Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports Dct 2020 | An African Adventure
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- The second vid in the Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports DCT 2020 series, having ridden the bike for a while I decided I needed to take it on a wee adventure to really decided where I stood with this bike. Seeing as it was October the perfect choice seemed to be a run to the sun down towards Devon and Cornwall where I could try this bike and its DCT magic along the beautiful roads and hairpins which inhabit this part of the land. So did I gel with the Honda Africa Twin and her DCT gearbox or not?
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Happy Birthday Mr Teapot. Some how I missed the details on your trip which is very enjoying as you literally rode straight past my door upon the beautiful Dartmoor hills,and would of loved to join the gang.Let me know when you venture down into the south west again,. Keep up the excellent videos.
Thanks bud, I posted up on my Patreon so that’s how the lads in the vid knew about it 👍
Didn’t know it was your birthday. Hope you had a great day. Really enjoy your channel. In these days of total despondency you and several of your fellow floggers make life bearable. Keep up the good work.
The Cornwall blog was great..
Keep up the great work...
Thanks a lot Andrew, I actually forgot myself until I woke up to a birthday text from the wife! 😬🤦♂️😂
Great to hear you’re getting something positive from the vids, that’s what it’s all about for me.
Cheers
Bruce 👍
We did a very similar route last year - great riding roads! Thank you for a great vid!
Thanks bud, appreciate that 👍
Aye it’s a great place to ride in the South West, so many wee lanes and places to explore
Morning Bruce, In October I did a four day 900 mile south west tour with some friends. Many of the roads you rode are familiar. We stopped in Lynmouth too, beautiful part of the world and some fabulous roads... Looking forward to many more great vids. Nash Nulls!!
Cheers Craig, aye it’s a beautiful part of the country isn’t it 👍
I own one and find the engine braking was the hardest to get used to, and the throttle is quite twitchy, but eventually I got the user settings where it's smooth now. Definitely sport mode is a must, using regular D it feels like you're driving a tractor.
Nice mini trip that Bruce, great to see you out and about mate. Kind regards, Beans.
Cheers Beans 👍
I feel the same about DCT, I don't want a bike that is shifting when I don't want it to. Funny thing is that is seems all the people that have them swear it is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Yeah that’s true, it’s either for you or it’s not I think.
I can see a lot of positives for DCT, but it wouldn’t be my first choice, much prefer the standard manual gearbox.
I have the new AT dct, put in manual and you can shift at your will, only on the downshift it will force itself down if the Rev get too high
Riding a DCT myself. You can actually „train“ the automatic shifting pattern by interfearing manually with the shift pads. After couple of times it will follow your riding style. Also you can program the revs higher or lower for shifting points in the settings.
Too many gadgets is the story of all modern bikes, they seem to want to make them into cars lol.
So true
Hey my old neck of the woods , before moving to Costa Calida, you were lucky finding a parking space in Lynmouth (-:
Great roads along ur route .
great review bruce honest review
Great Video Bruce nice to see some of my own stomping ground in Somerset love the stretch of the A39 From or to Lynton and Lynmouth .
Thanks man, it’s a lovely part of the world as you know, aye that bit of the 39 is stonking 👍
Great watch. Good bike but not for me, I'm TMF stature 5ft 8in, 11 stone. I would probably drop it within an hour, that's if I could get on it. Now a GS low seat (and low suspension if needed) ticks the boxes. Thanks for sharing
I have a crosstourer highlander DCT which only has Drive, Sport and flappy paddles. As you say Drive is useless unless you are just bumbling along a 50 mph straight A road or Auto-route for hours (better MPG). Sport is my 'go to' and I don't have the downshift problems in bends as your Sport 2 mode. If I'm doing twisties then it's flappy paddles all the way. Mine has the earlier DCT (2015/16), maybe that's the difference? Iv'e had the bike from new and it took 2 years and 5,000 miles to get properly used to the DCT (after using gears for 45 years!!). Been lucky this year and done the Pico's and Pyrenees between lock downs. 16,500 miles on and it's still running like clockwork and just coming to the end of set 2 of tyres. got 8,000 miles from the OE, the rest on much better Continental Contitrail 2; great grip!
