319 ok 1 stop swearing so much 2 I wasn't saying he didn't do anything I was talking abt how people are putting what his mom said on him
@@armystay4life299 I agree but I also think if he wanted his mom to stay silent she would've. From what I hear from this video (and I am not confirming/saying its factual, I just don't know why Gabbie would lie) his mom would do anything for him and if it is as simple as staying quiet over social media for his sake then she would listen to him in a heartbeat.
I'm also extremely proud of her for speaking up! And Yes I still do believe her side of the story to be true but she is really deeply upset by it though cuz i'm watching it and i think she's proves herself that Gabbie was right about this and i'm on full support her all the way but she is not lying to anyone and i really do feel so sorry for her cuz she is actually a kind and a sweetheart woman ❤️👠❤️ 👠
it took me like three days collectively to watch this whole live. it's crazy the stuff she's been through. i'm glad she was able to move on from that toxic relationship.
yeah i watched half last night i accidently fell asleep and had to rewatch the last 1hour i didn't see bc it was a lot but it's good she can talk, girl has been silent since 16
@@sarahjohnsonj06 so true and i feel bad for her
lmao it took me 3 days too
I haven’t watched it and I don’t think I’m going to. Everything I’ve seen and heard I feel like is the jist of what I need to know and when I had someone explain it to me I felt like I couldn’t breathe and I don’t want to go through that for 2 hours
i just sat here and watched the whole thing in one sitting. LOL. i feel so incredibly bad for her
All I can say, is shes fucking amazing. All the crap shes been through, all the things she had to take, and she is an amazing mother today. She should never apologize for setting boundaries, for protecting herself or her child.
Edit: of course the wdw account had to repost only Jacks post with Lavander to make him seem like a great guy 💀
yes because her putting her 2 year old around a man who made jokes about child molestation makes her a great mom
@Ny Mendes if that was Jack, she had no say in that. By law Lavander has to see Jack, and Jack has a lot more money then Gabbie has
@@gracerobbins8505 yeah well jack has never put his child in harms way unlike some people who want to marry a 30 year old man who made jokes about child molestaton
@@nylawinston915 because he hasn't done one specific bad thing , that negates all the bad things he's done? you sound like a 10 yr old , or you at least have the maturity and emotional intelligence of one
he is a great dad, he tries, hes battling his old manager too, yes what he did THEN was wrong but atleast hes trying
How can a woman be at fault when a the boy is the one who got her pregnantand didnt even wanted to use protection at the first place. Make it make sense.
i hope Gabbie’s and Lavenders futures are good for them, they deserve the world.
it makes me so sad i feel so bad for gabbie’s parents, plus her they did nothIng wrong, just thinking about the situation of them being at the pool and them trying and his mom not because she isn’t comfy and saying their taking her away /: like
what else is there to do? people like that you can’t ever please them ..
Im actually so happy that she had said something!! I genuinely thought that these people were so sweet and nice and that theyve been through everything, but seeing how gabbie isnt holding back to talk about the behind the scenes, really changed my perspective. I will fully support gabbie!!
she truly is a strong woman and lavender is gonna be an amazing woman when she grows up bc of this, like genuinely jack is not who he portrays to be and its crazy to me that theres still people who believe shes lying. i really just wanna hug gabby
Jack may want to talk about his side of the story,but can't. Him and the boys are still under lawsuit with the management. Do even if he wanted to talk about it he probably couldn't.
She deserves the best she does so much for lavender and makes sure she knows her dad which is important I feel like a child shouldn’t have to be going through something like this but Gabbie is doing a great job of protecting her and making sure she is seen as what she’s worth
I hope people don't try and say Gabbie should keep this off the internet. It's clear she wanted to handle it offline originally, but is now forced to come online and defend herself because fans don't know when to butt out. Please leave her alone. Being a single mom is hard enough, and it's pretty obvious she's doing an incredible job so far (and you really can't disagree with that even if you're on "Jack's side" because he's said himself that she's a great mom to Lav).
And most definitely please don't try and say there's not a double standard here because there is. If Gabbie ever posted a picture with so much as a glass of wine in her hands, y'all would rip her to shreds. But Jack's "so cool" for posting blunts all over his instagram. I'm not saying he's a bad dad, but if y'all aren't going to come at him for that post, then you have absolutely no right to say anything to Gabbie.
