The 08 is definitely my favourite British Rail diesel, and this was really interesting to find out. Intriguing how they used their shells for multiple different testing platforms.
they are currently experimenting with one at the severn valley railway by putting a hydrogen engine in it to see if they can viably turn diesel locomotives environmentally friendly. here is the link if you are interested th-cam.com/video/Qo1zp4knSs0/w-d-xo.html
Netherlands also used similar type of class 08 after ww2 the Nederlandse spoorwegen (ns) bought from the war department 10 class 11 and later they even ordered new ones they had 125 of them and they became iconic shutters by the ns they are still in service by other cargo companies still today
After Sodor Ironworks Number 1 “ARRY” and Number 2 “BERT” commandeered and destroyed Gordon’s snowblower in 1967, the Express engine advised Sir Charles topham hatt to buy and rebuild the two diesels to replace the snow-machine that had been reduced to a smouldering heap the month prior. Gordon, when interviewed, would go on to defend this action and think of it as a “Buisness Expense”, he then glanced sparingly towards the duo of rusted diesel shunters in the old siding…”
Even today Network Rail's main classes of snowplough are converted from old steam loco tender frames or built on redundant Class 40 bogies. We do have a snowblower or 2. Originally one for Scotland and one for Network Southeast in BR days, but now they are both based in Scotland.
Converted from STEAM LOCO tender frames?!? Now that is morbid! Imagine being a retiree living happily in your assisted-living community, when all of a sudden some arsehole walks past using your dead brother's bones as a snow shovel. That's how it feels to be a preserved steam engine seeing those snowplows.
@@welsh_Witch They are still in use: search for the article by the National Rail Museum about the Gresley Design that won't die. It won't allow me to post the link sadly.
I do enjoy when you do reel railway niche history. We still have a class 08 in my town. He doesn't do much as not much freight gets stopped at my station but he comes to lend a hand every now and again.
There's also a Eurostar Class 08, with an extended front and rear, and it even has special Eurostar styled couplings. It's number is 08948 if you're curious.
This proves that the Class 08s were guinea pigs. I never knew that a few were converted to snowplows. While you did say it was reported that these were terrible snowplows, is still like to see a OO scale model of one!
Seen it done with a tender, never a locomotive. Tender to plow conversions don’t seem too uncommon, issue here by the sound of it was ballasting issues among other things.
D3035 was the (wrong) number that Triang-Hornby used on the side of their R.152 0-6-0 Armstrong-Whitworth diesel electric shunting loco model, between 1965 until the model's withdraw in 1976. It came in both green and blue British Railways liveries.
@@Gamerguy826 No not really, they were designed mainly as shunters, the 08s would move coaches as well as wagons but only as a station pilot. They were mostly limited to approx 20mph although some were geared to go a little bit faster.
Good vid! Wanted to suggest a topic, why did the Reverend not put the NWR railroad logo or lettering on the engines tenders or sides? I want to model the NWR but the lack of lettering makes it feel lacking with just numbers.
Honestly, this concept could make a pretty tragic Thomas story. A group of diesels that simply wanted to be really useful and really revolutionary as centers for their railway. But then one day, unceremoniously, they are scheduled to be scrapped. Then they got a second opportunity at life, but learn it will be as a snowplow. They are indignant that they’ve been downgraded to that of a glorified truck, but at least they will still be revolutionary pieces of technology, right? But then after one misstep, one that wasn’t even their fault but that of their designers, they were all sentenced to death. Funny how simply personifying an engine can make an embarrassing failure turn into a tragedy.
I think it would be a story worth telling, though. Maybe instead of being scrapped, D6509 could be brought to Sodor, be fixed up at the Dieselworks, and could be used for clearing snowdrifts, landslides, and other obstructions on the line. He could also tell the other engines about his tragic past, how he and his siblings were mistreated and seen as a failure, how he was blamed for a slip-up that was not his fault, how it cost his siblings their lives, and how it left him with survivors guilt. In the long run, it could also help give Diesel and the Ironworks twins some character development, and make them realise that dieselisation is not as revolutionary as they once thought.
Why didn't BR simply retrofit a few existing class 08s to have snowplows on the front while keeping their traction system? TTTE learned this lesson by making merch of Diesel with a snowplow...
