Oh my god. My game has more revenue because the game is more predatory and more expensive to clear content that must mean the game is better, right ???
It’s more like, I won’t bother playing other games and will stick to my current game, which is at the top of the revenue charts. After all, the games with lower revenue will probably end their service soon anyway.
we've seen what kuro does with 10m (according to these fake charts), imagine what they do with 30m who cares about 100m+ revenue when bare minimum goes back into the game
On top of that, see how they developed 2.0 with that "little" revenue? And now if double even triple of that? I have hope for future wuwa, hopefully they do deliver as they promise
you do relies this site only shows Mobile sales right? We aren't seeing PC or console sales dude most these games wish they make 10M month, that's still amazing, just crazy that Mihoyo makes like 30-50M is crazy especially ZZZ really only good game they have after Hi3 which lucky makes 3M a month
Comparing gacha revenue is like k-pop fans comparing album selling numbers to defend their idol's commercial success... That's why I currently deemed Hoyo as a virtual Idol creation company instead of gaming company. Hoyo basically produces virtual idols with some stories and yes they made alot from that fan economy because fan economy is a bigger marketplace. Imagine how much would a gamer pay to support a game and how much would a fanboy pay to support their idols.
i guess but Wuwa wasn't doing well at first how bad release was, just hope now with 2.0 it does better. The thing is people keep saying Genshin is stagnating how the fuck they still top 5?
@@kyotheman69 you still trust that revenue chart? this chart is a joke which is based on Genshin's revenue of previous year. I could say that Genshin's revenue dropped half comparing to last year based on the ios rank descending in overall and the real situation could be worse. Still top5? Top 5 is an amazing result compared to past? Dude, imagine its playerbase back then during 2022-2023. The player base basically cut half and more. Wake up. The only region that is still doing well is JP even in CN it's dropped alot (in 2024 it's normall rank~10 in the first day and rank3-5 if there is fomo practise like the double new banner thing but will immediately drop to rank~20 the next day. in 2023, it's normally rank 1-3 at least and will stick for several days for top10. see the difference?).
@@kyotheman69???? WW is doing well from the start, we always don't know how much PC revenues they got and so much misinformation about WW's revenues in the past months. And this revenue is still misinformation because Solon stated that They got the highest revenue in this January compared to other months and mind you past revenue (mobile only) stated that WW got $40M USD on launch month. So yeah just skip Revenue posts altogether because all of them are just misinformation.
@@kyotheman69 "stagnating" in this context didn't specify to their revenue but rather their overall qol mechanics. It's "stagnating" because for 4 years hoyo didn't bother to update their qol. They have qol updates but it's locked behind a paywall which in return forces the players to pull for that specific character and get so much money out from it. At this point, only sunk cost fallacy is what keeps the game alive.
i dont see why wuwa is mentioned there at all, to be honest. its just not worth it. enjoying wuthering waves in THAT space is one of the biggest uphill battles in gacha gaming. there are some psychos who actually dedicate full days like a 9-5 to hate wuwa and its community. its crazy. and the funniest part about it is that these people get upvoted like they have an army of bots waiting to vindicate any anti-wuwa take no matter how ignorant, bias or generally stupid. the best thing we can do as a community is to never engage with bad actors and bias communities like this because no matter how reasonable or cordial you are with these people, no matter how much your take is based in fact and truth, youll still get shit on and called "toxic" for having the audacity to voice your opinion thats positive on wuwa. its NOT worth it.
i think they just cant accept the fact that a game theyve been playing for the past 4/5 years got surpassed so easily so they are just trying their best to make wuwa look ugly, i dont get it tbh, there is no need to be a war, i play both games, but i just simply think wuwa did better job since devs are ACTUALLY listening to the players and hoyo did not, and i think wuwa doesnt derserve the hate so i joined the war, i dont hate the game, i just dont like the community, SPECIALLY when i saw what they did to macro
@qiannaxdd wtf are you even talking about all wuwa cc start from hating on genshin. Can't build an actual community without shitting on the game but then cry when the gen community fights back. Too funny
these people shill to hard for their set game, when these games shouldn't be your "main game" single player games or anything you can play for longer period of time should be. Gacha games should be treated as side games, just play when you do have time, don't stress over dailys most these games barely give anything.
@@vutrantrunghieu2016 All top wuwa exclusive CCs are like this channel, their content is mainly to trash hyv and glaze wuwa so hard that they suddenly forgot that ' having the highest SINGLE-DAY revenue' does not mean 'having the highest MONTHLY revenue' they just conveniently forgot the other 29-ish days in which wuwa may or may not perform as good as the first day. And ppl acting like a victim in the comment section when they r the ones who start this topic cuz they can't just sit still seeing their game lost On the other hand, hyv exclusive CCs almost never talk about wuwa or revenue pvp they just don't care Btw I'm playing both games and also support wuwa's other kind of CCs which r rare and unfortunately not as popular since wuwa fans seem to love to hate hyv more than they love their own game
fellas let's be real here if Wuthering Waves consistently outearns other gachas and rank top 5 on all these charts Saint won't be keep making videos emphasizing the revenue isn't accurate a lot of the people commenting here will also change their attitude and keep praising Wuwa instead
ultimately facts don't care about your feelings a lot of the arguments here are made based on hate, bias to drive an agenda against genshin "natlan sucks and players are quitting, natlan characters are not popular and no one is pulling, genshin is dying, genshin is boring blah blah blah" none of these statements are backed by any factual evidence and when you look up the engagement stats on social media about genshin, or compare different revenue charts for diversity of stats, or just look up video and stream viewcounts etc. you'd realize Genshin is doing just fine and its the only the loud minorities like the genshin haters and "boycotters" keep telling you the game is flopping hard rn
won't be surprising if Hoyo themselves literally laundered their money by paying their own community to keep spending in the game just for statistics, this is the same company that uses viewbotting on Twitch, and announcing their proud take on using AI for voice acting.
"The numbers Mason, what do they mean?" People think Sensor Tower provides financial statements lol. Sensor tower provides the information it intended to. The purpose of the tower isn't to show revenue, the numbers can be anything really, so long as it reflects the trends. If there's an increase of 60%, then the 28m doesn't matter, what matters is that there's an increase. Market researchers will then figure out why. If Genshin Impact took back first place, it doesn't matter how much money they say it gained, what matters is that now they are first, so what did they do differently? Most of these numbers are based on a model. That model functions in a vacuum. There is way too much it does not take into consideration. Sensor tower is like a pointer, it shows you where to look depending on what you are searching for.
When your game is making hundreds of millions of dollars per patch but their CEO is out there crying crocodile tears in order to gaslight you into believing that it’s impossible to code a skip button and artifact loadouts…and you believe him 😂😂😂
but sadly it is a fact that coding skip button is lost ancient technology and it cost hundreds if not billion of dollars. Implementing it in Genshin is in the realm of impossibility.
If this turns out a correct report of revenue, it would be another bitch slap to all GI players because look how much their favorite game earned for the month of January and yet most of their problems with the game is still not being resolved. It's literally like corruption.
Solon's report is also reported to the company board and the investors a.k.a Tencent that 2.0 has pulled in a record high in sales, that cannot be a lie since if they did I'm quite sure there are legal ramifications for that in CN and knowing Tencent they would bury Solon deep in the ground if that was the case lmao. What I'm assuming is that PS5 and PC carried the revenue so hard, also people are forgetting that these gacha games already have a direct recharge at their website that could offer better value for customers that won't reflect in this guesstimate chart and this is only iOS I believe so android sales records are not counted, I also saw someone tweeted on X that the CEO of PaperGames the devs of Infinity Nikki that PC and consoles accounts over 50% of domestic sales and 80% of their overseas market, so who's to say that the same don't apply to WuWa But all in all, this propaganda revenue chart is pretty much useless anyways since as I like to say a $2000 shit would always sell/earn more than $1000 gold but it doesn't make shit better than gold, it just means there are just many dumbahh that buy overpriced shit
i know its illegal here to lie on these(France) and i doubt its very different in other countries. Otherwise, you get stuff like the crap with Elizabeth Holmes(look it up if you dont know). Anyway, any people taking this seriously EVEN if their favorite game is on top, is a complete moron. It literraly mean this person is easy to influence. Literraly : a complete idiot. The methodology is basically : "i feel like these are the correct numbers" Numbers don't care about feelings : it's true datas or its not. I fucking hate these people.
Extactly the main point. Only if your an investor or an employee in the company should you really care about revenue as then your financial incentived todo so. As for a player the only thing that maybe important for you about revenue charts/player numbers is just to make sure your favourite game isnt EOSing anytime soon so you get to plan to jump ship early (which for 99% of the popular gachas they are making enough profits for this tobe not the case).
