Awesome to see a shed, that is a machine, and completely made out of wooden moving parts except for the blade. Even wooden gears. Just beautiful. Seems so complicated, yet, so simple.
Thank You for keeping the old ways alive. I enjoy them more than every single technology we have. (Except my phone so I can learn from these videos😉) Gods Speed in All You Do😘🇺🇸
Very nicely done . Good overview of how the mill works. I would have liked a few more detail shots of how the wheel drives the machinery, but it was still very informative and helpful.
Saw a waterwheel mill on tv 📺 around the time of This Old House show(?). The inside of the mill had several workstations - saw, drill, hammer, etc. All powered by the transfer of power from the waterwheel to the workstations via leather belts. The power for the belts utilized the repositioning of the master belt thru connections to the specific station to be use. The inside was hugh! With leather belts crisscrossing the entire inside. I've tried to recently search for this video but so far, little to show for my efforts. Most of the searches resulted in waterwheel mills only powering one workstation. Typically some type of saw. But never a mill with several workstations. 🤔 I was very impressed with how the owner(s) accomplished so much with just the power of water 💧!
That is a wonderful mill. It is possible to build a mill with truck parts too, gear boxs, clutch, prop-shafts, differential and its tubes. All you need is a power source such as water (like here) or wind. These mills can grind flour, saw wood, run lathes, mills, drills etc. This would be very useful for people living in the outback.
Wow, I love this stuff! Had the opportunity of seeing the large water powered circular saw mill at Batsto New Jersey run 10 or 12 years ago. The entire building shook! It was awesome!
Awesome video as a sawyer I’m glad times have evolved, but same time those were the days... Times were hard but simple and hard work was the common place now folks have forgotten how to take pride in what they do... some of the lumber off that mill probably still in use today somewhere...
The mill is a magnificent combination of ingenuity, skill and attention to the process. I can imagine that a suitable stream could become a site for a variety of different machines without the noise and smell of a factory. I have read of such sites in the past as people became more adept with iron, seems like things got tangled up somewhere along the line.
Thanks for your comment. Maine once had 2,000 water powered mills. Our state still gets 30% of our electricity from hydro electric power, a clean renewable source of power.
The log carriage advances 1/4" with a rack and pinion gear each time the saw moves up. This link shows more details: drive.google.com/file/d/1kYOX2-qamioupuvaqCThugIPOjczvRHP/view?usp=sharing
Good observation. A water-powered sawmill at Kings Landing uses a water-powered capstan to pull logs into the mill. th-cam.com/video/bBPl1PcckGY/w-d-xo.html
sawing lumber with an overshot waterwheel. 10 to 15 hp. If each bucket holds 3 gallons on a 20 ft wheel 10 hp. 7 gallon buckets producing about 15 hp. Thus a thin kerf blade could cut lumber at a modern speed economically without current eco laws preventing said stream manipulation depending on stream flow for horsepower.
That would be a great idea. The water-powered sawmill at Kings Landing uses a friction winch to bring in logs. th-cam.com/video/bBPl1PcckGY/w-d-xo.html
Probably very similar to how the ancient Romans cut lumber 2,000 years ago There are remains of stone water mills to grind wheat into flour, but the wooden saw mills would have vanished long ago.
That gives me a better respect for our ancestors who had to work the old fashioned way. Depending on water and wind was the OLD way, not the new way. Kids today need to know that. Thanks for a great video of how it used to be.
Thanks for your observation. In Maine we had 2,000 water-powered mills in 1850. Towns were built by rivers to harness this renewable energy. Bangor later had an extensive electric trolley system powered with the electricity generated by hydro-power. We can learn from the past.
Seems like a capstan or friction drum would be used on the block an tackle that brought the logs from the pond into the mill. Yeah, overall very interesting, good job.
Just about anywhere you drive east of the Hudson River, the entire U.S. manufacturing economy in the 18th century was run in New England. Every last GD town in every state in New England is centered around a river, because that's what drove the machinery. Drive around New England and you'll find exactly what you're looking for - and then some.