OOOOoooo haha shame you weren't on your GS ,you rode through my stomping ground there barny across to lynton across to minehead then across to tiverton oooohaaa some twistys to part the men from the boys * ) usually on my duc 1100s but if I'm feeling lazy the Bonny puts a grin on every time * ) nice one Bruce catch you soon ...
After the glorious 12th April I'll be throwing a leg over one or two of these for a test ride. The dealer has talked me into trying the dct as well but I think manual with quick shifter and if I'm gonna throw extra money at it it'll probably be on the electronic suspension.
Alright Teapot, I've had an 18 plate Africa Twin for nearly a couple of years and found it great to ride, like you say S3 mode if you want to be cracking on, or D if you're just dawdling around, actually very relaxing. BUT, you hit the nail on the head going down that hill when you said it didn't want to change down - that's no bloody good is it, it should do as you want it to, lives could depend on it. And the tiptronic switches are great if you think about them, but not intuitive. Moving your left foot to change gear is intuitive.
As it happens, I'm going back to a proper manual, -a Speed Triple, paid my deposit this very morning. I know you test rode the RS, but I've opted for the S as they're reported to be a better road going bike. Being a stout gentleman, was there any hint of the suspension getting out of shape? I had an MT-09, which was brilliant apart from the suspension being designed for a smaller chap possibly from the country of it's origin. No good for ME.
Hi Mike,
That Speedy is a beautiful machine, the RS and the Super Duke R are my top 2 road bikes so far.
Re the suspension, do I never felt it out of shape at any time I had it, and I took it down some proper barely back country lanes around Kent and Sussex.👍
Enjoy it truly…
I am always terrified when I see somebody to drive on left lane.😂.
The indicator switch giving you the horn? Is that bike a keeper?
Happy birthday!! :) Probably very late at this point but sure look :D That view at 12:00 mins was bloody incredible. Matt had a KTM ghost, it happens :D Great video man, I would give DCT an extended chance too but I honestly think it'd end up as it did with you. God damn gopro batteries eh :D
Ha Ha thanks bud, yeah I think you’re either DCT or you’re not really - it’s an impressive system and I can absolutely see the advantages for some, but it’s just not my cup of tea at the mo 👍
you should try full manual mode!!!
Didn’t even know it had that at the time of filming unfortunately 🤷♂️
Same as you Bruce, didn’t like the loss of control, bike changing down mid corner yuk. No thanks.
I don't think the Africa twin handles particularly well on the road, especially compared to a gs. The 21 inch front is not great for the road. If it came with a 19/17 option it would be much better.
Totally agree with you there, the 21” front just doesn’t give me the same feedback on the road as a standard 19” wheel does
Digging the new intro!
Thanks man, I actually prefer the old one but people seem to like this one better 🤷♂️👍
@@teapotone depends on the video I guess ... sometimes a long intro is needed ... I would keep them both 😁
Thank you for posting. About the shifting, I have heard a few mixed reviews about the DCT. Is there an option to just run it in manual all the time?
Aye unfortunately I didn’t know about the manual mode when I had the bike 🤦♂️🤷♂️👍
Lovely place. I went in that ruin, have pics of me there🙂was the helicopter still on its stand in lands end?
Aye it is
I almost (almost) pulled the trigger on an AT a few months ago, I still think it's the best looking adventure bike, I love the looks. I may well have been able to live with the lack of grunt but the 21in front wheel and over complicated switch gear and cost (when you look at it's competitors) stopped me short.
I was laughing soo hard when he gave you the middle finger 😂 awesome video
Ha Ha - ‘Nice Lad’!
He’s still not impressed.... wait till he gets the t-shirt 😉😂
And once again a trip to Cornwall and you missed staying here , hot tub wine and a proper Cornish pasty.
28:20 Ford Pen Lech in Harlech, Snowdonia
love my dct crosstourer , far better than manual
Put the trans in manual then use the paddles.
