Grifters are almost by definition, charming and persuasive people, who will lie for personal gain. This should be particularly evident to a journalist.
She literally had 2 kids during the course of her trial to try to get a lighter sentence. Those poor kids will grow up without a Mom now. She's a monster.
As a nurse, I was highly upset about her scandal. The idea that she had was absolutely remarkable and it was absolutely change the world. It’s a damn shame. She lied about everything to get money.
Theranos actually ran blood testing pathology centres which gave many false diagnoses to paying customers/patients regarding various health conditions including autoimmune diseases, pregnancy status and cancer. She's a monster who knowingly played games with real people's health for the sake of being rich and famous.
What gets me is that she is a college dropout with absolutely no experience in the field at all. It was an idea that a lot of people said is impossible. A lot of people with expertise in the field. It is one thing to have a rough plan, but she didn't even have that. Yet, she convinced a lot of successful people to give her a lot of money. And she wasn't "self made". Her family is wealthy. She had all of the advantages that go along with it.
Compulsive lying to investors, mistreating and overworking employees and firing them if they were honest about the product that, when launched, would genuinely hurt people when they used faulty results from it. She's a skilled manipulator.
I asked ChatGPT to write an article praising Holmes and it came up with this: I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, it would not be appropriate for me to write a newspaper article that praises Elizabeth Holmes or her former company, Theranos. Holmes and Theranos have been the subject of multiple investigations and lawsuits over allegations of fraud and misconduct related to their blood-testing technology. In fact, Holmes was recently convicted of multiple charges of fraud and faces up to 20 years in prison. As an AI language model, my goal is to provide factual and unbiased information.
Having that baby really paid off, not only did it help her get a lighter sentence she can use it for PR for many years to come, sounds like it worked like a charm in that interview.
No, her baby didn’t really do anything. Just perhaps delayed the trial. It was her million dollars lawyers, paid by her stupid husband that helped cut off a few years from her sentence. And the dumb jury, made up of rich, out of touch San Jose elitist that found her not guilty of endangering patients, but not defrauding rich losers who couldn’t do their due diligence
When they say there is no “White Privilege”, she lied to cancer patients & others delaying their real diagnosis & care. Meanwhile Black & Brown men & women who sold marijuana are still sitting in prison. Disgusting. 👺
@@GoldenHairAngel I don’t need to teach you what you already know. NOT ONE person should be in prison for selling marijuana when White men are making millions selling it from Colorado - California.
@@GoldenHairAngel She was sentenced for being a Thief & a Liar and should be in jail already, not doing useless interviews & having more time with her family. She wasn’t thinking about family when the millions were rolling in at sick peoples expense. 👏🏾👏🏾
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After seeing more of this story, I realized that she probably had the kid specifically to generate sympathy so that the judge and the public wouldn't come down so hard on her. Makes me worry about that kid who's being used as a prop and is likely to grow up trapped in a cycle of narcissistic abuse.
Oh she ABSOLUTELY got pregnant to put off jail time. Then got pregnant again. It wasn't a coincidence that it happened when it did. She's using the kids to manipulate people for herself.
@@RR-ds4sd If she was breastfeeding the baby as the article states, that means she was pregnant, because otherwise she wouldn't be lactating, so I'm pretty sure it was her kid.
I hate to bring this factor in. But I will. She is a “white privileged woman” and fits the image of societal innocence. She fits the bill of the right wing media that NYT uses for their agenda.
And that is exactly what Holmes used to her advantage to con the world and get a lesser jail sentence. She is GUILTY and was COMPLICIT. Clearly Elizabeth is still fraudulent and has learned nothing from being convicted of her crimes.
I don't know. I don't feel 11years and 900 million restitution a lighter sentence. I know I probably wouldn't last 11years. Especially if I was used to that lifestyle.
@@UkeCan1 She was sentenced in November. Normal people think she should have started her sentence. Unfortunately, we don't get to dictate the appeals process. Every one of us has the same rights on appeal. It's very rare we have the money it takes. (Bail, high priced lawyers)
Yes but only for the poor and working class. The amount of rich people and politicians never brought to justice is huge, it’s one law for the hardworking and no laws for the well off and privileged. She should be stripped of every penny and start at the bottom. Instead some are already starting to rehabilitate her image and character. Immoral, unfair and disgusting. T
A judge has just made a ruling that she has to go back to prison while she appeals, she cannot remain out. The financial ruling has also just confirmed she must begin the payments now. T
Her product caused harm to patients that used her invention. That is unforgivable. I hope she spends a LOT of time in prison. Also, the writer kept talking about her children. Two children I believe she had while she was being investigated in order to get sympathy from the court. I don't believe she necessarily had those kids because she wanted them. She had them in hopes of a shorter prison sentence.
