At the end just before he starts the verse where he finds out that it’s his mom, that mob deep line “I’ve fallen and I can’t turn back” is such a small piece of this story but fits ever so perfectly.
What a fantastic reaction. Ive watched countless reactions now and this lady had by far the most genuine reaction out of all of them. This song is truly a "cautionary tale" and is meant to hit you as deep as possible. And to make things clear, Immortal Technique himself WAS NEVER there during this rape, this story is based on a true story that did happen but most who were involved are dead now. Source is video titled "Immortal Technique on "Dance With The Devil" Being a True Story" by BootlegKev
Any drug dealer you knew was already passed the point of keeping the lights on. It's no different than any other position in our capitalist system. People start off just wanting to survive and end up hording. Its why we have billionaires. Thanks for the reactions y'all 🙏
What Nick told you about this not being true and only an urban legend isn’t completely correct. It is a true story, it’s just that Immortal Technique didn’t really take part in it. But he has said he knew some of the people involved in it. He even said in a pretty recent interview that he could take you to the actual building where it happened in Harlem.
29:33 homie's dropping some real wisdom. Gonna remember this when I get kids of my own. And like other people said, I really enjoyed the genuiness of your reactions. Also, great observation regarding the mother's perspective, I never thought of that but it truly makes the whole scenario 10x more tragic.
Listen to this song is like watching Heridetary. It's incredible, traumatizing, and it does its job so well that I never want to experience it again. Except in this case, I still dip my toes occasionally. It's a modern Shakesperian tragedy. But yeah, I always forget how graphic it is. I like emotionally heavy stuff, but if I hadn't grew up with this song, I probably couldn't listen to it.
Hi guys love your material since the metal reviews love seeing doing hip hop. You should listen to killah priest heavy mental and review a song from the album.
2-3 seconds to pull the trigger... not even that long! Reply to this comment to hear about how I very nearly perished myself over a momentary lapse of reason...and yes, I am a Pink Floyd fan...
Yo what happened to this channel i remember back when you and your wife said that yall were Christians and now i came back and theres a picture in the bottom left corner that says better to be a wolf of oden than a lamb of god and if you were Christians then why have that type of thing on your video because the Bible says plain in black and white that you shall have no idols or gods besides me for i am a jealous God
I think there's a separation that can be made that often isn't. There's a conflation between understanding social reality and individual responsiblity. On a social level, we can see that various systematic problems create social phenomenon. That's different then the idea of individual responsiblity. So, for example, "pull yourselves up by your bootstraps" or something like that isnt actual good policy to change things. However, on a personal level, taking as much responsibility as you can for your individual situation is good advice. As a social policy criticism, it gets turned into "there's nothing to be done to change this situation, its just the responsibility of individual people." We understand social context are more likely to produce certain types of social problems. Like we know how communities that have high rates of unemployment and despair will see more drug abuse. For the individual addict, personal responsibility is an important message. but for the larger social problem, there are casual factors that need to be addressed so the root causes of those problems are dealt with. This isn't a paradox, but a "conservative" way of dealing with the problems is often to put ot the idea that since every individual person has responsibility, there isn't a need to address systematic causes. Except when its sytematic causes contributing to problems of their constiuents.
This is not a deep dive of a person in the ghetto. Immortal Technique said it is a true story about a line that must never be crossed. He said that the people involved do not represent the ghetto. He said that the people involved in this event all less than human and received street justice within the week. The reason he kept pushing the hook was to get the point across that doing what they did in this song is never acceptable in any hood. He goes more in-depth in his interview.
he also mentions his mother was originally a crack addict. One thing about morals and ethics is they have to come from somewhere. If someone doesnt have a family or role models to teach them, they are more likely to get into these patterns. Vin had parents who gave him moral instruction. Its clear this kid comes from a broken family, a mother who was once a crack addict. Its not an excuse form his actions, but ti does speak to the kind of environment that produced his mentality.
Serious question for you. Do you think someone as gung ho about being Christian as the two of you can be infected with devils? like being possesed by a demon might not always be as overt and detectable as it is in the movies and someone who is pious thinking that his faith would protect him from such an infection but having his demon doing subtile evil.
you know that your girl is scared of you right? ..she wants to comment on so much of what's happening in the song but she's afraid if she hits the pause button you'll hit her
hmm. What you're saying resonates with me. I got interested in developmental psychology, all the baby videos on youtube. But something that bothered me was a common kind of commentator- its hard to explain but its like they were TOO into babies. I felt like, you do realize they arent going to be babies forever and that everyone alive was once a baby? I had a hard time putting my finger on it, but what you said makes sense, though I'm not a christian. People would always emphasize how "innocent" they were. This is true, because babies under a certain age dont have any conception of right or wrong. They dont really fully understand that other people are people with their own wants and needs. I feel like those people who are so big into the "innocence" of babies are the same sort who complain on videos of toddlers having tantrums how awful they are and how they would never put up with such- despite the fact that tantrums are pretty much a universal feature of human development, where the brain is learning to regulate intense emotions and learn that a caregiver is not simply there to fulfill their desires. That said, i do wish more of the parents wit the toddler tantrums would after they're done explain why they had to tell a child no and help them understand their own emotional processes. "because I said so" isnt actually teaching good moral reasoning, its important to understand the reasons behind why parents make rules so the child can understand the logic behind the rules and whats being taught. But yeah, I feel like those commentators are sort of fetishizing babies in a way (not sexually, there's a different meaning there) Like they are seeing them as discontinous from the rest of humanity, which I think is not going to be good in terms of raising them, because they will be angry when the child inevitably grows past their "innocence" stage and disappoints the parents by no longer being their idealized angel but an actual human being capable of doing crappy things.
