Why The US Toll System Is So Complicated - Cheddar Explains
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2021
- If you’re one of the 72% of Americans taking a road trip this year, don’t forget your toll passes---plural. There are, after all, over 130 toll systems across 34 states, so you better be prepared.
Technically, by now, you should be able to have just one transponder. Congress passed a law in 2012 requiring what’s called “interoperability” between all the nation’s toll systems - a concept that means one pass would work for every toll.
That law was supposed to take effect in 2016. Yet here you are in 2021, emerging from the pandemic and packing three or four transponders for your cross-country trip. What gives?
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I love how the first picture we see of the early toll road is just some dude pointing a gun at travelers.
We should get married
@Azeem Siddiqui I know you are but what am i
@@donkeyhobo34 Bruh
@@AbrahamG.99 I know you are but what am I
@@donkeyhobo34 ??? lmao
Me driving on a toll road full of potholes: what am I paying for ?
The toll road system's CEO's salary.
Money for the gooberment
Gifts for the politicans' mistresses.
Sounds like the Chicago turnpike. The turnpikes in Oklahoma seem so much better.
I pay $12 to go 80 miles ($24 if I don't have an ezpass) and I can't even drive as fast as I want. What's the point?
The three great lies: 1) "I love you". 2) "The check is in the mail". 3) "The tolls will be removed when the bond are paid off".
Lol. Even if the bond is paid off it will have needed so much maintenance it basically doubles the cost.
Which 20th century country still gets checks by mail?
@@HelgaCavoli lots of rebates are still sent by mail
Lol
@@HelgaCavoli - I have an insurance policy where the company does not offer online payment, I still have to mail a check.
As someone who’s lived in the Great Lakes and Mid-Atlantic, I’m VERY glad that all the states there share one tolling system. It makes it SO much easier
Ikr
I didn’t even know they weren’t compatible until I was in Colorado very recently
I'd be so screwed if Delaware wasnt on Ezpass, cause I have to leave the state to do anything fun
As someone from Michigan I hate that I have to pass so many toll roads on my way out of my state
I’ve got a Causeway toll tag, An EZ-Pass, and a sunpass. I can’t even see out my windshield anymore 😭😭
That's very dangerous!
@@JustAPolishAmerican go figure, you're polish
And if you're in Texas your state inspection sticker NEEDS to be on the drivers side windshield on the lower left. It's the worst place they could require you to put it and absolutely obstructs your view.
When these systems are made compatible, you will be charged to all three.
@@COASTER1921 In NY the inspection AND registration sticker have to be in the lower left. If you have a small windshield it makes a complete blindspot.
There used to be fast lane, but it changed to EZ-Pass.
I grew outside of Boston and remember when fast lane was introduced. So cool. - Carl
Crazy I still have my Fast Lane Transponder!!! LOL
@@graffmixer @cheddar
fast lane and EZ pass use the same technology. Initially Fast Lane accepts EZ Pass but not the other way around, so for me who drove up and down between Maine and New Jersey a lot, it was an easy decision to get EZ Pass from NY State instead....
My first FastLane transponder had a BankBoston logo on it. When I moved out of MA, I kept it because there was no monthly fee and I could use it in other states, whereas EZPass charged at the time $2/month just to have their transponder.
Yes I remember that, but back then the Mass Turnpike accepted EZ pass. Even though I used the Mass Pike more often I got an EZ pass from the tribourgh bridge authority, it was more widely accepted.
This is the same problem for a country having multiple cities with multiple subway/metro smartcard systems. Japan used around 20 years to have all their public transport across different cities to accept and work with all NFC-enabled smart card systems in the country (mainly Suica, Penguin, Pasmo, Icoca, and 10+ different others)
China solved it by using another approach, instead of unifying existing metro smartcards, China made all metro, bus, high speed rail etc accepting Alipay and Wechat Pay as form of fare payments across hundreds of its public transport systems
Easy solution is to have no public transport.
@@UltimateBreloom 😑
Meanwhile New York City can't even integrate their commuter trains' paper tickets and the subway metrocards, and you have to pay twice if you want to transfer from the small subway that goes to New Jersey (PATH) to the main NY subway.
@@UltimateBreloom public transit good, cars bad bad
@@dxkaiyuan4177The comment above was a joke, but I wouldn't call cars bad. Having a society/infrastructure/city planning centered around the idea of car ownership is bad.
If the PA Turnpike gets anymore expensive they will have to start offering financing
No joke. I took the toll road from Chicago to Virginia Beach once. Ran out of cash around Somerset. They added $4 for the "privilege" of mailing me the bill.
@@Lawrence330 that’s nothing. When you run out of cash on your E-ZPass in NJ, they slam you with a non-disputable $50 violation fee on top of the tolls. And not to mention almost $4.00 a gallon for gas. Still potholes everywhere tho, nobody knows where the money goes
@@GalaxyAlex yes they do know! it goes into the pockets of the politicians
I saw somewhere that PA Turnpike is the WORLDS most expensive toll road
@@beast0382 naw you haven’t been to France or Italy yet LMFAOOO
I worked for easy pass for a year.
1 they make you work 16 hours MANDATORY if the person replacing you calls out of work.