She got pregnant so that she had a card to play in court. She is a despicable human being and I feel so bad for her kid or kids. She's a broken liar and needs to suffer the consequences for her actions.
Indeed... she's doing the old hiding behind family and children shtick. She is despicable to use her children to dodge her well earned prison sentence.
Elizabeth Holmes is a menace to society. She's a narcissist. Of course she is charming, convincing, etc. That is what makes her such a good con artist.
Holmes likely paid for this piece, when she should be stripped of ALL her resources. Her children are in danger as they are clearly being used as human shields.
Good thing the judge saw behind Elizabeth/Liz’s scam and rejected her request to stay out of prison because “Liz” has a baby. The NYT is disgusting. They need to retract this piece and apologize to the readers.
Or leave the article, and publish a counter piece from Cenk and Ana! That would be entertaining, and I would buy 2 copies of that edition. But the NYT would never let that happen.
The main thing that infuriates me is why does she get to stroll through a zoo and have a baby when many other women aren't afforded that respect? She'll be fine through life. But lower class women involved in far more minor crimes struggle through life and i don't see NYT jumping to interview and humanize any of them. But do please tell me how we should applaud 'Liz'. Poor girly was just trying to be a girl boss, guys!
She still more believable than Drumph. And almost 48% of the country still believes him enough to prolly vote for him. After that, this almost seems sane. I could see why people would really WANT to believe her. I see no reason why anyone would even want to believe Trump. Even his promises are horrible.
I was in Delhi, walking around the tourist area when a man came up to me and said "Sir, you have sh!t on your shoe." I looked down and sure enough, there was a freshly deposited, gleaming dollop of cow dung on top of my shoe. He then offered to clean it off for 20 Rupees. "Liz" Holmes obviously knows all the scams. She probably deposited the dog drool on the reporter's shoe before offering to clean it up. What a disgrace!
Looks like the NYT reporter was given an exclusive visit inside "Liz's" Edison machine and typically came out with a fake result. The irony of it is bitingly hilarious if it wasn't stomach turning in its grotesqueness!
Liz was sentenced to 11 years and 3 months. See lost her bid to remain free while she appealed her conviction and was scheduled to report to prison on April 27th. Her surrender date was automatically delayed until the 9th Circuit rules on her appeal.
This was classic Ana and Cenk… this was informative, hilarious, and truthful! The cynicism and sarcasm is amazing… 👏🏻 That’s what you need when reporting on these ridiculous situations…
It wasn’t informative. They missed a couple pretty big details, one being that she’s really trying to avoid a prison sentence and the other that the editor basically told the journalist that she’s an idiot.
Problem is, the prosecution didn't really care about people suffering and dying beause of her lies. They only really went after her for embarrassing rich and power people. It's not even that they lost money, but the very public embarrassment that she caused to them.
LOL we both said, "Oh shut up" at the exact same time. And while we're at it, let's stop saying things like "she developed." She had the idea to make a machine that would "do it all." And that's it. Every professional she went to about the idea told her that it could not be done, but she decided she knew better than them and reached out to investors anyway. The plain truth is that if such a machine were possible, it would have been developed already by a company with way more resources, opportunity, and most importantly, experience in that industry. All of those machines require a certain amount of space and room to properly operate and you just can't "make them smaller." That's why everyone isn't just enriching uranium at home. The equipment required to produce the force necessary is bound by the laws of physics. Regardless of what first name she uses, Holmes thought she was smarter than the laws of physics and regardless if the intent was malicious or not, she defrauded people based on that premise. In science people should always push and question, but no one ever bothers to point out that Holmes took a bunch of money from people for questions other qualified people had been looking the answers to for longer than she's been alive. If those machines could be made smaller and more efficient, it would have been done already. It will get done when it's possible and it's going to be one of already the major players who have been working for generations to improve medical equipment as technology becomes available.
The NYT piece should say: I realized I was writing about a sociopath who not only could not stop herself from lying, but she also took great pleasure from it. She was the woman who lied about her business skills and technical expertise, now she is the woman who is trying to repair her image to avoid a lengthy prison sentence.
It's not just that she stole money. She also posed a direct health risk to the public. She put out medical technology on a massive scale that people relied on.
