I wondered about that as well. I am not sure I would want to know. Did they have an obligation to track her down and tell her, or were they just looking for a witness to secure their case against the officer?
I suspect it’s less about the photo and more about the power of having those photos of a person he knows/met. Which is worse, if true, because that’s a mindset you find with sexual predators
@@admiraladama5877 Exactly. There's a difference between "saw some attractive rando doing XYZ" and, "saw this specific person who would refuse to let me see such things but I saw them anyway".
It's actually probably a minimum required award to get into the specific court circuit that their lawyer thinks will give them the best chance to win. "Circuit" may be the wrong word. Anyway, other lawyer TH-camrs occassionally mention that the initial filing starts with a lower "at least $X" just to get it to the court level they want. The actual award being sought may be much higher
Narcissists will always gaslight you and keep telling you about their heroism. They will turn an innocent man into a "criminal" just to use them in their narrative to try to convince you how much you need them. Even if it takes violating that man's constitutional rights. The police department press releases abd constant COPaganda from the media seeks to do the sane thing. Every political elite benefiting from the status quouo does the same. That includes judges, lawyers, prosecutors and (generally) the wealthy.
Fairly strong guess that this cop (hopefully former cop) had a tendency of stopping pretty ladies and taking their phones, and that's how the FBI eventually got involved
Cops aren't even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs. 🙄 The fact that people refuse to accept that 99% of cops and military are never in any real danger is annoying.
I hope you're right, but it's more likely he'll get a slap on the wrist & transferred to a different department. Problematic cops get shuffled around like problematic priests.
Nor at all. I know of a girl who bribed an officer in his back seat with all sorts of favors. She got off without a single citation. Kentucky for anyone wondering.
tail light out is a bs excuse police in Missouri use to pull over women. its happened several times to my wife and daughter but when they got home i checked and the lights were working just fine.
It's a bs excuse to pull over everyone. I'm a dude, and I've been pulled over for both tail lights and "license plate lights out" countless times. Interestingly, if you say "I just changed those last week, do you mind showing me where they're out?" the officer tends to get really mad lol
Escalate it as much as possible within the law. File a complaint with the department. File a criminal complaint with the county. Call the US attorney and file a federal civil rights criminal complaint.
@@Kivlor It behooves me to tell a positive story about a cop and the "light out" excuse. Coming back into my town after travelling, an officer did stop me and said my license light was out. I told him my dash did not indicate any lights being out and from his view through my window, he saw no indicators of lights being out. So, instead of a ticket, he gave me a written warning telling me to get the car checked, because he was unable to see my license even walking up to the car, and he said to "show this warning to anyone who pulls you over on your way home tonight, so they don't give you another citation". Turns out, my light was not out, but got blocked by leaf debris that had washed or blown in from the storm that had come through. I scraped the leaves out, and it was as bright as ever.
I guess you should check the lights on your vehicle occasionally. I see vehicles with lights out all the time. It’s seen as “trivial”, yet not so trivial that the average lazy car owner can keep it maintained. Good way to avoid getting stopped, I guess.🤷🏻♂️
@@colinwallace5286 That would be the solution if the light were actually out. This is about cops lying. I have personally been stopped in this way and was issued a fraudulent citation. I regret not escalating it as described.
Never, ever turn your phone over to the police. Always encrypt your phone. Never use biometrics. Always use a strong password. Do not use cloud backup services that you cannot control, meaning do not use iCloud.
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusketwrong wrong wrong you should always use biometrics and you should turn them off if you suspect you’re in danger of having your phone taken. All you have to do is press your power button 5 times to disable biometrics and require your passcode. It’s not that hard.
@@rockyroad7345Nude photos are not the only thing on your phone police can use to manipulate you or hem you up. Just about ANYTHING they find can be used to concoct the narrative they wish to justify whatever it is they want to do to you.
The law enforcement in this country has no idea what's investigating them and what is being created to combat them legally in the beautiful system they created and are about to thrown into
If it requires handing my phone over, I don't want it. I'm hoping the FBI found her via metadata rather than because they have a huge facial-recognition database.
I mean, they definitely have access to your state ID, which can be scanned in facial recognition. And if you have more than two or three state ID photos, they've definitely got a good sampling.
@@unbreakable7633 it’s hard to tell people from exile. Saddest part is he let a bombshell drop of massive constitutional rights violations that should have massively angered every citizen and only about 0.4% of the population cared.
Back in the day. This is what made Polaroid cameras so popular. The picture quality wasn't that good but you kept possession of the photos so unwanted eyes at the photo store would never see them.
This is one of the reasons that using paper proof of insurance and drivers license should be the only way to prove them. If you have to unlock your digital device and hand it to an officer, then they can use that as 'consent to search'
Right? It was annoying when they stopped mailing insurance cards, but ah okay well I’ll just print one. These days it’s been probably 3 years since I’ve had a device that’s even compatible with the ancient printer I have and the insurance cards expire every 6 months, it gets annoying to remember to print it. I was pulled over about 2 months ago for the first time in 15 years and that was my first thought “crap I do NOT want to show this guy my unlocked phone” even though it’d be way more boring this this lady’s. Oddly enough he had zero interest in my insurance card or even my paper registration, I asked and he said “I have it all already”. When he printed the ticket he did in fact have all of my information. I was also 1,000+ miles from my state of registration and license, so there must be some sort of widespread shared database at this point. Small town cop too, not a Trooper or large municipality…
Sadly American's have become complacent cowards who think complaining about government tyranny and Corruption will actually stop the Tyranny and Corruption lmao
They do set the bar pretty low. A study said that if police departments followed their psyc evals, that they would destroy 75% of the applications. ‘Nuff said.
Coincidentally, the bully in high school who stole my gloves with his gang backing him up and a vicious smirk on his face, went on to become a deputy sheriff. Last I knew of him he was making quite a reputation among the female community college students as a creepy, leering, harasser. Obviously, not all cops.. but there seems to a heck of an attraction of those types of people to that type of job
If he has pictures of others in his phone that he victimized the same way, it's very easy for them to track them all down. His pictures will have a timestamp and most likely a gps location recorded in the pictures data he took. Simply match that up to who he had stopped at those times - now you have dash cam footage, timestamped vehicle stops, body camera footage.. etc. If there were any other photos in his phone of the same thing he did to others, they'll find them and tack on additional charges.