Also, you can understand that Jack's been through and lot and still recognize that Gabbie has as well. You can explain Jack's actions as a result of his own abuse-- which very well may be true-- but an explanation isn't the same thing as an excuse. He still needs to be held accountable and learn and grow. It's actually dangerous to his well being if you all keep excusing his (or any of the boys') bad behavior-- they can't grow if they don't recognize what they're doing is wrong. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'm not asking for anyone to send him hate. I've been a fan of wdw since the beginning, and part of that is realizing that they are all HUMAN. They make mistakes. So do I, so do all of you. Making mistakes isn't the issue. It's whether or not you learn from them.
so very well said
this is so well put together, i love jack and gabbie for different reasons, gosh this is so accurate
I find it absurd that you want to defend Jack just for being Jack, understand that I'm not on either side, I don't know both stories, but there are girls who have him so idealized to the point that it becomes sick. Leaving Lavander aside, listen to the whole story and understand that his way of acting is manipulative, abusive, and toxic. Let's not go into details of his mother, his family, and so on. I've been in this fandom since literally the beginning, I went on their first-ever tour, and since then I've heard different stories of manipulation from all the guys (except Daniel). It is absurd that sorority is promoted everywhere, but when it comes to idols, this concept is completely forgotten.
Gabbie also shouldn’t have said anything, like u guys completely put the blame on Gabbie, not only that, Jack may couldn’t see Lavender for Christmas
For real!!! Daniel is the best lol
What about Jonah?
@@ivanavenegas2269 I don’t think he was good bc Tate posted on tiktok saying it wasn’t good
@@blackhole7909 LOL WDYM BRO ARE WE NOT GONNA TALK ABT HOW GABBIE WAS A MINIOR AND JACK WAS AN ADULT ?!
You're an angel. I just watched all 2 hours 30 minutes. I was one of the biggest why don't we fans and fans of Jack ever since they announced the band (until around last year). I actually cannot comprehend he and his family did this to you and the fact that you explained the situation without EVEN ONCE EVER SAYING you don't like them is utterly mind-boggling. I don't care if you say you don't like them in your personal life but if I was you, even on a live like this, there is no chance in hell I would've gone through it without at least mentioning once how much I despise them. My wishes are with you and Lavender Gonzalez and from the bottom of my heart, I'm truly sorry that someone like you had to deal with such a disgusting, toxic situation.
The most shocking part of this to me was the whole thing about Randy, I’m extremely concerned that the boys are being so manipulated that even they can’t see that Randy isn’t this “saving grace” that he’s being idolized as right now. Gabbie is obviously being super honest in her experience with him and everything she’s saying lines perfectly up with his past…
Who's Randy?
@@lizethbojorquez4769 he’s there manager
She moved to Hawaii because she is a woman with thoughts and feelings who loves surfing and the beach and wanted to be in some place where she felt happiness. If jack wanted to see his daughter that badly than he could’ve packed all his shit got on a plane to Hawaii and lived there. A daughter should mean more than a career. It’s really hard to hear all of this I’ve been a fan of why don’t we for a few years now but he should really start understanding that Gabriela is a human and is trying her very best to keep everyone happy. The fact that his family says she keeps lavender away from him is so fucking bizarre to me. Shes done a great job raising up lavender and I bet jack has too. I hope the best for all three of them
Agree but i think since you've heard only one side of the story ur biased towards gabby. And honestly why should he. They can just figure it out just as easily. Its wrong to hate on Gabby AND jack both because they're both parents of lav and its abiut time both sides grew up and figured it out privately instead of going on sm amd saying shitty stuff about each other on internet where their daughter can one day see what happened
In my opinion keeping a child away from his dad is that when she had been moved to Europe or Asia or something widely far away from where jack lives and refusing that Jack can see his daughter at all. But in another way it's none of our business...
Why should he have to pack all his stuff? Is it not a 50/50 relationship? You seem kinda biased. Just because "she is a woman with thoughts and feelings" she automatically gets to pick where they live and he automatically has to adjust?
@@hmmtea7438 I’m not saying that at all. What I’m trying to say is that jack isn’t really allowing her to have some flaws here. She moved for him at one point and all he really did was party. I completely support both of them and their decisions. I just find it a little strange how jack has cancelled many times to fly up to Hawaii and once Gabriela tries to do it cause she’s sick he’s pissed at her and starts getting thrown by his family. I’ve only heard Gabrielas story that’s true but I’ve seen the tweet his mom tweeted about gabby and all the shit she said about her. I feel empathy towards both people here. It’s a very hard and messing situations I’m really not trying to sound like I’m taking sides here but I’m truly not Gabbie has done a lot of shit just like Jack has. They are both growing and trying to find who they truly are
@@honeybuzzinsoo I agree that they should keep it a private thing for sure. Also guys I’m not picking a side I’m just saying that it’s crazy what has been said to her that’s all.