Even "The Verge" isn't strong enough in its language. Let's be clear, Holmes didn't start out with a dream and overreach. She _set out_ to be a fraudster. She purposefully chose never to understand the biochemistry behind blood testing. She was directly offered lessons and declined. Instead, the entirety of her effort went into being more convincing. Body language, kino, vocal inflection, dressing, _everything._ She _wanted_ to hurt people, because she didn't care about their pain. Only their money. It's true, everybody gets to live their life. "Liz" Holmes can move on... _far away from anybody else's money._
That's the whole thing about it, spot on. Charles Mansion did have some musical talent but obviosly extremely creepy, violent, manipulative, and dangerous.
She needs to be put in Prison... She's a Criminal and absolutely nothing was captivating about her taking funding for a product that didn't work was totally dishonest and manipulative...
The "New York Times" was, for most of my adult life, my paper of record. If I subscribed to nothing else, as long as I read the NYT I felt like I was getting a well-rounded daily dose of information and insight. Ugh, I'm so embarrassed for them about this piece, it makes my stomach hurt. Like, this puff piece might have found a better outlet in something like online fan fiction.
This story is also a reflection of American values. Americans value wealth, status, and achieving the American dream so much, that how it's achieved doesn't matter much.
and guess what, she'll leverage her kid to get an early release also. It's kinda hilarious how gullible people are. She's a career criminal and will always be. She's a sociopath and always will be.
Every defense lawyer in America has now burned the name Amy Chozick into memory. Her next article , "Jeffrey Dalmer, cannibalistic psychopath or misunderstood culinary genius?"
Maybe the question should’ve been “you knew you were facing significant jail time, why did you decide to get pregnant twice when you knew you weren’t going to be in those kids life for a substantial amount of time?” Maybe that would’ve been too mean
They surely did from Musk in the past, so you are right. Santos probably is a nice human beeing, because he wanted to feed his even nonexistent fish once.
I can’t wait till this reporter interviews the Purdue family , she will just love the OxyContin samples in candy dishes everywhere. On the mantel, on the sofa table, on the end table, the sofa, the coffee table,… they even had one on the floor. They were absolutely mesmerizing. I found myself nearly catatonic with awe at their kindness
As sad as the opiate crisis is, and as criminal the Purdue Pharma, your description of the candy dishes everywhere brings a little comic relief. It reminds me of my GF always has a candy dish of M&Ms. I'm now hooked on M&Ms. I can imagine Oxys.
@@jackkanoff6265 the opiate crisis is sad and absolutely criminal. I wish I could say I can't believe .... I but I know a little life is valued by our country. I do hope that my silliness is not interpreted as an aggression toward
Good mother? Arguably Holmes had children as a ploy to get out of or at least shorten or delay a predictably lengthy prison sentence. But we knew her morals were crap, right?
She's just so wholesome that she spit shined my shoes using her dogs slobber! And after I somehow lose my wallet, she was kind enough to return it after only taking all my money and using my credit card only a few dozen times.
It's not just the fraud. She was Hanibal Lector scary and vicious to the employees that questioned the effectiveness and pushed for being honest with the public.
If it’s any consolation, the NYT comment section was filled with readers who disagreed with the author’s premise. EH is obviously a fraud and the NYT needs to have better discretion in their choice of what to print. Either that, or they could change their tagline to, “All the news that’s fit to print…and some that isn’t.”
Absolutely agree. Not one positive comment on the comment section. Proof right there. Amy Chozick completely embarrassed herself as a journalist. I've never read anything so ridiculous. It's like she never heard or knew exactly who and what Elizabeth Holmes did
Its the overwhelming privledge for me. Imagine her skin was a few shades darker. Do you think she would be free until she finishes raising her kid...which she had just for that purpose
I’m not even a journalist & I can think of severally questions off the top of my head that would have been better than this NYTimes article: 1) How do you think your actions have contributed to the situations that has resulted with Theranos and your trial? 2) Do you believe that you are guilty or innocent of fraud? 3) Why do you think a jury has found you guilty of fraud? 4) If you could go back in time, what decision would you change or what actions would you have done differently? 5) Your legacy, as it stands, has created a significant doubt about your character. Is there any opportunity for redemption? 6) Your father was an executive of Enron, & the downfall of Theranos has a reputation that is arguably just as comparable. What do you say to criticisms that you were never intending to create a product that worked? Why should we believe you didn’t intend to commit fraud?
