Cool video. Please change Terry, this is too dirty. Keep a new one in a transparent plastic back while shooting it, so it doesn't get dusty. Remove bag after shooting to examine spaulding and booOoolet holes
the sad part is you cant claim it when you literally play it daily, i really should get a refund on my 15k hours in that game but at same time i really dont regret it.
This ammo has quite a mark up on it you would be at $5/ rnd for m993/ap8 and m995/ap3 for test quantity from the manufacturer. You need a longer barrel and longer range to compare the swiss p wcap as this is carries it's energy better than m993 or slap. There are equivalent rounds with some variations for eastern block ammo. And other material types. You would also find some interesting results if you separate the plates or add a separate cover plate. If you put m193 up against 1/4" plate then its likely to plug but the m855 will be stopped.
Idk if you ever mentioned that you were a 5.5 hour round trip from your house to your range. Wow. Thank you for the content and your dedication. Your vids are fun and enlightening. Much appreciated.
They are specialized rounds and should never be shot through a muzzle brake. A flash hider is ok as the slots are longitudinal. The ports of a brake are vertical and can intercept the Sabot. Not good for the follow up shot. Mark Serbu will attest to that. 50 cal in the face. 0.50 Cal SLAP through a MB. Second round bad. He is well, and advised. Praise God.
Whoa! You make my reloading hobby look better and better with your wake-up reminder of cartridge costs. I keep all of my firearms in a safe. Your wake-up call on true ammo costs tells me that I need another safe just for my ammo!
As an avid reloader, I can tell you if money savings is your reason, the cost will pretty much be the same, maybe less and could be even more. It all depends on your components you use. And thats the advantage to reloading. You get to choose your components. Just to give you an example. 9mm is cheaper to buy than it is to reload. Dont know how they do, but you can buy 1000 rnds of 9mm for about 230. Just the primers will cost you now anywhere from 110 to 150, the bullets will cost you around 100 for cheap bullets and the powder would be around 15. So add that up an for a 1000 rnds, with free brass taken from the range. You will spend probably at least 250. The bullets I buy for the range are about 11 cents each, but you can spend 30 to 50 cents each for better bullets..The advantage is I get to choose my load, my bullet and powder. I wouldnt trade my ammo for store bought because I know whats in it.
@@davidpryor7366 I like reloading most is that I can have powders here and pellets there, and and reload what ever cartridge suits the purpose. As opposed to 1000's of target rounds. My choir consists of .308, 300BO, .40SW, 38Sp/357 mag, and 12ga. Two powders support the lot. I can use useless .223 casings. Case split...
@@davidpryor7366 Your just not finding any deals then. I found 1000 124gr berrys 9mm bullets at cabelas for 80 some bucks out the door, 8 cents per primer, and dont remember what I paid for powder last time, probably around 40 bucks for a pound. So add up 80+80+40= 200 bucks for 1000 rounds plus enough powder left over for another 300-400 rounds.
@@bryanst.martin7134 Im with you on that. I do both, 9mm and 5.56 I load a lot of range ammo. Then there the other side with 6.5 creedmore, .308, 6mm arc, 30.30, 44 mag. If I could reload my own .22 lr, Id probably be loading that too.lol They would be tack driving rounds tho. I love CFE 223, that powder will do a lot. Not very temp stable tho. Other powders are more suited. The choice is what I like as well. I am still surprised you dont save money even using range brass.
@@Ntynn9999 He had a 50BMG blow up in his face and it sliced a large hole in either one of the jugular veins or one of the carotid arteries and he put his thumb in the hole to prevent a 30 second exsanguination.
To be fair that was because it was loaded with pistol powder that dialed the PSI to 11. SLAP in itself isn't that crazy plus banana here loads most of his own rounds so I doubt that kinda goof is likely to happen.
@@tristanwilkinson4720 Yes but also he had a muzzle brake on which is a terrible thing for slap rounds. Not a good combo of overloaded old rounds and potential for the sabot to get hung up causing a pressure spike.
I have been restless since your last video. Been through my garage, Work, stores etc looking for inspiration to replace the sand box. Wallah, found something consistent and cheap. Semi truck mud flaps, sliced into 4" square, layered and compressed in a vise.
Technically, the SLAP round isn't the most ridiculous round, I would say that title does to the experimental Pacific Technica 7.62 DUDS (depleted uranium discarding sabot). Oxide did a video on em.
There's a rifle round I was in a shop looking at quite the while ago where the rifle itself was absurdly cheap. I had to ask what the catch was. "The ammunition and the brass has been out of circulation for a long time." Oh? Sounds like a custom job then, I thought. Nope. The last 6 rounds that came with the rifle were $400 each. Not because it's good, just rare.