Spring Mill State Park near Mitchell, Indiana has a grist mill and an entire little town they brought to decorate the mill. It's very nice. The water comes out of a cave and is COLD. Great place to spend the day cooling your feet in the mill creek. Do it!
Me: watches three hours of point-of-view fire truck response videos. TH-cam: you should watch this water-powered saw mill video. Me: THIS! THIS IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!
when ever i watch these videos i keep thinking about what it was like when this was 'state of the art' it seems so dated now it isnt funny but imagine what it will be like for our advanced saw mills when a similar amount of time has passed how will they look at them(if they can still function)
This early up and down sawmill was based on the 2 man pitsaw used then. It cuts only on the down stroke. The rotary sawmill came later and cuts continuously..
Great to keep these things running. However, the top of the blade should be slightly forward otherwise the teeth will rub on the upstroke as they are here.
Leonard's Mills is at the Maine Forest and Logging Museum in Bradley, Maine. This sawmill will be running during Living History days on October 6 and 7, 2018. Several other mills and our circa 1910 Lombard steam log hauler also will be running.
Leonard's Mills is in Bradley, Maine. Our next event is on July 27, 2019 and the saw mill will be running then if there is sufficient water. It should also be running during Living History Days on October 5 & 6.
If I don't wear my CPAP breathing mask, I saw lumber too. It's human powered. I supposed it could also be considered green energy but my mucus isn't always that color.
I'am not shure, but in my mind the feeder runs not in the right way: normal he goes forward in the cut, here it forwardet when the blade goes up and the wood frikts on the unsharp of the Blade 🤔 ...
The saw blade is slightly angled and cuts only on the down stroke while the log is stopped. The log then advances about 1/4 inch towards the saw while the blade is moving up.
@@herbcrosby YES , exactly what i see☝️🧐 and this seems a little bit wrong in the timing, so the lumber is pressed to the upgoing Blade. I also work in a old aged saw mill as mecanic... I think the pushrod/ crank is 180degrees missangeled to the feeder...
Check out Ballard's Mill in Derry New Hampshire. I believe it is run twice in the summer months. Thanks, a great video. May be slow, but faster than a two man pit saw.
So, that's how old farts pass the time of day and get exercise when they have a water powered saw mill in their back yard, very cool. It sure beats big city living!
Funniest part is how snowflakes are convinced of how smart they are. These computers have made them all geniuses. They wouldnt have the fortitude to ever saw a log long enough to want to look for an easier way. Much less put together a solution. People are getting dumber not smarter. It sure makes me appreciate my dog. Thanks for sharing.
imagine it is 1770 and you just got an order for 1000 boards, and oh by the way they need it by Friday! Looks to me like nothings changed much. LOL. In reality they were much more laid-back then. Glad to see there are a few of these still around we will certainly need them after the next election. No more fossil fuel, electricity, steam power, there will not even be any cows left so no OX power, and a pit sawing a board is an awful lot of work. I'm glade I still have a two man saw laying around. Might need it next time I need a 2x4, that is if it will still be legal to cut down a tree.
Awesome to see a shed, that is a machine, and completely made out of wooden moving parts except for the blade. Even wooden gears. Just beautiful. Seems so complicated, yet, so simple.
I love the old ways ... craftsmanship, carving a life out of the wilderness .. how inspiring...
I'm not sure why but, I could watch that for longer than I just did. Thank you, Herb!
Having worked in saw mills in Australia really like this old beautiful mill. thanks for sharing.
Thank You for keeping the old ways alive. I enjoy them more than every single technology we have. (Except my phone so I can learn from these videos😉) Gods Speed in All You Do😘🇺🇸
I operated a water powered sash saw for the DNR in Indiana. Was a fun thing to do. Gets in your blood. Thanks for sharing Leonard’s Mill.
Very nicely done . Good overview of how the mill works. I would have liked a few more detail shots of how the wheel drives the machinery, but it was still very informative and helpful.