1) I...I...I relied too much on my team and Sunny Balwani. I trusted them too much. 👁👁 2) If I am guilty, I am guilty of trying to do too many things at once and relied too much on my lab team. I am devastated that I put too much of my judgment on them. 🍼👶 3) Behind every glass ceiling, there is an iron lady. And some people are afraid of that. 4) I would've stop relying on so much on my team.👁👁 5) If I were given enough time, my legacy of changing healthcare would've been realized. I still want to contribute innovations to the healthcare industry. What higher purpose is there?👁👁 6) When someone invented something so world changing, there should be questions and criticism. That shows that you've done something that's transformative. 🍼👶
@@PungiFungi 7) Follow up about your father. Do you think any of the fraud he committed at Enron had influenced your ethics or morals when working at Theranos?
@@allsaints1951 7) I once wrote a letter to my father on how I want to discover something mankind had not discovered yet, that to invent something they thought was impossible. He had always encouraged me to change the world. (super 👁👁)
@@PungiFungi (Please don’t break character) 8) Were the potentially dangerous medical implications of patients who received inaccurate diagnosis due to Theranos’ devices a concern for you? Or were you prioritizing the illusion of a successful product being available on the market over the efficacy of the product?
Grifters are almost by definition, charming and persuasive people, who will lie for personal gain. This should be particularly evident to a journalist.
One of her employees committed suicide after being fired for trying to expose her and she literally didn’t care at all
She’s redeemable in their eyes because she’s a white woman which is a demographic thats often portrayed as a victim that needs to be protected
She literally had 2 kids during the course of her trial to try to get a lighter sentence. Those poor kids will grow up without a Mom now. She's a monster.
Genius, she should get a patent for that.
It might be the best thing that ever happened to those kids given she's a psycho.
As a nurse, I was highly upset about her scandal. The idea that she had was absolutely remarkable and it was absolutely change the world. It’s a damn shame. She lied about everything to get money.
Theranos actually ran blood testing pathology centres which gave many false diagnoses to paying customers/patients regarding various health conditions including autoimmune diseases, pregnancy status and cancer. She's a monster who knowingly played games with real people's health for the sake of being rich and famous.
Yes
What gets me is that she is a college dropout with absolutely no experience in the field at all. It was an idea that a lot of people said is impossible. A lot of people with expertise in the field. It is one thing to have a rough plan, but she didn't even have that. Yet, she convinced a lot of successful people to give her a lot of money. And she wasn't "self made". Her family is wealthy. She had all of the advantages that go along with it.
I agree. The journalist should be fired for such BS….. and the times publishing this. My god
I remember there were people defending her saying that we were being too hard on her just because she's a woman 🤦
Compulsive lying to investors, mistreating and overworking employees and firing them if they were honest about the product that, when launched, would genuinely hurt people when they used faulty results from it. She's a skilled manipulator.
she is a psychopath.. manipulator is too kind
I asked ChatGPT to write an article praising Holmes and it came up with this: I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, it would not be appropriate for me to write a newspaper article that praises Elizabeth Holmes or her former company, Theranos. Holmes and Theranos have been the subject of multiple investigations and lawsuits over allegations of fraud and misconduct related to their blood-testing technology. In fact, Holmes was recently convicted of multiple charges of fraud and faces up to 20 years in prison. As an AI language model, my goal is to provide factual and unbiased information.
This makes me optimistic about AI. Maybe where humans don't have sense, the AI can have integrity!
Having that baby really paid off, not only did it help her get a lighter sentence she can use it for PR for many years to come, sounds like it worked like a charm in that interview.
No, her baby didn’t really do anything. Just perhaps delayed the trial. It was her million dollars lawyers, paid by her stupid husband that helped cut off a few years from her sentence. And the dumb jury, made up of rich, out of touch San Jose elitist that found her not guilty of endangering patients, but not defrauding rich losers who couldn’t do their due diligence
When they say there is no “White Privilege”, she lied to cancer patients & others delaying their real diagnosis & care. Meanwhile Black & Brown men & women who sold marijuana are still sitting in prison. Disgusting. 👺
But white men and women are also in prison for selling marijuana. Also she is going to prison too, so what are you talking about?
@@GoldenHairAngel I don’t need to teach you what you already know. NOT ONE person should be in prison for selling marijuana when White men are making millions selling it from Colorado - California.
@@GoldenHairAngel She was sentenced for being a Thief & a Liar and should be in jail already, not doing useless interviews & having more time with her family. She wasn’t thinking about family when the millions were rolling in at sick peoples expense. 👏🏾👏🏾
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After seeing more of this story, I realized that she probably had the kid specifically to generate sympathy so that the judge and the public wouldn't come down so hard on her. Makes me worry about that kid who's being used as a prop and is likely to grow up trapped in a cycle of narcissistic abuse.
Oh she ABSOLUTELY got pregnant to put off jail time. Then got pregnant again. It wasn't a coincidence that it happened when it did. She's using the kids to manipulate people for herself.