2 I used to work the night shift and it's great if you're a stoner
16 hours mandatory? They better put a whole apartment inside that booth complete with full bathroom bedroom and a small area for food.
I work for one now and it's transitioning to All Electronic Tolling/Pay By Plate
@@NoHarmDunn same here, I left when covid started
@@hbarudi hell no lol.
There's a build with a bathroom and a few chips but that's it
Thanks for calling it easy pass. As a European, E- Z scares me.
Me, who lives in the EU and doesn't even drive: "Interesting..."
Yeah, I'm from Europe too and I'm wondering why the hell did I watch this? 😋
Unfortunately, most Americans are forced to drive if they want to get anywhere
@@NewKingBrandon yeah the USA is massive so most people got no choice
@@ltatyler3386 Massive has nothing to do with it. It was purposely built this way for oil companies to make money. China has an efficient railway system and it's still expanding and China is more massive then America.
@@ltatyler3386 people don't have choice bc the way cities and suburbs were created. The automobile industry lobbied hard for more roads to be built instead of public transportation back in the 50s and 60s.
This is a nightmare from hell. Some of these toll systems don't even let you just pay cash anymore. Why you can't just tap or scan a credit card baffles me and makes me irrationally angry.
Just so they can call it a late fee x10
In the north east atleast we also have "pay by plate" where if you don't have a pass the cameras on the gantry identify your licence plate and you get a bill in the mail (with options to mail a cheque or pay online with a credit or debit card). Its really convient if you don't use toll roads often as you just drive for vacation and pay a higher rate. But if you drive on the mass pike or NY throughway alot then you can get an easy pass and save money in the long-run.
I think this is a result of covid measures but it is definitely much nicer than paying change and having to stop every time you get on/off a toll road.
@@jasonreed7522
Nah, they wanted to get rid of toll workers. I remember when NY started doing this a few years ago, as far as I can tell it isn't done all over that state and not all the Northeast does it yet, but it does cut on the need for toll workers.
Fewer slow downs of traffic, fewer toll workers, they can send you a bill for a higher rate and charge additional fees if you don't already have their automatic payment setup. It make sense for there to be no cash/card option. I personally wouldn't want traffic to slow down for those paying with cash/card unless it was to a specific booth outside the main lanes of traffic.
that's not irrational anger, it's very rational.
We in India recently moved to common TOLL gateway called “FASTAG” with multiple banks ( public & private ). It’s working well, Government is planning to move a GPS based model in Future.
It should have been a good system, if people who stay in places where there are no toll roads where not arm-twisted to pay fastag.
A lot of countries are drawing ahead of the USA over the last twenty-plus years.
They’re too ‘inward looking’, as opposed to China and Russia that are too ‘outward looking’… fix your own problems first !
GPS will be crazy, it's going to be too much surveillance
@@DheerajBhaskar You won't have a problem if you have a connected car , which is always GPS enabled ??? All future cars ( driverless) will be talking to each other, of course they are going to be connected by GPS & other software's.
@@DheerajBhaskar Your car already has GPS
Fun fact Portugal's via verde was the first electronic toll system to be universally applied nation-wide
Portugal is about the size of Indiana. A better comparison is US vs all of western Europe.
Yep. I was puzzled by the portagem electronica on some brand new freeways in the porto region then. You just pass the toll booth (no barrier) and you don’t know how to pay! The car rental company never asked me for the payment afterward, so I guess it was included.
@@xouxoful ah yes porto you have very good taste indeed!
You should visit again a lot of renovation has happened and matosinhos has developed into a more modern "satellite-downtown"
Portugal always got an edge in their government somehow.
@@mirzaahmed6589 I have a Bip&Go transponder, which works in France, Spain, Portugal and Italy, which is about all Western European countries that have section tolls.
Toll roads in Norway is just a camera over the road, no need for slowing down or to stop. The invoice comes in the online bank for you to accept and pay. The only disadvantage with toll roads is the cost, no queue or inconvenient payment methods.
We have this in the USA as well. Our car number plates in the USA aren't as easy for computers to read, using smaller letters and wildly different colors sometimes difficult to read with human eyes, so the states still prefer transponders, but usually will have the plate readers for when the transponder doesn't read correctly (think Mercedes S-Class with metallic glass) or the car doesn't have a transponder.
We do this in the US also on major highways. Smaller highways still use toll stations but even those you just have to drive slow through.
Larger highways just take a picture and they charge your account, you don't slow down at all.
At least with EZ Pass on the East Coast.
America has this but it usually costs toll authorities money to look up and process license plates (hence why the preference for transponders), further because US doesn't have a uniform license plate readability is an issue (every state has their own unique design, plus vanity plates mean that license plate readers have to do work)
Passed through a pay-by-plate in eastern Pennsylvania. Not my state, maybe that's why I'm still waiting for a bill months later.
They have that system here in the US, but it isn't "free." The local toll road, for example, is tolled with EZ-Pass, and if you don't have a pass, the pay-by-plate fee is significantly higher. I think a single round trip is $11 last I checked (using the plate). It's only a mile!!!