That true in cn as well for someone who is from there, if you did this in china and lied, it be very bad, anyways these aren't the first internal devs message by Solon which they are called because others were released before like in 1.4 and 1.1, so everything he saying there is true, also it accounting total revenue across all platforms so like PC,PS5, mobile that why he said highest single day revenue for wuwa, anyways it not Solon first time doing a internal message on wuthering waves
U can’t go look at wuwa’s previous highest monthly revenue and say wuwa must’ve received more than this in a single day according to the prez cuz he reported that wuwa has the highest SINGLE DAY revenue since launched not MONTHLY revenue. We have no info about the situation of the other 29-ish days which need to be included in the calculation of monthly revenue and we don’t know just how much this highest single day revenue is
I sometimes keep up with the r/gachagaming page on Reddit & I look at the number of downvotes & you can tell they have an agenda going like what @Saintontas has mentioned in this video.
It's crazy how much money hoyo getting from genshin and still providing such poor contents, and ppl out there still paying up, I guess they are very used to low quality content since they never had a good one, once i played wuthering waves, I can't go back to genshin anymore, the world is so big but running cost stamina? Can't even fly only if pay for the character? That's just wild
crazy because wuwa literally feels like a low-quality open world game with zero optimizations on mobile and redesigned assets from genshin. But ofcourse, wuwashills continue to circlejerk on kektone and santontas vids to make themselves feel better, pathetic. Nobody cares about your game outside your little echochamber
@@scarfazexoxo this is how dumb hoyoshills are....my game is more predatory and your proud to eat slop/shit, I'm very happy for hoyo brainwashing this noobs.... but don't worry FTC already stepped in and this will be your last delulu revenue sponsored by r/gachahoyoshills
@@Tervezo001 I love it when people reduce the word Asia to 3 countries A Afghanistan Armenia Azerbaijan B Bahrain Bangladesh Bhutan Brunei C Cambodia China Cyprus G Georgia I India Indonesia Iran Iraq Israel J Japan Jordan K Kazakhstan Kuwait Kyrgyzstan L Laos Lebanon M Malaysia Maldives Mongolia Myanmar N Nepal North Korea O Oman P Pakistan Palestine Philippines Q Qatar R Russia S Saudi Arabia Singapore South Korea Sri Lanka Syria T Taiwan Tajikistan Thailand Timor-Leste Turkey Turkmenistan U United Arab Emirates (UAE) Uzbekistan V Vietnam Y Yemen
Me just have fun with Wuwa 2.0 *Some random sites just drop revenue* Hoyoshills : See!!! Wuwa didn’t make 99m$ this month!!! 😂😂😂 EOS soon!!! Genshin completely crush Wuwa!! Me : oh that revenue again? I am sorry but what revenue? Da Wei May cry revenue? I am just enjoying Rinascita too much oh? and thise gacha revenue? only for reference ok? Hoyoshills : but Wuwa is so boring , everything is so ****. Me : Ah…Please hate Wuwa more that you guys are actually give Kuro a free ads!🤣🤣🤣
@@Sao0011 wuwashills and their weird headcannons back at it again💩 literally no one talks like this in the community bozo, the majority of the genshin playerbase doesn't even know what wuwa is, only a small minority do.
why do this guy makes a video talking about revenue not being important every month? he made like 4 videos already we get it revenue isn't important then stop talking about in your videos then lol
just your typical wuwashill coping with the fact that their games aren't beating genshin. Less revenue, less playercount, less viewcounts, much less social media fanart, lore discussion, theorycrafting talks, and the wuwa cc spend half of their time on stream comparing the game to genshin and keep reminding their audience wuwa is better and all the revenue charts are scam. when you point out these to compare they get mad at you and deny the reality and tell you "its about quality, quality decides which one is winning!"
@@hifumienjoyer69 you have a point but overall quality i do believe Wuwa is superior though and I prefer Wuwa over Genshin. However I find in the EN community many wuwa fans sound bitter when Genshin is brought up.
@@hifumienjoyer69Lol. It only shows how hoyoshills got scammed by your lord Da Wei to spend money for their pockets not to improve the game. 😂 GI 5.4 and HSR 3.0 look shit. 😂
@@Altair_Ibn_La_Ahad look like shit according to who. if a game has less revenue, much less active players who are willing to draw the characters talk about the lore and story, less cc who focus on their own games, it really implies which game is more popular and successful. If you want to make a good argument about how revenue doesn't reflect success and popularity I welcome you.
to make fun of the hoyotards fuming over wuwa not EoSing yet. And it's even funnier that these shills in gacha wars were so proud of how hoyo milked them they downvote people who like wuwa because they couldnt stand it when someone prefers a MUCH QUALITY game than the game that milked them lmao
Remember folks high revenue ≠ good game What makes revenue chart stupid is that it's not really accurate and i doubt these companies will just reveal their profit easily for privacy purposes. There's a reason why Solon Lee didn't specify the amount of money they received on their twitter post. No need to make fuss over this stupid chart. Let the qol updates and awards kuro received do the talking.
😂😂😂 if Genshin had 29 million .. this turd would make 10 videos saying oh my god hoyo is dying Genshin is dying .. wuwa has great number with respect I love wuwa .. but suddenly oh we won’t criticise any game .. we are saint we never bully anybody . Don’t don’t want any wars .. we will have wars when Genshin has a bad result which it will someday .
The fact that Wuwa is doing that well on mobile even though the game is not compatible with many phones because of how much space it needs causing it to constantly crash on some phones is amazing. Since that made majority of the players be on pc or wait for it to be available on ps5.
He'll probably say "that's nice" and move on. Are we actually going to believe the logic of a gacha game being the best in its category by its revenue numbers when Genshin is one of the top right now, a game that a lot of us used to play and know it's not in its best state right now?
@@Tunnelsnakes full cap. you know the bias is there and if wuwa takes the top 3 spot on any gacha game revenue report this guy will post a vid praise it every month and the comments here will say the devs deserve, kuro games W, Genshin is beaten and dying etc.
@@tryhardsensei I mean, you can always refer him to this video in the future if he ever does. And if that's the case, he can either accept accountability or he doesn't. Going by a lot of his videos, he doesn't seem to be the kind of guy that is habitually hypocritical or would go back on his word unlike another person in the space as of recent. Otherwise, you're just accusing him of a wrongdoing for something that has never happened as of yet.
@@Tunnelsnakes Isn't saintontas the kind of guy who hates false information but he did it himself and no one called him out? Remember what he's saying about gacha system in Endfield? Stop defending his dramatuber slop.
Tbh, I never never really trust that gacha revenue thing. Yeah Genshin won. But guess what? It will just go to Da Wei's pocket and their games will stay shit. 😂 A predatory company successfully scammed players. 😂👎🏻
What I don't like is that people are still trying to make an argument around these numbers, like "10 million is still high bro". We shouldn't even entertain the idea that the game earned 10 mil, because it's bullshit. If you checked any official data about game's revenue, that was featured on tower, you would know that their numbers aren't even close to being accurate. A good example would be ToF, which was doing pretty damn badly according to tower, but then, magically, earned hundreds of millions dollars in the official investor report. Don't take this shit seriously, and don't act like these numbers are close to reality, because by doing so, you will only solidify it in the eyes of morons.
@@theskywalker8416 It was a success since the game more than quintupled its initial investment. I bet sony and bioware wish they had made ToF instead of concord and dragon age the veilguard.
@@theskywalker8416on the global side - yes, but we have an undeniable proof that it earned hundreds of millions dollars, that being report to investors from perfect world. Just because it's popular to shit on it doesn't suddenly make its revenue nonexistent.
Genshin Impact doing absolutely amazing, but the fans are absolutely COOKED. They have shown that they can made a predatory gacha timing by releasing 2 new characters that is BIS to each other at the same time, and locking the reward AFTER their banner, and they still made that much money? 💀💀💀 The message is clear. They can do it and will get away with it. Good luck Genshin fans.
this sounds like a bitter comment to me. many ppl here say revenue isnt important yet they still talk about it and this guy make a video emphasizing revenue chart is fake every month. if wuwa makes 100m a month i bet a lot of the ppl here and wuwa cc will be cheering instead.
@@criticalthinker6317 wuwa players from day 1 have not cared about revenue, Genshin bots always bring it up when someone brings up the fact that genshin is such a shitty game now with devs that couldnt care less about its players
@@ryank6160 if they don't then why wuwa cc talk about revenue chart every month and say its inaccurate? if you go through this guy's videos you'd see in every gacha revenue vid he keeps talking about its fake we get it sure. and the fans in the comments keep saying genshin sucks, genshin earns more mean nothing etc. its getting salty and makes it look like many wuwa fans DO seem to get bothered by the fact that genshin is earning much. otherwise they won't bother to care about any games and focus on the positives of wuwa instead.
@@ryank6160 If the game truly is shitty then it will be dying people will quit the game for other games but its not. Its still one of the most played gacha game with most active fanbase who are willing to create art, talk about story and combat, contribute financially etc. I used to be one of the those anti Hoyo haters but I guess its time to let go. If we keep bringing this up it just makes this community look like we keep comparing ourselves to hoyoshills in that regard.