Honestly like she said about The Man, a dad just being a decent human being and taking care of their child is praised and kept on a high horse BUT if a single mother were to do that, it is considered meh, it is her job after all like wth. Gabbie has been through it all so people thinking she shouldn't say anything that is is just pure stupidity I am sorry but it is the truth, sometimes it takes YEARS to find this kind of closure to actually talk about a shitty period in your life, and honestly if Jack gets to choose his path and gets to move the fuk on so does she. Jack's mom should've NEVER come in between their matter, being a band member and a dad is tough I get it, but you cant have it all good, get to be in the band and have your daughter with you by sending the person doing it a text that is beyond grotesque but lets not talk about that. If he wants to meet Lav he can do things he is a parent it is NOT always the mom's job cuz it tool both of them the make Lav so taking care of her and being for her is both their jobs not just Gab's
the double standards are so real in this society
he cant really control what his family does tho. like I get what he did might've been wrong, but don't blame him for his families actions.
@@armystay4life299 stop defending him. As much as we love the boys. He messed up! I don’t blame him for his family’s actions but I do bc if he really cared he would’ve stopped his family from making all those comments while with Gabbie and after they broke up. As much as he listened to them while being with her, he should’ve just put boundaries up and told his family to stop. He’s a grown ass man! I don’t understand why he was listening to his mom when he’s the one that had the baby. Not only that but he legit gave and is still giving his family everything but when he decided not to wear protection he still put his family over the girl he got pregnant. He chose to listen to his family, he chose not to tell them anything when they were bashing Gabbie, he chose to put them over her when he’s the one that messed up, these are all his actions and there’s more where he could’ve stepped up as a father of THEIR child.
@@ashleymendoza38 I can defend him if I want and we don't know both stories. And ask that matters is he is stepping up now.
@@armystay4life299 okay yeah we might not know both sides of the story but what I do know is that if she was lying nobody from the boys family’s and/or some of their friends would be supporting her or defending her. Its funny how everyone supported Christina and Tate when they spoke out about what they felt while dating the guys yet when Gabbie felt confident enough to say something bc of the girls, everyone bashes her and talks bad about her. Also put yourself in her shoes for a bit, if you were forced to keep everything a secret from dating him to having his child, wouldn’t you be pissed. She was so young and thought the way he was treating her was love. They put so much pressure on her to hide her pregnancy, you don’t think that mentally drains you? I would’ve spoken out too if I was her. It’s always girls supporting girls until your favorite male artist is put into the mix.
I'm glad she spoke about this. I dont agree with the "she should've kept this in private" because when injustices like these happen, its important to talk about them and it gets tiring to be going through this behind the scenes. I hope gabbie and lav can be happy and safe.
I am so sorry that she had to go through this. No one should be treated that way. She is such an incredible mother and person. So proud of her for speaking up and her strength. ❤
i cried half way listening i feel so bad for her that it just to be so public but also on both sides either one did wrong but nobody should shame her or jacks way of parenting that's private and nobody should treat lav like a object she is a child they have and isn't something to be thrown around like a bean bag
I know this is off topic but profile pic supremacy
@@namirahc5918 yes ik i love harry styles ik off topic but thanks 🦋
Even if we don't have Jack's side of the story, I believe Gabbie. There is no reason why she should've gone through the things she did. If he had ANY human decency, he would've stood up for her no matter what, even if he had fallen out of love with her/didn't love her in the first place. Standing back and letting people throw threats and tell the mother of your unborn child to abort the baby and not say anything is just wrong. Of course they were gonna have problems in the future because he didn't stand up for her against his mom or anyone who was showing their true colors towards Gabbie. I bet if he would've told certain people to back off, he would've made co-parenting easier for Gabbie and himself. And she wouldn't of had to explain her side of the story in the first place.
She is so super strong for speaking up about this incredibly awful situation. Gabbie is amazing and she has the right to speak her truth. I really hope that Gabbie and Lav have a wonderful life because they truly deserve it.
Girl you are so strong!! Look into narcissistic abuse.. I got out of a marriage where I was being physically, mentally and emotionally abused as well as cheated on, manipulated and gaslit for so long and I stayed silent even after I left him for our son. Now my son is 17 and very very much like his father which scares the crap out of me. Your situation sounds so familiar.. please protect yourself and educate yourself as much as possible on narcissism and you will regain all your power back from him. I promise you with some time and help it is possible! I feel for you and your baby! Just know you’re a lot stronger than you give yourself credit for and you are not alone!