I had some late 70's early 80's isreali black tip 7.62x51 and it cut through 3/4" mild steel plate with a really needle sharp hardened tungsten core and lots of spalling of the copper jacket and lead filler. Picked em up for 60 cpr back when. They were fun as hell. I have some 1" mild steel plate hunks with a few of the cores stuck in it. Cool as hell
I picked up a new 38" Israeli .50 Bmg barrel years ago, that looked like a slightly overgrown 36" Aircraft barrel. I have had quite a number of .50 Bmg barrels, with numerous ones running in the 40" - 60" range... and none of them could come close to equaling what the 38" IMI barrel could achieve ballistically. With top loads with 700 and 750 gr. projectile weights... it could routinely reach the high 17,000 ft. lbs. of energy range and with the right projectile (750 grain PPI-AP) it could top out at 19,000 ft.lbs., of energy!
@@ohbeardedone9253 The 750 grain AP's were running 3,275+ with a full case of US -869 and the 703-708 grain AP's were running in the low 3,400 - 3,425 fps range with a full case of H-870. The pressures were too high for a normal (bolt or falling block) action but in this barrel those energies were achieved with only a very few occasions where slight primer leakage occurred and there were no blown primers. The PPI- AP projectiles were exceptional in this regard and in this barrel there were no indications of over pressure at full case capacity! It is important to note that this was a one of a kind barrel in terms of achievable muzzle energies and the loads noted where obtained after a significant level of throat erosion had occurred which would have mitigated the pressure levels reached. The action used utilized a threaded bolt with 2-3 times the barrel shank engagement of a standard barrel and the materials that were used had a much higher than normal ductile tensile range which may have undergone some level of work hardening... By the way...in order to find the muzzle velocities of a projectile of known weight...you can always multiply the energy by 450240 and then divide by the projectile weight and then take the square root of the result...which you may have already known.
"only a dollar a piece". That sir, is expensive for the average gun person, like myself. I bought 500 rounds of 7.62x51 and it was just over 500 with tax and bulk fee. I have yet to shoot a single round. BECAUSE IT'LL COST ME 30 DOLLARS TO SHOOT AN ENTIRE MAG!!! It'll be fun though, no doubt. Looking forward to it, actually in a wild way.
I was just telling someone about your ultimate barrier test. Question... have you tried the 50 BMG against the box of sand? I'd be interested to see how much sand it takes to stop the 50.
@@bananaballistics You did an excellent job matching the threat to the choice of targets in this video! You also did well moving to the new chronograph...I understand that they are very reliable! The chronograph results for the short barrel...50 BMG was very informative. Just a heads up... given the dramatically higher muzzle pressure in such a short barrel as evidenced by the Pressure-Time curve... even the use of both plugs and muffs is not adequate to prevent hearing loss with the .50! Even when normal 29" to 36" barrels are used Fifty Caliber Shooters Association technical people found that the muzzle brakes that are required caused not insignificant hearing loss with double protection! I have been a member since it's inception...until quite recently and I intend to re-up! Also, I did not see any notification indicating where I could leave a comment in the usual places! Please advise...
@@pewpewTN Yeah, even .50 BMG slap. Sand is just that OP and should really get nerfed next patch I believe 20x110mm (Hispano) had some sabot rounds designed and trialed that could’ve put up a good fight against the sand menace. But alas, people found that 20mm rounds are way better for delivering payload than kinetic penetration. So they were abandoned afaik It’d be interesting to see how 14.5x114mm would do. But that’s also a whole extra headache with the destructive device bs, since it’s definitely not a hunting cartridge like .950 and therefore isn’t exempt
My son in law has a .338 Lapua, and it is basically a safe queen since the cheapest ammo for it I have come across in my travels lately is at $124.99 per box of 20. Pretty sure that with a new baby, the daughter would grab him by the short arm and perform the hammer throw with him if he spent that much on 1 box of ammo right now.
@@craigmandall9420 I was just going to say many of our rifle rounds even for 270Win are $50 a box and even more for 7MM etc. I do hand loads for my 270 for accuracy and projectile. Not a huge savings. Insane accuracy out of my Tikka T3lite Stainless fluted barrel. .5 MOA at a 100yds.and 1" at 350yds.