The only supported base hoyoshill can stand upon ( that too in the wrong way ), once you remove Gacha revenue out of the equation and talk hoyoshills are practically baseless in the conversation
All the Hoyo shills absolutely coping because the game made almost 30 mill on mobile alone. Lmao 😂 Doesn't even include PC and their new bread maker the gachastation 5.
Why does all wuwa cc use genshin bad to build their channel. You dont see gen cc shit on wuwa just go and compare the why wuwa is bad to why genshin is bad. You guys start this community war and then move the goal post consistently. Ths guys whole personilty is about how deep he can go on kuro 🍆
I don't even call them CC, they are only good at picking drama and making comparisons, real CCs are those who actually make fun gameplay videos, guide or tutorials, like Rate up radio or Steparu
Without genshin blueprint neither wuwa can be made nor wuwa cc can build their channel 😂. Such is their pathetic display rather than speaking about own game wuwa ccs farm genshin hatred for views. Reality is completely opposite FOR NATLAN !!!!!!!!!
@@elijah7616 so I saw a video comparison of Wuwa and Natlan. Damnmnnn glad i'm playing wuwa instead of that shitty ahh power of friendship thing they got. It's also going the harem route, more fun having harem i guess. Wuwa sets standards lmao
Listen if I were a greedy ceo living in the hellscape of urbanized china and someone told me there was a near infinite exploitable resource; I too would farm the mentally ill. They'll believe anything including this chart. The game makes so much money they'll accept 3 poses fade to black yapfests with double release banners and ceo's fake crying over nonissues. Pennies to dollars easy. Didn't they have to verify a claim that Kuro made a tweet about their highest revenue to date? But yet this is lower than that by more than 1/2? Patch was Jan 2nd. This is SeaseePea levels of propaganda.
Huh? Genshin makes more money=good game??? Wuwa is one of the most F2P games in gacha gaming compared to Genshin which is the most greedy and Fomo in gacha gaming // sry but wuwa is game and players first then gacha unlike Jenshin is money and gacha first before game and then players and labdog🤣🤣🤣
Its funny how the HoyoShills come to this video just to spread hate. They can’t ignore a Video from a creator that plays WuWa lmao so petty, but i guess nobody cares about the Redit post anymore, so they have to vent their frustration somewhere else
Who imagined that forcing (by FOMO) people to pull a character that is overhyped and its BiS because they wouldnt give you free wishes would make them an insane amount of money.
Isn't it odd that they're the ones the 120 fps is locked with? The sh!t apple doesn't fall from the sh!t tree. You smell that Randy? Sh!t hawks and they're eating their own sh!t randy.
Everyone stopped covering gacha revenue charts. EXCEPT the guy that kept crying about it being fake. You looked at a message of the developer that says that they have had a SINGLE day of best revenue and you are comparing it to an entire month of revenue. Idk why this chart triggers you people so much, it's just an information on every gacha game, it's made the same way for every game, but y'all treat it as it is made solely with the intent of clowning on Wuwa, these charts were made way, way before this game was released and nobody made a big deal out of it, but y'all are so sensitive that you have to cry about it every single time.
it shows a lot of wuwa cc are insecure and fuel their audience with anti genshin hatred its obvious here seeing the comments and many ppl keep deny it if you ever follow other gacha game cc who play games like azur lane, blue archive, reverse 1999 or even the solo leveling game they are all focusing on their own games and analyzing the sales and banner quality only wuwa cc keep making videos every month reminding their audience the chart is a scam for some reason
Nothing you said changes this ranking, and it's also nothing new for anyone who has been playing Gatcha for a long time. Everything you said is valid for any game that has multiple platforms. Which means that even Genshin, instead of 99, could have 140/150, for example. This is all valid for any game. But this ranking wouldn't change much, how could ZZZ and Wuwa, for example, reach at least 99m coming from just almost 30m? The ranking wouldn't change much. Now, if Wuwa were in the TOP1 on this list, I'm sure the conversation in this video would be different. Im sure wuwa players will talk crazy things about others games. But since Kuro Games can't do that, players now say "oh who cares about revenue, nobody cares, blah blah blah". The profits of companies always matter, because it is from these profits that the games can improve or worsen. Don't forget that Kura sold part of its company exactly because of this. And don't forget that, even when playing on other platforms, there are people who pay for their purchases through GooglePlay (I play on PC and I do this), which means that part of the sales even on other platforms already show up in this table.
at least my game is have enough and improve so much. comparing to the game that always have a huge revenue but there is no improvement that have impact for their players including old/veteran player *not just one game, but two games in the same company that i want to recall in my statement. if you know what i mean 🤣
As a dolphin I’m doing my part on pc with 5 s6r1s 😅. Skipping Roccia and Phoebe but when Brant comes out I will tell myself I’ll only go s0r1 but then end up spending when I’ll roleplay as Spider-Man with anchors. 😂
@ I’ve honestly been rly lucky and only lost a few 50/50s and you can buy 2 copies in store. It’s still not that cheap but NOWHERE near what it takes to c6 in hoyo games. The rates are better here and pity is lower.
it's not dead for sure, but it's laughable to see the quality difference for having high revenue. lmao dont cry, da wei will do it for you. Then go continue eating up unvoiced contents, and sloppy QoLs no one ever asked for.
GI and HSR fans deserve whatever the harsh treatment they got from Hoyo. Because no matter what they gonna buy into sunk cost fallacy. At this point I don't think people actually enjoy the game, but rather which game is more popular.
Most of them are just deceiving themselves to liking the game, when most of the thing you do there is a chore, including the bloated main stories... LOL...
@@rxceeddid it never occur to you that maybe the reason these games do so well is because they're actually good games? but nah, mindlessly consuming santontas and kektone slop made an already dumb audience dumber. Can't blame us for not liking a low quality game like wuwa that's essentially just a glorified hack-and-slash with cringy voice acting and unnatural-looking character movements. Not to mention how the game literally took a handful of genshin's game assets and redesigned it as their own.
nothings gonna change. if you needed more proof that the hoyo community might actually be the most braindead in the space, you had multiple people DEFENDING hoyoverses scam and even celebrating that it worked. crazy work.
@@scarfazexoxo wow, did it also never occured to you how mindless your comment was??? If this is a slop content??? Then what are you doing here??? Unnatural looking??? Oh, yes... Flying motorcycles are natural looking, I guess...
Gacha Revenue isn't very credible for outside of mobile. The sample population, for the revenue, came entirely from mobile data. Meaning the trends showcased is not representative of the whole population. You could make an argument for mobile trends. But in this case, the sample is too biased to make bold claims outside of mobile. Utilizing mobile trends would only make sense if Mobile data and PC data were even. But it's blatantly obvious that you would get more useful data from a PC sample because it's representative for the majority of WuWa players. Mobile data is too insufficient to account for PC data. Reasonably speaking, there would be a significant difference between PC trends and Mobile trends.
Just a reminder to everyone: ToF averaged 600k to 1mil per month in the gachagaming charts. Their recent revenue report for the entire company stated they earned an equivalent of over 680mil in that year, thats already considering the cut for tencent and playstation. Its not even 5% of what they made. Snowbreak also had something similar, while I don’t have the specifics, the numbers were lower in the gachagaming charts than it should be when calculating from their public revenue report from the company themselves. The charts are just straight up estimates and simply inaccurate. It should not be taken seriously.
@@thesseus1332 Snowbreak is public on their reddit or some YT videos .. theyve had event showing revenue ... it was not even close to the fake sensor tower BS.
i saw some vids regarding their upcoming filler patch that will only give them 9k+ primogems for the whole patch (50 wishes for a whole month is crazy even with that big revenue) lmao
because he's stupid simple as that 😂. None of this cc is smart even though he keep saying this gacha revenue is fake unreliable and bla bla bla he still make a video about it 😂
Gacha reddit is just a circlejerk echochamber, they blatantly hate kuro, when ltb they are among the better gacha companies. Do they feel it's their job to shit on kuro?
me when my fav sport team loses to the rival team by more than 3x the score: "who cares that game is completely irrelevant" xDD. love and deepspace the GOAT.
its based from estimates. they use monthly downloads plus playerbase and ratings. These companies dont release their earnings to the public, closest one is solon from kuro games where he said they've surpassed their highest single day revenue back in 2.0 Hoyoverse combined are earning more than 200 million per month at minimum. But the money seems to not go into making their games better
@KINGS0FA1 But is it so bad that it's unreliable? These rankings and revenue seems legit when seeing the playerbase and popularity. Even if the real data was released, the rankings wouldn't be too far off?
I rather they just stop doing this completely. There will be idiots out there that will take this revenue list as the bible and start spouting dumb takes all over the place.