"He never laid a hand on me". He coerced a young girl who didn't know any better to not use protection and possibly committed stealthing. That's sexual assault, and instead of having him arrested and career ruined they let the father of their future daughter/granddaughter get off free. And in return his family threatens to take Lavender away from her so that she'll go out of her way to do things for them. I'm so sad for all her and her family have went through. Yes Jack has gone through shit too but that doesn't invalidate what she went through.
She was not "coerced" what are you even talking about? At 16 most know about protection, I think you underestimate young girls.
@@_notmyproblem_ Exactly so much has been done and they have so much room to grow. I wish they left this mess private.
@@hmmtea7438 How hard is it for you to understand? She wanted to use condoms. He told her no, told her it would be fine if she didn’t and not to use bc either, and basically that he wouldn’t have sex w protection. That is coercion point blank
@@_notmyproblem_ Even if all of that is true, it doesn’t take away from the fact that she’s been abused and threatened. I’m not trying to say either of them are completely innocent. She deserves some compassion rn
@@JuliaJiggs she could've said no to sex point blank. The only thing hard to understand is your crappy typing.
She has a point its NO ONES business how her and Jack deal with Lav and their split I love Jack and I love Gabbie and as a Limelight I am not taking sides it is wrong for limelights and people who aren't part of this family to butt their noses where it doesn't belong. the overall thing is MIND YOUR OWN GODDAMN BUSINESS THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DO LIVES TO EXPLAIN ABOUT LAV AND THE SHIT THEY GO THROUGH SHE IS GOING THROUGH A ROUGH TIME AND FRANKLY SO IS JACK THEY BOTH ARE UNDER STRESS GABBIE WITH EVERYONE BOTHERING HER AND BEING ASSES ABOUT LAV AND THE FACT THAT EVERYONE ISN'T LEAVING HER ALONE AND HER CAREER. JACK WITH HIS CAREER, THE SHIT THAT WENT DOWN WITH RANDY, THIS SHIT WITH GABBIE, THIS SHIT WITH LAVENDER SO ONCE AGAIN MY OVERALL POINT IS MIND YOUR OWN GODDAMN EVER LOVING BUSINESS THIS IS BETWEEN GABBIE AND JACK IT DISGUST ME THAT PEOPLE BEEN BOTHERING HER AND HIM SO MUCH THAT IT LED HER TO DO THIS LIVE AND MIGHT LEAD TO HIM DOING ONE TOO YA'LL HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THEM AND YA;LL NEED TO GET IT. I've seen so many comments and only some of them are valid YA'LL NEED TO START SUPPORTING THEM BOTH BECAUSE TAKING SIDES IS RIDICULOUS AND IT DOESN'T HELP SHIT GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER AND INSTEAD OF COMING AT EACH OTHER BECAUSE SOMEONE IS PROTECTING JACK OR BECAUSE SOMEONE IS PROTECTING GABBIE FUCKING SUPPORT BOTH JEEZ YALL ARE PUTTING THEM UNDER MORE STRESS THAN THE OVERALL SITUATION WITH LAV IS DAMN SO AGAIN MIND YOUR BUSINESS OR SUPPORT BOTH BECAUSE IF GABBIE THINKS JACK IS RUINING HER LIFE OR HE THINKS SHES RUINING HIS THEY ARE BOTH WRONG THE FANS AND PEOPLE POSTING SHIT ABOUT GABBIE OR ABOUT JACK ARE THE ONES RUINING THEIR LIVES YALL MAKIN IT HARD FOR THEM AND YALL NEED TO STOP.