That's pretty ridiculous, even in California a box of 20rd 338 lapua costs about 65 dollars, not cheap but it's about double a box of any standard 30 cal
The military already did this with the SLAP rounds, they used the 50BMG for a bit and developed some for the M60, but abandoned those as they caused “a series of catastrophic malfunctions” Also, the accelerators sucked unless handled with the utmost care as it was pretty easy to shift the projectile in the sabot and make your groupings open up to like 8’ at 50yds
Commentators below pointed out that the main problem with Tungsten is that it has no functional brizance, nor ignition function. Depleted Uranium is used for anti-tank, because it almost immediately ignites into a flaming spall after penetration (in oxygen). As such it also sets everything behind it, on fire. Tungsten is glass-hard and tends to have no spall from itself. DU is softer, and when penetrating it basically flows like butter through any soft metals, and those edges ignite. We used to model this hydrodynamic flow, and the main problem was that the DU blob ejected all of itself before penetrating. The additions of some kind of support structure, such as the aluminum cup (much softer) is intended to provide a sacrificial buffer so that the DU can get further into the structure. Tungsten has the same problems as the original Luger pistol, where the bullet just went cleanly though the target. As a result, warriors were able to fight on for hours, unless they lost a lot of blood, or had been hit in a disabling site. The Moro war earlier led to the move to a larger 45 round by the Marines, which had a one-hit disabling capability.
The nice thing about 50 BMG is you can buy armor piercing rounds, tracer and incendiary and a combination of them all in cheap surplus ammo. Plus ball and match rounds and RAFUS if you want to really go crazy.
I knew that SLAP went through like butter just watching it hit. I had zero doubt there would be a hole on the back without even any deformation around it. Just butter. Crazy.
You want SLAP rounds cheap? EABCO polymer accelerator. You’ll need the reloading adapters, but you could make seriously fast rounds out of any .30 round. 30-06 does a serious number on level 4.
It needs to be mentioned that your pacing and consistency is really admirable. Hats off to the editing, creating a brand. Impressive marksmenship as well of course.
Awesome video!! Some of these rounds are amazing and some of the results were surprising. Definitely appreciate Buffman Range and will be subscribing to them right after watching this video. 👍
FYI - I've shot standard .50 bmg AP rounds into 1.5" and 2" mild steel plate at 100 yds. It bores a hole clean through the 1.5" and either bulged the back or the penetrator sticks out the back on the 2" plate. Might be something your viewers would like to see, but I'd highly recommend using a full-length barrel rifle to get the most out of it. My is a Barrett M99 with the longer bull barrel.
Casual reminder that "tungsten" and "tungsten carbide" are not the same thing. Tungsten(or some aloy of it) is the meterial used in the rounds shown and is a metal. Tungsten carbide are bits you you see welded on the tips of saw blades and other such cuting instruments and is not a metal. They are different things with difrent properties and cannot be use interchangeably. Engineer out.
The results for raufoss m211 vs the SLAP makes sense to me. The raufoss is meant to pierce soft-armored or lightly-armored vehicles and detonate behind the armor, inflicting serious damage to the vehicle’s occupants. The SLAP is like a needle, it’s made for pure penetration but won’t cause nearly the same amount of chaos inside of a vehicle.
It would be nice to see if you could grind off the welds and look at the back of the first plate in front of the second plate. Those welds look pretty good btw.
Awesome video, that SLAP is crazy impressive. Why are the blurs censored? I heard about TH-cams new gun policy, but it just doesn't make any sense to me.
That's nuts, the M995 and 993 are the stuff of hype legend, but it's looking like overhyped legend now. The M938 result was insane, it's just a shame you can't use any muzzle devices with it.
The M993 is a Swedish ammo made by Bofors. I've tested it a lot for body armor protection. With that round the body armor gets to heavy to wear. In Sweden the army has ordered new combat rifles from Sako Finland and I could guess what ammo they are going to use.
You make the info very entertaining. Maybe spray paint your gel manikin in-between shots (like the target) so the debris impacts show up? Apparently can't beat a SLAP round, but can you ever really trust the load unless you load it yourself?!
Buffman range is a cool mf, keep up the good work! You want to raise your eyebrows, test some .257 weatherby mag, 100 gr spitzer weatherby factory loads, it will burn a clean hole through 1/2” ar 500 at 100 yds. Ask me how I know!
M993 seems like shooting a magnum version of a 308 but with the added benefit of it having a hardened core and additions to stabilize it in flight. Same with the SLAP. The Slap is a lightweight core? Less material to eat the force of impact. Only the tungsten core to ice pick thru the plate.
someone might have mentioned already, but there is actually one 7.62 that is more extreme than even the SLAP... 7.62x51 DUDS, which stands for Depleted Uranium Discarding Sabot. so basically a SLAP round but with DU instead of tungsten. not even sure where you would find them. I believe Oxide did some testing with a couple awhile back
I have some old .30-06 accelerator rounds which are super similar to the design of the SLAP round but it’s a 55gr copper jacketed lead projectile instead of tungsten
I made a bolt action .50 BMG rifle. I shot it with standard FMJ loads. I had ear plugs and headphones, but was still insanely loud. I could feel my intestines shaking from the shock wave.