I hear virtually all politicians say the “few bad apples” phrase and yet I say there only a “few good apples” at best. The conduct of these police officers should not surprise anyone.
The phrase is "a few good apples spoil the bunch" on account of the gas they release as they rot, causing them all to rot faster. People use the phrase the exact opposite way than it's intended lol
Yeah, you really have to wonder why any officer would feel comfortable risking their career and reputation for something like this. Is it because there is a culture of zero accountability...or is he just an idiot?
@@JebusHypocristosX I think it should come from the individual police officers insurance. Doctors have to get insured for malpractice, I bet if we compare lawsuits against police vs doctors police are sued more often.
@@JebusHypocristosX I guess I am a bit dubious as to the whole sue the pension deal. No one sues someone with expectation of it coming out of their 401k retirement. Usual us lowly minions have a judgement issued against us that is paid directly or through wage garnishment now.
@@Anonsense-w5g there has been such cases, illegal searches, already covered, stealing from citizens, already covered. Illegal searches and stealing from citizens, already covered.
@@Anonsense-w5g Think an exception was written in recently that if the act is so egregious that an officer should have known their actions were illegal.
If your operating a motor vehicle, you are required to provide a valid driver's license, registration, and insurance if the cop asks. You don't have to answer questions, but you DO have to provide those three things, it's not voluntary, you agreed to it when you got your driver's license. But I agree with others, give them the paper version.
It appears very apparent, and appropriate, that the photo was needed by the cop to deeply investigate the taillight problem. She should be happy the cop didn't civil assest forfeiture her entire picture collection.
$25K is probably the most undersized damages I've seen anyone sue for. The violation of privacy, abuse of power, and damage to respect for this town's LEOs is egregious.
Many years ago, my little brother worked at the Fotomat booth the ones in the middle of the mall parking lot. It was a boring job at times so he would look at the photos. I would st by to bs with him and he would show me some pictures of cool cars. Every now and then he would find some pics of some hot girls, he was showing me some one day of some girls and I told him that's not a girl, after that he never looked again it was such a shock to him.
Had my fishing license on phone because I just bought it away from a printer. A DNR officer happened to be checking licenses and I brought mine up on phone and handed it to him, he said no you hold it so I can see it. This was Michigan 👍
Simple trace back on the photo with the timestamp. Almost all officers call in all vehicle stops to their dispatch. They'll give tag, description, and location before ever contacting the driver. That info is recorded in the department computer system. Failing that, if the officer runs a tag or DL either thru their dispatch or on the in-car MDT, that inquiry is also timestamped and retained in the department computers. If the FBI is investigating something, all those records will be examined.
Some possible ways they found here: 1. He did at least log an entry during the stop 2. It was recent enough that there was footage from the cars cam 3. More creepy, he also took a photo of her drivers license with her name & address as part of a trophy to go along with the photos
My insurance company, bank, and others keep asking me to switch to 'paperless'. They like to cite all kinds of benefits that mostly benefit themselves. This story is the reason I refuse to go paperless. I wonder what else that cop was stealing off people's phones? Bank and credit card numbers, passwords ... That few minutes he had the phone is plenty of time to offload every bit of data it contained onto a memory stick in order to sift through it later at his leisure.
" SHARED WITH OTHER PEOPLE " ... I WONDER HOW MANY OF THOSE OTHER PEOPLE ARE LICENSED PEACE OFFICERS OR POLICE OFFICERS? SOUNDS LIKE THAT DEPARTMENT HAS AN ISSUE OF TAKING PEOPLE'S PHONES AND THEN PICTURES OFF OF THEM AND SHOWING THEM AROUND TO THEIR BUDDIES. OTHER PEOPLE. I LOVE HOW THEY JUST IGNORE THE FACT THAT IT'S MOST LIKELY OTHER OFFICERS
Which ones scarier to consider from the cop, his lack of self-control over his basic drives or his willingness to violate his oaths and peoples rights?
Law enforcement maintained a great public image until cellular phones, smart phones, body cameras and social media gave the public the ability to document and share what really happens. Think back to the Rodney King beating. Those officers were all very comfortable in what they were doing. That was not the first time. Think of how often police reports don't match the video. In the history of policing, up until recently nobody would question the integrity of an officer. If it was in the report courts and juries considered it fact. The abuse on the streets is finally getting attention and accountability. The next step is the jails and prisons. These power hungry psychopaths have limited supervision due to staffing shortages and are surrounded by people who society ignores. I'm sure the abuse is rampant.
Yes and no. When I was a teenager (this is Vietnam era) in a very small, hick town we had mostly very good officers. They were your neighbors. Or your parents' former classmates. This was a small town where people all knew each other. And their parents knew each other. We had teachers that taught 3 generations of families. People married the boy or girl next door and stayed put. The chief of police lived around the corner and played golf with my Dad. If you got pulled over and it was obvious you'd been drinking you were told to park it and walk home. Unless you were female - then you'd get a ride. Because young lady walking by herself middle of the night - dangerous. As long as you were polite and respectful you got treated polite and respectful. If a cop went bad - and it happened - they were usually "encouraged" to retire early. All charges in whatever case were dropped. Never even went to court. We had one cop - we called him "John Law" because he was so rigid - after a couple decades trying to catch youngsters smoking weed (we would just disappear into the woods - we hung out in the woods and knew all the trails even with no moon) he got caught planting pot on some kids. They were kids who didn't indulge. He had a major freak out and a nervous breakdown. He was "retired" and all charges were dropped. That was then. Over the years I've seen my little town deteriorate so badly it's scary. The first time I watched a cop lie in court I was shocked. Now we have these young, smarta** thugs who address seniors by their first name. No "miss", "ma'am", "mister", or "sir". I didn't survive all these years to have some punk whose daddy wasn't even born when I was running around town address me by my given name. I EARNED the right to be called Ma'am, or Mrs. and I'll be damned if I tolerate being addressed any other way by some brat young enough to be my grandson. Depending on how old you are, while there were always some bad apples, in general officers took their oaths much more seriously - and this is only my experience, keep in mind. I have definitely seen things get worse over the years. I will say this - at least in my area there are still some decent young men who are officers. One helped me change a fuse in my car at night as I was having trouble seeing. When my car finally died about a month ago 3 different officers in 2 local towns drove me because they saw me walking after dark. One officer even called his supervisor to get permission to cross into another town. NOT ONE asked for ID. They were all concerned for my safety walking by the highway (which really isn't much of a highway - it's only 2 lanes in some spots) after dark. When I told them my car broke down they all said hop in I'll drive you. When I questioned one he told me it was his job to SERVE the public. Polite, respectful, and doing their jobs. Everything an officer should be! Kind of gives you hope! I don't think we were brought up on lies - I think there have been too many changes that attract the wrong type of person to the job. And then keeps them in the job by not punishing them severely when they do wrong. Police officers should be held to a higher standard - and if they go bad they should suffer twice the punishment. I would love to see the days when "police officer" meant an exemplary, honorable gentleman, return. My best friend's father was an officer - he was a good man and a good officer. Bad apples need to become the exception, not the norm. And good cops need to stand up when bad cops do bad things. And one more thing - I'm sorry girls but I have yet to see ONE of you behave decently. You're worse than the boys! And I'm female! If you girls are becoming officers to prove something - please go home and learn how to behave like a LADY. We don't need you out there trying to show how you're just as tough as the bad boys. We don't need either the bad boys or you. Go back to desk jobs. Or meter maids. Nothing is quite as distasteful as watching some of these young lady officers act like Imelda Marcos, harassing the peasantry for some perceived crime, like "you were at the gas station an abnormal amount of time". Seriously! You prove every day how unsuited you are to work as an LEO!