"lets not just put a plow on an 08, lets do that but also remove the eninge and side rods and most of the weight but keep the weights on the wheels, this will work perfectly"
You should 1000000000000000000000000% talk about the Romanian Mocănița railways, their history and their engines. Very unknown in western culture but, I tell you, these railways are some of the most interesting you'll ever hear about!
Just a question,why didn’t they leave the diesels running with snowploughs.that would’ve solved the bouncing problem plus leaving the engine alone.If you could can you find an answer?
The community post (I just realized I’m very dumb at to not put it there) reminded me of the BR Class 10, which is just a Class 08 with different gear so it could go faster. And as the 08’s were called ‘Gronks’, that lead to the 10’s being called ‘Super Gronks’. Which, in my opinion, is the best nickname of any loco, cause it sounds like a shitty off-brand super hero
@@DukeOfTrains another unspoken rule of the railways: very rarely do people who know what they're doing get to make the decisions _well, that's actually just capitalism as a whole..._
after watching this, I feel like they would've served better if they kept their self propelled components. I mean, had they not removed said parts, they wouldn't have had such a high center of gravity and the counterweights wouldn't have caused it to bounce off the rails had the rods been left attached. plus with the components left in they could effectively be drive-able snowplows this is all in my own opinion tho
I don’t understand why they would remove so many parts when they could have just slapped the snowploughs on them and called it a day. Things might have gone much smoother, then.
why didn't they just buy snow plows for the railway instead of going through all that money and time. like its so fucking stupid it makes my blood pressure rize
The 08 is definitely my favourite British Rail diesel, and this was really interesting to find out. Intriguing how they used their shells for multiple different testing platforms.
they are currently experimenting with one at the severn valley railway by putting a hydrogen engine in it to see if they can viably turn diesel locomotives environmentally friendly. here is the link if you are interested th-cam.com/video/Qo1zp4knSs0/w-d-xo.html
I’m interested!
Love the adult swim style opening
How doesn't
I'm gonna need the sauce of that intro song,its a vibe and a half
@@imfumo7092 any luck? 😂 I’m tryna find out when he started to use it
Same @@rossitterforbes3201
It's called Eddie Kendricks imitate friends
Netherlands also used similar type of class 08 after ww2 the Nederlandse spoorwegen (ns) bought from the war department 10 class 11 and later they even ordered new ones they had 125 of them and they became iconic shutters by the ns they are still in service by other cargo companies still today
After Sodor Ironworks Number 1 “ARRY” and Number 2 “BERT” commandeered and destroyed Gordon’s snowblower in 1967, the Express engine advised Sir Charles topham hatt to buy and rebuild the two diesels to replace the snow-machine that had been reduced to a smouldering heap the month prior. Gordon, when interviewed, would go on to defend this action and think of it as a “Buisness Expense”, he then glanced sparingly towards the duo of rusted diesel shunters in the old siding…”
I love this headcanon. Never liked Arry and Bert that much any way, so why not have them be turned into 6509’s brothers?
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Yes
I smell story potential!
"..'Elp me.." said a familiar voice, coming from a rusty siding."
Even today Network Rail's main classes of snowplough are converted from old steam loco tender frames or built on redundant Class 40 bogies. We do have a snowblower or 2. Originally one for Scotland and one for Network Southeast in BR days, but now they are both based in Scotland.
Converted from STEAM LOCO tender frames?!? Now that is morbid! Imagine being a retiree living happily in your assisted-living community, when all of a sudden some arsehole walks past using your dead brother's bones as a snow shovel. That's how it feels to be a preserved steam engine seeing those snowplows.
All the old tender plows got retired years ago. Most of them are purpose built snowploughs
@@welsh_Witch I remember them around Buxton in the 1980s-90s.
@@welsh_Witch They are still in use: search for the article by the National Rail Museum about the Gresley Design that won't die. It won't allow me to post the link sadly.
None are on steam frames anymore. The oldest are the class 40 bogie types of which there are four at Doncaster station yard.
Bro they used Class 08 for ANYTHING XD Quality video as always! Thanks for letting me know a very useless but welcoming and interesting information :)
Absolutely brother man, I’m glad you enjoyed! :)
Exactly why i love Class 08s
Something about these class 08s just seems...quite devious
RIGHT? I can’t put my finger on it though 🧐
Murder drones pfp
@@Goofyahh_sharkdoes it matter?