I really don't understand how gachas like WuWa even make money. I love the game, but the lack of an end game baffles me, and with how long banners are, there seems no reason to even spend.
lets take a second and say that the numbers in the list are true 10000% how the fuck does that benefit you as a customer / player ? yeah genshin did 100 milion that hardly even a penny will go into the game since the game is stale as it gets for the last 5 years with every "qol" update either not being qol or straight up making things worse
It is so damn stupid to compare multi-platform game revenue with single platform games. Each game will have varying market share of different markets. It's not even a percentage you're comparing, it's a percentage of a percentage.
7:42 bro got downvoted to -9 for the most nonaggressive comment of him liking that a game who enjoys is doing well and is happy about it. No comparison except to its previous earning in the 1st month (with very inaccurate charts too mind you). This is just sad
I love how in all these revenues discussions, no one ever brings up that revenue ≠ profits. A game/ movie with huge production and marketing costs might not make as much as a much cheaper production. It’s the reason why big movie Blockbusters can earn some of the highest amounts of money for a movie that year and yet still lose money for the company. Hoyo might have the highest revenue, but unless we know their production/ marketing/ straight up wastage, we might never know if they’re truly earning more than Kuro games or any of the other games here.
I think if you believe in something well enough you shouldn't be worried about other people not believing it. If I believe wuwa is the best gacha game then I shouldn't wait for a random revenue chart to back up my belief... I don't really care how much these companies earn because I'm not a shareholder by any means, I'm simply a consumer... and if the product is bad, I'll stop consuming it, as simple as that... All I know is that I'll keep playing wuwa and supporting it till it goes eos because I've developed attachment to the game; but in return I'm glad that the devs aren't making my experience miserable... a random guesstimate chart shouldn't be getting that much attention in the first place; whether you're someone who hates wuwa or not, you shouldn't really need to have your favourite game on top of these charts as a proof of your enjoyment. Therefore I don't need wuwa to be on top in order to enjoy it. I enjoyed it all the way since 1.0 and I'll keep doing so... we shouldn't be giving attention to these charts, it's such a braindead argument to begin with...
6:57 tbf, thats most of reddit and not just isolated to gacha. You can't have opposing views on that site at all or views that dont go with the status quo. Usually anyways.
9:43 Not to shit on mobile Players, but its 10000% a better experience on pc/ps5. I literally played on mobile since launch despite it having the flaws it did back then, and i enjoyed it, a lot. I got it on ps5 and it literally blew my mind. Like i sometimes wish i experienced it since day 1 on ps5 or pc. After getting it on ps5, I've never touched it on mobile, even when I'm not chanced to play on the console, I wait till I'm chanced, the experience is just so much better
4:40 I honestly don’t believe in revenue info at all Like generally speaking this revenue is company’s income and what company would disclose all information about their income. This income influence the taxes that they pay and all companies would try to pay them as less as possible Also public information can be as inaccurate as it’s possible (as income information is company’s property that can only be given/shown to state services) I am not an economist so I may be wrong but this is my thoughts about it
9:54 good point about PS5/PC being probably a much bigger piece of the pie for wuwa compared to other games as the game genre of hack & slash and its bit higher than the others hardware requirements mean that its dedicated players and spenders are probably not playing on mobile (atleast not only on mobile). A good example of how this is not applicable for the other games in the top is that one of the biggest whales (everyone c6r5) in genshin and whos also famous in its speedrunning community for having mutliple WRs dhcwsp is known tobe only an only mobile player. So if one of your game's biggest whales and also most skilled (therefore dedicated) is still only a mobile player that means probably a much better chunk of your other players is also mobile only.
Bro keeps saying that the number is inaccurate but every month makes video about it. Just enjoy the game, no need to make a big deal out of this chart.
The reason why Love and Deep Space is so high up is because it's only available on Mobile and if you want to play it on PC, you have to use Blue Stag which is basically an emulator for mobile devices
If there is something I learned over the last 25 years... Is if a company is doing exceptionally well with meh releases... Then we gamers just lost. Because now the executives know that they can do the bare minimum and people will still buy their BS. Ubisoft? Bethesda? Square enix? Remember when sports games were actually good? Crazy eh? The most recent example would be hoyoverse. Imagine making a script for a livestream and you're there... glazing yourself, telling everyone how much of a good job you did and how they should appreciate you for that. Jesus christ brother... Whatever happened to being humble? Is demanding compliments acceptable now? I thought those were reserved for people who actually deserve it.
Oh my god. My game has more revenue because the game is more predatory and more expensive to clear content that must mean the game is better, right ???
It’s more like, I won’t bother playing other games and will stick to my current game, which is at the top of the revenue charts. After all, the games with lower revenue will probably end their service soon anyway.
The tier list is to avoid them
Which game is it? that is more expensive to clear content
predatory yes, but genshin is piss easy and the same 4* from release can still clear just fine
@ it also means they can put on half ass update and chill,
because why try harder if you are already on the top
we've seen what kuro does with 10m (according to these fake charts), imagine what they do with 30m
who cares about 100m+ revenue when bare minimum goes back into the game
On top of that, see how they developed 2.0 with that "little" revenue? And now if double even triple of that? I have hope for future wuwa, hopefully they do deliver as they promise
It actually is shameful that games make 10x or 100x than it and do *k all
you do relies this site only shows Mobile sales right? We aren't seeing PC or console sales
dude most these games wish they make 10M month, that's still amazing, just crazy that Mihoyo makes like 30-50M is crazy especially ZZZ really only good game they have after Hi3 which lucky makes 3M a month
so much revenue but we're still picking mint
and playing squid games (current hsr event)
HAHAHHAHHAHAH
True 👍
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Stuck in the Mint Fields.
Comparing gacha revenue is like k-pop fans comparing album selling numbers to defend their idol's commercial success...
That's why I currently deemed Hoyo as a virtual Idol creation company instead of gaming company. Hoyo basically produces virtual idols with some stories and yes they made alot from that fan economy because fan economy is a bigger marketplace. Imagine how much would a gamer pay to support a game and how much would a fanboy pay to support their idols.
i guess but Wuwa wasn't doing well at first how bad release was, just hope now with 2.0 it does better. The thing is people keep saying Genshin is stagnating how the fuck they still top 5?
@@kyotheman69 you still trust that revenue chart? this chart is a joke which is based on Genshin's revenue of previous year. I could say that Genshin's revenue dropped half comparing to last year based on the ios rank descending in overall and the real situation could be worse. Still top5? Top 5 is an amazing result compared to past? Dude, imagine its playerbase back then during 2022-2023. The player base basically cut half and more. Wake up. The only region that is still doing well is JP even in CN it's dropped alot (in 2024 it's normall rank~10 in the first day and rank3-5 if there is fomo practise like the double new banner thing but will immediately drop to rank~20 the next day. in 2023, it's normally rank 1-3 at least and will stick for several days for top10. see the difference?).
@@kyotheman69????
WW is doing well from the start, we always don't know how much PC revenues they got and so much misinformation about WW's revenues in the past months.
And this revenue is still misinformation because Solon stated that They got the highest revenue in this January compared to other months and mind you past revenue (mobile only) stated that WW got $40M USD on launch month.
So yeah just skip Revenue posts altogether because all of them are just misinformation.
@@kyotheman69 "stagnating" in this context didn't specify to their revenue but rather their overall qol mechanics. It's "stagnating" because for 4 years hoyo didn't bother to update their qol. They have qol updates but it's locked behind a paywall which in return forces the players to pull for that specific character and get so much money out from it. At this point, only sunk cost fallacy is what keeps the game alive.
i dont see why wuwa is mentioned there at all, to be honest. its just not worth it. enjoying wuthering waves in THAT space is one of the biggest uphill battles in gacha gaming.
there are some psychos who actually dedicate full days like a 9-5 to hate wuwa and its community. its crazy. and the funniest part about it is that these people get upvoted like they have an army of bots waiting to vindicate any anti-wuwa take no matter how ignorant, bias or generally stupid. the best thing we can do as a community is to never engage with bad actors and bias communities like this because no matter how reasonable or cordial you are with these people, no matter how much your take is based in fact and truth, youll still get shit on and called "toxic" for having the audacity to voice your opinion thats positive on wuwa. its NOT worth it.
i think they just cant accept the fact that a game theyve been playing for the past 4/5 years got surpassed so easily so they are just trying their best to make wuwa look ugly, i dont get it tbh, there is no need to be a war, i play both games, but i just simply think wuwa did better job since devs are ACTUALLY listening to the players and hoyo did not, and i think wuwa doesnt derserve the hate so i joined the war, i dont hate the game, i just dont like the community, SPECIALLY when i saw what they did to macro
@qiannaxdd wtf are you even talking about all wuwa cc start from hating on genshin. Can't build an actual community without shitting on the game but then cry when the gen community fights back. Too funny
these people shill to hard for their set game, when these games shouldn't be your "main game" single player games or anything you can play for longer period of time should be. Gacha games should be treated as side games, just play when you do have time, don't stress over dailys most these games barely give anything.
@@JetLee-ec3tj🤨come again?