I remember growing up & one of my friend’s brother got in trouble with his parents because he wrote a check for 80 cents. Driving back home from university he didn’t know there was a toll in the middle of nowhere. He said it was to far for him to drive back to somewhere with an atm & makes change and this was before most places accept cars. He said he tore his car apart for change and they didn’t accept pennies. Whenever I went on road trips or drove back from school I always made sure I had cash & change.
This is interesting to watch from the UK. Tax makes up a much larger proportion of the cost of petrol / gasoline, and so we have far fewer toll roads. I can only think of two toll roads which I've used recently - the Dartford Crossing (a tunnel and bridge crossing the Thames to the east of London) and the M6 toll (a less congested and privately built alternative to the M6). In the former case you pay online using your car's registration number, and in the latter case there are toll booths at the end of the road, and the standard form of payment is a contactless bank or credit card.
The UK also has a few weird toll bridges, like the one in Plymouth where you only pay in one direction thanks to county politics, and the one in Lincolnshire which costs about 40p to cross (probably set when that was actually worth something and never kept up with inflation) and probably costs more to collect than the toll is worth.
@@Croz89 Yes, they definitely exist (and there are also various toll bridges -- my favourite / the strangest IMO is the Warburton Toll Bridge which charges 12p per trip with no change given) but they're not commonly used in the same way as they are in the US.
Me watching on from Australia, where toll roads don't even have pay stations, and you either have one tiny plastic box that works in multiple states and you recharge online, or just enter your number plate and pay online: "interesting"
Yes, the states managed to link their systems together very quickly.
It's simple and work beautifully. Even if you don't pay online within time limit. It'll get mail to your address.
That's the same all across the Northeast now.
Australia also only has 6+2 states... America has 50.
Also, this video is a bit hyperbolic. The entire east half of the country uses EZ Pass, and EZ pass is compatible with other systems.
That’s how it works in Colorado. I recently was driving through Oklahoma and I was so annoyed I needed exact change for the tolls… no credit/debt cards allowed…
Interesting point of view, here in India we have a common tag system which works across entire Nation (in all the states and union territories).
FastTag
Really? That's cool, how long has it worked that way?
@@OpinionesDeJACCsOpinions almost four years stil working great.
@@mapsandbags
So it's been four years since the unification of previous Indian toll pass systems, is that what you're telling me?
@@OpinionesDeJACCsOpinions yes! earlier it was a cash based or monthly pass system.
Thank you for always answering the random questions I think of but never remember to research!
Living in Illinois, I'm pretty happy with our toll system. We do have our own dedicated system (I-Pass) but like the video said, I-Pass is now compatible with EZ Pass systems. I took a road trip to Georgia in 2020 and everything worked fine. I also appreciate that I can get to Chicago from the suburbs without having to take the toll roads, and it only takes a few minutes longer. I feel like that allows for a good compromise; the state can still charge money for road repairs through the tolls on interstate roads. Those who can't afford the tolls or don't want to pay them still have reasonable routes to take. Since the state gets funding from the tolls, they don't have to jack up the gas tax. Our gas is already crazy expensive as it is, and I only imagine it'd be a million times worse if we got rid of all our tolls.
In India, we have FastTag and it works on all toll plazas. It has made highway journeys a lot more comfortable.
It is man but they should also improve their system too.
In 2016, I drove through an EZ-Pass road by mistake for about 20 miles, but I had Canadian plates. I never received a bill nor did I get any notices about it when I had to renew my plates...
They can't bill you or do anything about it if your license plate is foreign. So basically you can just drive through it for free
@@jackwattson992
Getting my plates changed too.😋
@TsunamiFPS You’ll get a bill eventually. I had a rental with South Carolina license plates and drove on the 407 ETR and eventually I got a charge from the rental company for my use of that road.
@TsunamiFPS I drove on the 407 as well with Indiana plates, and I got a toll in the mail from them
@@Michael_Livingstone there is a difference to different state and different country
Living in the western United States, I feel like I very rarely see any toll roads. There are a couple here or there, but I didn't ever drive on one till I was out it PA visiting family.
Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Arizona, North and South Dakota, and New Mexico have no toll roads and those states are the size of big European countries so the reason you don’t see them is because there is little to none in large parts of the western United States.
It’s horrible trying to travel up in Northern California, there’s fasttrak lanes EVERYWHERE. I was in a carpool lane I interpreted as “no toll if carpooling,” but instead it was a “carpool only but you still have to pay”
@@isaachayman9231 that's good to know. I may be moving to SoCal from Utah early next year for my job, so I will have to keep an eye on that.
@@isaachayman9231 It is no toll if carpooling. You still need the transponder though.
@@isaachayman9231 in Cali, “HOT Lanes” (High-Occupancy or Toll”) are free for carpooling, but you still need a Fastrak Flex transponder that lets you tell the system (by setting a switch on the transponder) how many people are in the car. If you don’t, it assumes you’re not a carpool and tolls you. That’s why the signs all say “FasTrak Required”.
As a New Jersey resident I recognize a few of these highway (NJ Parkway) and bridges (Outercrossing bridge) images. I always wondered about this. Thanks for posting.
