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It’s not a new idea as the Rolling Stones etc have been running 2 stage sets for years. So there are 2 stage sets with 3 crews and once a show is finished it’s broken down and taken to the next venue ready for the next show
I understand the sentiment, but yes. As an audio technician that has done shows this size, there usually isn’t a lot of time to mess around. Im also willing to bet the only work he did was in front of a camera. Sorry bud but no room on my crew for that..
Eliju luckily it wasn’t powered on, however if I’m working a festival and I need to route the guest desk through the main drive console I ALWAYS ask the guest engineer before just touching his desk, if he has an issue with that I understand, and help by just telling him where he needs to patch to get the PA.
"For the last 4 days me and the crew worked our tail off". No, Mr show-off presenter. The others worked. You were posing. And probably got cursed off-cam for being in the way. Amazing how the Belgian PM kept his cool. Others would have kicked this loud, self-important American off the stage.
I know what you mean. “Phil Collins and the band”. I remember Phil being interviewed about Pete’s departure when he complained that they were generally referred to as Peter Gabriel’s band. He said how it always irritated the rest of them.
@@djskippa7520 There’s a bit of a difference now. Back then the fan’s KNEW Genesis but had a special ‘affliction’ for Peter. Now, most people a completely clueless as to early Genesis, including W&W, TOTT, TTWT, etc. These people only know Phil. You have to feel sorry for such mindless twits. But mindless twits are very often annoying, huh?
As a little boy when Carnival would come to town here in Buffalo I would always beg my parents to drive by so I can watch the rides being set up. That was the most fascinating amazing thing for me as a child that carried over into adulthood how stuff was set up and taken down I found it amazing that the circus could be in my town at my Arena the Buffalo Memorial Auditorium for 4 days in a row and then the next day my Buffalo Sabres would be in that same Arena floor how did they do it???. I find it always amazing and then I work the changeover crew when the Buffalo Sabres move into the new Arena First Niagara Center HSBC Arena Marine Midland Arena and then I learned how everything was done and it wasn't that interesting anymore. LOL
At about 3:20 into the video, I burst out laughing as I remembered a funny event. Towards the end of the 1970s and the beginning of the 1980s, I worked at the Forum de Montréal, a major sporting and cultural venue in Montreal. Our job was to prepare the arena for the presentation of rock concerts, then to restore it to its primary vocation, the NHL hockey games. One evening in March 1978, after the Rod Stewart concert, as our team was removing the rows of seats arranged on the floor, another employee sweeping the floor exclaimed: "Look what I have just found" . He was holding a condom with his fingertips, which had obviously been used. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to conclude, my dear Watson, that someone had had sex in the middle of the crowd at the show. Was it just the fulfillment of a fantasy on their part, or simply the effect that Rod Stewart had on some people?
I have to admit, I used to dog out Phil on his sappy pop solo stuff. I went and listened to early 70's Genesis, with Steve Hackett, Peter Gabriel, I'll give Phil his due, he jammed on those early records.
whoa man I'm pretty damn sure that stage needed a whole team of civil engineers to evaluate all the risk involved for outdoor concert. it's mind blowing
That power cable is gonna totally secure that 70 pound moving light . . . And they have a computerized keyboard that controls it all . . . good lord . . . learn your business dude.
Except for the title track, the entire band seemed to look down on that album during the later tours, which is a shame. I love "Me And Sarah Jane" and would have liked to have heard live versions of "No Reply At All" and "Dodo/Lurker".
Problem is that Banks thinks he is the most important member of Genesis ! Whilst I recognise his keyboard skills he comes over as the typical public school boy he is , full of entitlement, humourless, and uptight
Yes much kit is standard hire equipment with custom made specific pieces paid for by the band. Incidentally the famous Queen crown aluminium lighting rig was left in a field at Edwin Shirley’s mothers farm in Cranbrook Kent
@@5Antvin I’m watching this, and wondering if the production costs ought to be toned down, considering the… more humble… condition of the band. It probably wouldn’t affect how much LiveNation/TicketMaster will snatch from my purse though…
In the Documentary - Come Rain or Shine, during the production rehearsals Tony Banks remarks that this is what £10 Million gets you. As for daily production costs we don't know.