IKR! you just explained everything I needed to! Like seriously why in the world do people need to butt in its not there relationship! Gabbie and Jack are already going through so so much stress and anxiety each of them with there own problems! LIKE WHY DO PEOPLE TAKE SIDES? I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND JACK IS GOING THROUGH THE SAME AMOUNT OF ANXIETY AS GABBIE SO ITS KINDA UNFAIR FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE SIDES! Yes Jack might have don't some shitty things in the past BUT SO DID GABBIE THERE NOT PERFECT I SUPPORT BOTH GABBIE AND JACK NO MATTER THERE FLAWS. Like there already going through so much and people just take Gabbies story and add false bites and pieces to it UNTIL THE HOLE THING IS FALSE! LIKE SOME LIMELIGHTS ARE FORCING JACK TO TELL HIS SIDE OF THE STORY BUT CURRENTLY HE CANT, HE IS IN A GODDAMN LAWSUIT WHY DONT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND! at this point I'm genuinely concerned about Gabbie and the bands future, I really hop things get sorted out sooner or later because with the things Corbyn and Jack have done, I really don't know how much longer they can last as a bad and I can't even believe saying this right now. People need to mined there own business and stop butting in
@@atefehasadi6096 perfectly said
Hell yeah
Guys for those who say Jack needs to speak up for himself know that he CANT. Please keep in mined that the boys are still in a lawsuit with the management and if he wanted to he couldn't. And pluse I just don't understand why some people think they have control over Jack and Gabbie, like they DONT you can't say what they need to do or what they can't to or what to say and what not to say or how they should parent lav etc. It's their choice what to do and not ours.the boys and Gabbie have been going through a lot and I mean ALOT with all their problems know that they aren't perfect they have there own flaws, we all have are own flaws and the last thing the boys and Gabbie want is being judged by the people who they have never met before telling them the things they do wrong. Like it's their choice, it's their lives we can't just step in and pretend like nothing ever happened. They're human beings with feelings that can get hurt sometimes with what people say. For gods sake please stop hating on Gabbie or any of the boys
Finally a comment which is actually considering both the sides and not hating on either.
Ikr, like people r getting mad and taking full side of Gabbie
I was so hurt when people were saying that they won't support Jack. I'm so happy you said this because this comment calmed me down just now. And yes, I'm still aware about them and their crusty ass management. I hope everyone is okay.
@@ZoeyHope It hurt too, neither Jack or Gabbie deserve to be hated, yes they might have done wrong in the past but if you ask me no one deserves hate, there's also an actual chiled we're dealing with here so I think they need to sort things out in private and yes I do truly hope everyone is doing ok
@@blackhole7909 I bet if Jack spoke up and not Gabbie, they would take full sides of Jack, this fandom is INSANE ( not in a mean way, in a friendly way, I love all the limelights out there )
Girls never agree when a man takes off condom mid sex that's ASSAULT,
Just wanna on touch of the fact that she gets destroyed for moving to Hawaii… she moved because she can, not to take lavender away from jack, because he certainly has the chance to see her whenever he wants, she shouldn’t have to stop her life for this guy who isn’t putting in any effort, if he really wanted to see her so bad he would go out of his way (just like she does) to see his daughter
He also has the money to go see her and he could always move
Why does he have to go out of the way? Shouldn't they just compromise?
@@hmmtea7438 did you even watch it? She talked about how she flies there every other month with lav to allow jack to see her. But jack cancels last minute every time its his turn to come to Hawaii. She literally said that she was too sick to travel one time and jack texted her with “I don’t care if you are sick, i want you get on that damn plane and bring her” or something. Bruh, smh
@@thriiibuzzing8052 but them saying that he should go out of his way isn't fair either. Plus she isn't really all that exciting so no I did not watch all of that boring video.
One of the bigger reasons she got attacked for moving to Hawaii is because of the problem with Native Hawaiians being pushed out of their rightfully owned land into poverty for tourism etc
my heart hurts for her. her and lavy deserve the world.
Stop being biased
@@blackhole7909 you clearly didn't watch the video fully.
I admire her courage for being able to divulge 5 years worth of trauma and abuse to the internet. QUEEN ENERGY ✨
im glad to finally hear her telling what happened but also her sweater is amazing. i need it
“I know some nasty women, I’ll be talking about a few” idk why but this sentence just made me love her more.
I agree they should've handle this offline specially because there is a child involved BUT Jack's mom started tweeting things about Gabbie taking Lav away from her dad and the whole fandom started going at Gabbie on social media, besides, I started liking WDW this year and seeing some fan accounts yall seem to have an opinion on how they should raise their own kid and choose to hate on Gabbie as if you knew her, Jack and their co-parenting situation. I'm sure both of them made mistakes and I'm glad Gabbie is standing up for herself. I hope they can come together for Lav's well being and they can come up with a beneficial solution for all parts.
PS. If the management was capable of mistreating the boys I can't imagine how they treated their gfs specially if one of them got pregnant. Randy has a horrible reputation too, they should not stay w him.
Don't blame Jack for what his family does. He can't control them.