The Illinois toll system is unnecessarily complicated if you have to pay online. I don't have a car, so the once in a blue moon when I do drive (I borrow a car), I pay in cash. With the pandemic, the tolls for cash are closed because no one is there, so I'm forced to go through the tolls that require that device to automatically pay tolls. Anyways, when I go online to pay, I have to know what time and what tolls I passed through. The map online is missing some tolls that are on the highway exits, so that was frustrating, and it's hard to remember where I went and what time if I drove all day.
LOL, sorry about the long rant. I feel better now.
Your rant is totally justified and I 100% agree. I dealt with that online system once and that was one too many times. I immediately got myself an I-pass after that.
I'm not sure how different the online portion would be, but I-Pass tolls will accept EZPass, so maybe you could look into switching.
@@Van9fromOuterSpace I thought about it, but because I drive about once a year, it didn't seem worth it. But I may do it.
@@ntatenarin Be sure to check the terms and conditions. Unless they changed recently, the PANYNJ charges a monthly account fee. Sure not a really big deal if you're hitting the toll booth every day (well, on principle it's still despicable), but if you are only going to use once or twice a year, those monthly fees could add up. And be sure to get home version for Illinois, so that you're considered an outsider (like I would be with my nyc transponder) and probably get charged the higher rate (I don't know what Illinois does for non-Illinois drivers like me).
@@bikeny Thanks a lot for this info! I will definitely check, and if this is true, it's definitely not worth it as I rarely drive.
develop public transportation like FAST travel railways or maglevs - establish piggyback trains (load your car on a train, seat in the train for a long haul, get your off the train and drive for the last mile(s)) - the USA is too car-dependent by far,
I fully agree
The Auto Train already exists, but it can only be nonstop due to logistics issues
There is one under construction in CA from LA to SF at over 200mph
Amtrak auto train is used for cars, you can load your car on the train, and the amtrak acella express is a high speed train
Not realistic. Our population density is quite low overall as a country, and all our cities for the last 100 years have been designed around cars. Older cities and those that have high population density do fairly well with public transit, but once outside the city it falls apart and will never work for the reasons stated. I think the closest thing you'll ever see is something like a automated Uber/car share with ride sharing.
In Korea (obviously, the south one) our high way system is totally toll road, almost high ways are constructed and maintained by national road company which is runned by government. We have electric toll system called hi-pass.
Are motorcycles allowed into highways?
@@juch3 Nope, only 🚗 cars and trucks 🚚 are allowed at highway 🛣
Texas brought together three different tolling systems: TollTag in the Dallas area, EZTag (not EZ Pass) in the Houston area, and TxTag in the Austin area and elsewhere. Initially, TollTag reached compatibility with Oklahoma's PikePass and Kansas's K-Tag, then the other two followed.
Some sense prevailed
In Texas all you need is a TxTag for every toll road in the state. Some tolls in Houston say EzTag, but EzTag and TxTag are fully interchangeable.
Blessssssss up
.... that's part of the problem
LOL This video is discussing interoperability between states, not inside of a state.
@@1Rab
Why?
TxTags are also good in Oklahoma and Kansas.
Just 3 systems in the Maritime provinces of Canada is bad enough for some people to figure out. I don't even want to imagine the mess that is the USA.
We like to make things more complicated than necessary.
We used to have all those stupid incompatible toll road and bridge transponder issues in Australia but a few years back it was centralised. Now you don't even need to slow down for the toll readers. That sucker milks your bank account with a barely audible beep.
@@nevmcc3884 thankfully the transponders are all compatible with each other here, but you have to sign up for 3 different accounts and register the transponder on each one. It confuses the shit out of people 😂
How many systems are across Canada?
Then you have the toll roads in Ontario and they gouge the fuck out of you.
I have a NTTA Tolltag and an NC Quickpass (with EZ Pass), this combination works on the vast majority of toll roads. The NC Quickpass is interoperable with Sunpass and Peachpass as well.
Notice the sign at 5:39. It's $3.00 for a aNY State EZPASS, but $7.50 for other EZPASS transponders or no transponder at all. That concept started a number of years ago so that I in NYC with the MTA ezpass get shafted if I drive on the NJ Turnpike, go over the George Washington Bridge (in to NYC) or on the Garden State Parkway. I haven't looked at those tolls recently, but they have peak/off-peak rates and iirc, I would end up paying peak rates no matter the time.
Ok, let's see the rest of the video. So more tolls? Well, the problem, again, here in the NYC area, is how efficient are the agencies spending the money? The MTA here gouges us for the bridges and tunnels we go over or through because not only do they run those things, they run the buses and subways and railroads here and the tolls are calculated to generate a 'surplus' that is given to those divisions. A motorist wonders why?
So, my wish is for the transponders to be equal so that ny and nj and the rest of the ezpass cabal are not gouging the other members (i.e., me when I drive out of nyc).
Some comments mention the license plate charging method. Do you see the difference in toll rate in that sign? We're not talking nominal difference. Sure some bridges, tunnels, or roads might have nominal differences between a transponder toll rate and the license plate rate, but I suspect not.