Beautiful working mill, thanks for sharing!
Saw a waterwheel mill on tv 📺 around the time of This Old House show(?). The inside of the mill had several workstations - saw, drill, hammer, etc. All powered by the transfer of power from the waterwheel to the workstations via leather belts. The power for the belts utilized the repositioning of the master belt thru connections to the specific station to be use.
The inside was hugh! With leather belts crisscrossing the entire inside. I've tried to recently search for this video but so far, little to show for my efforts.
Most of the searches resulted in waterwheel mills only powering one workstation. Typically some type of saw. But never a mill with several workstations. 🤔
I was very impressed with how the owner(s) accomplished so much with just the power of water 💧!
That is a wonderful mill.
It is possible to build a mill with truck parts too, gear boxs, clutch, prop-shafts, differential and its tubes. All you need is a power source such as water (like here) or wind. These mills can grind flour, saw wood, run lathes, mills, drills etc. This would be very useful for people living in the outback.
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Wow, I love this stuff! Had the opportunity of seeing the large water powered circular saw mill at Batsto New Jersey run 10 or 12 years ago. The entire building shook! It was awesome!
Thank you for your videos! Very educational.
Awesome video as a sawyer I’m glad times have evolved, but same time those were the days... Times were hard but simple and hard work was the common place now folks have forgotten how to take pride in what they do... some of the lumber off that mill probably still in use today somewhere...
That old engineering is amazing. I love water-powered things!
Hydrogeneration
This work would certainly keep you in shape, well done!
Very good tutorial very interested very well done thank you for sharing it
The mill is a magnificent combination of ingenuity, skill and attention to the process. I can imagine that a suitable stream could become a site for a variety of different machines without the noise and smell of a factory. I have read of such sites in the past as people became more adept with iron, seems like things got tangled up somewhere along the line.
Thanks for your comment. Maine once had 2,000 water powered mills. Our state still gets 30% of our electricity from hydro electric power, a clean renewable source of power.
What moves the log against the saw & how is that operated?
The log carriage advances 1/4" with a rack and pinion gear each time the saw moves up. This link shows more details:
drive.google.com/file/d/1kYOX2-qamioupuvaqCThugIPOjczvRHP/view?usp=sharing
There's a surprising amount of torque behind that waterwheel!
@THAT Guy Good point, that definitely would help
Respect your elders.
This is still an awesome engineering feature
Funny that they never rigged a windlass off a lineshaft to pull those logs up from the pond like they use to pull the carriage back.
Good observation. A water-powered sawmill at Kings Landing uses a water-powered capstan to pull logs into the mill.
th-cam.com/video/bBPl1PcckGY/w-d-xo.html
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
sawing lumber with an overshot waterwheel. 10 to 15 hp. If each bucket holds 3 gallons on a 20 ft wheel 10 hp. 7 gallon buckets producing about 15 hp. Thus a thin kerf blade could cut lumber at a modern speed economically without current eco laws preventing said stream manipulation depending on stream flow for horsepower.
I think it's really really cool how you can get so much torque out if those simple wheels
oil painting landscape . very beautiful
Does most of the cutting on the upswing or am I imagining that
This mill cuts only on the downstroke and advances the log carriage on the upstroke. The blade brushes out some sawdust on the upstroke.
@@herbcrosby gotcha
Old Sturbridge Village in Sturbridge, Ma. USA might still have one of these running.
Shouldn't a friction winch be applied also to pulling the log into the sawmill from the millpond instead of using two old men to hoist it in?
That would be a great idea. The water-powered sawmill at Kings Landing uses a friction winch to bring in logs. th-cam.com/video/bBPl1PcckGY/w-d-xo.html
I built my own saw mill, every part of it, took me a year, Buick V-8 powered.
Did you supercharge it?
That little V8 probably has 50 times the power this wheel has. The wheel in this video probably only has a few HP.