"Can you store your licence in your bank app so we can take a looksee?" There was no intention to help people secure their identity. It's a warrantless access.
We had one of those in my area back in the 80s. I was immune due to 2 things: I was a bartender in a bar he liked and my Grandparents were HIGHLY respected in that town. And yes, I dropped my Grandpa's name to get out of tickets for "stuff I didn't feel like doing" - as in having my car overdue for inspection. Because I was a bit of a brat back then. This "officer" would hang out by the clubs and if he saw a pretty young lady leave he would follow her, pull her over and offer her a choice. Get a DWI or give it up. The girls were terrified they might cross his path. He actually did pull me over one night, but it was just to ask why I wasn't working (I think I had mid terms the next day and was headed to a classmates to cram) and who WAS working. He liked to stop in at closing (3AM here) and sit for a couple hours. While we waited. And waited. And waited - we just worked all night and wanted to go HOME! This was the place everyone stopped at the end of the night - so from 11PM to 2:45 they were 3 deep at the bar with 3 bartenders running our tails off and no clean glassware so we had to do that by hand. No time to put it through the machines. We were TIRED! But we really didn't have a choice. Some nights my boss used to turn off almost all the lights and we would clean up in near darkness trying to avoid having him stop by to "visit". Jerk was completely clueless. He thought we WANTED to hang out with him - as if it were some great privilege. Most of us just wanted to go home with our respective boyfriend/girlfriend and pass out from sheer exhaustion. That jerk literally held us captive until the sun came up many nights. What an a**hole.
It's NOT "beyond" thousands... if not MILLIONS. That why the story is the officer stealing the photo and not anything else. There are FAR more people who can relate to the victim. Plus... if the cop can steal that from your phone, they can snoop and steal anything else too. THAT (I belive) is what captivates most of us to the story.
@@Essence1123 Then don’t whine and try to sue when your photos get on the internet. Going through life is hard. Going through life as an idiot is really hard. Enjoy your life.
@@bills6946but it's a way for married couples to flirt with each other, nothing wrong with that. If the pic does accidentally get on the Internet, oh well, who cares, they are married and have a right to see each other that way
Every organization that offers someone control or authority over a vulnerable group of people is a target for sadists. Sadists get very good at disguising themselves as caring and trusteorthy. They have to or they can't approach their victims.
Digital copies of documentation is a bad idea when dealing with the police. Only hand paper.plastic documents to a cop. If you use fingerprints or face to unlock your phone you should also "lockout" your phone if you are pulled over which disables the fingerprint sensor for one time. On Android long press the power button and select "Lockout" I'll let iPhone folks tell people what the process is for iPhones.
I was wondering the same thing Steve was. How did they trace the photo back to a lady from a traffic stop? That could have been from anybody. Crazy stuff.
There is a lot of "hidden"(not in plain sight) info on smart phone photos, if you know where to look, eg take a photo with your phone then view that photo and scroll down V
Possibly body cam had her likeness on it. And if he was being investigated, the date the photo was stolen would be on his device, making it easier to know which day of body cam footage to review.
One quote I have found to be true over the years comes from Medal of Honor recipient Col. Gregory "Pappy" Boyington, USMC (ret.), "Show me a hero, and I'll prove he's a bum." He said this as the final line of his autobiography. It’s the most true statement I've ever heard.
I agree that the cop needs to be prosecuted. That said, why would anyone not have a hard copy of their registration/insurance in their car, and then compound it by having nude pictures of herself on a phone she hands to someone else. Two people involved and one's a perv, while the other is just plain dumb.
According to news outlets he had many other photos (enlarged and printed) and shared them. It's a Class D felony. I wonder if he had other photos that would be of particular interest to the FBI and she just got included in the larger investigation?
I was thinking... He bragged to someone how he got a picture. They turned him in. FBI gets Time/Date stamp or EXIF info w/ GPS and pulls dashcam or bodycam of the date/time getting the tag number or a possible view of her driver's license. Just a thought.
That police officer is apparently sick and twisted. With all of the free pictures of naked women available, why would you need to steal from a stranger? Sounds like a case that would be worth well over $25K.
Date & time of the pic on his phone (and maybe location data) would be consistent with perhaps his radio call or log entry for a traffic stop, regardless of ticket or not, still get logged. Additionally, you know 1000% he ran her for history, driving record, address etc on his car computer so that would all be tracked to the second and match near precisely with the date/time stamp of his phone picture. Identifying her was literally a few more clicks on the FBI computer once they had the date/time stamp of the image from either this cops phone or maybe him being dumb enough to text that picture of a pic to another person who reported it. This guy doesn't sound smart enough to strip the meta & EXIF data off the image before sharing it. In the good old days a cop could look and see when, where, and what for you may have gotten prior tickets for on your license. Now the systems are so detailed they run you and it tells them all that plus the last time you were run, and by whom. They used to ask when your last ticket was and is your license clean.... now they ask that and most will ask the last time you got pulled over and whether you got a warning or a ticket because they already know if you burned your courtesy for being a good driver for xxx years or whatever and now you get a ticket, even if the warning was another place, officer, etc. Moral of the story, stick to paper copy documents in your car for traffic stops and accident reports AND keep your phone screen locked while driving. Don't touch the phone while driving and don't be fiddling with it once you get stopped. It's a new environment the world around us.