@ 4:40- "I turned 21 in prison doing life without parole, no one could steer me right but MOMMA Tried..." Funny how certain words and ballistics can kick off a memory.
Everyone gets hung up on the Raufoss round, but IIRC it doesn't penetrate as well, or carry as much explosive as other rounds. It's a best of all worlds round.
Back in the 1980's sabot rounds were widely available in .30-30 Winchester, .308 Winchester, and .30-'06 Government. They weren't armor piercing SLAP rounds, just SL'uh.
gyrojet rounds can be up to $200 a pop, but unlike these others that are specialty loads of common cartridges, its a entirely unique cartridge type so idk if it counts
That 16 inch 50 is cool since it gives you an idea of how stuff would be at longer range. Probably won't be getting slapped point blank with a 30 inch BMG
I kinda want to own a few of these rounds just to have them. Collecting a lot of unique and rare guns is a bit out of my price range, so unique ammo is a nice 2nd option.
Thanks, Enjoyed the show, info and humor.. Like the Noreen 50. Car engine blocks are good for ammo testing, More likely to be encountered as a Target. Most so called modern cars today have Aluminum blocks, Easy to stop.
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How did you comment a day ago on a video that came out an hour ago?
Cool video.
Please change Terry, this is too dirty. Keep a new one in a transparent plastic back while shooting it, so it doesn't get dusty. Remove bag after shooting to examine spaulding and booOoolet holes
the sad part is you cant claim it when you literally play it daily, i really should get a refund on my 15k hours in that game but at same time i really dont regret it.
my father has every 50bmg round made. plus some :)
Scotts neck from Kentucky ballistics was definitely tingling.
Spidy senses tingling!!
Spidy senses tingling!!
His thumb got hard
One in here was a raufross. The one Scott got hit in the neck with was a 50 bmg slap round
Read my mind the moment I seen the SLAP round
That SLAP round....slaps.
This ammo has quite a mark up on it you would be at $5/ rnd for m993/ap8 and m995/ap3 for test quantity from the manufacturer. You need a longer barrel and longer range to compare the swiss p wcap as this is carries it's energy better than m993 or slap.
There are equivalent rounds with some variations for eastern block ammo. And other material types.
You would also find some interesting results if you separate the plates or add a separate cover plate.
If you put m193 up against 1/4" plate then its likely to plug but the m855 will be stopped.
And as weve seen they could also slap you
Idk if you ever mentioned that you were a 5.5 hour round trip from your house to your range. Wow. Thank you for the content and your dedication. Your vids are fun and enlightening. Much appreciated.
I know, right?
@El_Peto
Might as well move closer
I've never seen SLAP out in the wild. That round is impressive.
Demolition ranch just shot a bunch if you want to see some more
They are specialized rounds and should never be shot through a muzzle brake. A flash hider is ok as the slots are longitudinal. The ports of a brake are vertical and can intercept the Sabot. Not good for the follow up shot. Mark Serbu will attest to that. 50 cal in the face. 0.50 Cal SLAP through a MB. Second round bad. He is well, and advised. Praise God.
@@bryanst.martin7134brake? Is that a silencer?
@@ChristyKSweetthe baffles could probably produce the same result, idk tho im not rich enough to try
Pretty much
Whoa! You make my reloading hobby look better and better with your wake-up reminder of cartridge costs. I keep all of my firearms in a safe. Your wake-up call on true ammo costs tells me that I need another safe just for my ammo!
Yup
As an avid reloader, I can tell you if money savings is your reason, the cost will pretty much be the same, maybe less and could be even more. It all depends on your components you use. And thats the advantage to reloading. You get to choose your components. Just to give you an example. 9mm is cheaper to buy than it is to reload. Dont know how they do, but you can buy 1000 rnds of 9mm for about 230. Just the primers will cost you now anywhere from 110 to 150, the bullets will cost you around 100 for cheap bullets and the powder would be around 15. So add that up an for a 1000 rnds, with free brass taken from the range. You will spend probably at least 250. The bullets I buy for the range are about 11 cents each, but you can spend 30 to 50 cents each for better bullets..The advantage is I get to choose my load, my bullet and powder. I wouldnt trade my ammo for store bought because I know whats in it.
@@davidpryor7366 I like reloading most is that I can have powders here and pellets there, and and reload what ever cartridge suits the purpose. As opposed to 1000's of target rounds. My choir consists of .308, 300BO, .40SW, 38Sp/357 mag, and 12ga. Two powders support the lot. I can use useless .223 casings. Case split...
@@davidpryor7366 Your just not finding any deals then. I found 1000 124gr berrys 9mm bullets at cabelas for 80 some bucks out the door, 8 cents per primer, and dont remember what I paid for powder last time, probably around 40 bucks for a pound. So add up 80+80+40= 200 bucks for 1000 rounds plus enough powder left over for another 300-400 rounds.