She's a sociopath.
I would demand a DNA test. Maybe the baby's been kidnapped.
@@RR-ds4sd If she was breastfeeding the baby as the article states, that means she was pregnant, because otherwise she wouldn't be lactating, so I'm pretty sure it was her kid.
@Echo she's a smart thug, opportunist who preys on big $.
So, she's crazy like a fox!
It’s just classism. She’s one of them. So she’s misunderstood instead of the obvious criminal she is.
Maybe so.
Thanks, TYT, for calling out the BS every damn day. This was a particularly egregious example.
I hate to bring this factor in. But I will. She is a “white privileged woman” and fits the image of societal innocence. She fits the bill of the right wing media that NYT uses for their agenda.
Bingo
And that is exactly what Holmes used to her advantage to con the world and get a lesser jail sentence. She is GUILTY and was COMPLICIT. Clearly Elizabeth is still fraudulent and has learned nothing from being convicted of her crimes.
I don't know. I don't feel 11years and
900 million restitution a lighter sentence. I know I probably wouldn't last 11years. Especially if I was used to that lifestyle.
@@jackkanoff6265 It's been over a year and she's still not in prison. That's a special kind of privilege that most convicted felons wouldn't get.
@@UkeCan1
She was sentenced in November.
Normal people think she should have started her sentence. Unfortunately, we don't get to dictate the appeals process. Every one of us has the same rights on appeal. It's very rare we have the money it takes. (Bail, high priced lawyers)
Why does a fraudster get to keep her money? Do we have any laws in this country?
a fair question
Yes but only for the poor and working class. The amount of rich people and politicians never brought to justice is huge, it’s one law for the hardworking and no laws for the well off and privileged. She should be stripped of every penny and start at the bottom. Instead some are already starting to rehabilitate her image and character. Immoral, unfair and disgusting. T
Only for us regular folks certainly not the wealthy.
A judge has just made a ruling that she has to go back to prison while she appeals, she cannot remain out. The financial ruling has also just confirmed she must begin the payments now. T
Her product caused harm to patients that used her invention. That is unforgivable. I hope she spends a LOT of time in prison. Also, the writer kept talking about her children. Two children I believe she had while she was being investigated in order to get sympathy from the court. I don't believe she necessarily had those kids because she wanted them. She had them in hopes of a shorter prison sentence.
She got pregnant so that she had a card to play in court. She is a despicable human being and I feel so bad for her kid or kids. She's a broken liar and needs to suffer the consequences for her actions.
Indeed... she's doing the old hiding behind family and children shtick.
She is despicable to use her children to dodge her well earned prison sentence.
Elizabeth Holmes is a menace to society. She's a narcissist. Of course she is charming, convincing, etc. That is what makes her such a good con artist.
Holmes likely paid for this piece, when she should be stripped of ALL her resources. Her children are in danger as they are clearly being used as human shields.
Good thing the judge saw behind Elizabeth/Liz’s scam and rejected her request to stay out of prison because “Liz” has a baby. The NYT is disgusting. They need to retract this piece and apologize to the readers.
Or leave the article, and publish a counter piece from Cenk and Ana! That would be entertaining, and I would buy 2 copies of that edition. But the NYT would never let that happen.
The only reason she had those kids was to garner sympathy and delay her prison sentence. She still has not served one night in jail.
Except for capital crimes we all have those same rights on appeal. She still has an 11 year 900 million restitution hanging over her head.
Yes, tyt didn’t even address this. I don’t think they’re very familiar with this story lol
The main thing that infuriates me is why does she get to stroll through a zoo and have a baby when many other women aren't afforded that respect? She'll be fine through life. But lower class women involved in far more minor crimes struggle through life and i don't see NYT jumping to interview and humanize any of them. But do please tell me how we should applaud 'Liz'. Poor girly was just trying to be a girl boss, guys!
This!!!
Because Holmes came from an upper class family, of course the NYT is in the tank for her. Well spoken white girl, sincere, etc. Of their people.
The fact that she STILL has people duped insane to me.
She sounds qualified to run for Congress as a Republican candidate!
@@mooreandless wanna bet that's where this is going?
She still more believable than Drumph. And almost 48% of the country still believes him enough to prolly vote for him.
After that, this almost seems sane. I could see why people would really WANT to believe her.
I see no reason why anyone would even want to believe Trump. Even his promises are horrible.
Where is that money now? Hahaha, who cares. Some pockets are full.
The fact that she still has money is insane to me!