This needs to be prosecuted as a sex crime.
Yessir
absolutely, put that officer on the registry
This guy shouldn’t be allowed within 1000 feet of a school and be required to notify everyone in a 1 mile radius.
They will promote
It is but cops don't get charged
Of all the porn on the net he has to risk his job for a second hand photo?
He's got officer material written all over.
Officer is the lowest rank for police. You probably meant 'command'.
I agree, but thinking he’s risking his job is about unlikely as a politician going to jail. He'll probably be assigned to desk duty.
People's thirsts override their reason. That's what religion is based on dealing with.
Hell he is the new Republican Senator for sure
Actually wouldn't this be considered a first hand photo?
And cops wonder why no one trusts or respects them, anymore.
Exactly
They do not wonder. They were not bullied.
They are lifelong bullies
As a police officer I don’t wonder. Stuff like this makes me disappointed and sick.
The Supreme Court ruled the police have no duty to protect or serve citizens
I believe that there are a lot of bad cops as well as good cops. The problem is who is who.
I'm shocked the FBI connected the victim but am thankful they did. She had a right to know.
They had to if they were going to charge the officer with a crime. They needed her to tell them she did not give permission
I wondered about that as well. I am not sure I would want to know. Did they have an obligation to track her down and tell her, or were they just looking for a witness to secure their case against the officer?
@@azrobbins01 a witness but they also have to talk to her to see if she was a victim more than just taking a picture of a picture
@@crjcrj8443 I guess that true. They wouldn't know that he did not have her permission unless they asked her.
FBI could even trace the face in their data base, lots of stuff is collected "just in case".
There is an absolute OCEAN of free adult content on the internet. And this genius decides to do this? How thirsty can you get!
I suspect it’s less about the photo and more about the power of having those photos of a person he knows/met. Which is worse, if true, because that’s a mindset you find with sexual predators
@@admiraladama5877 BINGO!
Cops aren't smart.
@@admiraladama5877 Exactly. There's a difference between "saw some attractive rando doing XYZ" and, "saw this specific person who would refuse to let me see such things but I saw them anyway".
He's a creep. He's done this before. 😊
Only $25,000. Doesn’t seem like enough to me
Might be what a lawyer said they could get and that such a low amount would be settled quickly.
It's actually probably a minimum required award to get into the specific court circuit that their lawyer thinks will give them the best chance to win. "Circuit" may be the wrong word.
Anyway, other lawyer TH-camrs occassionally mention that the initial filing starts with a lower "at least $X" just to get it to the court level they want. The actual award being sought may be much higher
It's known as the jurisdictional amount. Under a certain amount it is dropped to a lower court, such as small claims, which has a cap on damages.
@@mathewfullerton8577 There we go, that's what I was referring to. Thanks for this!
Sounds like alot for a photo.
What's worse is these tyrants still have the audacity to call themselves the good guys.
Narcissists will always gaslight you and keep telling you about their heroism. They will turn an innocent man into a "criminal" just to use them in their narrative to try to convince you how much you need them. Even if it takes violating that man's constitutional rights.
The police department press releases abd constant COPaganda from the media seeks to do the sane thing. Every political elite benefiting from the status quouo does the same. That includes judges, lawyers, prosecutors and (generally) the wealthy.
They're not. Civil asset forfieture has turned them all into armed robbers.
Most cops are worse than the "criminals" they arrest.
Fairly strong guess that this cop (hopefully former cop) had a tendency of stopping pretty ladies and taking their phones, and that's how the FBI eventually got involved
most of the department I would guess if he was sharing them with them.
Define “pretty” but likely he likely had a disproportionate number of stops of women.
Trading pictures like pokemon cards. So quick to abuse their power
Well former at that dept, but no doubt moved on to a different department.
Self proclaimed heroes never cease to amaze me.
Cops aren't even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs. 🙄 The fact that people refuse to accept that 99% of cops and military are never in any real danger is annoying.
Tell your mom hi
@@christoner2666 Go polish your badge and call yourself a hero.
@@steveladner4346 you're so cool
@christoner2666 guys like you need hrt to match the levels of a typical office worker
He should be banned from law enforcement forever and jailed on a felony so he can never carry again.
He should be charged as a sex offender.
@@july8xxyou'll have to get a new law passed to do that.
I hope you're right, but it's more likely he'll get a slap on the wrist & transferred to a different department. Problematic cops get shuffled around like problematic priests.
Well if the cop is properly charged and convicted of a sex crime - said cop won’t be able work in enforcement again.
@@SuperS05yup.. Let's keep VOTING then BEG your masters for CHANGE.. 😂😂😂
Why does this surprises anyone
Same reason as to why you asked this question
It doesn’t
Nor at all. I know of a girl who bribed an officer in his back seat with all sorts of favors. She got off without a single citation. Kentucky for anyone wondering.
@@hugoh.9694 at least the cop wasn't suffering from premature traffic citation
Because it was actually investigated.
So a cop being a degenerate? Wow I’m so surprised…..😂
I AM SHOCKED! SHOCKED, I SAY!
@@Uranswer-yu5kp Apparently, he wasn’t acting.
@@bills6946 and you’re right messed that up. 😂💪
in other news, the sky is blue.
tail light out is a bs excuse police in Missouri use to pull over women. its happened several times to my wife and daughter but when they got home i checked and the lights were working just fine.
It's a bs excuse to pull over everyone. I'm a dude, and I've been pulled over for both tail lights and "license plate lights out" countless times. Interestingly, if you say "I just changed those last week, do you mind showing me where they're out?" the officer tends to get really mad lol
Escalate it as much as possible within the law. File a complaint with the department. File a criminal complaint with the county. Call the US attorney and file a federal civil rights criminal complaint.