Sadly I didn’t know about manual when I filmed this 🤷♂️👍
Why two speedos?
The top screen can be used as a satnav via apple car play, so the bottom screen still shows you your speed and gear
@@teapotone I see! Was wondering. Thanks 😊 agree totally with the change down into first on corners. Not good at all
Bruce the Africa Twin looks like it has the same problem as Helga.....bloody speedo gone fuzzy ,oh so annoying.
Got my new AT DCT 3 weeks ago, love it to death, had a BMW GS and RT for past 8 years. Love the looks, the smart DCT which you can override in a second with the paddles, the ride comfort, the engine, the narrower width, of the engine, the DCT advantage off road and in town and the superb build quality. Thank you HONDA !!! (Got the Touratech crash bars which are perfect)
I have a DCT and only use the paddles for downshifting when needing some engine braking. TBH I really don't get the issues with it changing down on corners - I guess I may have changed my riding so that doesn't really happen perhaps?! The Africa although the front is slightly vague at the front wheel I personally think it's like that to be able to handle the mega rough stuff and for that it would be great I'm sure and if it came with a standard size then most people would say it should have a larger tire. All in the AT is an great bike as you say and if it was this or the GS then I think for cost savings on running and overall costs I reckon I would go Honda. No right or wrong there. I hear your a GS fan lol. Cheers
I reckon you, TMF and that nutter who races everywhere on one wheel should do a mass ride-out to Poole Quay one Tuesday for bike night. I reckon it would be a hoot.....
At 2:58 when you named all the lads Bruce, I must admit In my head it went "Hugh, Pugh, Barney Magrew, Cuthbert, Diddle n Grub." 😁👍
😂👍
Enjoying your high quality vids on the AT mista pot. But in all honesty, you can't run a big 1100cc twin down to 15 mph on a steady or overrun throttle in a higher than base sports mode and not expect it to change down to first gear. And then guess what, you can't expect to quickly opening the throttle in first gear in a mid sports mode with the bike leant over and not expect it to have a smidgeon of snatch! Learn to finish braking before the corner and be accelerating through the apex and rolling it on on the exit and you'll be fine. Plus a little more confidence in the bike and its tires in the twisties, from what I could see (which included the silt etc), would help too. It's just a learning curve IMHO, the bike seems to be working exactly how I would expect any bike to, DCT or manual.
Yesss! My 3 seconds of fame at the beginning. It was a great day out and a shame I wasn't able to stay for longer. Looking forward to future meet-ups.
Cheers Paul, was a pleasure to have you along bud 👍
Commenting on very old video but another perspective, I've got this bike and got so hacked with the behaviour of the DCT (including the dropping into first at tight corners thing) that I had the optional foot switch installed (expensive alternative to the paddles but kept hitting the wrong button with the paddles) and now ride it everywhere in manual mode changing with my foot and using the DCT as a quick shifter that it's impossible to stall. Brilliant bike ridden that way.
I’d just rather have the full manual personally, I like the engine though
I've had my Africa Twin AS ES for 4 months and I learned something new in this video today.. S1,2 & 3. Can't wait to go out and try it. Thanks Ritchie for letting Bruce know!! I don't remember Ritchie telling me this on his channel.. I guess I know which one I'll be watching for more info now ;-)
Nice review of the bike Bruce. The only bikes I've ever ridden without gears (or clutch) were single speed scooters and they were a hoot to ride but not very fast. On a bike as BIG as that one coming out of, or going into a corner the last thing I'd want is to not be sure of what gear it was going to give me. I'll give that one a pass personally.
Just watched this review again which was from almost a year ago, which must Happy Birthday Bruce 🎉🎉🍺🍺👍😀
Cheers John 👍
Good informative vlog. 👍 For someone with limited or painful mobility in the hands it's great to help them continue to be able to ride a bike. This bike seems like the Honda Civic (Zzz) automatic I have which has DCT - use the automatic for town and motorway which is great but anything else and you've got to use it as a manual via the flappy paddles.