At the end just before he starts the verse where he finds out that it’s his mom, that mob deep line “I’ve fallen and I can’t turn back” is such a small piece of this story but fits ever so perfectly.
" He cried out to the sky because he was lonely and scared, but only the devil responded because god wasn't there".
Such an imaginative bar you can paint the picture perfectly
That line has always sent chills down my spine like no other I've ever heard in any other song
How about the "They say death takes you to a better place, well I doubt it" maybe the coldest line from the song.
Damn I said it out in my head. and that shit hit different... really makes you think.
that's the most hopeless situation possible. Unimaginable unless you really live it. Extremely deep.
Thanks guys for actually doing it.. I told ya its a great story telling song, the ending is sad.. Thanks Vin and Sori!!
Yeah sure, the ending is sad, just the ending...
How can such a violent song be such a masterpiece, immortal is a genius
Love this song. It's so fucking raw and powerful. There is evil in the world, and it's described the best in this song
Thank you. I keep watching these reactions and NONE have the tears I have when I listen. I don't get it... Great job with the real reaction.
One of the coldest to ever do it. Immortal Technique
What a fantastic reaction. Ive watched countless reactions now and this lady had by far the most genuine reaction out of all of them. This song is truly a "cautionary tale" and is meant to hit you as deep as possible. And to make things clear, Immortal Technique himself WAS NEVER there during this rape, this story is based on a true story that did happen but most who were involved are dead now. Source is video titled "Immortal Technique on "Dance With The Devil" Being a True Story" by BootlegKev
I listened to this for the first time back in September of 2004. This song is an eye opener.
It's a cautionary tale.
I was born September 2004
@@rich3029 me too
This was a great reaction. Loved both of your commentary on the song. Great job!
Immortal technique is one of the top 3 rappers I wish I can meet in person. I met method man already he was number 1
I remember listening to this song the first time, and not able to sleep thinking about the lyrics
Only channel i know that listened to the freestyle after the song…thank you
Any drug dealer you knew was already passed the point of keeping the lights on. It's no different than any other position in our capitalist system. People start off just wanting to survive and end up hording. Its why we have billionaires. Thanks for the reactions y'all 🙏
What Nick told you about this not being true and only an urban legend isn’t completely correct. It is a true story, it’s just that Immortal Technique didn’t really take part in it. But he has said he knew some of the people involved in it. He even said in a pretty recent interview that he could take you to the actual building where it happened in Harlem.
When the devil wants to dance with you, you better say never, cause the dance with the devil might last you forever
This is a classic, first heard it 16 years ago. Still just as powerful
The anime video was a must. When I first heard this story it hit me hard, Immortal Technique hit us all with oof.
Nah, the official video is best.
that’s not anime, bruh lmao! only japanese animations are called anime
One thing you can't do, is close your eyes because you will visualize it..
bro I can't wait to hear your thoughts lol 💯
despite this story he was on his BIG PUN
29:33 homie's dropping some real wisdom. Gonna remember this when I get kids of my own.
And like other people said, I really enjoyed the genuiness of your reactions. Also, great observation regarding the mother's perspective, I never thought of that but it truly makes the whole scenario 10x more tragic.
I knew this was gonna be good!
Y'all finally checked this out!!!!
Listen to this song is like watching Heridetary. It's incredible, traumatizing, and it does its job so well that I never want to experience it again.
Except in this case, I still dip my toes occasionally. It's a modern Shakesperian tragedy. But yeah, I always forget how graphic it is. I like emotionally heavy stuff, but if I hadn't grew up with this song, I probably couldn't listen to it.
I cry every time I hear this
Absolute masterpiece
Damn I fell in love for a sec lol she cried like I did
The story is true.
No it's not lol
Real shit I was 9 when I heard this song
Bro got it..
Wow!! I've never seen Sori so upset...and we know why....
the reaction to Daddy by Korn is up there
Well that was a mind fk...
Not gonna lie- I cried a bit first time I heard this…….
Hi guys love your material since the metal reviews love seeing doing hip hop. You should listen to killah priest heavy mental and review a song from the album.
2-3 seconds to pull the trigger... not even that long! Reply to this comment to hear about how I very nearly perished myself over a momentary lapse of reason...and yes, I am a Pink Floyd fan...
most disturbing song I've heard by far, such a powerful song though. Don't dance with devil
Do yall got another channel, other than youtube?