Touring is planned properly to cover these "costs" the venue held 51,275 concert attendee's.... the band and production crew had a day off before the show and after the show. Obviously the advance crew didn't get those times off...I do believe there was three stage sets but in different amounts as in two full stage sets but an extra kit of one half of the required stuff. Lights and Pa were not duplicated.
Try setting the Taylor Swift: Reputation Tour stage up... legit 40 degree heat. I mean it's normal for Australia but damn it felt like 50. the entire day.
So much effort to put everything together every time, for a tour not terrible in fact. All the songs were transposed - it was soft, I saw them in Paris and I was disappointed. Phil no longer has his voice. It was sorry, but respect anyway, they surely needed cash
I saw clips and didn’t think it was so bad, back when I didn’t know much about their previous two tours. In retrospect, this tour sounded much closer to what will happen later this year.
Evan Keal the light show in 2007 looked like it was on random. No show stopping effects at the end of afterglow nothing. The CGI running man during in the cage was embarrassing. Collins singing in a different key didn’t help matters either plus Tony Banks shitty Korg keyboards sounded plastic
This is sick! The excess of excess. Makes me feel ill. Genesis doesn't need such a grotesque stage as this! Ridiculous.. Genesis: "Let US show YOU just how much money we have to waste!!!" Their music has sucked since 1982!! I'm glad they gave so many others a job, but this is over-the-top! Exactly the things we rebelled against starting in 1977!!!
Imagine being in that stadium, looking to see a band with no video screens and boring lighting... you would feel disconnected from the show because of the perspective of scale.
That's why I got so pissed about that idiot presenter.. who kept referring to Phil Collins.. and at one point even said 'Phil Collins and the Band!!' Cock! personal note as a student I roadied for Genesis on the Lamb Tour in Bristol and Birmingham UK... and way back then.. the Music came first.. and Collins knew his place behind the kit!!!
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I have been at a concert of this tour. The sound was awesome. Respect to the people making this possible.
Well when you’re using V-DOSC it’s kinda hard to make it sound bad.
Thank you for posting this video. I was at concert, best concert ever
Have you experienced 🔥 R➕🔥 ,currently the greatest stadium rock show on the planet?
🤘RAMMSTEIN🤘
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I also enjoyed Collins and Gabriel of course
Le chien de Phil est adorable. Comme son maître. Merci pour ce reportage.
I setup stages in Australia. And stageco has amazing staff and is completely well done.
I have worked with stageco in vegas a few times. They know what they are doing,and are all nice guys
This is a fascinating glimpse of music history.
Rammstein, the Deutsch newhard industrial metal band have 2 stages now mobile for their stadium tour.
Times have moved on 🔥 R➕🔥
Global dominion🤘 🔥 2022
It’s not a new idea as the Rolling Stones etc have been running 2 stage sets for years. So there are 2 stage sets with 3 crews and once a show is finished it’s broken down and taken to the next venue ready for the next show
@@andrewarthurmatthews6685 yep, jagger wouldn't take the stage unless people are paying for a side view
I've watched this twice. this job is so much fun. my legs hurt
That was awesome thank you
maravilloso montaje amigos stage son lo mejor en este espectacular work ....llevado a las alturas ...;)
Homeboy needs to take his hands off that board...
Yeahhhh, that bothered the hell out of me. Like how he was just so cavalier with it, just GRABBING faders like that.
Genesis forever!
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
It was a great thing back then, everything is so updated now.
stageco the pride of Belgium. without doubt.
I miss the old Giants Stadium. Saw lots of great shows there, but never a Giants game!!
WE LOVE GENESIS!!! - Direct from Brazil. 🇧🇷
WOW!!!! Interesting stuff!
10:50 Rick Rocket Torraca.... the white Snoop Dog.
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I knew it. Now my parallel universe thesis makes sense again.