@@bryanst.martin7134 Im with you on that. I do both, 9mm and 5.56 I load a lot of range ammo. Then there the other side with 6.5 creedmore, .308, 6mm arc, 30.30, 44 mag. If I could reload my own .22 lr, Id probably be loading that too.lol They would be tack driving rounds tho. I love CFE 223, that powder will do a lot. Not very temp stable tho. Other powders are more suited. The choice is what I like as well. I am still surprised you dont save money even using range brass.
That SLAP round is crazy
Gotta be careful with them. Anyone remember Kentucky Ballistics?
To the max! Really wish I got a velocity
@@Ntynn9999 He had a 50BMG blow up in his face and it sliced a large hole in either one of the jugular veins or one of the carotid arteries and he put his thumb in the hole to prevent a 30 second exsanguination.
To be fair that was because it was loaded with pistol powder that dialed the PSI to 11. SLAP in itself isn't that crazy plus banana here loads most of his own rounds so I doubt that kinda goof is likely to happen.
@@tristanwilkinson4720 Yes but also he had a muzzle brake on which is a terrible thing for slap rounds. Not a good combo of overloaded old rounds and potential for the sabot to get hung up causing a pressure spike.
I have been restless since your last video. Been through my garage, Work, stores etc looking for inspiration to replace the sand box. Wallah, found something consistent and cheap. Semi truck mud flaps, sliced into 4" square, layered and compressed in a vise.
Let me guess, the blur on the 50cals is some stupid YT guideline...
Yup
Technically, the SLAP round isn't the most ridiculous round, I would say that title does to the experimental Pacific Technica 7.62 DUDS (depleted uranium discarding sabot). Oxide did a video on em.
Technically they are Uranium carbide I believe, and rumor has it that they are pretty hot...and I don't mean ballistically!
Best left alone...
@@cheryltysver4819depleted uranium isn't really radioactive..
Wild how that 7.62 sabot ripped thru
Holy moley that 7.62 slap round is spicy!🔥
why are things either underwhelming or overwhelming but never whelming?
Whelp, that is a good question!
"Can't you just be whelmed?"
"I think you can in Europe."
(From the Teen Comedy "10 Things I Hate About You".)
whelming would just be "average" or "adequate". that's a valid question though!
this comment is whelming
to whelm is to capsize, an action either underperformed or overperformed... one simply does not just whelm
That .50 looks like an awful shooting experience lmao
yarp
Way too short of a barrel on it, basically useless and not even fun to shoot!
I agree with the tactical toilet guy. Totally not worth it.
There's a rifle round I was in a shop looking at quite the while ago where the rifle itself was absurdly cheap. I had to ask what the catch was. "The ammunition and the brass has been out of circulation for a long time." Oh? Sounds like a custom job then, I thought. Nope. The last 6 rounds that came with the rifle were $400 each. Not because it's good, just rare.
What's the round?
If its a nice rifle just rechamber it in a more common round
What was the caliber and rifle?!!!
@@RexSkittlesI need to know now
.22 Tuba lol@@RexSkittles
I had some late 70's early 80's isreali black tip 7.62x51 and it cut through 3/4" mild steel plate with a really needle sharp hardened tungsten core and lots of spalling of the copper jacket and lead filler. Picked em up for 60 cpr back when. They were fun as hell. I have some 1" mild steel plate hunks with a few of the cores stuck in it. Cool as hell
Thanks for an interesting comment!
I picked up a new 38" Israeli .50 Bmg barrel years ago, that looked like a slightly overgrown 36" Aircraft barrel. I have had quite a number of .50 Bmg barrels, with
numerous ones running in the 40" - 60" range... and none of them could come close to equaling what the 38" IMI barrel could achieve ballistically. With top loads with 700 and 750 gr. projectile weights... it could routinely reach the high 17,000 ft. lbs. of energy range and with the right projectile (750 grain PPI-AP) it could top out at 19,000 ft.lbs., of energy!
Considering that is double the energy, what kind of velocities were you getting?
@@ohbeardedone9253
The 750 grain AP's were running 3,275+ with a full case of US -869 and the 703-708 grain AP's were running in the low 3,400 - 3,425 fps range with a full case of H-870. The pressures were too high for a normal (bolt or falling block)
action but in this barrel those energies were achieved with only a very few occasions where slight primer leakage occurred and there were no blown primers. The PPI- AP projectiles were exceptional in this regard and in this barrel there were no indications of over pressure at full case capacity! It is important to note that this was a one of a kind barrel in terms of achievable muzzle energies and the loads noted where obtained after a significant level of throat erosion had occurred which would have mitigated the pressure levels reached. The action used utilized a threaded bolt with 2-3 times the barrel shank engagement of a standard barrel
and the materials that were used had a much higher than normal ductile tensile range which may have undergone some level of work hardening...