Great video! The DCT just might be the greatest thing that's ever been invented! And so many people are trying to promote it... you cannot get me to want one!! I tried it, no way!!!
Yeah it’s not my cup of tea either, certainly on a bike like this anyway.
It makes sense on the Goldwing though, that is brilliant.
Camborne/Redruth birth place of the railway.... next time u are down I will put u all up and join u for the rest of the ride on my Triumph
Thanks very much bud, very kind of you 👍
How nice it would be to own one of these, pack some clothes, a tent and a sleeping bag and just travel around, camping somewhere near each night and exploring the roads (on or off them) on this! Great video 👍
That’s the dream eh!
Thanks bud, glad you enjoyed it 👍
Great video Bruce, far to many gadgets on the bike, sounds expensive if anything goes wrong.
Cheers Michael👍
The channel that keeps on giving. I watched bru time this morning with breakfast and now having my lunch. Looks lovely...wooooo haaaaa!
Ha Ha cheers Murt, hope you’re feeling better soon bud 👍
Great review of the AT, i've recently looked at the older CRF1000, but decided to keep my Versys.
I do think, there is far too many gadgets on modern bikes now, all the gizmos, too many buttons, all very distracting.
I'm guessing, most of the settings, you'd choose your preference, then leave alone; so why make them electric?
As I said, IMO, there are far too many gizmos on modern bikes that 'can' go wrong, especially on the big ADV's. What happens if you're in the middle of nowhere and the computer has a brain fart??...........stranded?!
Be safe, ride safe and have fun, Grumps.
Yeah I do think it’s getting a bit silly now with the electrics, but people were saying this about the 2011 Gixxer I took on my trip - didn’t have a single electrical issue with it and never have 🤷♂️👍
@@teapotone fair play 👍
The manuel is better with ES. Tank isn't full (24l) all the time ;)
Cracking Vid Bruce. It was a great couple of days and I only wish I had stayed for the ride along the A39 to Minehead. Looking forward to the next time 👍👍. ps. It doesn't always rain in Devon....just most of the time 🤣
Ha Ha cheers Mike, was great to have you along bud, cheers for making the effort 👍
Teapotone....bro can you do me a favour...ask that guy owning ktm does his bike pulls on one side when riding off hands
Hi not at all what makes you ask ?
Because mine do from a start from a day i bought it
DCT ? That's why I part-X'd my X-ADV after two years for a Tiger 900 GT PRO, I love it, not too big or heavy (I'm 78, the AT is for me, too big, to heavy) . Cheers, Gordon (Canterbury)
Hey Bruce, if you are ever down that way again check out the Minack Theatre, absolute
must see…..
Thanks Emaill, I’ve heard a lot of people say that, I’ll check it out one day bud 👍
Like I said absolute must see, Don’t do any research or reading up on it just turn up a discover all about it on your visit, I guarantee you will not be disappointed 👍
Brilliant once again Bruce , love roads around the west country ..
Try the manual box version defo 👍
You can in the settings turn on and off the self cancel indicators
Cheers Keith, I’ve actually ridden the manual already when I was out in Slovenia in the summer - vids coming in a month or so 👍
After sitting in a recovery truck driving up a steep hill, as it’s Auto gearbox would drop into first, Rev up the hill until it changed up, which was too high a gear and we’d grind to a halt until it shifted back down and repeated. I vowed never to touch an auto gearbox in my life. I could see you were experiencing the exact same thing, and it’s the last thing you want on a bike.
just been to lands end myself today, Paignton to Looe for coffee and a sausage roll then down to Lands end came back along the A30, jumped across to the A38 and back home via Totnes 245 miles covered on my 17 year old kawasaki vn800 classic, bloody cold but loved every mile. another great video Bruce thanks for the content
When is too much, too much? What is the long term viability, of so many gadgets? Personally, i prescribe to the KISS principle..
Great Vid Bruce - you did make me laugh saying about all the traffic down the far South West - you want to see it summer time - complete nightmare - glad you did the A39 thats the local boys road of choice, hit it right and much fun can be had !!!!!!!