Damn that's a lot of work!
Anybody else get the impression that presenter made a colossal nuisance of himself?
He touched faders on the mixing console. You just don't do that.
Lol! I was just thinking that. The construction workers were probably cussing at him off camera
I understand the sentiment, but yes. As an audio technician that has done shows this size, there usually isn’t a lot of time to mess around. Im also willing to bet the only work he did was in front of a camera. Sorry bud but no room on my crew for that..
Eliju luckily it wasn’t powered on, however if I’m working a festival and I need to route the guest desk through the main drive console I ALWAYS ask the guest engineer before just touching his desk, if he has an issue with that I understand, and help by just telling him where he needs to patch to get the PA.
admirable work!
"For the last 4 days me and the crew worked our tail off". No, Mr show-off presenter. The others worked. You were posing. And probably got cursed off-cam for being in the way. Amazing how the Belgian PM kept his cool. Others would have kicked this loud, self-important American off the stage.
This was made very apparent in the previous scene where he was talking to the camera while failing at hanging a light
the algorithm brought me here. Strangely enough I worked with Gondola in 2014 at the commonwealth games.
I worked that show!
'The safety chain pulls up the moving light' U wot m8?
Someone tell the guy that Genesis is more than just Phil...
I know what you mean. “Phil Collins and the band”. I remember Phil being interviewed about Pete’s departure when he complained that they were generally referred to as Peter Gabriel’s band. He said how it always irritated the rest of them.
@@djskippa7520
There’s a bit of a difference now. Back then the fan’s KNEW Genesis but had a special ‘affliction’ for Peter. Now, most people a completely clueless as to early Genesis, including W&W, TOTT, TTWT, etc. These people only know Phil. You have to feel sorry for such mindless twits.
But mindless twits are very often annoying, huh?
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This is about stage set up on a science channel. It's not about the history of the band.
You stupid fucking idiot.
Did this for kiss - the who - nazerath * Blackfoot ! Pink floyd! Lots of fun good times in the 70's and 80's 😅😅
As a little boy when Carnival would come to town here in Buffalo I would always beg my parents to drive by so I can watch the rides being set up. That was the most fascinating amazing thing for me as a child that carried over into adulthood how stuff was set up and taken down I found it amazing that the circus could be in my town at my Arena the Buffalo Memorial Auditorium for 4 days in a row and then the next day my Buffalo Sabres would be in that same Arena floor how did they do it???. I find it always amazing and then I work the changeover crew when the Buffalo Sabres move into the new Arena First Niagara Center HSBC Arena Marine Midland Arena and then I learned how everything was done and it wasn't that interesting anymore. LOL
Saw this tour in 2007 in Buffalo at the arena where the Sabres play and what a concert it was hoarse for 3 days after..Long live Genesis
In europe they didn't have the rain covers for one or two shows, i think they were lucky and it didn't rain....but did later on at other shows
At about 3:20 into the video, I burst out laughing as I remembered a funny event.
Towards the end of the 1970s and the beginning of the 1980s, I worked at the Forum de Montréal, a major sporting and cultural venue in Montreal.
Our job was to prepare the arena for the presentation of rock concerts, then to restore it to its primary vocation, the NHL hockey games.
One evening in March 1978, after the Rod Stewart concert, as our team was removing the rows of seats arranged on the floor,
another employee sweeping the floor exclaimed: "Look what I have just found" .
He was holding a condom with his fingertips, which had obviously been used.
You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to conclude, my dear Watson, that someone had had sex in the middle of the crowd at the show.
Was it just the fulfillment of a fantasy on their part, or simply the effect that Rod Stewart had on some people?
I have to admit, I used to dog out Phil on his sappy pop solo stuff. I went and listened to early 70's Genesis, with Steve Hackett, Peter Gabriel, I'll give Phil his due, he jammed on those early records.
you are not aware of the un sappy solo work apparently. Early genesis is 30 times more sappy, they just used different lyrical themes.