@@loanedengineproductions no
@@Goofyahh_shark then why TF did you mention it????
I do enjoy when you do reel railway niche history. We still have a class 08 in my town. He doesn't do much as not much freight gets stopped at my station but he comes to lend a hand every now and again.
There's also a Eurostar Class 08, with an extended front and rear, and it even has special Eurostar styled couplings. It's number is 08948 if you're curious.
I think a Thomas Short should be about Diesel's nightmare where he sees this happens to his brothers as well as himself
Someone customised his toys on a whole other level
as someone that lives in Doncaster this really interesting. there's a class 08 that lives on an abandoned branch line 2 mins from me
Bring him a snack and he may tell you stories- 👀
Jokes aside that is so awesome man, is it just a siding dweller or does it work in the area?
Cool! I was trying to find some information on these for my own upcoming video, but i couldn't find anything about them
2:00 ayy! Nice to hear a place near me get mentioned!
I would love to see you do a custom diesel model with the snowplough
This proves that the Class 08s were guinea pigs. I never knew that a few were converted to snowplows. While you did say it was reported that these were terrible snowplows, is still like to see a OO scale model of one!
Seeing those Class 08s with snowploughs pretty much inspired my first episode of my series!
> Convert 8 engines into snow plows over a course of 5 years
> only use 1
> It sucks
Seen it done with a tender, never a locomotive. Tender to plow conversions don’t seem too uncommon, issue here by the sound of it was ballasting issues among other things.
D3035 was the (wrong) number that Triang-Hornby used on the side of their R.152 0-6-0 Armstrong-Whitworth diesel electric shunting loco model, between 1965 until the model's withdraw in 1976. It came in both green and blue British Railways liveries.
Awesome video trainboy
This is really funny to see. They just used these diesel for anything but passengers
Yup
But why? Aren't they mixed traffic diesels?
@@Gamerguy826 No not really, they were designed mainly as shunters, the 08s would move coaches as well as wagons but only as a station pilot. They were mostly limited to approx 20mph although some were geared to go a little bit faster.
Shunters not Locos'@@Scotsman60103
Good vid! Wanted to suggest a topic, why did the Reverend not put the NWR railroad logo or lettering on the engines tenders or sides? I want to model the NWR but the lack of lettering makes it feel lacking with just numbers.
Interesting :0
Well... i think is my time to make custom class 08 with snowplough!
You should!! That would be SO awesome dude 👀
Story writers: let's make a story out of this!
And here i thought tenders being converted to plows was a w i l d idea, but this? This- this just takes the cake.
Bro,im doing a WW2 Thomas custom,using a aeg push along
This feels like a game BR made, and has various types of Class 08.
Saw them at March, Lincoln and Doncaster,
Would be a good use for an old Lima train set Class 09 without the coupling rods!
I live in Middlesbrough and I'm lucky enough to have driven a class 08
Honestly, this concept could make a pretty tragic Thomas story. A group of diesels that simply wanted to be really useful and really revolutionary as centers for their railway. But then one day, unceremoniously, they are scheduled to be scrapped. Then they got a second opportunity at life, but learn it will be as a snowplow. They are indignant that they’ve been downgraded to that of a glorified truck, but at least they will still be revolutionary pieces of technology, right?
But then after one misstep, one that wasn’t even their fault but that of their designers, they were all sentenced to death.
Funny how simply personifying an engine can make an embarrassing failure turn into a tragedy.
Not to mention it sounds really lazy and wimpy of the designers to only test one engine once and immediately call it quits after the first mishap!
I think it would be a story worth telling, though. Maybe instead of being scrapped, D6509 could be brought to Sodor, be fixed up at the Dieselworks, and could be used for clearing snowdrifts, landslides, and other obstructions on the line. He could also tell the other engines about his tragic past, how he and his siblings were mistreated and seen as a failure, how he was blamed for a slip-up that was not his fault, how it cost his siblings their lives, and how it left him with survivors guilt. In the long run, it could also help give Diesel and the Ironworks twins some character development, and make them realise that dieselisation is not as revolutionary as they once thought.
Bro like are 08s turning into steamers? (Amazing video.)