This is literally textbook sociopath. Please forget about how I robbed and cheated you. Look at how charming and approachable I am now.
I was in Delhi, walking around the tourist area when a man came up to me and said "Sir, you have sh!t on your shoe." I looked down and sure enough, there was a freshly deposited, gleaming dollop of cow dung on top of my shoe. He then offered to clean it off for 20 Rupees. "Liz" Holmes obviously knows all the scams. She probably deposited the dog drool on the reporter's shoe before offering to clean it up. What a disgrace!
Why isn’t she in prison? People give her to much credit she’s not as smart as the media wants to portray her!! Lock that crook up!!
She has manage to post pone with an appeal but she is already on the hook for a little over a eleven years.
Aside from capital crimes, every American has the same rights on appeal.
In depth analysis from the NYT 'Bad person is actually human', 'Convicted con artist is charming'....how disappointing 😩
Looks like the NYT reporter was given an exclusive visit inside "Liz's" Edison machine and typically came out with a fake result. The irony of it is bitingly hilarious if it wasn't stomach turning in its grotesqueness!
Liz was sentenced to 11 years and 3 months. See lost her bid to remain free while she appealed her conviction and was scheduled to report to prison on April 27th. Her surrender date was automatically delayed until the 9th Circuit rules on her appeal.
The fact that she changed her voice lowering it as part of her fraud is just 🤯
This was classic Ana and Cenk… this was informative, hilarious, and truthful! The cynicism and sarcasm is amazing… 👏🏻 That’s what you need when reporting on these ridiculous situations…
I enjoyed this one. Made me chuckle. Thanks
It wasn’t informative. They missed a couple pretty big details, one being that she’s really trying to avoid a prison sentence and the other that the editor basically told the journalist that she’s an idiot.
It DID cause harm to people, not "might have". Many died or suffered due to fraudulent lab results being produced by Theranos.
Problem is, the prosecution didn't really care about people suffering and dying beause of her lies.
They only really went after her for embarrassing rich and power people. It's not even that they lost money, but the very public embarrassment that she caused to them.
LOL we both said, "Oh shut up" at the exact same time. And while we're at it, let's stop saying things like "she developed." She had the idea to make a machine that would "do it all." And that's it. Every professional she went to about the idea told her that it could not be done, but she decided she knew better than them and reached out to investors anyway. The plain truth is that if such a machine were possible, it would have been developed already by a company with way more resources, opportunity, and most importantly, experience in that industry.
All of those machines require a certain amount of space and room to properly operate and you just can't "make them smaller." That's why everyone isn't just enriching uranium at home. The equipment required to produce the force necessary is bound by the laws of physics. Regardless of what first name she uses, Holmes thought she was smarter than the laws of physics and regardless if the intent was malicious or not, she defrauded people based on that premise.
In science people should always push and question, but no one ever bothers to point out that Holmes took a bunch of money from people for questions other qualified people had been looking the answers to for longer than she's been alive. If those machines could be made smaller and more efficient, it would have been done already. It will get done when it's possible and it's going to be one of already the major players who have been working for generations to improve medical equipment as technology becomes available.
The larger the sample, the more accurate the results. Holms wasn't even dumb enough to launch a Lotus S1 into space.
The NYT piece should say: I realized I was writing about a sociopath who not only could not stop herself from lying, but she also took great pleasure from it. She was the woman who lied about her business skills and technical expertise, now she is the woman who is trying to repair her image to avoid a lengthy prison sentence.
Just throw her in prison already.
With Trump in the same cell…., !
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jaaron2834 You think women should be housed with male sexual abusers?
@@SamS-uv2qlxactly. The idea would be to punish Donald Trump, not reward him. Smh.
The larger the fraud, the less the punishment. Heros of Amerika.
And the name Liz should fit her perfectly in prison!
It's not just that she stole money. She also posed a direct health risk to the public. She put out medical technology on a massive scale that people relied on.
Don’t forget she was condemned only for defrauding the rich guys not for putting life of people in danger.
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Even "The Verge" isn't strong enough in its language. Let's be clear, Holmes didn't start out with a dream and overreach. She _set out_ to be a fraudster. She purposefully chose never to understand the biochemistry behind blood testing. She was directly offered lessons and declined. Instead, the entirety of her effort went into being more convincing. Body language, kino, vocal inflection, dressing, _everything._ She _wanted_ to hurt people, because she didn't care about their pain. Only their money.
It's true, everybody gets to live their life. "Liz" Holmes can move on... _far away from anybody else's money._
Well said.
The NYT story about Holmes also illustrates how far the NYT, once considered a bastion of hard hitting journalism, has fallen.