Probably very similar to how the ancient Romans cut lumber 2,000 years ago
There are remains of stone water mills to grind wheat into flour, but the wooden saw mills would have vanished long ago.
i would love to visit this mill . Where is it located ? Thanks !
Nice, thanks. I love Riverwood
Really interesting. Thank you for sharing this.
That gives me a better respect for our ancestors who had to work the old fashioned way. Depending on water and wind was the OLD way, not the new way. Kids today need to know that. Thanks for a great video of how it used to be.
Thanks for your observation. In Maine we had 2,000 water-powered mills in 1850. Towns were built by rivers to harness this renewable energy. Bangor later had an extensive electric trolley system powered with the electricity generated by hydro-power. We can learn from the past.
Seems like a capstan or friction drum would be used on the block an tackle that brought the logs from the pond into the mill. Yeah, overall very interesting, good job.
This film should be mandatory for engineering classes to teach how things were in the old days. It would be good for their education.
Good job kids God bless you all
Your saw mill is awesome 👍👍do you guys allow visitors?
Absolutely beautiful!
awesome video ..thank you for the upload !!!
A very interesting video. Thank you
I enjoyed this video a lot. Really really cool!
Three eights kerf?
I live in east central Iowa, could anyone tell me where to go to see a sawmill like this run? Please
Just about anywhere you drive east of the Hudson River, the entire U.S. manufacturing economy in the 18th century was run in New England. Every last GD town in every state in New England is centered around a river, because that's what drove the machinery. Drive around New England and you'll find exactly what you're looking for - and then some.
@@stevemcgrath8546 I've thought about heading up that way before, but it's a long drive from Oklahoma.
@@TheWoodsman661 Why not fly?
@@mattywho8485 I've never been in a plane before, and I don't know how expensive tickets are.
Spring Mill State Park near Mitchell, Indiana has a grist mill and an entire little town they brought to decorate the mill. It's very nice. The water comes out of a cave and is COLD. Great place to spend the day cooling your feet in the mill creek. Do it!
Fantastic! I love old mills!
This in in Eddington Maine, just outside of Bangor
I'll have to take a look next time I'm up there. I got family across town in Glenburn.
I can smell the saw dust , back from a time when a hard Day's work was just that .
Walter Baker looks more like a lot of standing around, waiting and watching to me.
Great piece of history!
Wow this is great how complicated is this like to see everything how it works
Me: watches three hours of point-of-view fire truck response videos.
TH-cam: you should watch this water-powered saw mill video.
Me: THIS! THIS IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!
I'm surprised how little water flow and height is required to operate that mill.
when ever i watch these videos i keep thinking about what it was like when this was 'state of the art' it seems so dated now it isnt funny but imagine what it will be like for our advanced saw mills when a similar amount of time has passed how will they look at them(if they can still function)
You should check out the wind powered sawmills
I would give anything to be able to work at a traditional sawmill
Love your Australian accent!
why such a slow method? why not wheel saw?
This early up and down sawmill was based on the 2 man pitsaw used then. It cuts only on the down stroke. The rotary sawmill came later and cuts continuously..
Did you get permission from the state to borrow their water?
No, and they're breathing "their" air free, too. Don't tell.
Great to keep these things running. However, the top of the blade should be slightly forward otherwise the teeth will rub on the upstroke as they are here.
After hewing logs for a few thousand years you say 'there has got to be a better way' and this is what you get to start.
Then after doing this for a while, they invented the diesel engine!
Lovely. We need to go back to this kind of living
Maine woods
Maine sky
Fresh cut lumber.
I knew this video reminded me of home
Dudes, can I live and work there, please? No phone, no electric, no people?
We invite work campers to spend time here each summer to meet guests. It is a beautiful place off the grid.
I love this sorta stuff!
Good morning from St John Parish, Louisiana 14 Dec 20.
WOW VERY COOL! WHERE IS THIS? I WOULD LOVE TO COME SEE IT IN ACTION.