By the way...in order to find the muzzle velocities of a projectile of known weight...you can always multiply the energy by 450240 and then divide by the projectile weight and then take the square root of the result...which you may have already known.
50 bmg shows cost isnt about total materials used being thst its by far the biggest projectile brass and powder amount yet is only 4$
Yep, I remember when they were $1.25 a round and still considered expensive at that price, this was around 2005.
That SLAP is no joke. Cool video.
"only a dollar a piece". That sir, is expensive for the average gun person, like myself. I bought 500 rounds of 7.62x51 and it was just over 500 with tax and bulk fee. I have yet to shoot a single round. BECAUSE IT'LL COST ME 30 DOLLARS TO SHOOT AN ENTIRE MAG!!! It'll be fun though, no doubt. Looking forward to it, actually in a wild way.
Buff man is singlehandedly supporting the high end, rare bullet testing community on TH-cam
Can't have all these guys running around not talking about some awesome military loadings, now can we :D
I was just telling someone about your ultimate barrier test. Question... have you tried the 50 BMG against the box of sand? I'd be interested to see how much sand it takes to stop the 50.
It’s coming soon
An outstanding user for a box of sand!!!
Surprisingly, not that much.
@@bananaballistics You did an excellent job matching the threat to the choice of targets in this video! You also did well moving to the new chronograph...I understand that they are very reliable!
The chronograph results for the short barrel...50 BMG was very informative.
Just a heads up... given the dramatically higher muzzle pressure in such a short barrel as evidenced by the Pressure-Time curve... even the use of both plugs and muffs is not adequate to prevent hearing loss with the .50! Even when normal 29" to 36" barrels are used
Fifty Caliber Shooters Association technical people found that the muzzle brakes that are required caused not insignificant hearing loss with double protection! I have been a member since it's inception...until quite recently and I intend to re-up! Also, I did not see any notification indicating where I could leave a comment in the usual places!
Please advise...
@@pewpewTN Yeah, even .50 BMG slap. Sand is just that OP and should really get nerfed next patch
I believe 20x110mm (Hispano) had some sabot rounds designed and trialed that could’ve put up a good fight against the sand menace. But alas, people found that 20mm rounds are way better for delivering payload than kinetic penetration. So they were abandoned afaik
It’d be interesting to see how 14.5x114mm would do. But that’s also a whole extra headache with the destructive device bs, since it’s definitely not a hunting cartridge like .950 and therefore isn’t exempt
My son in law has a .338 Lapua, and it is basically a safe queen since the cheapest ammo for it I have come across in my travels lately is at $124.99 per box of 20. Pretty sure that with a new baby, the daughter would grab him by the short arm and perform the hammer throw with him if he spent that much on 1 box of ammo right now.
The funny thing is that's what you pay for a box of 7mm rem mag in Australia
@@craigmandall9420
I was just going to say many of our rifle rounds even for 270Win are $50 a box and even more for 7MM etc.
I do hand loads for my 270 for accuracy and projectile. Not a huge savings. Insane accuracy out of my Tikka T3lite Stainless fluted barrel. .5 MOA at a 100yds.and 1" at 350yds.
Not sure how much it would save because I'm guessing the components for it are high too but reloading is almost a must for a cartridge like that.
That's pretty ridiculous, even in California a box of 20rd 338 lapua costs about 65 dollars, not cheap but it's about double a box of any standard 30 cal
.50 BMG SLAP, when 👀
You would have to call that round a juggernaut, because nothings stopping it !
In the 80s they had slap rounds for 30-06 and they were call accelerators and they were twice as much as regular rounds, for a hunting coyotes
Weren't they 223 rounds saboted in 30-06 brass?
@@chrisdonnelly5904 You are correct sir.
@@chrisdonnelly5904 yes I believe it was, use them in Arizona they don't go very far.
You could also by the sabots and load your own.
The military already did this with the SLAP rounds, they used the 50BMG for a bit and developed some for the M60, but abandoned those as they caused “a series of catastrophic malfunctions”
Also, the accelerators sucked unless handled with the utmost care as it was pretty easy to shift the projectile in the sabot and make your groupings open up to like 8’ at 50yds
You absolutely should spray paint "Harry" white which would show the actual damage and make the findings more accurate.
Harry? You mean Terry the Torso?
@@md_vandenberg harry the horso
@@md_vandenberg That's the torso's name, isn't it?
Lol these mannequins clear up with a torch flame very quickly and become transparent.. Why paint it?