@@Kivlor It behooves me to tell a positive story about a cop and the "light out" excuse. Coming back into my town after travelling, an officer did stop me and said my license light was out. I told him my dash did not indicate any lights being out and from his view through my window, he saw no indicators of lights being out. So, instead of a ticket, he gave me a written warning telling me to get the car checked, because he was unable to see my license even walking up to the car, and he said to "show this warning to anyone who pulls you over on your way home tonight, so they don't give you another citation". Turns out, my light was not out, but got blocked by leaf debris that had washed or blown in from the storm that had come through. I scraped the leaves out, and it was as bright as ever.
I guess you should check the lights on your vehicle occasionally. I see vehicles with lights out all the time. It’s seen as “trivial”, yet not so trivial that the average lazy car owner can keep it maintained. Good way to avoid getting stopped, I guess.🤷🏻♂️
@@colinwallace5286 That would be the solution if the light were actually out. This is about cops lying. I have personally been stopped in this way and was issued a fraudulent citation. I regret not escalating it as described.
NEVER hand your phone to anyone in government.
That's easy to say but when they show up with a gun it's hard to prevent, you can however refuse to unlock it.
Same thing MSP Proctor did with Karen Read's phone. What is it with cops getting ahold of women's phones?
Never, ever turn your phone over to the police. Always encrypt your phone. Never use biometrics. Always use a strong password. Do not use cloud backup services that you cannot control, meaning do not use iCloud.
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusketwrong wrong wrong you should always use biometrics and you should turn them off if you suspect you’re in danger of having your phone taken. All you have to do is press your power button 5 times to disable biometrics and require your passcode. It’s not that hard.
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket*Never store nude photos on your phone*
@@rockyroad7345
Unless you are Hunter Biden !
@@rockyroad7345Nude photos are not the only thing on your phone police can use to manipulate you or hem you up. Just about ANYTHING they find can be used to concoct the narrative they wish to justify whatever it is they want to do to you.
I'm very curious to hear what the FBI was investigating and what they found.
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The law enforcement in this country has no idea what's investigating them and what is being created to combat them legally in the beautiful system they created and are about to thrown into
keep paper, NEVER give your phone to a cop!
With the apps it's really easy to request physical cards for proof of insurance.
The average person does not know nor care.
If it requires handing my phone over, I don't want it.
I'm hoping the FBI found her via metadata rather than because they have a huge facial-recognition database.
I mean, they definitely have access to your state ID, which can be scanned in facial recognition. And if you have more than two or three state ID photos, they've definitely got a good sampling.
Snowden will tell you how bad it is. They know everything.
Makes no difference really my friend. Do you not realize that the government sees all?
The only secrets there are, are the ones kept in your head.
Yeah, except I'd bet the cop saved the pic with her full name as the file name.
@@unbreakable7633 it’s hard to tell people from exile. Saddest part is he let a bombshell drop of massive constitutional rights violations that should have massively angered every citizen and only about 0.4% of the population cared.
Such blatant violationS of the 4th Amendment
Until there are penalties for the person doing the violation (instead of fines paid for by the citizens), these violations will continue.
Moral of the story is to have paper copies in your glove box and to NEVER present your phone to a cop. Period.
Back in the day. This is what made Polaroid cameras so popular. The picture quality wasn't that good but you kept possession of the photos so unwanted eyes at the photo store would never see them.
This is one of the reasons that using paper proof of insurance and drivers license should be the only way to prove them. If you have to unlock your digital device and hand it to an officer, then they can use that as 'consent to search'
Right? It was annoying when they stopped mailing insurance cards, but ah okay well I’ll just print one. These days it’s been probably 3 years since I’ve had a device that’s even compatible with the ancient printer I have and the insurance cards expire every 6 months, it gets annoying to remember to print it. I was pulled over about 2 months ago for the first time in 15 years and that was my first thought “crap I do NOT want to show this guy my unlocked phone” even though it’d be way more boring this this lady’s. Oddly enough he had zero interest in my insurance card or even my paper registration, I asked and he said “I have it all already”. When he printed the ticket he did in fact have all of my information. I was also 1,000+ miles from my state of registration and license, so there must be some sort of widespread shared database at this point. Small town cop too, not a Trooper or large municipality…
Never hand them anything. Go back to paper documents.
The American People desperately wish for the police to raise their standards, but the police are having a hard time finding a long enough shovel.
Sadly American's have become complacent cowards who think complaining about government tyranny and Corruption will actually stop the Tyranny and Corruption lmao
They do set the bar pretty low. A study said that if police departments followed their psyc evals, that they would destroy 75% of the applications. ‘Nuff said.
Cops are sovereign citizens who think they don't have to follow the same rules as the rest of society.
A Missouri State Trooper just got charged with 6 felonies for doing the same thing down in Sikeston Missouri.
Somehow unsurprising.
Coincidentally, the bully in high school who stole my gloves with his gang backing him up and a vicious smirk on his face, went on to become a deputy sheriff. Last I knew of him he was making quite a reputation among the female community college students as a creepy, leering, harasser.
Obviously, not all cops.. but there seems to a heck of an attraction of those types of people to that type of job
Charged and convicted are two totally different things when it comes to police.
So how many women were victimized before he was caught? I'd bet the farm this isn't the first time
If he has pictures of others in his phone that he victimized the same way, it's very easy for them to track them all down. His pictures will have a timestamp and most likely a gps location recorded in the pictures data he took. Simply match that up to who he had stopped at those times - now you have dash cam footage, timestamped vehicle stops, body camera footage.. etc. If there were any other photos in his phone of the same thing he did to others, they'll find them and tack on additional charges.
I hear virtually all politicians say the “few bad apples” phrase and yet I say there only a “few good apples” at best. The conduct of these police officers should not surprise anyone.
The phrase is "a few good apples spoil the bunch" on account of the gas they release as they rot, causing them all to rot faster.
People use the phrase the exact opposite way than it's intended lol
Yeah, you really have to wonder why any officer would feel comfortable risking their career and reputation for something like this. Is it because there is a culture of zero accountability...or is he just an idiot?
They should be suing for $25,000,00.00 for illegal search and seizure violation.
The problem is that those judgements should come from the police unions pension fund not from us taxpayers.
@@JebusHypocristosX Good point. I had not thought of that.