Leonard's Mills is at the Maine Forest and Logging Museum in Bradley, Maine. This sawmill will be running during Living History days on October 6 and 7, 2018. Several other mills and our circa 1910 Lombard steam log hauler also will be running.
@@herbcrosby when will it be running in 2019?
Leonard's Mills is in Bradley, Maine. Our next event is on July 27, 2019 and the saw mill will be running then if there is sufficient water. It should also be running during Living History Days on October 5 & 6.
If I don't wear my CPAP breathing mask, I saw lumber too. It's human powered. I supposed it could also be considered green energy but my mucus isn't always that color.
Good job keeping the trade alive
I'am not shure, but in my mind the feeder runs not in the right way: normal he goes forward in the cut, here it forwardet when the blade goes up and the wood frikts on the unsharp of the Blade 🤔 ...
The saw blade is slightly angled and cuts only on the down stroke while the log is stopped. The log then advances about 1/4 inch towards the saw while the blade is moving up.
@@herbcrosby YES , exactly what i see☝️🧐 and this seems a little bit wrong in the timing, so the lumber is pressed to the upgoing Blade. I also work in a old aged saw mill as mecanic... I think the pushrod/ crank is 180degrees missangeled to the feeder...
Thats that mechanical advantage 😊
What a treat to see. I was born in the wrong century.
Check out Ballard's Mill in Derry New Hampshire. I believe it is run twice in the summer months.
Thanks, a great video. May be slow, but faster than a two man pit saw.
So, that's how old farts pass the time of day and get exercise when they have a water powered saw mill in their back yard, very cool. It sure beats big city living!
Old farts know more and get more done than new idiots coming into this world everyday.
@@willythewave and once they die off the global takeover plan will be complete
Very cool.
Genius!
Je to veliká krása!!!
Funniest part is how snowflakes are convinced of how smart they are. These computers have made them all geniuses. They wouldnt have the fortitude to ever saw a log long enough to want to look for an easier way. Much less put together a solution. People are getting dumber not smarter. It sure makes me appreciate my dog. Thanks for sharing.
So this is what they had for a band saw mill before band saws were even discovered
And just think,Thay did that so thay did not have to work so hard cutting lumber !
"Thay"??
I think I hear a Mainer in there ...
Just friggin awsom
Just to think , All l have to Do ! Is Live ! Next to a Lake !! And I have ! My Sawmill ! And Power ! Station !! Ready ! To Go !!
Do you generate any income whatsoever? HOW?
I think it's a museum. They probably get grants, and possibly entry fees.
Some bad ass men made this saw mill.
I am surprised there was no squirt can/bottle of oil to keep the saw blade from binding.
keje45, The saw blade is thicker out at the tips of the teeth, so it's cutting a wider kerf than the thickness of the blade; hence no binding.
@@lynnlard5531 thanks.
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this can run wood gears for 100 years but phones are dead in 6 months.
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Organik energy
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Very cool
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Love it
man sounds like goofy
I remember putting bodies through these things in Skyrim
Save skin. Use gloves.
Terrific. Bit more explanation would be nice but terrific anyway.
A state or location in the title might be useful.
Leonard's Mills is located in Bradley, Maine.
why is it called a mill, when it's not milling, perhaps it is a water wheel saw shed. I`m just being silly.
So unreal
imagine it is 1770 and you just got an order for 1000 boards, and oh by the way they need it by Friday! Looks to me like nothings changed much. LOL. In reality they were much more laid-back then. Glad to see there are a few of these still around we will certainly need them after the next election. No more fossil fuel, electricity, steam power, there will not even be any cows left so no OX power, and a pit sawing a board is an awful lot of work. I'm glade I still have a two man saw laying around. Might need it next time I need a 2x4, that is if it will still be legal to cut down a tree.
after ww three this will be state of the art
After WWIII, the survivors will be roaches, Cher, and this sawmill.
This is how the Amish are suppose to do it!!! Wheres the amish?? Lmfao. They gettting a tax break while you break your back.