At this rate you’d think- 🤣
Thank you so much homie!!
This channel never gets old
Now all we need to know is about the turbo chargers they equipped to the engines that made the 08's break the sound barrier/j
Why didn't BR simply retrofit a few existing class 08s to have snowplows on the front while keeping their traction system? TTTE learned this lesson by making merch of Diesel with a snowplow...
"lets not just put a plow on an 08, lets do that but also remove the eninge and side rods and most of the weight but keep the weights on the wheels, this will work perfectly"
You should 1000000000000000000000000% talk about the Romanian Mocănița railways, their history and their engines. Very unknown in western culture but, I tell you, these railways are some of the most interesting you'll ever hear about!
What if Mattel was consept art project for the character renfrence from you might where in railway series.
I am guessing that O8 diesel shunters are not snow plough compatible
Nice Capcom opening there lol
Thank you brotha man, I’m thinking it’ll be a main stay for at least now 🤣💪
@@ItsTrainBoy Np man, Classic W
Love the intro
Wholesome beginnings
Just a question,why didn’t they leave the diesels running with snowploughs.that would’ve solved the bouncing problem plus leaving the engine alone.If you could can you find an answer?
Oh hey look diesels with snowplows!
*wait what*
I didn’t think snooty diesels were one to wear snowploughs
They didn't wear snowplows, they *became* snowplows.
The class 15s got turned into coach heaters
What is the intro song
Yo what's the intro song?
The 8 bit music sounds familiar
And diesel thought he was unique? Touché.
Devious Diesel with a snowplough….. 😂
Diesel, Paxton and Sydney getting their snowploughs: This feels uncomfortable.🤨
m.th-cam.com/video/4CTIDabSoJE/w-d-xo.html
I guess diesels are revolutionary anymore 😂
Why did they not just put a plow on the 08's as they were? The problems were they took crap off, leave them on and just slap a plow...Solved.
You’d think right?? I guess simple isn’t always the first thing BR goes to 😅
@@ItsTrainBoy Another channel would agree with you, his BR hate is a meme and legendary.
Love the adult swim style
Thank you big homie 💪
@@ItsTrainBoy ah sweet also as csx employee this brings me joy
Seriously a lot of my coworkers are grouchy but hey it can be fun if you make it
These beans are some of the coolest
I know one of those used to be stored in Selhurst rail depot
Nah this is just the Canadian edition for 08s
That’s a good description there we go 🤣
This is the best history class ever
The community post (I just realized I’m very dumb at to not put it there) reminded me of the BR Class 10, which is just a Class 08 with different gear so it could go faster.
And as the 08’s were called ‘Gronks’, that lead to the 10’s being called ‘Super Gronks’. Which, in my opinion, is the best nickname of any loco, cause it sounds like a shitty off-brand super hero
That was the class 09, the 10 had a different prime mover, a GE one (different GE)
Why not ya know leave everything inside it so it can be an under its own power plow
slow innit
@@caramelldansen2204 so are all plows that go under there own power
It's like an un spoked rule of railways
@@DukeOfTrains another unspoken rule of the railways: very rarely do people who know what they're doing get to make the decisions
_well, that's actually just capitalism as a whole..._
after watching this, I feel like they would've served better if they kept their self propelled components. I mean, had they not removed said parts, they wouldn't have had such a high center of gravity and the counterweights wouldn't have caused it to bounce off the rails had the rods been left attached.
plus with the components left in they could effectively be drive-able snowplows
this is all in my own opinion tho
I don’t understand why they would remove so many parts when they could have just slapped the snowploughs on them and called it a day. Things might have gone much smoother, then.
Just give a FUNCTIONING class 08 a plough and call it a day.
Diesel
First made faster
Then made into the human centipede
And finally made into snowploughs
That's me irl
British Railways loved using 08s for experiments didn't they?
Engine Centipede
Could've just made them powered plows and had none of the problems.
why didn't they just buy snow plows for the railway instead of going through all that money and time. like its so fucking stupid it makes my blood pressure rize
*rise
Tranboy I am sorry but I am going to have to keep pestering you until you release that video about your custom lionel diesel
The mega man ass intro B)
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Diesels as snowplows, a Diesel-Centipede, what was BR thinking when making this