@@JebusHypocristosX I think it should come from the individual police officers insurance. Doctors have to get insured for malpractice, I bet if we compare lawsuits against police vs doctors police are sued more often.
@@JebusHypocristosX I guess I am a bit dubious as to the whole sue the pension deal. No one sues someone with expectation of it coming out of their 401k retirement. Usual us lowly minions have a judgement issued against us that is paid directly or through wage garnishment now.
@@JebusHypocristosX I agree.....your post reminds me of a common saying from Malcom in the Middle. "You may thank the cadet after I leave."
Only 25 k? Illegal search and seizure, abuse of authority, obviously I don’t know the law. What rose would you charge this cop with in this scenario?
25 million , a zero was missing
Rose?
A sex crime.
@@brademerick9181if a zero was missing it would be 250,000. Do you mean 2 zeroes?
Sure seems to be A Lot of just a Few Bad Apples.
And oranges, and peaches, and pears, and obviously a few Bananas 😳
.... no low is to low
Thank goodness for qualified immunity. It clearly is so important to have around.
Yeah, this doesn't fall under that. His official duty doesn't include stealing pics off people's phones.
@@tarrantwolf He was "gathering evidence" for a "potential crime." Whoops, it was his crime!
@@tarrantwolfBut you need a case where the police were specifically told in court that they can’t do it.
@@Anonsense-w5g there has been such cases, illegal searches, already covered, stealing from citizens, already covered. Illegal searches and stealing from citizens, already covered.
@@Anonsense-w5g Think an exception was written in recently that if the act is so egregious that an officer should have known their actions were illegal.
Never give cops anything. Volunteer nothing.
If your operating a motor vehicle, you are required to provide a valid driver's license, registration, and insurance if the cop asks. You don't have to answer questions, but you DO have to provide those three things, it's not voluntary, you agreed to it when you got your driver's license. But I agree with others, give them the paper version.
This cop should be prosecuted for a sex crime.
This wasn't a sex crime though, at most this is an invasion of privacy and illegal search and seizure.
Wow that is a terrible idea, there is no sex crime.
This is the kind of crap that happens when citizens allow themselves to be ruled over by a police state.
It appears very apparent, and appropriate, that the photo was needed by the cop to deeply investigate the taillight problem.
She should be happy the cop didn't civil assest forfeiture her entire picture collection.
Should be more than $25,000.00!
$25K is probably the most undersized damages I've seen anyone sue for. The violation of privacy, abuse of power, and damage to respect for this town's LEOs is egregious.
Instead of issuing a ticket he rubbed one out.
Exactly.
Ejaculation vesus citation?
Typical cop move. Perverted and corrupt.
Bro this is beyond fucked and illegal, I would sue you for your whole life if I was that lady.
It's a sex crime.
@@mikeshoults4155is not a sex crime
Qualified immunity says otherwise.
Many years ago, my little brother worked at the Fotomat booth the ones in the middle of the mall parking lot. It was a boring job at times so he would look at the photos. I would st by to bs with him and he would show me some pictures of cool cars. Every now and then he would find some pics of some hot girls, he was showing me some one day of some girls and I told him that's not a girl, after that he never looked again it was such a shock to him.
For ppl who say "if you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about"
This is exactly why I have my insurance printed at all times. Do they really wonder why we hate them so much?
Had my fishing license on phone because I just bought it away from a printer. A DNR officer happened to be checking licenses and I brought mine up on phone and handed it to him, he said no you hold it so I can see it. This was Michigan 👍
Simple trace back on the photo with the timestamp. Almost all officers call in all vehicle stops to their dispatch. They'll give tag, description, and location before ever contacting the driver. That info is recorded in the department computer system.
Failing that, if the officer runs a tag or DL either thru their dispatch or on the in-car MDT, that inquiry is also timestamped and retained in the department computers. If the FBI is investigating something, all those records will be examined.
possible bodycam or dashcam from the timestamp as well.
Some possible ways they found here:
1. He did at least log an entry during the stop
2. It was recent enough that there was footage from the cars cam
3. More creepy, he also took a photo of her drivers license with her name & address as part of a trophy to go along with the photos
I prefer having a paper copy in my car. Occasionally someone else might drive my car. Or maybe the phone charger cord goes bad on a long trip.
My insurance company, bank, and others keep asking me to switch to 'paperless'. They like to cite all kinds of benefits that mostly benefit themselves. This story is the reason I refuse to go paperless. I wonder what else that cop was stealing off people's phones? Bank and credit card numbers, passwords ... That few minutes he had the phone is plenty of time to offload every bit of data it contained onto a memory stick in order to sift through it later at his leisure.
Not to mention the more things you do via digital, the better chance you have of being hacked. Then the bank doesn't want anything to do with you
Of course if you live in an area that the USPS doesn't care about doing their job, you have a decision to make.
Put him on the list
Watch the cops will get rewarded with additional paid vacation - they call it paid administrative leave.
$25k in damages?? That's it?? Should be 100x as much!!
Where I live, that's low enough that it could still be held in small claims court. By the time her lawyer takes a cut, what will be left?
I found an article stating more women have come forward, including at least one minor. This guy is screwed.
" SHARED WITH OTHER PEOPLE " ... I WONDER HOW MANY OF THOSE OTHER PEOPLE ARE LICENSED PEACE OFFICERS OR POLICE OFFICERS? SOUNDS LIKE THAT DEPARTMENT HAS AN ISSUE OF TAKING PEOPLE'S PHONES AND THEN PICTURES OFF OF THEM AND SHOWING THEM AROUND TO THEIR BUDDIES. OTHER PEOPLE. I LOVE HOW THEY JUST IGNORE THE FACT THAT IT'S MOST LIKELY OTHER OFFICERS
"Share with nearby device".
And now the FBI agents have her picture and is sharing it with other agents and they'll have to be investigated.
Digital licenses/registrations are being pushed because it's a way around their inability to force you to unlock your phone with a passcode.
Digital currency and digital ID should be made optional only by law.
Central Bank digital currency is nothing but a slave collar.
When that's forced it's time to buy a crappy phone just for that and don't keep anything else on it.
Which ones scarier to consider from the cop, his lack of self-control over his basic drives or his willingness to violate his oaths and peoples rights?
Did I grow up in a lie thinking cops used to be very decent folks?