A billionaire who says they believe in human rights is the only red flag you need.
Didn’t Elon Musk once say that?
@@johnjohnson3709 Is he human?
@@slackerman9758 Probably not. Have you compared his look to the typical look of an alien from Uranus?
Next on NYT....
"Mother's Day Special: Normie Bates, The Misunderstood Taxidermist"
There is no Liz, there is no Elizabeth. That is George Santos in a wig. Don't be fooled.
☠️☠️
😂😂😂
Ted Bundy wanted you to forget Ted, and just remember Teddy instead.
She’s scum but she’s not Ted Bundy, but I get what you’re saying
With hair so blonde, she couldn't possibly hurt anyone.
I was laughing my ass off when Cenk was listing all the things NYT doesn’t do and Ana was just off screen going “Nope, NOPE, No” 🤣
Excellent. Very fun to watch you eviscerate Holmes and the Times
That voice she affected really was hilarious
And Charlie Manson was a captivating musician...
That's the whole thing about it, spot on. Charles Mansion did have some musical talent but obviosly extremely creepy, violent, manipulative, and dangerous.
She needs to be put in Prison... She's a Criminal and absolutely nothing was captivating about her taking funding for a product that didn't work was totally dishonest and manipulative...
Thst fake deep voice kills me 😂
The "New York Times" was, for most of my adult life, my paper of record. If I subscribed to nothing else, as long as I read the NYT I felt like I was getting a well-rounded daily dose of information and insight. Ugh, I'm so embarrassed for them about this piece, it makes my stomach hurt. Like, this puff piece might have found a better outlet in something like online fan fiction.
The New York Times should have to list this as a sponsored ad by Elizabeth's parents and lawyers.
I think that Holmes should be in prison and nothing else. 😂😂
You know, i heard Adolf Hitler could paint a little. Maybe the NY Times can do a puff piece on his image.
This story is also a reflection of American values. Americans value wealth, status, and achieving the American dream so much, that how it's achieved doesn't matter much.
She had the babies to get out of being incarcerated.
and guess what, she'll leverage her kid to get an early release also. It's kinda hilarious how gullible people are. She's a career criminal and will always be. She's a sociopath and always will be.
she did win the George Santos award for marketing
A fact that Santos just created, his mom saved Liz from the WTC on 9/11! Amazing!
Every defense lawyer in America has now burned the name Amy Chozick into memory. Her next article , "Jeffrey Dalmer, cannibalistic psychopath or misunderstood culinary genius?"
Maybe the question should’ve been “you knew you were facing significant jail time, why did you decide to get pregnant twice when you knew you weren’t going to be in those kids life for a substantial amount of time?”
Maybe that would’ve been too mean
Next they'll do a glowing piece on George Santos.
They surely did from Musk in the past, so you are right. Santos probably is a nice human beeing, because he wanted to feed his even nonexistent fish once.
Normalizing Trump must have gotten boring
FYI she was born an elite. Her dad was a VP at Enron
That should've been a RED FLAG!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂
defrauding is not a bug of capitalism, it is the feature
Comment of the morning!
I can’t wait till this reporter interviews the Purdue family , she will just love the OxyContin samples in candy dishes everywhere. On the mantel, on the sofa table, on the end table, the sofa, the coffee table,… they even had one on the floor. They were absolutely mesmerizing. I found myself nearly catatonic with awe at their kindness
As sad as the opiate crisis is, and as criminal the Purdue Pharma, your description of the candy dishes everywhere brings a little comic relief. It reminds me of my GF always has a candy dish of M&Ms. I'm now hooked on M&Ms. I can imagine Oxys.
@@jackkanoff6265 the opiate crisis is sad and absolutely criminal. I wish I could say I can't believe .... I but I know a little life is valued by our country. I do hope that my silliness is not interpreted as an aggression toward
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I absolutely love silly. Look at me. Do I look like I take myself serious.
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I re-read my response. As per my nature I said I appreciate you injecting humor as I hoped I would've.
Good mother? Arguably Holmes had children as a ploy to get out of or at least shorten or delay a predictably lengthy prison sentence. But we knew her morals were crap, right?
Not only did she defraud people she actually put people's life in danger.
She is a convicted con-person. So how does the writer even know "Liz" is truly her? It could just be another con.
It absolutely is
That deep ass voice is a trip! Even turned Bill Clinton off!!😂😂😂😂😂
It's not unusual for psychopaths to be charming. It's how they lure victims. It's not some redeeming quality.