I know its nine years later but there are five + people on stage. Not just Phil
11:10 the way he said "those for the explosions and light" was sooo funny yet the man was calm XD
Pro tip- unkink the hose if you want water to flow faster.
Fascinating
Awesome amazing 👏👏👏👏👍👍👌
whoa man I'm pretty damn sure that stage needed a whole team of civil engineers to evaluate all the risk involved for outdoor concert. it's mind blowing
unlike woodstock
I sometimes wonder how many deadly accidents it takes to add each layer of engineering to a complex system…
@@iplaypearldrums7935 oh, many minds were still blown at Woodstock… 😸
Everybody knows Belgium is the Headquarters for Rock N Roll. PLEASE!
maybe for Van Damme ....lol
😂😂😂 That’s funny
It would suck if the show got canceled. All that work.
Rammstein European stadium 2022 tour set is over in minutes with no smalltalk
lucky for LEDs they do not burn out or get real hot and will save you money in the long run
It’s hilarious listening to people who have no idea about production talk about show production.
This would be my passion
They did the Kenny Chesney concert stage last year.
and wrestlemania
That power cable is gonna totally secure that 70 pound moving light . . . And they have a computerized keyboard that controls it all . . . good lord . . . learn your business dude.
He's just a stage hand. Most of them are trained to know the setup, not how it works, lol.
How much does this cost, you think it would really cut into Genisus profit margin, plus stadium rental
@@skeeterstevens7083 “It takes money to make money?” 🤷🏿♀️
Stagehands don’t have to know how it works, all they have to know is the words, go, and do.
11:57 I wonder if Wob Roberts has a Wascally pet Wabbit.
Tour itineraries list this as his name. These have to be accurate for insurance and customs reasons.
that's a bodacious pair of shorts
wow,,who knew Genesis were that big....
everyone but you bozo !!
I was at that show great Concert wish they would have played some off the Abacab album
Except for the title track, the entire band seemed to look down on that album during the later tours, which is a shame. I love "Me And Sarah Jane" and would have liked to have heard live versions of "No Reply At All" and "Dodo/Lurker".
14:08 = phil's cousin??
Wow Wow Wow
this host seems more like a Five Finger Death Punch kinda guy
Jason Lee is right.. Genesis most important member is (what i think) Tony Banks👍🏻
Problem is that Banks thinks he is the most important member of Genesis ! Whilst I recognise his keyboard skills he comes over as the typical public school boy he is , full of entitlement, humourless, and uptight
vai Soccoli!
Magic Gondola
Me trying to see how bts concerts are made
Same😁
This is Genesis
Same lol
same here😂
@@johnmcsusan943 YEHA WE KNOW .
ITS CONCERT Stage so
great
Wow !
Someone tell Jets fans to clean up after themselves.
#Murrica
Shout out to the dude who re-locked the safety after taking the light out. Rocket was not impressed.
Power cables shows dmx cable
que mega pouca para louvar um deus pagão !.....
I wonder where all this custom stuff ends up after the tour is over.
Yes much kit is standard hire equipment with custom made specific pieces paid for by the band.
Incidentally the famous Queen crown aluminium lighting rig was left in a field at Edwin Shirley’s mothers farm in Cranbrook Kent
I bet you the Jets lost the evening before
What’s the total concert production cost?
In the official documentary Come Rain or Shine, in Europe at the Expo Halle in Brussel's. Tony remarks to Mike that's what £10 million buys you.
@@TheGenesisArchive
and that cost is reflected in the ticket prices ---
@@5Antvin I’m watching this, and wondering if the production costs ought to be toned down, considering the… more humble… condition of the band.
It probably wouldn’t affect how much LiveNation/TicketMaster will snatch from my purse though…
Looks expensive.
He seems really unhelpful
A dude like this would be kicked off from the production by the end of 1st day, amazed that they've let him in for the soundchecks. Really annoying
I wonder how much $$$ came out of their pockets for that set up they paid for that
In the Documentary - Come Rain or Shine, during the production rehearsals Tony Banks remarks that this is what £10 Million gets you. As for daily production costs we don't know.