Law enforcement maintained a great public image until cellular phones, smart phones, body cameras and social media gave the public the ability to document and share what really happens.
Think back to the Rodney King beating. Those officers were all very comfortable in what they were doing.
That was not the first time. Think of how often police reports don't match the video. In the history of policing, up until recently nobody would question the integrity of an officer. If it was in the report courts and juries considered it fact.
The abuse on the streets is finally getting attention and accountability. The next step is the jails and prisons. These power hungry psychopaths have limited supervision due to staffing shortages and are surrounded by people who society ignores. I'm sure the abuse is rampant.
Yes and no. When I was a teenager (this is Vietnam era) in a very small, hick town we had mostly very good officers. They were your neighbors. Or your parents' former classmates. This was a small town where people all knew each other. And their parents knew each other. We had teachers that taught 3 generations of families. People married the boy or girl next door and stayed put.
The chief of police lived around the corner and played golf with my Dad. If you got pulled over and it was obvious you'd been drinking you were told to park it and walk home. Unless you were female - then you'd get a ride. Because young lady walking by herself middle of the night - dangerous. As long as you were polite and respectful you got treated polite and respectful.
If a cop went bad - and it happened - they were usually "encouraged" to retire early. All charges in whatever case were dropped. Never even went to court.
We had one cop - we called him "John Law" because he was so rigid - after a couple decades trying to catch youngsters smoking weed (we would just disappear into the woods - we hung out in the woods and knew all the trails even with no moon) he got caught planting pot on some kids. They were kids who didn't indulge. He had a major freak out and a nervous breakdown. He was "retired" and all charges were dropped. That was then.
Over the years I've seen my little town deteriorate so badly it's scary. The first time I watched a cop lie in court I was shocked. Now we have these young, smarta** thugs who address seniors by their first name. No "miss", "ma'am", "mister", or "sir". I didn't survive all these years to have some punk whose daddy wasn't even born when I was running around town address me by my given name. I EARNED the right to be called Ma'am, or Mrs. and I'll be damned if I tolerate being addressed any other way by some brat young enough to be my grandson.
Depending on how old you are, while there were always some bad apples, in general officers took their oaths much more seriously - and this is only my experience, keep in mind. I have definitely seen things get worse over the years.
I will say this - at least in my area there are still some decent young men who are officers. One helped me change a fuse in my car at night as I was having trouble seeing. When my car finally died about a month ago 3 different officers in 2 local towns drove me because they saw me walking after dark. One officer even called his supervisor to get permission to cross into another town. NOT ONE asked for ID.
They were all concerned for my safety walking by the highway (which really isn't much of a highway - it's only 2 lanes in some spots) after dark. When I told them my car broke down they all said hop in I'll drive you. When I questioned one he told me it was his job to SERVE the public. Polite, respectful, and doing their jobs. Everything an officer should be! Kind of gives you hope!
I don't think we were brought up on lies - I think there have been too many changes that attract the wrong type of person to the job. And then keeps them in the job by not punishing them severely when they do wrong. Police officers should be held to a higher standard - and if they go bad they should suffer twice the punishment.
I would love to see the days when "police officer" meant an exemplary, honorable gentleman, return. My best friend's father was an officer - he was a good man and a good officer.
Bad apples need to become the exception, not the norm. And good cops need to stand up when bad cops do bad things. And one more thing - I'm sorry girls but I have yet to see ONE of you behave decently. You're worse than the boys! And I'm female!
If you girls are becoming officers to prove something - please go home and learn how to behave like a LADY. We don't need you out there trying to show how you're just as tough as the bad boys. We don't need either the bad boys or you. Go back to desk jobs. Or meter maids. Nothing is quite as distasteful as watching some of these young lady officers act like Imelda Marcos, harassing the peasantry for some perceived crime, like "you were at the gas station an abnormal amount of time". Seriously! You prove every day how unsuited you are to work as an LEO!
@@valarianne2284 About those from out of town?
"Can you store your licence in your bank app so we can take a looksee?" There was no intention to help people secure their identity. It's a warrantless access.
I constantly watch your channel for 2 reasons, great content and zero ads
... that, and Jennifer's quip at the end...
What type of person desires to have authority over others? The type that should never hold a servents position. 😂
She is lucky he didn't do worse to her using his authority to force her.
We had one of those in my area back in the 80s. I was immune due to 2 things: I was a bartender in a bar he liked and my Grandparents were HIGHLY respected in that town. And yes, I dropped my Grandpa's name to get out of tickets for "stuff I didn't feel like doing" - as in having my car overdue for inspection. Because I was a bit of a brat back then.
This "officer" would hang out by the clubs and if he saw a pretty young lady leave he would follow her, pull her over and offer her a choice. Get a DWI or give it up. The girls were terrified they might cross his path.
He actually did pull me over one night, but it was just to ask why I wasn't working (I think I had mid terms the next day and was headed to a classmates to cram) and who WAS working. He liked to stop in at closing (3AM here) and sit for a couple hours. While we waited. And waited. And waited - we just worked all night and wanted to go HOME! This was the place everyone stopped at the end of the night - so from 11PM to 2:45 they were 3 deep at the bar with 3 bartenders running our tails off and no clean glassware so we had to do that by hand. No time to put it through the machines.
We were TIRED! But we really didn't have a choice. Some nights my boss used to turn off almost all the lights and we would clean up in near darkness trying to avoid having him stop by to "visit".
Jerk was completely clueless. He thought we WANTED to hang out with him - as if it were some great privilege. Most of us just wanted to go home with our respective boyfriend/girlfriend and pass out from sheer exhaustion. That jerk literally held us captive until the sun came up many nights.
What an a**hole.
Don't ever hand your phone to a cop. If you use biometric thumb print info to unlock your phone. Stop that.
We used to have a phone in the office, now we have an office in our phone!
Why anyone would take and keep nude photos of themselves on their phone, is beyond me...
It's NOT "beyond" thousands... if not MILLIONS. That why the story is the officer stealing the photo and not anything else. There are FAR more people who can relate to the victim. Plus... if the cop can steal that from your phone, they can snoop and steal anything else too. THAT (I belive) is what captivates most of us to the story.
What idiot would hand their unlocked phone to a cop?
Can't read it? Here, write down the policy number. I'll read it to you.