The bay bridge in maryland has a $2.50 toll for MD ezpass and and $4 toll for everyone else. I dont live in MD but I bought an MD ezpass just because I went over that bridge a lot
In Sweden the tolls are just cameras and a sign. They scan your registration plate and send you one bill for all the toll fees every month. No toll booths, no hassle, no need to even slow down.
EZPass will send a bill that way, but it's usually not the same price as letting it read the transponder. Some tolls, using the transponder is cheaper, at others it's better to run it and get the bill.
Same thing here, that's called Pay-by-plate. It's just that transponders like EZPass are always cheaper
In Melbourne this system also exists but there are fees for identifying the plate and forming a bill so prepaying via a transponder is cheaper.
Majority of the toll roads in the US have the system as well. There's just other options on some.
In Germany you don’t even have to pay to use the roads
In Massachusetts we use to have Fast Lane, then one day out of the blue it turned into EZ Pass
5:18 - EZ-Pass began on the New York Thruway, serving cars using the three flat-rate toll-plazas at the south end of I-87.
Fuel tax is less "painful" than tolls. I lived in South Africa, where some of the toll roads were built and operated by private companies. I'm now in Poland, where the tolls are quite expensive. However, tolls in Poland make sense due to international cross travel. Fuel tax fails when someone fills up outside of your border, drives on your roads without refulling, and leaves your sysem. Fuel tax also penelises drivers who don't use highways. It is a quite an interesting dilemma.
Huh, that's a very interesting perspective. I hadn't thought about it, but thanks to the Schengen Area there's lots of international trucking going on in Europe and such traffic is hard on the roadways and thus in order to have the proper upkeep the only reliable way would be through tolls because you can't guarantee that they'll fill up in the country, although I'm sure they also do that every so often.
So, how do they pay the tolls? Via cash, they take pictures of the license plates and sent the bill to where it was registered, pass system, or something else?
Love these types of vids
A significant portion of people hate premieres, rather having it available right away. It also makes the video more forgettable since you tried to watch it once, it wasn't available, and then is less impactful the next time you see it when it's actually up.
I just click "watch later" and watch it later. it's the smallest inconvenience I could imagine
Premier is a good feature when used correctly. For instance a comparison of how Richard and Jeff got to space timed for after the event should be done would make sense.
This video had zero logic to why use the premier feature other than being random. Just another example of the format consisting of 9th grade writing skills. They think they know everything about a topic and run with it
I guess trucks and small businesses or even commerce in general simply don't exist because Cheddar can't think outside of their bubble.
Madonna used TH-cam premiere feature for a recording of a performance from over a decade ago and it was just like…..why
premier feature ..?
- for people who want to comment - " first! "
@@58octopuslegion my "watch later" is like my Netflix "list", a place where videos go to be forgotten and never watched.
In France we have the "Télépéage" and works everywhere. The tolled highways are owned by private administrations (it used to be owned by the government back in a day, not anymore). But each different administrations on the various stretches of France's toll highways use the same electronic transponder
Electronic Toll systems were not developed here, they originated in Portugal, with ViaVerde
Not true. This goes all the way back to 1959 when William Vickrey was the first to propose a system of electronic tolling for the Washington Metropolitan Area. In the 1960s and the 1970s, the first prototype systems were tested, and later Norway became a world pioneer in the widespread implementation of this technology, beginning in 1986.
The "expert" saying it makes sense to have a separate eastern, western and middle systems just shows how little of an expert he is..
I'm sure he means given our current system. 1 transponder and app would be better
It makes sense that it became this way
I'm from Virginia and get to use my EZ pass in Indiana and Illinois next week on a road trip. Yay
I moved from NY to Il and dumped my EZ pass in favor of the I-Pass. No monthly maintenance fee was the kicker. Since I-Pass should work same as EZ pass it is something to consider.
@@john36855 New York does not have a monthly maintenance fee.
@@petenielsen6683 The transponder I had did have a fee back in 2017. They still list the fee on their website under section 16 of their terms and conditions for individuals www.e-zpassny.com/en/about/terms_ind.shtml
In Washington State one of the major freeways had a major expansion which added 2 toll lanes/carpool. A Texas company set up and operates the electronic tolling system. But they keep 70% of the revenue and 30% goes to the “WADOT” Washington Department of Transportation. You either have to buy a “Good to go” transponder for the vehicle. Or they mail you the toll bill plus a $2.00 surcharge
I remember awhile back driving on the toll road that went parallel to the east of I-35 in Texas between Georgetown, TX (just north of Austin) and San Antonio to the south. It was an incredible road with speed limits up to 80mph but it was EMPTY! I got on at Georgetown and only went as far as the Austin airport where I was dropping somebody off but the round trip cost of using the toll road for that short distance was close to $40. This didn’t take me by surprise as I knew it would cost me but I wanted to try it out at least once. No way would I make this a part of my regular commute no matter how much time it saved me.
in texas there’s 3 different toll tags… but they do all have interoperability.. toll tag in dfw area, txtag in central tx and other state run roads and ezpass in the houston area … only toll tag works in oklahoma and kansas though
TxTag and EZ Tag are supposed to work in Oklahoma and Kansas. Likewise PikePass and K-Tag should work throughout Texas.