@@vutrantrunghieu2016 All top wuwa exclusive CCs are like this channel, their content is mainly to trash hyv and glaze wuwa so hard that they suddenly forgot that ' having the highest SINGLE-DAY revenue' does not mean 'having the highest MONTHLY revenue' they just conveniently forgot the other 29-ish days in which wuwa may or may not perform as good as the first day. And ppl acting like a victim in the comment section when they r the ones who start this topic cuz they can't just sit still seeing their game lost
On the other hand, hyv exclusive CCs almost never talk about wuwa or revenue pvp they just don't care
Btw I'm playing both games and also support wuwa's other kind of CCs which r rare and unfortunately not as popular since wuwa fans seem to love to hate hyv more than they love their own game
fellas let's be real here
if Wuthering Waves consistently outearns other gachas and rank top 5 on all these charts
Saint won't be keep making videos emphasizing the revenue isn't accurate
a lot of the people commenting here will also change their attitude and keep praising Wuwa instead
They will be celebrating it and brag about how Wuwa beaten Genshin
Endfield is ruined
Ironically yes,
but for me myself i don't want to brag it just to mock GI and instead giving Kuro praise they deserve for their hard work.
@@Kurokamishigo69 just enjoy the game you love bruh. I love both wuwa and genshin
ultimately facts don't care about your feelings
a lot of the arguments here are made based on hate, bias to drive an agenda against genshin
"natlan sucks and players are quitting, natlan characters are not popular and no one is pulling, genshin is dying, genshin is boring blah blah blah"
none of these statements are backed by any factual evidence and when you look up the engagement stats on social media about genshin, or compare different revenue charts for diversity of stats, or just look up video and stream viewcounts etc. you'd realize Genshin is doing just fine and its the only the loud minorities like the genshin haters and "boycotters" keep telling you the game is flopping hard rn
Gacha Revenue = Most exploited communities.
Congratz, HoYo
won't be surprising if Hoyo themselves literally laundered their money by paying their own community to keep spending in the game just for statistics, this is the same company that uses viewbotting on Twitch, and announcing their proud take on using AI for voice acting.
stupid monetize~ generous. kid mindset
more like most skill issue community. basically the higher the revenue, the less likely the game will have good endgame
@@lactosemanWuwa has literally no endgame......it's shallow compared to what pgr offers. Hell snowbreak and nikke have more.
@@abhiss6705 Nikke has no real gameplay bro
"The numbers Mason, what do they mean?" People think Sensor Tower provides financial statements lol.
Sensor tower provides the information it intended to. The purpose of the tower isn't to show revenue, the numbers can be anything really, so long as it reflects the trends. If there's an increase of 60%, then the 28m doesn't matter, what matters is that there's an increase. Market researchers will then figure out why. If Genshin Impact took back first place, it doesn't matter how much money they say it gained, what matters is that now they are first, so what did they do differently?
Most of these numbers are based on a model. That model functions in a vacuum. There is way too much it does not take into consideration.
Sensor tower is like a pointer, it shows you where to look depending on what you are searching for.
When your game is making hundreds of millions of dollars per patch but their CEO is out there crying crocodile tears in order to gaslight you into believing that it’s impossible to code a skip button and artifact loadouts…and you believe him 😂😂😂
sensor tower is actually proving that hoyoverse's developers are incompetent.
@@su3t yeah without it i dont know The Fk Hoyo has became since hi3
but sadly it is a fact that coding skip button is lost ancient technology and it cost hundreds if not billion of dollars. Implementing it in Genshin is in the realm of impossibility.
If this turns out a correct report of revenue, it would be another bitch slap to all GI players because look how much their favorite game earned for the month of January and yet most of their problems with the game is still not being resolved. It's literally like corruption.
Solon's report is also reported to the company board and the investors a.k.a Tencent that 2.0 has pulled in a record high in sales, that cannot be a lie since if they did I'm quite sure there are legal ramifications for that in CN and knowing Tencent they would bury Solon deep in the ground if that was the case lmao.
What I'm assuming is that PS5 and PC carried the revenue so hard, also people are forgetting that these gacha games already have a direct recharge at their website that could offer better value for customers that won't reflect in this guesstimate chart and this is only iOS I believe so android sales records are not counted, I also saw someone tweeted on X that the CEO of PaperGames the devs of Infinity Nikki that PC and consoles accounts over 50% of domestic sales and 80% of their overseas market, so who's to say that the same don't apply to WuWa
But all in all, this propaganda revenue chart is pretty much useless anyways since as I like to say a $2000 shit would always sell/earn more than $1000 gold but it doesn't make shit better than gold, it just means there are just many dumbahh that buy overpriced shit
i know its illegal here to lie on these(France) and i doubt its very different in other countries.
Otherwise, you get stuff like the crap with Elizabeth Holmes(look it up if you dont know).
Anyway, any people taking this seriously EVEN if their favorite game is on top, is a complete moron.
It literraly mean this person is easy to influence. Literraly : a complete idiot.
The methodology is basically : "i feel like these are the correct numbers"
Numbers don't care about feelings : it's true datas or its not. I fucking hate these people.
Extactly the main point. Only if your an investor or an employee in the company should you really care about revenue as then your financial incentived todo so. As for a player the only thing that maybe important for you about revenue charts/player numbers is just to make sure your favourite game isnt EOSing anytime soon so you get to plan to jump ship early (which for 99% of the popular gachas they are making enough profits for this tobe not the case).
That true in cn as well for someone who is from there, if you did this in china and lied, it be very bad, anyways these aren't the first internal devs message by Solon which they are called because others were released before like in 1.4 and 1.1, so everything he saying there is true, also it accounting total revenue across all platforms so like PC,PS5, mobile that why he said highest single day revenue for wuwa, anyways it not Solon first time doing a internal message on wuthering waves
U can’t go look at wuwa’s previous highest monthly revenue and say wuwa must’ve received more than this in a single day according to the prez cuz he reported that wuwa has the highest SINGLE DAY revenue since launched not MONTHLY revenue. We have no info about the situation of the other 29-ish days which need to be included in the calculation of monthly revenue and we don’t know just how much this highest single day revenue is
I sometimes keep up with the r/gachagaming page on Reddit & I look at the number of downvotes & you can tell they have an agenda going like what @Saintontas has mentioned in this video.
always have been since genshin released and the mods have a heavy preference on that game
Gacha Revenue still breathing in 2025 is Krazy 💀
its only showing mobile sales, id love to know actual sales each month with all platforms
Well, Saintontas one of the people keeping it alive...
It's crazy how much money hoyo getting from genshin and still providing such poor contents, and ppl out there still paying up, I guess they are very used to low quality content since they never had a good one, once i played wuthering waves, I can't go back to genshin anymore, the world is so big but running cost stamina? Can't even fly only if pay for the character? That's just wild
crazy because wuwa literally feels like a low-quality open world game with zero optimizations on mobile and redesigned assets from genshin. But ofcourse, wuwashills continue to circlejerk on kektone and santontas vids to make themselves feel better, pathetic. Nobody cares about your game outside your little echochamber
@@scarfazexoxobro still stuck at 1.0
@@scarfazexoxo this is how dumb hoyoshills are....my game is more predatory and your proud to eat slop/shit, I'm very happy for hoyo brainwashing this noobs.... but don't worry FTC already stepped in and this will be your last delulu revenue sponsored by r/gachahoyoshills
@scarfazexoxo
Either you haven't experienced the next patch and quit 1.0 or you don't have anything to do in Genshin so you perpetuate lies here
U are outdated of your topic just like your game nothing improvements @@scarfazexoxo
praising about the game that made you lose so much money is crazy bruh 💀💀
90% of my in game or discord friends play on pc or console
Most revenue come from Asia Asia is not pc master race civilization most Asian play mobile
@@Tervezo001 I love it when people reduce the word Asia to 3 countries
A
Afghanistan
Armenia
Azerbaijan
B
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Bhutan
Brunei
C
Cambodia
China
Cyprus
G
Georgia
I
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Israel
J
Japan
Jordan
K
Kazakhstan
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
L
Laos
Lebanon
M
Malaysia
Maldives
Mongolia
Myanmar
N
Nepal
North Korea
O
Oman
P
Pakistan
Palestine
Philippines
Q
Qatar
R
Russia
S
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
South Korea
Sri Lanka
Syria
T
Taiwan
Tajikistan
Thailand
Timor-Leste
Turkey
Turkmenistan
U
United Arab Emirates (UAE)
Uzbekistan
V
Vietnam
Y
Yemen
Me just have fun with Wuwa 2.0
*Some random sites just drop revenue*
Hoyoshills : See!!! Wuwa didn’t make 99m$ this month!!! 😂😂😂 EOS soon!!! Genshin completely crush Wuwa!!
Me : oh that revenue again? I am sorry but what revenue? Da Wei May cry revenue? I am just enjoying Rinascita too much oh? and thise gacha revenue? only for reference ok?