W song w reaction
DO...............Immortal Technique Eye in the Sky.........please.........God Bless you both btw....for real.
Your last song as of 10 Days...Sounds like it fucked with you. Immortal Technique's song "Poverty of Philosophy" is also a great song
Yo what happened to this channel i remember back when you and your wife said that yall were Christians and now i came back and theres a picture in the bottom left corner that says better to be a wolf of oden than a lamb of god and if you were Christians then why have that type of thing on your video because the Bible says plain in black and white that you shall have no idols or gods besides me for i am a jealous God
If it don't have the devil, it's aint r'n'r
P.s. kids are little monsters
Yup, this song mentally destroys first time listeners.
Why would God create humanity with the capability of being evil.
Theme from Love Story?
Yes
Good catch
Wtf like why 😢
immortal is the craziest lyriciest in the game and dude is dope guy
Aesop Rock right there with him
I think there's a separation that can be made that often isn't. There's a conflation between understanding social reality and individual responsiblity.
On a social level, we can see that various systematic problems create social phenomenon. That's different then the idea of individual responsiblity.
So, for example, "pull yourselves up by your bootstraps" or something like that isnt actual good policy to change things. However, on a personal level, taking as much responsibility as you can for your individual situation is good advice.
As a social policy criticism, it gets turned into "there's nothing to be done to change this situation, its just the responsibility of individual people."
We understand social context are more likely to produce certain types of social problems.
Like we know how communities that have high rates of unemployment and despair will see more drug abuse. For the individual addict, personal responsibility is an important message. but for the larger social problem, there are casual factors that need to be addressed so the root causes of those problems are dealt with.
This isn't a paradox, but a "conservative" way of dealing with the problems is often to put ot the idea that since every individual person has responsibility, there isn't a need to address systematic causes. Except when its sytematic causes contributing to problems of their constiuents.
This is not a deep dive of a person in the ghetto.
Immortal Technique said it is a true story about a line that must never be crossed.
He said that the people involved do not represent the ghetto.
He said that the people involved in this event all less than human and received street justice within the week.
The reason he kept pushing the hook was to get the point across that doing what they did in this song is never acceptable in any hood.
He goes more in-depth in his interview.
🖤😜
Imagine reacting to this song 15+ years later 😂 you're late homie
KinDA Redundant.
Shilling the definition
Run. You shouldn't have fucked with this song...
It's story telling why does everything have to be based around religion
"Biggie's the best storyteller" facts, the best to ever do it
As far as storytelling rap, you would love The Coup and Boots Riley.
This song got nothing to do with WAR, soooo AGAIN.... WHY IS IT IN THE THUMBNAIL........!!?
he also mentions his mother was originally a crack addict.
One thing about morals and ethics is they have to come from somewhere. If someone doesnt have a family or role models to teach them, they are more likely to get into these patterns. Vin had parents who gave him moral instruction.
Its clear this kid comes from a broken family, a mother who was once a crack addict. Its not an excuse form his actions, but ti does speak to the kind of environment that produced his mentality.
Serious question for you. Do you think someone as gung ho about being Christian as the two of you can be infected with devils? like being possesed by a demon might not always be as overt and detectable as it is in the movies and someone who is pious thinking that his faith would protect him from such an infection but having his demon doing subtile evil.
you know that your girl is scared of you right? ..she wants to comment on so much of what's happening in the song but she's afraid if she hits the pause button you'll hit her
hmm. What you're saying resonates with me. I got interested in developmental psychology, all the baby videos on youtube.
But something that bothered me was a common kind of commentator- its hard to explain but its like they were TOO into babies. I felt like, you do realize they arent going to be babies forever and that everyone alive was once a baby?
I had a hard time putting my finger on it, but what you said makes sense, though I'm not a christian.
People would always emphasize how "innocent" they were. This is true, because babies under a certain age dont have any conception of right or wrong. They dont really fully understand that other people are people with their own wants and needs.
I feel like those people who are so big into the "innocence" of babies are the same sort who complain on videos of toddlers having tantrums how awful they are and how they would never put up with such- despite the fact that tantrums are pretty much a universal feature of human development, where the brain is learning to regulate intense emotions and learn that a caregiver is not simply there to fulfill their desires.
That said, i do wish more of the parents wit the toddler tantrums would after they're done explain why they had to tell a child no and help them understand their own emotional processes. "because I said so" isnt actually teaching good moral reasoning, its important to understand the reasons behind why parents make rules so the child can understand the logic behind the rules and whats being taught.
But yeah, I feel like those commentators are sort of fetishizing babies in a way (not sexually, there's a different meaning there)
Like they are seeing them as discontinous from the rest of humanity, which I think is not going to be good in terms of raising them, because they will be angry when the child inevitably grows past their "innocence" stage and disappoints the parents by no longer being their idealized angel but an actual human being capable of doing crappy things.
Totally agree