Girlies, I am 24 now and if I could tell my 15 year old self anything it would be: if he’s pressuring you to do ANYTHING you are uncomfortable with, dump his ass. Not even sliiiightly worth it, put yourself first loves. ❤️
THIS!! My teenage self didn't realize anything, I just wanted to be loved. My adult self looks back with so much sadness and regret.
this makes me feel safe and not alone, i hate that i thought i needed to be intimate or else he would leave me.. i regret it so much
I agree. Younger me definitely wanted to be loved by people, no matter how good or bad they treated me. Now I know better than to stay in a situation where I’m being walked all over on
everyone is posting sides but im taking both sides. They both are going through things (work, themselves) and a child- like they both have their struggles and i bet a million dollars theyve both been in the wrong before. they still have a daughter who loves both of them and needs both of them in their lives and posting on social media will just increase the drama and pressure that they dont need. at the end of the day, they just need to communicate with each other to be ok. sometimes it doesnt work out but thats not for us to discriminate them for. all we should do is hear their sides of the story and accept that they are adults who should be mature and do what they need to do, especially for their daughter. i hope they figure things out for lavender to see them both 💜
I agree, they both have their flaws, I just think Gabbie shouldn't have said anything on social media, I'm kinda glad Jack stayed more silent about things and I hope he keeps it that way.
@@KAYYMARIE_ the boys cant really say anything if u look at this and the cristina situation none of the boys said anything instead they put out a pr thing
I completely agree!
@@KAYYMARIE_ gabbie had every right to tell her truth on HER platform, especially when jack's mom said that stuff abt her
@@KAYYMARIE_ i hope so to but it's definitly gonna be hard after this cause now he got more people coming at his neck i just hope this gets better for lavs sake if not their own
I’m so proud of her!! She’s been through so much, and she deserves the world. I can’t believe she was just treated this way, it’s unfair! And I want her to know she’s safe, so many people are here for her, and she is such a great mom to lavender 💜 I wish her so much love and support, Gabbie is so strong! 🥺😭❤️
Jack not using a condom is a huge red flag 🚩. Him saying you would never get pregnant also is a red flag 🚩. Dang.
I love you for who you are be you be happy that is good but you are the greatest woman ever and mom to don't let commets bring you down I love you and you are a tellligant woman
Love her alone she is beautiful woman
@@leannecarlson5195 I am not gabby.
Also like taking it off mid sex👀
so glad to hear her parents/family is so supportive
Honestly this breaks my heart, Gabbie really went through a lot. You can also see jack wouldn’t have done what he did if it wasn’t for his living environment 🙁 It’s very obvious his mom made him think that way in everything
I love both Jack and Gabbie. I love Why don’t we, but does that mean i’m gonna defend them for the stuff they’ve done? No, absolutely not. Gabbie is so strong and i’m proud of her
They way she differentiated between the kind of bruise...
Felt it on a whole different level 💜💜
jacks Mom is the second yolanda hadid
HAHAHA
I love that she finally told her story. Good for you! I love that the other boys supported her too!
Gabriella Gonzales your family is so so nice 😊 and kind 😊
I always thought this situation was sketchy and gabby was holding back from telling her truth. So glad she finally got all of this off of her chest. Love her💕💕
I really want to give her a hug 😕
Gabbie im so sry babes. You are so brave. Thank you for tells us. I really thought they good people. Thank you for telling us the truth. Your amazing and didn't deserve any of this. I'm so sry you had to go through this for 4-5 yrs. I love you so much for being brave. Your a really good person. I hate you went through it. ❤
I’m reading all the coments and I’m so glad people are finally getting it thru there heads that gabbie is trying her hardest and receives so much hate for being a mother when Jack gets nothing because girls are just obsessed with him. I honestly can’t believe she had to go thru this. My heart goes out to her🥺❤️
U just siding Gabbie at the moment bc u get to hear her story, plus stop putting Jack in the bad light
@@blackhole7909 I’m not putting jack in the bad light I’m just saying she gets more hate because she’s the ex of a band member so obviously limelight’s are going to be on jacks side. It’s just like with any celebrity after they break up usually the girl gets more hate so just chill with the whole ‘putting jack in the bad light’🙄
@@makayla794 Actually you kinda are putting him in the bad light
@@armystay4life299 well that’s your opinion love
@@makayla794 not if ur actually doing it
I feel for her because my the father of my child and his family does the same exact thing!!!
I'm officially just following 4/5 members of whydontwemusic cause of this thanks a lot jack Avery I'm on Gabby Gonzalez's side for this story who else
this is coming from a person who used to have a wdw fan page, this is in no way okay. Jack and his mom made her life so miserable and that shouldn’t just be ignored. She was underaged and was token advantage of people she didn’t stand up for herself (not like that would of stopped management). She was also silenced like the boys so she has every right to say her side of the story, I admired Jack but this is so not okay and there should be consequences.