Hoyoshills : but Wuwa is so boring , everything is so ****.
Me : Ah…Please hate Wuwa more that you guys are actually give Kuro a free ads!🤣🤣🤣
having hypothetical conversations with yourself in the comment is insane
@@Sao0011 wuwashills and their weird headcannons back at it again💩 literally no one talks like this in the community bozo, the majority of the genshin playerbase doesn't even know what wuwa is, only a small minority do.
@@Sao0011 literally no one talks about wuwa in the genshin community bozo, majority of them don't even know what wuwa is🤡
Genshin making 100 mill and still beeing the most shitass game ever is so funny
why do this guy makes a video talking about revenue not being important every month?
he made like 4 videos already we get it
revenue isn't important then stop talking about in your videos then lol
just your typical wuwashill coping with the fact that their games aren't beating genshin. Less revenue, less playercount, less viewcounts, much less social media fanart, lore discussion, theorycrafting talks, and the wuwa cc spend half of their time on stream comparing the game to genshin and keep reminding their audience wuwa is better and all the revenue charts are scam. when you point out these to compare they get mad at you and deny the reality and tell you "its about quality, quality decides which one is winning!"
@@hifumienjoyer69 you have a point but overall quality i do believe Wuwa is superior though and I prefer Wuwa over Genshin. However I find in the EN community many wuwa fans sound bitter when Genshin is brought up.
@@hifumienjoyer69Lol. It only shows how hoyoshills got scammed by your lord Da Wei to spend money for their pockets not to improve the game. 😂 GI 5.4 and HSR 3.0 look shit. 😂
@@Altair_Ibn_La_Ahad look like shit according to who. if a game has less revenue, much less active players who are willing to draw the characters talk about the lore and story, less cc who focus on their own games, it really implies which game is more popular and successful. If you want to make a good argument about how revenue doesn't reflect success and popularity I welcome you.
to make fun of the hoyotards fuming over wuwa not EoSing yet. And it's even funnier that these shills in gacha wars were so proud of how hoyo milked them they downvote people who like wuwa because they couldnt stand it when someone prefers a MUCH QUALITY game than the game that milked them lmao
Remember folks
high revenue ≠ good game
What makes revenue chart stupid is that it's not really accurate and i doubt these companies will just reveal their profit easily for privacy purposes. There's a reason why Solon Lee didn't specify the amount of money they received on their twitter post. No need to make fuss over this stupid chart. Let the qol updates and awards kuro received do the talking.
So much crying hoyoshills here lol
These guys would say CoD was the best game ever because it was top selling smh.
Roblox, CoC and Last war is definitely the best game ever lul
and McDonalds is the best food ever because it makes the most money 😂😂😂
I'm so happy WuWa made almost 30m. Good start of 2.0+ ver 🥳
😂😂😂 if Genshin had 29 million .. this turd would make 10 videos saying oh my god hoyo is dying Genshin is dying .. wuwa has great number with respect I love wuwa .. but suddenly oh we won’t criticise any game .. we are saint we never bully anybody . Don’t don’t want any wars ..
we will have wars when Genshin has a bad result which it will someday .
The fact that Wuwa is doing that well on mobile even though the game is not compatible with many phones because of how much space it needs causing it to constantly crash on some phones is amazing. Since that made majority of the players be on pc or wait for it to be available on ps5.
saint lets be real for a sec if wuwa number 1 are you gonna say the same thing ?
He'll probably say "that's nice" and move on. Are we actually going to believe the logic of a gacha game being the best in its category by its revenue numbers when Genshin is one of the top right now, a game that a lot of us used to play and know it's not in its best state right now?
He and other kuroshills would definitely say that the revenue chart is 120% real when wuwa is no.1 🤣
@@Tunnelsnakes full cap. you know the bias is there and if wuwa takes the top 3 spot on any gacha game revenue report this guy will post a vid praise it every month and the comments here will say the devs deserve, kuro games W, Genshin is beaten and dying etc.
@@tryhardsensei I mean, you can always refer him to this video in the future if he ever does. And if that's the case, he can either accept accountability or he doesn't. Going by a lot of his videos, he doesn't seem to be the kind of guy that is habitually hypocritical or would go back on his word unlike another person in the space as of recent. Otherwise, you're just accusing him of a wrongdoing for something that has never happened as of yet.
@@Tunnelsnakes Isn't saintontas the kind of guy who hates false information but he did it himself and no one called him out?
Remember what he's saying about gacha system in Endfield?
Stop defending his dramatuber slop.
Hoyoverse games don't look like a game more like housechores that is lack of fun give me more of your money for powercreep and medicore storytelling
Tbh, I never never really trust that gacha revenue thing. Yeah Genshin won. But guess what? It will just go to Da Wei's pocket and their games will stay shit. 😂 A predatory company successfully scammed players. 😂👎🏻
What I don't like is that people are still trying to make an argument around these numbers, like "10 million is still high bro". We shouldn't even entertain the idea that the game earned 10 mil, because it's bullshit. If you checked any official data about game's revenue, that was featured on tower, you would know that their numbers aren't even close to being accurate. A good example would be ToF, which was doing pretty damn badly according to tower, but then, magically, earned hundreds of millions dollars in the official investor report. Don't take this shit seriously, and don't act like these numbers are close to reality, because by doing so, you will only solidify it in the eyes of morons.
i agree but ToF really doesn't do well bro :v
@@theskywalker8416 It was a success since the game more than quintupled its initial investment.
I bet sony and bioware wish they had made ToF instead of concord and dragon age the veilguard.
@@theskywalker8416on the global side - yes, but we have an undeniable proof that it earned hundreds of millions dollars, that being report to investors from perfect world. Just because it's popular to shit on it doesn't suddenly make its revenue nonexistent.
Genshin Impact doing absolutely amazing, but the fans are absolutely COOKED. They have shown that they can made a predatory gacha timing by releasing 2 new characters that is BIS to each other at the same time, and locking the reward AFTER their banner, and they still made that much money? 💀💀💀
The message is clear. They can do it and will get away with it. Good luck Genshin fans.
seriously why Sant said this game is stagnating? That's stagnate? it still makes crazy money each month even with shit patches
@@kyotheman69 If it made that amount of money with shit patches, it speaks more about the fans than the game itself.
me who enjoying genshin story never have a problem playing genshin since I play the game I love and doesn't care about others thing
@@wekang1650 That's good, just focus on playing the game and ignore those revenue post from seeking attention player.
@@RoyalRayko15 but it's sad sometimes when other people call me stupid for still playing genshin lmao 🤣.
Hilarious to see these classroom of hoyo redditors getting mad en masse. At “great to see Wuwa succeeding” comments 😂
Genshin is dead 😥
Wuwa not #1 therefore revenue is false fake and useless
Genshin having 99M is Cancer 💀
Sunk cost fallacy ahhhh revenue
this sounds like a bitter comment to me. many ppl here say revenue isnt important yet they still talk about it and this guy make a video emphasizing revenue chart is fake every month. if wuwa makes 100m a month i bet a lot of the ppl here and wuwa cc will be cheering instead.
@ I would love to see Wuwa making that amount they deserve it
@@criticalthinker6317 wuwa players from day 1 have not cared about revenue, Genshin bots always bring it up when someone brings up the fact that genshin is such a shitty game now with devs that couldnt care less about its players
@@ryank6160 if they don't then why wuwa cc talk about revenue chart every month and say its inaccurate? if you go through this guy's videos you'd see in every gacha revenue vid he keeps talking about its fake we get it sure. and the fans in the comments keep saying genshin sucks, genshin earns more mean nothing etc. its getting salty and makes it look like many wuwa fans DO seem to get bothered by the fact that genshin is earning much. otherwise they won't bother to care about any games and focus on the positives of wuwa instead.
@@ryank6160 If the game truly is shitty then it will be dying people will quit the game for other games but its not. Its still one of the most played gacha game with most active fanbase who are willing to create art, talk about story and combat, contribute financially etc. I used to be one of the those anti Hoyo haters but I guess its time to let go. If we keep bringing this up it just makes this community look like we keep comparing ourselves to hoyoshills in that regard.
Hoyoshills can't take criticism even their comments keep defending their slop company
The only supported base hoyoshill can stand upon ( that too in the wrong way ), once you remove Gacha revenue out of the equation and talk hoyoshills are practically baseless in the conversation
Who even plays wuwa on mobile, most players are on pc/console anyway
Unironically it runs pretty well on my phone
Then don't make it on mobile and get out from the revenue mobile
All the Hoyo shills absolutely coping because the game made almost 30 mill on mobile alone. Lmao 😂
Doesn't even include PC and their new bread maker the gachastation 5.