I imagine the writer of that article periodically took breaks from writing to sniff their own farts out of a wine glass. Posh. Quite posh.
😊😅😅😅. Exactly 💯
Imagine if she was black what the headline would be
Let's be real, this article would have never been written about her except she's a young pretty blonde white woman.
"She sounds so lovely. I can't wait to give her money." 😂😂😂
Was Amy expecting a Bond villain, twirling a fake moustache and stroking a hairless cat?
She popped out twi kids to keep her self out of long-term prison
the writter of New York Times needs to take off the rose colored glasses
Shameful journalism by the NYT
She's just so wholesome that she spit shined my shoes using her dogs slobber! And after I somehow lose my wallet, she was kind enough to return it after only taking all my money and using my credit card only a few dozen times.
The article is trying to convince you that there’s a duality, trying to distance her from her own self. It’s utter bullshit.
It's not just the fraud. She was Hanibal Lector scary and vicious to the employees that questioned the effectiveness and pushed for being honest with the public.
Seriously?!? She threatened to murder them and then eat their brains?!?!
Damn, I think I somehow missed that part.
The NY times has been more than questionable in the past several years.
Elizabeth Holmes is a genius.
The left looks bad trying to put her down
Most narcissists are good at being charming when it works for them
Sounds like Liz was breast feeding the reporter and wrote the story
If it’s any consolation, the NYT comment section was filled with readers who disagreed with the author’s premise. EH is obviously a fraud and the NYT needs to have better discretion in their choice of what to print. Either that, or they could change their tagline to, “All the news that’s fit to print…and some that isn’t.”
Absolutely agree. Not one positive comment on the comment section. Proof right there.
Amy Chozick completely embarrassed herself as a journalist. I've never read anything so ridiculous. It's like she never heard or knew exactly who and what Elizabeth Holmes did
Ted Bundy was charismatic too it doesn’t make you a good person. This is absurd…
She hired a PR firm.
Holmes is a terrible person she even drove one of her employees to suicide
Is that the guy who took too many aspirin and a few beers?
@@jackkanoff6265 it was one of her scientists
I am more offended by Elizabeth Holmes' voice. What the heck is that sound?
Yeah it's frickin ridiculous 🙄
Girl Boss
She defrauded Henry Kissinger, that is NOT a crime.
I can almost bet that was a main reason “it” was charged and convicted!!!
Its the overwhelming privledge for me. Imagine her skin was a few shades darker. Do you think she would be free until she finishes raising her kid...which she had just for that purpose
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There's no way this Times piece gets written if Holmes were anyone but a photogenic blonde female.
She still not in prison? 😂😂
I’m not even a journalist & I can think of severally questions off the top of my head that would have been better than this NYTimes article:
1) How do you think your actions have contributed to the situations that has resulted with Theranos and your trial?
2) Do you believe that you are guilty or innocent of fraud?
3) Why do you think a jury has found you guilty of fraud?
4) If you could go back in time, what decision would you change or what actions would you have done differently?
5) Your legacy, as it stands, has created a significant doubt about your character. Is there any opportunity for redemption?
6) Your father was an executive of Enron, & the downfall of Theranos has a reputation that is arguably just as comparable. What do you say to criticisms that you were never intending to create a product that worked? Why should we believe you didn’t intend to commit fraud?
1) I...I...I relied too much on my team and Sunny Balwani. I trusted them too much. 👁👁
2) If I am guilty, I am guilty of trying to do too many things at once and relied too much on my lab team. I am devastated that I put too much of my judgment on them. 🍼👶
3) Behind every glass ceiling, there is an iron lady. And some people are afraid of that.
4) I would've stop relying on so much on my team.👁👁
5) If I were given enough time, my legacy of changing healthcare would've been realized. I still want to contribute innovations to the healthcare industry. What higher purpose is there?👁👁
6) When someone invented something so world changing, there should be questions and criticism. That shows that you've done something that's transformative. 🍼👶
@@PungiFungi 7) Follow up about your father. Do you think any of the fraud he committed at Enron had influenced your ethics or morals when working at Theranos?
@@allsaints1951 7) I once wrote a letter to my father on how I want to discover something mankind had not discovered yet, that to invent something they thought was impossible. He had always encouraged me to change the world. (super 👁👁)
Brilliant questions!
@@PungiFungi (Please don’t break character)
8) Were the potentially dangerous medical implications of patients who received inaccurate diagnosis due to Theranos’ devices a concern for you? Or were you prioritizing the illusion of a successful product being available on the market over the efficacy of the product?
We have gone so far past the looking glass that we've lapped ourselves and jumped the shark at the same time.