1:11:57 this reminds me of fiona from shameless when she’s like “yes! it’s about me, because i’m finally making it about me!” and i love that so much
I'm so heartbroken over this, but not surprised. You can hear the pain, frustration, and anger in her eyes. I'm so sorry Gab :(.
Maturing is realizing she is right cmon limelight’s
People should learn to let celebrities or other people in general live their lives and don’t judge based on that little information they have. I like wdw and their songs and I will continue listening to them and let them live their lifes the way they want to. It’s not our position to judge!
I'm praying for you Gabbie! Keep voicing your side of the story and being strong ❤❤
i used to be 12 and brainwashed by them. Now I'm 16 and I am in love with Gabby after this video.
I CLICKED SO FAST ISTG-
Literally me 🤣
Believe the victim, even if they are lying why would you believe someone who is possibly an abuser over someone who is most likely saying the truth about what they as a person went through
The way gabbie talks about her father and family, makes u believe that this lady is so pure and full of love .
I'm so disappointed in Jack, I can't believe what he did to Gabbie.I wanted to cry because of everything gabbie said I want to hug her right now😢gabbie look and don't feel guilty for getting pregnant, you knew absolutely nothing, so don't blame yourself, if the one who is to blame is Jack Jack everything you did to him, how could you!gabbie you are a great mom to lavender, lavender is so lucky to have you as a mom
I left the fandom soon as their new era started . I have a family of my own and the fact Jack treated the mother of his child this way sickens me. My husband and his family never did this kinda crap. I heard on insta she is getting lawyers and with her case it will be an easy win with possible phone call audio as well as Anna as witness and phone messages . Why don’t we more like Why don’t we take accountability 😡
I like what she said and I cryed
I can't Believe they Did that to her
Also can I just call out the "fans" real quick who only like girls who are close with wdw and then as soon as they aren't anymore, start hating on them and bullying them. Cuz, NEWS FLASH, letting a man determine which women you like and don't like isn't "women supporting women." It's misogyny in disguise.
I feel so bad for what Gabbie had to go through
i am so sorry for her
Bro- but the fact Jack got Gabbie pregnant when she was underaged and he was overaged, my jaw dropped, I can’t believe he did that it hurts to see Gabbie in pain
He was 19 and she was 17 when lav was born and they knew each her since they were 14 and 16. Weird because gabbies parents were okay with their relationship and would even have him visit them in Florida. There’s pictures of him at their house still on Lisa (gabbies mom’s Instagram). Since the age gap is only 2 years, there’s not much that can be done since in CA the relationship has to be more than 3 years between minor and adult for it to be a an actual pursuable case. In Florida they’re relationship was completely legal and protected because of Romeo and Juliet laws since their age gap once again is not wide enough.
Can’t get over the fact that she was a minor and Jack wasn’t when she got pregnant. Ffs why did everyone side with Jack
He basically assaulted her since removing the condom with the others consent is considered rape. I can’t imagine what she had to go through and I’m glad she is able to tell everyone what had happened to her.
Gabbie had to speak out her own truth I love why don’t we and don’t get me wrong I adore jack but gabbie has a right to speak out her side of the story too, I hate how men does stuff wrong and everyone don’t hate on them. But when a girl does something wrong she’s gets a ton of hate.
I feel so bad for her man like so many hate on her because they are huge fans of Why don’t we and Jack and thinks his an angel and he’ll never do things like this but his hiding in his fame and doesn’t wanna own up to it
im a fan a wdw jack use to be my fav but after hearing this it shattered my heart and im on gabbies side
@@natalee988 yeah I used to be a major fan as well till I heard this but I can definitely see Jack doing these things I feel so bad for her and lil Lav
@@cindytonna2491 i can too tbh its so sad lav and gabbie deserve better
“girls supporting girls” y’all are squashing her! she has been hated silenced and you guys are so- a 16 year and a now like 20 year old is sacrificing her life for jack! gabbie is doing this for her daughter she is stfu because she wants lavender and herself to be safe! jack is a celebrity so he thinks and you guys think hes the shit. hes not jack sounds like a horrible person! omg im so mad at him rn! what in the actual fuck! gabbie is the single mom and got pregnant at 16 and she’s been getting hated on since they split up. shes been abused and silenced im done with why don’t we
I feel so bad for her, she deserves happiness, and now I’m seeing how jack rlly is with these kind of thing.