Cheers Andy, aye the 39 is a total hoot when done at ‘energetic speeds’ eh, a proper arrive at your destination in silence, giggling to yourself hysterically moment 😂👍
It is interesting that only mainly GS owners say that GS is better. ;-) Tested both of them before buying and had no doubts.
Looks Great, bit Transalp and too high for me..... Loved the review though Teapot, Landsend, my country!!!!
Porlock hill burns clutches out going up and brakes going down
Yarp - fairly impressive isn’t it 👍
I really like the Africa twin but am a bit put off by the DCT. Be interesting to see what a manual one is like. 👍
Because you are not good enough for 2nd.....that's why ..lol
I really enjoyed this review, purely because of the way you did it by means of a trip. I rarely watched reviews in their entirety but this one hit the spot.
Nice one, cheers Bib, glad you enjoyed it 👍
Beautiful roads and landscape, fuck I miss living in the South-West
Make sure you blur both speedos ;) P.S why does have a bike have 2 speedos?
Ah bugger, thought I’d caught all of them! 🤦♂️👍
stuart moore when your using sat nav on the main screen you can still see your speed and gear position on the other screen.
So many bikes I’d love to own 😎☝️🇬🇧🏍🇬🇧 another good review and watch keep up the good work
Thanks bud 😉👍
Old saying - if it 'feels firmer in the arse' it's time to change your barber
😂👍
Hello from colombia south america that's the bike of my dreams..
Hi Diego 👍
are you going to be doing any rides around Exeter area this year do you think, would be awesome to tag along on a ride one day
Hi Dale,
I tend to do my organised rides and meet-ups over on Patreon now bud - they basically allow me to do this full time so I try to give back as possible
@@teapotone that's fair enough man I guess I'll have to sign up
The vids will always be free to view for everyone Dale, but if you choose to become a Patreon, I’d gratefully appreciate it and make sure I have a brew with you 👍
Great review. DCT defo not for me. Totally contrary to the way I was taught to drive/ride. 👍
Great analysis ... the dct will be like marmite but great for long motorway journey's im sure... i have ridden a number of bikes and on normal roads the hp is irrelevant . If you are on an autobahn then clearly its different.
For me it’s all about the torque - I want face ripping grunt from a bike so I can enjoy it without the threat of jail time speeds. The AT is a very good bike for its target market, but for me it doesn’t come close to the KTM, Ducati or Beamers for grin factor.
Each to their own though, there are plenty out there who disagree 👍
@@teapotone agreed i toured on an explorer but after trying the beemers ducatis ktm i plumped for the new tiger 900 as its just so much lighter
Think you got more used to the bike, however don’t think it’s your favourite 😂
Thanks Bruce for a great Rideout and great vid 👍👍👍
My pleasure bud, appreciate you meeting up and coming along.
Here’s to many more once freedom returns 😉👍
I was in Redruth on my birthday, literally, I was born there.
That dropping down auto gearing is for traction in the mud I recon
Great review as always Bruce, Keep it safe and have a great week
Belated happy birthday teapot 👍🎉
How did you find it on the motorway. I’ve got the previous version and just doesn’t seem to cruise comfortably at motorway speeds, gets a bit waring. Fully agree with the 1.5 hr arse ache !! Hi
Cheers John, I didn’t actually do too much motorway on it really, but nothing ever jumped out at me about it, felt fine for me 🤷♂️👍
What do you think about the new rebel 1100.
It has the African Twin Engine in a modified
Frame. Manual or DCT . Available in US after the first of the year.
Haven’t seen anything about it bud, first I knew of it was when TMf’s vid came out 🤷♂️👍
Why don't Honda do like Yamaha do and give you a foot lever for the DCT? At least then you'd feel like you're still in control of the gears, and you can change down to 1st when you want, not halfway through the corner. The DCT on the FJR just feels like you've got a *really* good quickshifter.