Not sure if I just missed it, but looks like some folks didn't safety in.
+Peter Garland You probably won't care after a year, but that's pretty normal. Schedule is way to tight to always use safety while climbing.
+teschi Yeah I don't really care, neither will the family of the crew member who falls. Speed is what is important
they send the body back home in an anvil case
Kinda hard to safety in when there’s nothing to safety too.
Christ, did Genesis make any money on that tour?
It grossed $130 Million... not sure what the net was.
TheGenesisArchive just wondering, that big of a production, 4 days to set up. Must’ve been some time before they started making $.
Touring is planned properly to cover these "costs" the venue held 51,275 concert attendee's.... the band and production crew had a day off before the show and after the show. Obviously the advance crew didn't get those times off...I do believe there was three stage sets but in different amounts as in two full stage sets but an extra kit of one half of the required stuff. Lights and Pa were not duplicated.
TheGenesisArchive thanks man, it was quite a production, but I’m assuming they played all big venues.
@@robwhite2457 “Go big or go broke?” 😕
Try setting the Taylor Swift: Reputation Tour stage up... legit 40 degree heat. I mean it's normal for Australia but damn it felt like 50. the entire day.
wwe raw
Der Typ stört den Aufbau....
All that just for one gig...
Meade77 *mäh* 🤗 Just the usual stuff
Love that band..but yeah.. pretty insane
@@12xx12100 An impressive structure indeed.
OSHA would have a fit i f they saw those guys @ 5:50 not "tied off".....harnesses not attached....w/ a D ring
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a concert with chairs ??? wtf is wrong with you haha
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This guy thinks that Genesis is just Phil Collins.
Cringed when the host of the show started moving the faders on the FOH console. not cool.
Dennis
4:26 Imagine being born on this planet just to be bossed around by someone like that. No thanks.
It seems you’re more offended by this person’s _appearance_ than the idea of existing only as an _employee…_
So much effort to put everything together every time, for a tour not terrible in fact. All the songs were transposed - it was soft, I saw them in Paris and I was disappointed. Phil no longer has his voice. It was sorry, but respect anyway, they surely needed cash
I saw clips and didn’t think it was so bad, back when I didn’t know much about their previous two tours. In retrospect, this tour sounded much closer to what will happen later this year.
The worst Genesis stage and light show ever. They were the leaders in design throughout the 70’s and 80’s but they got U2 big and lost the edge,
Agree, but We Cant Dance tour was just as bad.
Evan Keal yes I saw that tour. I guess the giant screens are more important than lighting design
@@alvogeljr Yeah, I despise them with every ounce of my soul. Lights are cool, video is like sleeping pills to me.
In hindsight, 1992 and 2007 were very similar, not much lighting, what there was was not interesting, but tons, literally tons of video.
Evan Keal the light show in 2007 looked like it was on random. No show stopping effects at the end of afterglow nothing. The CGI running man during in the cage was embarrassing. Collins singing in a different key didn’t help matters either plus Tony Banks shitty Korg keyboards sounded plastic
This is sick! The excess of excess. Makes me feel ill. Genesis doesn't need such a grotesque stage as this! Ridiculous.. Genesis: "Let US show YOU just how much money we have to waste!!!" Their music has sucked since 1982!! I'm glad they gave so many others a job, but this is over-the-top! Exactly the things we rebelled against starting in 1977!!!
It's called "show business", not sensible needs business.
Imagine being in that stadium, looking to see a band with no video screens and boring lighting... you would feel disconnected from the show because of the perspective of scale.
That's why I got so pissed about that idiot presenter.. who kept referring to Phil Collins.. and at one point even said 'Phil Collins and the Band!!' Cock! personal note as a student I roadied for Genesis on the Lamb Tour in Bristol and Birmingham UK... and way back then.. the Music came first.. and Collins knew his place behind the kit!!!
Yeah this dude is annoying.
Man..gotta say...not impressed with any of this...too much... just a band plugged in...it didn't used to take 18 wheelers to set up a good show..
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