Even on PS5 Wuwa is below Genshin and ZZZ 🤣🤣🤣
@@esquir-x3eThe PS5 is the WuWa station now. 🙌
Plagiarismverse trailer impact
Why does all wuwa cc use genshin bad to build their channel. You dont see gen cc shit on wuwa just go and compare the why wuwa is bad to why genshin is bad. You guys start this community war and then move the goal post consistently. Ths guys whole personilty is about how deep he can go on kuro 🍆
They need to pay their rents and the only way to get views is to make videos on genshin, the biggest example is Di*ktone
I don't even call them CC, they are only good at picking drama and making comparisons, real CCs are those who actually make fun gameplay videos, guide or tutorials, like Rate up radio or Steparu
lol it's called criticizing the game. Nothing wrong with comparing 2 games in direct competition either you are just soft asf.
Without genshin blueprint neither wuwa can be made nor wuwa cc can build their channel 😂. Such is their pathetic display rather than speaking about own game wuwa ccs farm genshin hatred for views.
Reality is completely opposite
FOR NATLAN !!!!!!!!!
@@elijah7616 so I saw a video comparison of Wuwa and Natlan. Damnmnnn glad i'm playing wuwa instead of that shitty ahh power of friendship thing they got. It's also going the harem route, more fun having harem i guess. Wuwa sets standards lmao
r/gachagaming and gacha revenue are two places in the internet that every sane person should avoid imo
Revenue is the worst metric, its just which developer is the worst lmao
Will you be saying this if wuwa is always top 1 on all revenue reports though?
@@tryhardsensei they won't lol That's why you need to realize this people here are hypocrites
@@tryhardsensei whoever takes these numbers seriously must Take a shower, no matter the side
@@tryhardsensei if wuwa's devs were as bad as Genshin's devs? 100% I wouldn't even play games that don't listen to their player base lmfao
Gacha revenue is so useless that I made a 9999th vid about it
Eat spend and defend your predatory plagiarism slop for your multi billion company-motto for hoyoshills
Listen if I were a greedy ceo living in the hellscape of urbanized china and someone told me there was a near infinite exploitable resource; I too would farm the mentally ill. They'll believe anything including this chart. The game makes so much money they'll accept 3 poses fade to black yapfests with double release banners and ceo's fake crying over nonissues. Pennies to dollars easy.
Didn't they have to verify a claim that Kuro made a tweet about their highest revenue to date? But yet this is lower than that by more than 1/2? Patch was Jan 2nd. This is SeaseePea levels of propaganda.
Boy quiet you wouldn’t even lean at the opportunity let alone jump. You would be too busy scrolling the internet
@@jameskangethe8952 Get back in the fields regard. The thresher is coming for you.
Huh? Genshin makes more money=good game??? Wuwa is one of the most F2P games in gacha gaming compared to Genshin which is the most greedy and Fomo in gacha gaming // sry but wuwa is game and players first then gacha unlike Jenshin is money and gacha first before game and then players and labdog🤣🤣🤣
the fact that they talk about and analyze the revenue like they understand financial, yet, none of them are millionares
Its funny how the HoyoShills come to this video just to spread hate. They can’t ignore a Video from a creator that plays WuWa lmao
so petty, but i guess nobody cares about the Redit post anymore, so they have to vent their frustration somewhere else
Of course they would love the revenue rankings because that's where they can finally visualize where their money went...
Who imagined that forcing (by FOMO) people to pull a character that is overhyped and its BiS because they wouldnt give you free wishes would make them an insane amount of money.
Typical hoyoshills crying in the comment
Hoyo is like iphone for gacha game
-Pricey/Predatory
-Crappy Content
At least you get a good product with apple phones although overpriced. But they do deliver polished features. Hoyo is truly one of a kind.
@dreep_0 ahh yes, you got the point, hoyo is like iphone but DOWNGRADE
Isn't it odd that they're the ones the 120 fps is locked with?
The sh!t apple doesn't fall from the sh!t tree. You smell that Randy? Sh!t hawks and they're eating their own sh!t randy.
Everyone stopped covering gacha revenue charts. EXCEPT the guy that kept crying about it being fake.
You looked at a message of the developer that says that they have had a SINGLE day of best revenue and you are comparing it to an entire month of revenue.
Idk why this chart triggers you people so much, it's just an information on every gacha game, it's made the same way for every game, but y'all treat it as it is made solely with the intent of clowning on Wuwa, these charts were made way, way before this game was released and nobody made a big deal out of it, but y'all are so sensitive that you have to cry about it every single time.
it shows a lot of wuwa cc are insecure and fuel their audience with anti genshin hatred
its obvious here seeing the comments and many ppl keep deny it
if you ever follow other gacha game cc who play games like azur lane, blue archive, reverse 1999 or even the solo leveling game they are all focusing on their own games and analyzing the sales and banner quality
only wuwa cc keep making videos every month reminding their audience the chart is a scam for some reason
Revenue are fake, who would have a right mind showing own bank account?
Nothing you said changes this ranking, and it's also nothing new for anyone who has been playing Gatcha for a long time.
Everything you said is valid for any game that has multiple platforms. Which means that even Genshin, instead of 99, could have 140/150, for example. This is all valid for any game.
But this ranking wouldn't change much, how could ZZZ and Wuwa, for example, reach at least 99m coming from just almost 30m? The ranking wouldn't change much.
Now, if Wuwa were in the TOP1 on this list, I'm sure the conversation in this video would be different.
Im sure wuwa players will talk crazy things about others games. But since Kuro Games can't do that, players now say "oh who cares about revenue, nobody cares, blah blah blah".
The profits of companies always matter, because it is from these profits that the games can improve or worsen. Don't forget that Kura sold part of its company exactly because of this.
And don't forget that, even when playing on other platforms, there are people who pay for their purchases through GooglePlay (I play on PC and I do this), which means that part of the sales even on other platforms already show up in this table.
No surprised again and look at those typical hoyoshills only defense is revenues and misinformation
This Gacha revenue review is always full of lies.
Estimation as always
at least my game is have enough and improve so much. comparing to the game that always have a huge revenue but there is no improvement that have impact for their players including old/veteran player
*not just one game, but two games in the same company that i want to recall in my statement. if you know what i mean 🤣
As a dolphin I’m doing my part on pc with 5 s6r1s 😅.
Skipping Roccia and Phoebe but when Brant comes out I will tell myself I’ll only go s0r1 but then end up spending when I’ll roleplay as Spider-Man with anchors. 😂
yeah pc topup is the way to go
5 s6 is no longer dolphin territory, but good on ya nonetheless
@ I’ve honestly been rly lucky and only lost a few 50/50s and you can buy 2 copies in store.
It’s still not that cheap but NOWHERE near what it takes to c6 in hoyo games. The rates are better here and pity is lower.
GIMME THOSE MONEYSSS 😢😢
If GFL1 and ToF continues to pump updates even to this day then whatever that shitty fantasy site spouts is complete bullshit.
Also Gateo lmaoooooo
"Genshin is a dead game"
The dead game is question🤣
Keep crying in comment section fellas, keep making excuses
Genshin living rent free in their heads😭
@@cruzac1287 nah. I dont keep bad games in my mind especially with the terrible community it has.
Let them make their own happiness 🤣
FOR NATLAN !!!!
it's not dead for sure, but it's laughable to see the quality difference for having high revenue. lmao dont cry, da wei will do it for you. Then go continue eating up unvoiced contents, and sloppy QoLs no one ever asked for.
r/gachagaming folks spamming that revenue chart all over gacha facebook groups is hilarious to watch. People are not buying into it anymore lmfao
GI and HSR fans deserve whatever the harsh treatment they got from Hoyo. Because no matter what they gonna buy into sunk cost fallacy. At this point I don't think people actually enjoy the game, but rather which game is more popular.
Most of them are just deceiving themselves to liking the game, when most of the thing you do there is a chore, including the bloated main stories... LOL...
@@rxceeddid it never occur to you that maybe the reason these games do so well is because they're actually good games? but nah, mindlessly consuming santontas and kektone slop made an already dumb audience dumber.
Can't blame us for not liking a low quality game like wuwa that's essentially just a glorified hack-and-slash with cringy voice acting and unnatural-looking character movements. Not to mention how the game literally took a handful of genshin's game assets and redesigned it as their own.
@@scarfazexoxoah yes. Genshin inventing everything. Even anime stole genshin assets
Cringy voice actor? Bro still stuck at 1.0
nothings gonna change. if you needed more proof that the hoyo community might actually be the most braindead in the space, you had multiple people DEFENDING hoyoverses scam and even celebrating that it worked. crazy work.
@@scarfazexoxo wow, did it also never occured to you how mindless your comment was???
If this is a slop content??? Then what are you doing here???
Unnatural looking??? Oh, yes... Flying motorcycles are natural looking, I guess...
Revenue does not a game make great
Gacha Revenue isn't very credible for outside of mobile.
The sample population, for the revenue, came entirely from mobile data. Meaning the trends showcased is not representative of the whole population.
You could make an argument for mobile trends. But in this case, the sample is too biased to make bold claims outside of mobile.