Those of us who rarely use toll roads get the shaft when we do. The cost goes up substantially if you don't have a pass, and many toll points now don't even take cash, so fees get added for toll-by-plate, at least here in central FL. The "veterans expressway" is quite expensive without Sun Pass, I'm a veteran and no break.
When driving in France i learned about the LiberT
Same all across france.
In my home country denmark we have brobizz & pay by plate which can even be used for parking payment at certain places. Easy to use.
The problem is there are different types of protocols the tag use. In Florida, we have two different tags, Sunpass which is run by the state, and E-Pass which is run by a quasi-government agency of two counties in the Orlando area. Both of those tags work with each other but it is a headache for billing. With Ez-pass, if you go through a toll in Florida it may take a few days for it to post to your account where as if you go through a epass lane with an epass it happens almost instantly. Also if you have both tags, you either get charged twice or it doesnt read at all, which means you can get a nice bill in the mail.
India did E tolls in a year implementation was really quick nationwide
I drive most of my miles around Southern California and Southern Nevada…All of its FREE…WHAT’s A TOLL??! Haven’t seen one since I moved away from New Jersey in the 1990’s
There's some toll roads in Southern Orange County, one bypasses the 5 and 405 freeways.
@@jerradwilson I am aware of that… They’re just not necessary like they are in certain parts of the country where you have no choice, particularly the Northeast
Orange county actually does have a few toll roads but they are newer and of higher quality than the rest of the "free" congested highways in socal.
@@seanthe100 I'm not sure I'd call 241 and 133 'higher quality roads', just saying
In Australia there's six or seven tag companies across the three main eastern states yet all have worked on each others roads for two decades. There is only one thing stopping the same happening in the US - stubbornness, laziness and the desire to cause waste and inconvenience.
Interesting thing, for commercial trucks you can already get a universal transponder. It's called Pre-pass elite. Not only does it handle pre-pass, which is the in-cab signal for weigh stations, but it also works on all toll roads.
I wonder if Pre-pass has a universal transponder for non -commercial vehicles?
Truckers shouldn't have to pay a dime
I keep seeing the west coast on these maps of tolls and yet I swear to god I havent encountered any. I always feel like tollways are a total east coast thing, they feel utterly foreign to me.
Just some express lanes in SoCal and bridges across the San Francisco Bay. Most California Freeways are free.
I was so confused when I saw two toll routs on Oregon in the map part, I've lived there most of my life and have never encountered a toll road it's the reason why I was so pissed off when I started driving in Southern California because there were so many fast track (toll lanes) here that bog down traffic because the exit lanes for them are so horribly designed which causes people in those lanes to merge over into oncoming traffic in order to get to an offramp.
there’s not many toll roads except in the northeast. though ive seen a lot of them spring up in the southeast recently
The only toll road I can ever recall in Oregon is Bridge of the Gods, crossing into WA. Is that even still a thing? Regardless, I searched “Oregon toll roads” and found on the oregon.gov pg a short explanatory video about how a toll will work, in the future.
@@UserName-ts3sp I’ve never driven in the northeast. I live in Arizona and frequently drive in California and New Mexico, so I rarely see toll roads. Hell… It’s rare that I ever even pay to park. Where I’ve most experienced toll roads is Oklahoma. My mother lives in McAlester, and my sister in Tulsa. The most direct way between them is a tollway, and it’s a very nice very fast road with very limited access. My mother refuses to pay the toll, so she takes the old road and goes the long way through Eufaula and Muskogee. I tried both routes, and to me it was well worth the savings on time and gas to pay the toll. I never got a pass, though. There’s a machine where you get on that takes cash, and it’s only a couple bucks.
As a German without Toll System "Interesting..."
Dutch joining in. I'm not surprised. Anything tax related always gets a lot of flack and if you get used to this (because politicians have made you believe that it is the best system) then you will only get more flack.
Meanwhile in the Netherlands we probably have the best maintained and high quality road system in the world without any toll roads. Well sure if you look at wikipedia it mentions 3 or 4 but those are very small and on private land so basically not public roads anyways. Still, 99,99% is normal. Regardless many countries without tolls are often not as well maintained but that doesn't fly for the Netherlands. Or the US for that matter, their toll roads are still shit quality most of the time
Manche Tunnel haben hier Maut.
@@Martinspire Oosterscheldetunnel en kiltunnel hebben tol. Ook zal het laatste stuk van de A15 rol krijgen
Your country is super small and very populated. It is very easy to build them
Ever heard of "Toll Collect"? Germany has a toll system in place for trucks.
Here in Brazil the tolls are very different, in the toll there is a manual toll, with cash, and an automatic toll, which you quickly go through the toll without facing the queue, the automatic toll works with a sticker that you buy at the supermarket and sticks to the car window, it works at all tolls of all companies (dealership) in all states.
This past summer we drove from Pittsburgh to Sarasota. My PA EZ Pass worked fine in West Virginia, Charlotte and Florida.
This is so interesting, watching from a state that has zero toll roads.
What state is that Alaska?
@@mrbrainbob5320Nope, TN. Idk if I've ever even drove through one going to NC, SC, or GA even though I know they have them. They are super foreign to me.