This is so sad and she’s not the only girlfriend that has a story to she’s so far the bravest one to speak out against and I can’t wait for girls like Tate or Zach ex speak bc I know they said they had bad experiences
Social media is not always what it seems to be. The pain and hurt she must have gone through is horrible. I am just so glad that Anna and keri and her family were there to support her. Jack's family aka his mum and him are so manipulating. It is disgusting that some people will still defend them.
Peopem always think they now everything when they don't. Lavender should have a better father were he arrives on time to visiting hours and were her own father doesn't call her mother nasty names. No human being should ever go through this. And I am sorry but how is Jack supposed supposed take custody of lav if he is always going to be on tour?
I suggest that people watch the whole thing. Obviously she left some stuff out which to some people might seem confusing and also because it's a lot for her at the moment and they are going through some legal stuff which means she can't say to much. I AM SO PROUD OF HER ❤
And jack Avery is so so cool and dope 😊
I’m so happy that Jonah’s family could be like a second family for her wall in Minnesota
I love Gabriella so much
most of the fandom is at most, sixteen. those who are defending jack have either 1) never experienced an abusive relationship or 2) have had the fortune to have never been a teenage mother, or just a mother in general. it’s funny to see people who are like twelve accusing gabbie of lying or defending jack like they have a child or they have been in a relationship. lmfao.
Have you had a child? Also I hope most of them have never been a teen mother it's not a good look.
I'm glad she finally got this out. Its important. And I'm gonna be honest this doesn't change my opinion on Jack...I still love him. But I also (I always have) love Gabbie and this is something that I'm so happy she was finally comfortable doing.
so ur choosing to ignore everything abt him bring toxic and abusive…?
what to said about still loving jack is the perfect example of male privilege. people always ignore these things when it’s a man involved. he literally abused, gaslit, manipulated and bullied gabbie while she was still a child, what is wrong with you?
Damn, she held ALL THAT in for all these years?! Poor girl.
Lavender is an angel and I’m glad she has such a good mom. Jack needs to grow up
jack needs to grow up but gabbie was the one moving to hawaii to keep jack away from lav, ignoring him when it was time for him to pick her up, complaining about being away from lav when jack had her for the first time in a year? yeah ok keep defending a liar
@@nylawinston915 ok whatever keep being angry
@@FantasyGirl365 yeah i am going to be mad when someone is lying about another person who hasnt done anything
@@nylawinston915 lol you must be one of Jack’s obsessive fans and you can’t see that Gabby is being genuine. Lots of other people here in this comment section agree and believe her, so why do you keep bugging me about it? Please go get a life, bye 👋🏻
I feel so bad for her😭I support her and Christian 10000000%
Love _ everyone I want Gabbie Gonzalez to be with Christian Seavey so bad
@@mayganbinge5229 wtf
SO much respect!!💗
I'm on the verge of tears while watching this because she shouldn't have had to go through this I wish I could just give her a huge hug and tell her everything's gonna be ok and that there are so many people here for her
I agree lavender is not a thing,she is a person.
I’ve never hated Gabbie because I support celebrities and there relationships no matter who it is but hearing the stuff Jack done breaks my heart I know that nobody is perfect but I’m just not sure how I will get over that 🥺
I didn't really know what was going on cos I just recently became a limelight, but She's such a nice person and so strong♥️
Gab you are so remarkable and gorgeous woman to Mr. Jack Robert Avery. 👠👠
Half of these comments make me so angry. The limelight’s that are defending Jack and insulting Gabbie can’t give a good reason why they hate Gabbie rather than the fact that she was with Jack and had his baby. It’s so infuriating to see people say crap like “she should’ve kept it offline” when it’s those same people who insult her online for no reason. She has a right to stick up for herself against Jack’s family and trolls online.
So basically Jack was just pussy the whole time and scared of his mom disappointment since he is obviously as you can tell “the mama boy” and from you can tell he obv didn’t care or love you but I mean he did love you Gabbie but he was just wasn’t mature enough to make his decision and let his mommy do it and be the control of it. The mom was just an manipulative and narcissistic person. Oh and by the way I am so sorry for the way you got treated and that was not right for them to trying to take your child especially it’s not their concern and business. The only person that is only should be involved is jack and he knows that but obv didn’t get in his thick skull cause all he worried was about his family being disappointed in him.
Jack shouldn’t be partying around on his weeks,that’s not right. Gabbie shouldn’t have to do all of the work. I feel bad for Gabbie ever being hated on for all of this. Us fans shouldn’t be in there private business. Also jack shouldn’t act like that.
You are a good person ❤