A cheap t shirt would work easy to see and cheap
Wrapping a wet sock loosely around the brake on that .499bmg is hilarious but it does drop the over-pressure quite a bit. Like a bandage, not a hat.
Commentators below pointed out that the main problem with Tungsten is that it has no functional brizance, nor ignition function. Depleted Uranium is used for anti-tank, because it almost immediately ignites into a flaming spall after penetration (in oxygen). As such it also sets everything behind it, on fire. Tungsten is glass-hard and tends to have no spall from itself. DU is softer, and when penetrating it basically flows like butter through any soft metals, and those edges ignite. We used to model this hydrodynamic flow, and the main problem was that the DU blob ejected all of itself before penetrating. The additions of some kind of support structure, such as the aluminum cup (much softer) is intended to provide a sacrificial buffer so that the DU can get further into the structure. Tungsten has the same problems as the original Luger pistol, where the bullet just went cleanly though the target. As a result, warriors were able to fight on for hours, unless they lost a lot of blood, or had been hit in a disabling site. The Moro war earlier led to the move to a larger 45 round by the Marines, which had a one-hit disabling capability.
The nice thing about 50 BMG is you can buy armor piercing rounds, tracer and incendiary and a combination of them all in cheap surplus ammo. Plus ball and match rounds and RAFUS if you want to really go crazy.
*14:30** Thank you for that expense. Saved many people money, I'm sure.*
I'd love for you to get onto the unsub podcast.
Good idea!
Please do
Someone tag doughnut or Eli
That is a great idea!
Why?
Banana talks to Terry like Tom Hanks talks to Wilson
What, He's been alone too long?
Dude that 7.62 slap round is actually mindblowing. I've shot FMJ .50 BMG at AR500 steel and it stopped it no problem.
I knew that SLAP went through like butter just watching it hit. I had zero doubt there would be a hole on the back without even any deformation around it. Just butter. Crazy.
You want SLAP rounds cheap? EABCO polymer accelerator. You’ll need the reloading adapters, but you could make seriously fast rounds out of any .30 round. 30-06 does a serious number on level 4.
You shot the Swiss 338 AP yay! I had a comment on one of your other videos about it. Love the stuff, keep up the awesome work!
A perfect example why tank guns moved from solid AP or APHE to APDS rounds , this slap round kicks man .
It needs to be mentioned that your pacing and consistency is really admirable. Hats off to the editing, creating a brand. Impressive marksmenship as well of course.
Your videos have always been good, but your recent vids are absolutely killing it.
Awesome video!! Some of these rounds are amazing and some of the results were surprising. Definitely appreciate Buffman Range and will be subscribing to them right after watching this video. 👍
Terry looking like he needs a vacation. Maybe he needs to go to a spa and get a little plastic surgery.
I see what you did there!!!! HA!!!!
FYI - I've shot standard .50 bmg AP rounds into 1.5" and 2" mild steel plate at 100 yds. It bores a hole clean through the 1.5" and either bulged the back or the penetrator sticks out the back on the 2" plate. Might be something your viewers would like to see, but I'd highly recommend using a full-length barrel rifle to get the most out of it. My is a Barrett M99 with the longer bull barrel.
Casual reminder that "tungsten" and "tungsten carbide" are not the same thing.
Tungsten(or some aloy of it) is the meterial used in the rounds shown and is a metal.
Tungsten carbide are bits you you see welded on the tips of saw blades and other such cuting instruments and is not a metal.
They are different things with difrent properties and cannot be use interchangeably.
Engineer out.
The results for raufoss m211 vs the SLAP makes sense to me. The raufoss is meant to pierce soft-armored or lightly-armored vehicles and detonate behind the armor, inflicting serious damage to the vehicle’s occupants. The SLAP is like a needle, it’s made for pure penetration but won’t cause nearly the same amount of chaos inside of a vehicle.
Why censor the raufus round explosion?
TH-cam new rules probably. Either would demonetize or restrict the video.
Dude, your channel is gonna blow _up._ You got some really great content. Here's to your first million subscribers, bud! 👍
...I guess I'll mention that I like the new "toilet man" character; yeah been awhile coming, but thx banana man
It would be nice to see if you could grind off the welds and look at the back of the first plate in front of the second plate. Those welds look pretty good btw.
Nice!!!!!appreciate your humor and content
This channel should be way bigger.
Agreed
👍
I watch these all the time and just realized I wasn’t even subscribed. Fixed that real quick
2:15 This thing could have maybe performed better than the expensive .50 BMG, if it was used on the same target.
Great video.. that SLAP round was impressive
Super cool that you bought these rounds just to show us
That slap round was no joke!!!
I'm impressed, not with the cost of the ammo but the fact you didn't get a concussion from that 50 BMG. Thanks, great video!...