Whenever I see or hear about toll roads, I'm glad I grew up in a state where they were mostly illegal. I've only seen one toll road that I remember in my home state, and that was to the neighborhood my friend's family's summer home is in.
I don't know of this is still the case, but Pikepass (for Oklahoma) worked in TX and KS when I first got mine.
The first electronic toll collection system in the US was the Crescent City Connection Bridge Toll Tags.
I live in a state that doesn't have tolls, but travel alot to states that have tolls. It be nice if all the states that have tolls ran off the same transponder system so I could just buy a transponder and take with me to save the cost of the (lack of) "convenience" fee the rental car companies charge.
The east coast has this its been around for I think two years now. I live in Florida and you can either buy a normal sunpass or a sunpass+ which allows you to use it up and down the eastcoast toll s ezpass is also in this system
And I believe they’re phasing out the regular ones to fhe plus
license plate sometimes repeat with in different state, so there is a high chance that if you just drive past you may not get a letter in the mail, and some unlucky person that shares your license plate will get it. its not the best option but the fault is also with the company.
I have driven between NY and FL multiple times now, and it's nice that the sunpass pro and e-zpass transponders work in both states (idk about other types of sunpass transponders)
Sunpass sticker ones will not work, have to get the box.
@@joshuasims3448 yeah thats what i thought
You need the Sunpass Pro
Greetings from Germany
No toll roads
No speed Limit
Yeah but does German Federal Government pay for the roads completely by themselves? In US, the federal,state,municipality all pitch in to make a road/freeway but it's up to the county or municipality to pay for maintenance which costs a LOT of money. Germany also has good public transport too.
Wunderbar!!
Germany also has barley grown for decades their population has remained stagnant for so Long. In the US the population grew 22 million 30% of Germany in the last ten years and that's slow population growth. Something that wasn't mentioned in this video is growth is driving a lot of this construction and adoption of toll roads. Growth is something that Germany and many European countries don't have to deal with at the moment.
6:20 Home of tax-free shopping, because we get you with the tolls.
I worked for I-Pass.. and the company that operates the toll system, TransCore operates the pass systems, if they wanted "inoperability" they could have easily done it... YEARS AGO!! It literally comes down to them dolla dolla bills y'all! We should all know this by now.
Here in mexico it was always unified. At the begging it was only IAVE, but other tags appeared and they worked fine
I live in New Jersey and I didn't even know there was another system besides ez-pass
Exactly. I thought it was the same all over
Oh yeah that. I always asked my dad about it, and all I learned was “trucks, random, and that 1 lane where you need a pass”
In Massachusetts, paying with cash is no more. Now whenever you drive on a toll road in MA, and you don't use an auto pay service, the toll gets sent to you via a mailed invoice that you pay either by mailing a check or online, using your invoice number as a reference
I live in Belgium where there are no toll roads perhaps because nearly half of the price of gas is tax but for public transport around Brussels you may have to get 6 different subscriptions to get around
You should do a video on the toll roads going cashless and how the financial aspects of that affects everything from revenue to the economy with so many jobs eliminated
My Google maps is always set to avoid tolls. I can't stand them.
I agree with you as to not liking them, but depending on where one is those alternatives might add some significant time and/or distance to your trip. Are the tolls in your area like what I have here in NYC? Going over some of the bridges costs $6.55 one way if you have the nyc ezpass. If you don't have it or you have none, it costs $10.17.
@@bikeny it's usually more convenience here than necessary bridges. If the time saved is less than 30 to 60 minutes I'll usually pass if I have the time or work isn't paying.
And it still fails at that. I told it to avoid tolls and it tells me a faster route is available and automatically switched to it. That was a toll road. Other than that, Google Maps is usually good.
Same and regular highways usually hit up the highways if I need to way too many people that are idiots
When crossing the Hudson River it would add several 100 miles and hours of travel time to avoid a toll in NY. If you want to drive to New York City from New Jersey, you have to drive up to the Canadian border.
If you want to drive to Staten Island there is no bridge without a toll.
You just can’t avoid a toll on some trips.
Here in the UK, apart from a few river crossings, we have 43.45 kilometres (27 miles) of toll road. I live a few kilometres from it, but have never used it. However, our fuel tax is stratospheric, with a litre of petrol currently averaging £1.46 ($1.95), that is $5.5 a gallon.
This was very informative. Since am planning on moving to the Mainland and the toll system is way to complex , in comparison to where am from.
Make EZ Pass the master pass for every state
No thanks pradeep the ez pass is invented by Satan
I didn't know know there was anything other than EZ-Pass. I've never heard of any of these
I live in North Carolina, which has its own NC QuickPass. But it is compatible with SunPass & PeachPass (SC, GA, FL), Washington DC Express Lane, and EZ Pass from DC to Maine. I have driven all over with just the NC transponder.
@@steeleslicer1217 I've been down there in those states a couple times on 95. Never seen tolls past North Virginia. I though u guys didn't have any.
@【 ocean 】 🤣
That’s because only 29 states have electronic tolls and out of those 29 EZ-pass has 19 of them and on their way to get more states while every other electronic pass operates on a state by state basis, eventually EZ-Pass will be the one to rule them all.