Utilizing mobile trends would only make sense if Mobile data and PC data were even. But it's blatantly obvious that you would get more useful data from a PC sample because it's representative for the majority of WuWa players.
Mobile data is too insufficient to account for PC data. Reasonably speaking, there would be a significant difference between PC trends and Mobile trends.
"It doesn't matter", "it is not correct" ,"there is no point talking about it"
Same dude: Make video about the same shit every single month 😂👌
Just a reminder to everyone:
ToF averaged 600k to 1mil per month in the gachagaming charts.
Their recent revenue report for the entire company stated they earned an equivalent of over 680mil in that year, thats already considering the cut for tencent and playstation. Its not even 5% of what they made.
Snowbreak also had something similar, while I don’t have the specifics, the numbers were lower in the gachagaming charts than it should be when calculating from their public revenue report from the company themselves.
The charts are just straight up estimates and simply inaccurate. It should not be taken seriously.
I'm curious, can you give me any source please? I don't even play those games but i like to just check stuff like that. Thanks
@@thesseus1332 Snowbreak is public on their reddit or some YT videos .. theyve had event showing revenue ... it was not even close to the fake sensor tower BS.
i saw some vids regarding their upcoming filler patch that will only give them 9k+ primogems for the whole patch (50 wishes for a whole month is crazy even with that big revenue) lmao
And you still cover it every month 😂 😂
because he's stupid simple as that 😂. None of this cc is smart even though he keep saying this gacha revenue is fake unreliable and bla bla bla he still make a video about it 😂
Farming
he is a crybaby 😂
Gacha reddit is just a circlejerk echochamber, they blatantly hate kuro, when ltb they are among the better gacha companies. Do they feel it's their job to shit on kuro?
Sensor Tower is going to go EOS at this rate.
me when my fav sport team loses to the rival team by more than 3x the score: "who cares that game is completely irrelevant" xDD.
love and deepspace the GOAT.
Can someone explain why the WuWa community thinks Sensor is fake? I havent heard this from any other game community
its based from estimates. they use monthly downloads plus playerbase and ratings. These companies dont release their earnings to the public, closest one is solon from kuro games where he said they've surpassed their highest single day revenue back in 2.0 Hoyoverse combined are earning more than 200 million per month at minimum. But the money seems to not go into making their games better
@KINGS0FA1
But is it so bad that it's unreliable? These rankings and revenue seems legit when seeing the playerbase and popularity. Even if the real data was released, the rankings wouldn't be too far off?
@@KINGS0FA1
The Wuwa community is criticising the website as if the real data was released, it would show that WuWa made a 1000m or smth.
No, the website is complete fabrication. The numbers are made up. Its not a reliable source. @ScrumptiousGluteusMaximus
They are in their denial phase it's ok every game community goes through that phase 😌
I rather they just stop doing this completely. There will be idiots out there that will take this revenue list as the bible and start spouting dumb takes all over the place.
I really don't understand how gachas like WuWa even make money. I love the game, but the lack of an end game baffles me, and with how long banners are, there seems no reason to even spend.
lets take a second and say that the numbers in the list are true 10000%
how the fuck does that benefit you as a customer / player ?
yeah genshin did 100 milion that hardly even a penny will go into the game since the game is stale as it gets for the last 5 years with every "qol" update either not being qol or straight up making things worse
It is so damn stupid to compare multi-platform game revenue with single platform games. Each game will have varying market share of different markets. It's not even a percentage you're comparing, it's a percentage of a percentage.
Our (insert game here) isn’t dying! Look how much money we gave them!
I dont mind about revenue,
Revenue is just how you spend a money
Releasing a new character but the game mechanics still Old
infinity nikki still going strong!
"If my GAME performs better on chart then it's accurate, otherwise it's WRONG" 10/10 echo chamber as always.
Reddit downvotes really are such a menace.😂
0 Views in 11 seconds bro fell off
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@@MukuroYTBot? Kurobot?
@@MukuroYT no u
Cringe 🤮
@@Uminagi_XIII buddy you have a incest game as a pfp you can't be talking. I was saying bot as in the comment is so generic
All right Wuwa EoS boys. Sadge. I'm just gonna enjoy my S6 R5 limited units until they EoS 10 years later.
One reason Hoyo games doing very well is they spent a lot on marketing, basically putting ads everywhere, hiring famous ppl to promote, etc ..
Honestly I get atleast 3 ads of them everyday and I even blocked some because of how repetitive they were and I still get them.
then the ads are working? Shouldn't Kuro do the same then?
That explains how shitty their game development 😂
@@sunright20475 you know marketing is a major right?
And yes, Kuro is picking up, but not as aggressive as Hoyo
@@sonson7778 gender studies is a major
Stop having war/pvp
Yah kinda hard for them when CCs make content that starts them
7:42 bro got downvoted to -9 for the most nonaggressive comment of him liking that a game who enjoys is doing well and is happy about it. No comparison except to its previous earning in the 1st month (with very inaccurate charts too mind you). This is just sad
I love how in all these revenues discussions, no one ever brings up that revenue ≠ profits.
A game/ movie with huge production and marketing costs might not make as much as a much cheaper production. It’s the reason why big movie Blockbusters can earn some of the highest amounts of money for a movie that year and yet still lose money for the company.
Hoyo might have the highest revenue, but unless we know their production/ marketing/ straight up wastage, we might never know if they’re truly earning more than Kuro games or any of the other games here.
They are definitely earning more than any game here. They spend an average of 15-20mil per month and got 100mil this month. Profit of 85mil.
I think if you believe in something well enough you shouldn't be worried about other people not believing it. If I believe wuwa is the best gacha game then I shouldn't wait for a random revenue chart to back up my belief... I don't really care how much these companies earn because I'm not a shareholder by any means, I'm simply a consumer... and if the product is bad, I'll stop consuming it, as simple as that...
All I know is that I'll keep playing wuwa and supporting it till it goes eos because I've developed attachment to the game; but in return I'm glad that the devs aren't making my experience miserable... a random guesstimate chart shouldn't be getting that much attention in the first place; whether you're someone who hates wuwa or not, you shouldn't really need to have your favourite game on top of these charts as a proof of your enjoyment.
Therefore I don't need wuwa to be on top in order to enjoy it. I enjoyed it all the way since 1.0 and I'll keep doing so... we shouldn't be giving attention to these charts, it's such a braindead argument to begin with...
6:57 tbf, thats most of reddit and not just isolated to gacha. You can't have opposing views on that site at all or views that dont go with the status quo. Usually anyways.
9:43 Not to shit on mobile Players, but its 10000% a better experience on pc/ps5. I literally played on mobile since launch despite it having the flaws it did back then, and i enjoyed it, a lot. I got it on ps5 and it literally blew my mind. Like i sometimes wish i experienced it since day 1 on ps5 or pc. After getting it on ps5, I've never touched it on mobile, even when I'm not chanced to play on the console, I wait till I'm chanced, the experience is just so much better
4:40 I honestly don’t believe in revenue info at all
Like generally speaking this revenue is company’s income and what company would disclose all information about their income. This income influence the taxes that they pay and all companies would try to pay them as less as possible
Also public information can be as inaccurate as it’s possible (as income information is company’s property that can only be given/shown to state services)
I am not an economist so I may be wrong but this is my thoughts about it
i'm surprised you didn't put "Ruined" in the title
9:54 good point about PS5/PC being probably a much bigger piece of the pie for wuwa compared to other games as the game genre of hack & slash and its bit higher than the others hardware requirements mean that its dedicated players and spenders are probably not playing on mobile (atleast not only on mobile).
A good example of how this is not applicable for the other games in the top is that one of the biggest whales (everyone c6r5) in genshin and whos also famous in its speedrunning community for having mutliple WRs dhcwsp is known tobe only an only mobile player.
So if one of your game's biggest whales and also most skilled (therefore dedicated) is still only a mobile player that means probably a much better chunk of your other players is also mobile only.
Bro keeps saying that the number is inaccurate but every month makes video about it.
Just enjoy the game, no need to make a big deal out of this chart.
This is nothing but cope from WuWa community. Lol
Made 99 mil but still gave rewards after the double new limited banner expired
The reason why Love and Deep Space is so high up is because it's only available on Mobile and if you want to play it on PC, you have to use Blue Stag which is basically an emulator for mobile devices
The only relevant info i care about when it comes to monthy gacha revenue is the increase/decrease percentage. Im just glad FGO is still going good
If there is something I learned over the last 25 years...
Is if a company is doing exceptionally well with meh releases...
Then we gamers just lost.
Because now the executives know that they can do the bare minimum and people will still buy their BS.
Ubisoft? Bethesda? Square enix? Remember when sports games were actually good? Crazy eh?
The most recent example would be hoyoverse.
Imagine making a script for a livestream and you're there... glazing yourself, telling everyone how much of a good job you did and how they should appreciate you for that.
Jesus christ brother... Whatever happened to being humble? Is demanding compliments acceptable now? I thought those were reserved for people who actually deserve it.