She didn't hand it to him, he took it out of her hand saying that he couldn't read it.
"One Hour Photo" - Robin Williams
Well, on her license plate, it does say it’s the “show me” state. Guess the officer really took it to heart.
If this case manages to get in front of a judge I'd really like to know if the cop will attempt to claim qualified immunity.
You know he will. "Your honor, there is no prior case law that indicates that this was a violation of her rights."
Show me a cop I’ll show you a criminal .
If there's one thing we definitely know happened during this investigation is that something definitely popped up
😂😅😂
This is why you carry a Physical copy and Do Not give anyone your device's.
They always manage to hit new lows 🙄
Very young, I heard on TV Dobie Gillis say "Maynard, you've hit a new high in lows".
Oh look. Another reason to distrust cops. What a surprise.
Police are just people. There's nothing special about them. There's no reason to trust them.
That cop violated the 4th amendment..
Not really. She gave him her phone like an idiot. She is partially to blame.
FBI probably found her on Facebook like everyone else
NEVER allow anyone to take a photo of you or do a selfie that you wouldn’t show to your father or mother. NEVER.
That's cool that your retirement home has wifi
@@Essence1123 Then don’t whine and try to sue when your photos get on the internet. Going through life is hard. Going through life as an idiot is really hard. Enjoy your life.
@@bills6946but it's a way for married couples to flirt with each other, nothing wrong with that. If the pic does accidentally get on the Internet, oh well, who cares, they are married and have a right to see each other that way
What about that Paramedic who assaulted unconscious victim(s!) in the Ambulance on way to Hospital - and he took videos of them?
Sick World.
How did they find her?
To quote Nicolas Cage in The Rock, "It's the FBI."
"Carla _was_ the prom queen."
@@bartsanders1553 Green smoke! I got green smoke!"
i think any officer that got a copy of that picture, and didn't instantly report that officer, should be fired, and charged with sexual harassment.
Every organization that offers someone control or authority over a vulnerable group of people is a target for sadists. Sadists get very good at disguising themselves as caring and trusteorthy. They have to or they can't approach their victims.
Sounds like the democrat party!
OMG, that cop belongs in prison. He sounds like a predator and should never be trusted again.
Digital copies of documentation is a bad idea when dealing with the police. Only hand paper.plastic documents to a cop.
If you use fingerprints or face to unlock your phone you should also "lockout" your phone if you are pulled over which disables the fingerprint sensor for one time.
On Android long press the power button and select "Lockout"
I'll let iPhone folks tell people what the process is for iPhones.
On another note, you always answer the questions I'm asking myself. That's why I watch your videos.
I was wondering the same thing Steve was. How did they trace the photo back to a lady from a traffic stop? That could have been from anybody. Crazy stuff.
There is a lot of "hidden"(not in plain sight) info on smart phone photos, if you know where to look, eg take a photo with your phone then view that photo and scroll down V
Possibly body cam had her likeness on it. And if he was being investigated, the date the photo was stolen would be on his device, making it easier to know which day of body cam footage to review.
Body cam footage may have picked up her license plate.
Probably dash cam or traffic cams. He had no reason to turn on body cam. The time stamp from his phone would tell them where to look.
One quote I have found to be true over the years comes from Medal of Honor recipient Col. Gregory "Pappy" Boyington, USMC (ret.), "Show me a hero, and I'll prove he's a bum." He said this as the final line of his autobiography. It’s the most true statement I've ever heard.
I agree that the cop needs to be prosecuted. That said, why would anyone not have a hard copy of their registration/insurance in their car, and then compound it by having nude pictures of herself on a phone she hands to someone else. Two people involved and one's a perv, while the other is just plain dumb.
According to news outlets he had many other photos (enlarged and printed) and shared them. It's a Class D felony. I wonder if he had other photos that would be of particular interest to the FBI and she just got included in the larger investigation?
So, how did the FBI know it was her? Face-ID, or maybe some other body part-ID?
I wonder...
I was thinking... He bragged to someone how he got a picture. They turned him in. FBI gets Time/Date stamp or EXIF info w/ GPS and pulls dashcam or bodycam of the date/time getting the tag number or a possible view of her driver's license. Just a thought.
Or a photo of her insurance card?
Cop's report? license plate?
It's great when your town makes the news. It's even better when you aren't surprised.
25,000 it should be multi millions!!!
Could you imagine if she had been only 17 at the time? The paperwork would have consumed a forest.
Ben - Warming the first mic ... Steve's right.
MO atty here. $25k is the jurisdictional minimum to file in Circuit Court rather than the Associate Circuit Court.
That police officer is apparently sick and twisted. With all of the free pictures of naked women available, why would you need to steal from a stranger?
Sounds like a case that would be worth well over $25K.
He didn’t steal anything. A photo is an intangible item. Besides, he got it for free. He definitely should be suspended for a few days though.
Face recognition software can easily find her. You know the software they have is better than what is available to the public.
Ben is standing in front of the first mic on Steve's RHS
$25,000 seems extremely low.
Date & time of the pic on his phone (and maybe location data) would be consistent with perhaps his radio call or log entry for a traffic stop, regardless of ticket or not, still get logged. Additionally, you know 1000% he ran her for history, driving record, address etc on his car computer so that would all be tracked to the second and match near precisely with the date/time stamp of his phone picture. Identifying her was literally a few more clicks on the FBI computer once they had the date/time stamp of the image from either this cops phone or maybe him being dumb enough to text that picture of a pic to another person who reported it. This guy doesn't sound smart enough to strip the meta & EXIF data off the image before sharing it. In the good old days a cop could look and see when, where, and what for you may have gotten prior tickets for on your license. Now the systems are so detailed they run you and it tells them all that plus the last time you were run, and by whom. They used to ask when your last ticket was and is your license clean.... now they ask that and most will ask the last time you got pulled over and whether you got a warning or a ticket because they already know if you burned your courtesy for being a good driver for xxx years or whatever and now you get a ticket, even if the warning was another place, officer, etc. Moral of the story, stick to paper copy documents in your car for traffic stops and accident reports AND keep your phone screen locked while driving. Don't touch the phone while driving and don't be fiddling with it once you get stopped. It's a new environment the world around us.
Just because you can, doesn't necessarily mean you should.