Thank you for the shot of one of Boston’s old toll plaza!!! I kind of miss going through those but it’s also much faster when they’re overhead and you don’t have to slow down/completely stop.
EZ Pass (Massachusetts)!!! 🙋🏻♂️
As a Canadian I had the irritating run in with toll roads while on a US road trip. Somewhere near Oklahoma I ran into a toll booth where it had a bunch of lanes specifically for transponders and the only other booths were not accepting cash, with zero staff present anywhere. I sat there for a couple minutes thinking to myself what the heck to do. No place to turn around, so I ended up driving through and leaving as the toll wasn't accepting cash. This was around 2005 and all other tool booths either had a place to dump coins, or a person to accept cash.
In Illinois we have I-Pass but it’s fully compatible with EZ-Pass which is interesting
The politicians' ego are the reason that the 'I' is required in the name. Heaven forbid we would do anything that would not imply that this all originated in the great state of Illinois.
The comments explains why Cheddar has to dumb down and oversimplify their explanations.
I lovee the fast lanes in Miami and Ft Lauderdale, i also love the express bypass in dallas thats partially underground, you go past allll the rush hour traffic on the main freeway. And the speed limit is like 80mph!!
Thanks for this video
now I know more info about tolls
Interoperability is just a matter of corporate will and market existence. What you need is a communication network nationwide and capability to compensate among participants through the banking or payment system. More interesting is the fact that every time you find a need and people willing to pay, then you have a business; the most expensive toll roads are whithin the Mexico City just to go from corporate zone to home avoiding the freeways that are stucked by traffic in rush hours. In Mx, since 2014, we have four different operators (three private and one government), they interoperate when they want. We need an independent clearing house in order to make it functional.
"Somebody's gotta go back and get a $#%*load of dimes."
William J Le Petomane Thruway
"LePetomane Thruway??? Now what'll that a**hole think of next?!"
"We must do something to preserve our phony baloney jobs gentlemen".
*Shitload
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I was on USA im 2018 and 2020. On 2018 we went from PA to Frorida. We have EZpass and it worked with SunPass reading tools.
Well here in Minnesota our toll roads are more like express lanes. You can get to where ever you are going without paying tolls. But you can get there faster in rush hour if you pay for the express lane.
In California they stopped allowing cash through tolls bc of COVID so they use license plate to find your registration and send you the bill in the mail which you then use tonlog in online and pay. I think they should continue this but allow you to create an account and have a card on file to automatically pay the fee instead of getting a letter in the mail.
That's what Fastrak is for. Paying after the fact online is for those who don't have it.
Jeez, no wonder why US Infrastructure is falling the hell apart. Absolutely nobody wants to do anything about the Gas Tax.
What an idiotic oversight to tie infrastructure spending and quality to a single revenue source, something as absolutely volatile and politically charged as a tax no less.
It wouldn't be so bad if it had increased since(last I checked) the 90s
They should scrap the gas tax system and switch over to carbon tax.
Should also charge annual registration by weight, since that's the main driver of road wear. EVs are surprisingly heavy despite the lack of fluids.
Coming to France, getting a "télépéage" by any of the numerous toll road providers and it works also in Spain and in many parking garages....
Just down the road from me, there is a palmetto pass for only coastal South Carolina. It sucks.
Same here in Europe.
I wish we had a single system.
We have toll roads?
@@TheSimon253 of course we do
@@edipires15 Where? As far as I'm aware we don't have them in Northern Europe.
@@TheSimon253 Sweden and Norway have toll roads. To be fair, all of Europe has some form of toll roads (especially for trucks). Southern and Eastern Europe are full of toll roads
@@edipires15 I'm Swedish and we don't. We have congestion tax but that's not the same.
before I started traveling, I didn't know about toll roads because they didn't exist in Tennessee--
Here in Oregon we have like 1 toll road and 2 toll bridges. All of those are never fully used. However I-5 is toll free and is getting 3 lanes it's whole length so I can't say from what I've seen that tolls help to much
The toll plazas you show in Massachusetts were all torn down years ago. Nice archival footage. Everything is done on the road via overhead gantries - pay by plate or via a transponder (with different rates for the two as well as in-state versus our-of-state transponders).
And that's a trend now thanks to the pandemic...
How does that pay by plate thing works when for instance a Canadian drives by with his own car (who probably doesn't have a transponder, at least not one that works in the US)?
And as tourist that can be quite a surprise when you get an extra bill from your rental agency.
I know here in Europe we have a toll in most countries, but only for large trucks. And as of course it's also not unified, they sometimes have 10 transponders in their truck, depending on where they normally go.
They should have kept cash as an option. How annoying you got to wait for the mail and pay, what if you aren't planning to be home for a month?
I will NEVER pay a single toll on a single toll road. I never have and I never will. I always select "avoid tolls" on the app and put on a lovely audio book and the greedy, grasping thieves trying to steal my money with tolls can choke on it.
In Georgia, it's PeachPass and that's used on I-75, 85, and 575 across Metro Atlanta.
Very in depth!!
Just don’t forget your EZ Tag! Nope! Not that that one! Nope, not that one either. The other one, from that one state! Yeah, that one (no wait, use the tag for that one specific tollway tho)