Awesome video, that SLAP is crazy impressive. Why are the blurs censored? I heard about TH-cams new gun policy, but it just doesn't make any sense to me.
Na, you got me. Lol. That clip never gets old.
would be nice to see if the 'slap' could make it through that final armor combo.
Very informative and entertaining.
Cheers for sharing.
Great video as usual. Very entertaining and informative.
Your representation of your viewing audience is hilarious along with the tight edits and jokes, excellent work
That's nuts, the M995 and 993 are the stuff of hype legend, but it's looking like overhyped legend now. The M938 result was insane, it's just a shame you can't use any muzzle devices with it.
The M993 is a Swedish ammo made by Bofors. I've tested it a lot for body armor protection. With that round the body armor gets to heavy to wear. In Sweden the army has ordered new combat rifles from Sako Finland and I could guess what ammo they are going to use.
"only!?!" Guy got me 😂 1:24
Just watched buff’s video, now I’m here!
Dude you’re really entertaining…great info. Thank you for not being foul!
You make the info very entertaining. Maybe spray paint your gel manikin in-between shots (like the target) so the debris impacts show up? Apparently can't beat a SLAP round, but can you ever really trust the load unless you load it yourself?!
Glad terry is back
That 7.62mm sure was a surprise!! It would be interesting to see what they would do to ballistic glass.
Really great test !!
Banana man that was a great video test! That Sabot was NASTY!! Thanks! BTW you're funny as hell too! ;D
That slap round is super impressive.
*Wow.* I'm honestly impressed and proud of you for not shooting a sand trap
Why censorship of the impact??? TH-cam?
Love your videos. Keep up the good work
So, what´s with the super anoying blurr ruining the raufos shots?
That SLAP round traded mass for higher velocity and did its job quite well. 😮
Buffman range is a cool mf, keep up the good work! You want to raise your eyebrows, test some .257 weatherby mag, 100 gr spitzer weatherby factory loads, it will burn a clean hole through 1/2” ar 500 at 100 yds. Ask me how I know!
M993 seems like shooting a magnum version of a 308 but with the added benefit of it having a hardened core and additions to stabilize it in flight. Same with the SLAP. The Slap is a lightweight core? Less material to eat the force of impact. Only the tungsten core to ice pick thru the plate.
someone might have mentioned already, but there is actually one 7.62 that is more extreme than even the SLAP... 7.62x51 DUDS, which stands for Depleted Uranium Discarding Sabot. so basically a SLAP round but with DU instead of tungsten. not even sure where you would find them. I believe Oxide did some testing with a couple awhile back
Why were the Raufoss rounds censored?
I have some old .30-06 accelerator rounds which are super similar to the design of the SLAP round but it’s a 55gr copper jacketed lead projectile instead of tungsten
I made a bolt action .50 BMG rifle. I shot it with standard FMJ loads. I had ear plugs and headphones, but was still insanely loud. I could feel my intestines shaking from the shock wave.
How did you know I wear a plate carrier when I sit on the toilet and watch your videos???
@ 4:40- "I turned 21 in prison doing life without parole, no one could steer me right but MOMMA Tried..." Funny how certain words and ballistics can kick off a memory.
Everyone gets hung up on the Raufoss round, but IIRC it doesn't penetrate as well, or carry as much explosive as other rounds.
It's a best of all worlds round.
Back in the 1980's sabot rounds were widely available in .30-30 Winchester, .308 Winchester, and .30-'06 Government. They weren't armor piercing SLAP rounds, just SL'uh.
Buffman is the GOAT
Fantastic, really enjoyed, thanks
Ammunition should always be made with great cost effectiveness. For the military to sustain itself this is actually paramount
Your videos are just right. Not too long but still science based.
Sheeesh look at that solus!
gyrojet rounds can be up to $200 a pop, but unlike these others that are specialty loads of common cartridges, its a entirely unique cartridge type so idk if it counts
That 16 inch 50 is cool since it gives you an idea of how stuff would be at longer range. Probably won't be getting slapped point blank with a 30 inch BMG
I kinda want to own a few of these rounds just to have them. Collecting a lot of unique and rare guns is a bit out of my price range, so unique ammo is a nice 2nd option.
Thanks, Enjoyed the show, info and humor.. Like the Noreen 50. Car engine blocks are good for ammo testing, More likely to be encountered as a Target. Most so called modern cars today have Aluminum blocks, Easy to stop.
Generally cost doesn't equate to power, it translates to consistency.
3:00 Now the box of sand can make a cameo appearance so it can be disgraced once and for all.
The innuendo content is rising. Good job banana man!
good lord that SLAP round is insane
Well, that was educational. Thank you for saving the rest of us all that $$$$ and head injury.