I’ve got a DCT Crosstourer, and it’s great BTW. You can buy a Honda gear lever to just bolt on mine so I imagine it’s the same with these AT’s. I don’t miss the lever so haven’t bothered. Can’t get why Teapot doesn’t like DCT, it’s terrific.
So it's basically automatic gearbox ... ?
Yep
Great video Bruce it was a great trip I enjoyed every minute of it, I don’t like the ect thing it has its place but for me it takes away from the experience of the ride .I would have the bike but just in manual version , thanks again for letting me tag along , they say video adds 10 pounds more like 10 stone in my case 🤣🤣 keep safe & ride safe big man looking forward to seeing the next video‘s.👍👍👍
Cheers Dale, was mega to have you along for the trip bud 👏👍
If you went to Shaftesbury, did you go on Zig Zag Hill? Given what you're saying about the DCT is would have spent the whole time in 1st gear
Aye not far off it 😂👍
The best I like was at 05:08 to 05:09, listen to what he say in two seconds, loved it.
I'm still very new to riding, but I just can't see why you wouldn't want to change gear, that's part of the fun of riding for me. One of the things that surprised me as a car license holder of 20+ years is that it wasn't easy to ride a bike, the bike makes me really earn/work for the miles in a way that a car never has, for me dealing with gears and how they effect the bikes balance is part of that.
Aye I’m the same, it’s part of riding.
However I do appreciate that DCT certainly has a place for some, whether that be through disability or preference, but it just wasn’t for me on this one 👍
Did i hear crude control 😅 explains u not enjoying it
Happy 21st Bruce 🎂
Ha Ha.... Stone! 😬😂👍
Thank you bud 👍
Another great vid Bruce. Devon and Cornwall are both beautiful. But then I am slightly biased 😊
Ha Ha and rightly so bud 👏👍
Isn’t it tiptronic and not triptronic?
Probably
Yes pal nice to find you great vid . I’ve got the ES plus pack DCT and a Goldwing tour , and yes love the twin but the seat kills it . My mate Kev and I go touring (when we could) (he’s also got a bmw LT but on the biggies I lend him a DCT )and the idea is to swap between the twin and the wing !! But I’ll be honest the last 5000 miles I did I didn’t go on the twin once , due to the comfort issue. Poor Kev’s arse was like a battered blood orange 🍊🤣🤣 where mine was converted in pillow tufted heaven . So I’ve found a guy up north near me and Richy V who is an upholsterer and a biker 👍 winner , he’s put an 1+ 1/2 inch of gel and a heater pad , it’s transformed it 🙏 . As for the drop down on the sharps ive set my own page up and tweaked it to suit, for me it’s worked but I hear you . Keep up the good work speak to you again thanks. Jonathan
Cheers Jonathan 👍
@@camper9356 soreted saddles on FACEBOOK good man 👍
Think there was a glitch in the matrix there at lands end ! And my bike was just having a rest 🤪 was good to get out on the bike thanks for having me along 👍
Ha Ha, it was just the KTM letting you know who is in charge bud!
Mate it was my pleasure, appreciate you coming along as always 👍
brilliant ride, I love this area, especially that part after Lynmouth
Aye it’s a great ride isn’t it, and beautiful surroundings too 👍
you were lucky not to meet me in the open top bus on the st ives to lands end a lot of bikers get a shock I feel for them being a biker myself scary
Ha Ha aye it’s a tight fit eh! 😂👍
Sure you have enough cameras on your helmet mus be heavy as f
Just watched it again great few days away epic roads & great company can’t wait for the next one 👍👍🤪
Ha Ha cheers bud, was a good time wasn’t it.
Can’t wait for freedom to return 😉👍
Good review and ride with the clan Bruce. Looking forward to similar with the GS when you have time 😉
Absolutely bud - I’ve hardly ridden the tractor of late! Off to Swindon tomorrow on her to take some of those older bikes out for a spin, can’t wait 👍
Come and see us in essex Bruce
Absolutely bud, as soon as it’s ‘socially acceptable’ again I’ll be hitting the road to meet-up all around the Uk 👍