Here is the link for the stats I compiled in this sheet for this video: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EhyTGvvraMmmoyPiLjwyEEGSXYKmA5-UT0tqK4PNQHw/edit?usp=sharing Apologies for the delay! Had some crazy stuff happen with work over the past week that I had to get handled. Hope you enjoy & have a good day!
Eco gives me draymond green vibes. Facilitator, he’ll get outshone by the renegades of the world but eco’s role is arguably most important for the team to work
I was upset to see Renegade at 3, but equally pleased to see Eco at one. I have been saying since the start of Infinite that I think he is just an absolute monster. I view him as the true successor to Lunchbox, the person who will never get the recognition he deserves but who is very clearly the main voice in comms and who keeps the map flowing smoothly for his team while being so disruptive for the enemy team and fulfilling the obj role while still having the raw talent to be a main slayer.
Over the years I’ve come to recognize Eco’s greatness more and more. Real marvel to witness. I am curious!! Where do you think Renegade should have landed?
@@DeviousGruntAlliance Eh I was only upset because I hadn't gotten to the part where Eco was first lol, was happy to see him receive deserved recognition. I think I'd put Renegade second over Lucid, just because I find Renegade to be more consistently clutch which is something I personally value highly. The amount of situations that looked terrible for C9 that Renegade manages to get an extra kill, or stay alive, or get a touch during has just been absolutely unbelievable to watch. Lucid is still a beast don't get me wrong, but I think Renegade is just a more well-rounded, clutch player than Lucid is.
@@c10ember39 Ohhh okay I get it now. Yeah in the future I may change the structure of these videos, it’s hard to distinguish what’s “impressive” from what’s the “best”. Renegade over Lucid for Anaheim I do agree with, he performed better! I was just proud of Lucid haha I thought he stepped up big time
@@DeviousGruntAlliance No worries, it’s a fantastic video. To be honest (as a competitive Halo fan since H3 and a C9 fan since 2013), the player that impressed me the most at the tournament overall is Spartan. That dude stepped up the most relative to his performance pre-tournament to Anaheim. Like everyone already knew Lucid was a god and C9 were the best overall roster, but Spartan came out of nowhere and put on absolute show all weekend, became a true superstar imo.
Great list dude. New subscriber here. Been out of the loop with comp Halo for some time now and have been using your videos to get back on track. Great content. Keep it up brother!
Nice breakdown! If you don’t mind, can you link the live prediction show pre-Anaheim with Mikwen? Wasn’t aware this happened. Comp Halo needs more content like this to maintain/grow interest.
@@andresdavidsanchezgranda3765 My best guess is either SSG or no where until after Kansas City. If you think about it, Formal & him basically swapped places, now just like Formal sat out from Anaheim there aren’t many clear/good options for Ola
I was about to say exactly that from the last part. This top is based on what? team synergy, leadership? call outs? RIFLE SKILLS? It is important to make the distinction cause players that need a team to command usually don't have the clutch to overcome a 1v2, or the confidence to clutch a 1v1 to regain oddball or an objective.
Sometimes they do! I think SnakeBite is a great example of someone who commands but also clutches 1v2s, and handles objective so well. Eco is also just like this & his clutches & gunplay were so amazing at Anaheim. A lot of his skills aren't seen easily through the screen like Mikwen said, but he is so important to making the team work. I'd say his leadership is his best quality, and he overall was shooting better than normal this tournament
I thought my cohost was going to upload it but he never did! I'll ask and I may upload it straight to this channel, I'll reply back to this comment soon to see what's up. It was a great convo though Mikwen had some really interesting things to say
(Update) so it looks like only my friend has access to the VOD & he’s away from his comp until Sunday 🥲 So it’ll be a little more of a wait but it’s coming!!
Hard to say for now! I was kind of wanting more from Formal at Raleigh, but obvi it's hard to judge with the situation he was in then. I think Formal on Optic now is his first real test to see how good he really is. I agree his coms are next level. I hold Eco as higher value for now, but the floor is open for Formal
Formal doesn’t necessarily IGL in Halo yet in comparison to Eco. Formal is more of human UAV/radar in regards to his comms in Halo. Eco literally comms actions that need to be made more so than where the enemy is on the map. They are both great communicators in there own way.
Ola and Envore should have been on here man, the C9 roster all did what they usually do best, they didn’t impress they just do what they usually, I mean impressive in it’s own right but it’s not really a surprising impressive, either way I’d like to see some work on the best players now
@@youngmazapan yes he did, what tournament did you watch? Renegade said specifically Ola was the best on the team against them and he was surprised when he was dropped, just because Ola was dropped does not mean he did bad, he was dropped for playstyle not for ability, there were countless games, 2-3 against C9 the best team and games against other teams where Ola was pivotal, Ola did bad in every game against eUnited and that was it
@@DeviousGruntAlliance and also I meant Envore should have been on the actual thing, not a HM, his placement doesn’t mean he wasn’t great, he showed great leadership, composure and determination, the guy is a future star in halo
I think it was a very quick decision that wasn't entirely to blame on Ola's performance. I don't think he was the problem with Optic, more-so the team dynamic & how they used him. Formal was also prime real estate, I'd be willing to bet he was getting team offers & the other guys on OG just decided to pull trig. All speculation though. I do think OG inevitably had to make a team change to contest C9 though, in my opinion they nearly hit their ceiling at Anaheim. They possibly had foresight that the current roster was just not gonna work, and were just quick with it. Whether or not they'll improve I'm neutral to it. On paper Formal "should" make them better, but it's really impossible to tell until we see them in tournament, it's first place or bust now
Here is the link for the stats I compiled in this sheet for this video: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EhyTGvvraMmmoyPiLjwyEEGSXYKmA5-UT0tqK4PNQHw/edit?usp=sharing
Apologies for the delay! Had some crazy stuff happen with work over the past week that I had to get handled. Hope you enjoy & have a good day!
As someone who follows the competitive scene, your channel is amazing.
For real dude
Thank you for the kind words, really
Eco gives me draymond green vibes. Facilitator, he’ll get outshone by the renegades of the world but eco’s role is arguably most important for the team to work
I agree that Spartan really stepped up this event!
Amazing video! Great analysis keep it up
Thank you 🙏
i wish eco streamed so i could witness his gameplay more. i want to study him, and the tournaments dont allow you to see just his POV.
Ever thought that THAT was his reason for not streaming?
@@myfirstnamemylastname752 no i never thought that, thanks for making me think that now.
I was upset to see Renegade at 3, but equally pleased to see Eco at one. I have been saying since the start of Infinite that I think he is just an absolute monster. I view him as the true successor to Lunchbox, the person who will never get the recognition he deserves but who is very clearly the main voice in comms and who keeps the map flowing smoothly for his team while being so disruptive for the enemy team and fulfilling the obj role while still having the raw talent to be a main slayer.
Over the years I’ve come to recognize Eco’s greatness more and more. Real marvel to witness. I am curious!! Where do you think Renegade should have landed?
@@DeviousGruntAlliance Eh I was only upset because I hadn't gotten to the part where Eco was first lol, was happy to see him receive deserved recognition. I think I'd put Renegade second over Lucid, just because I find Renegade to be more consistently clutch which is something I personally value highly. The amount of situations that looked terrible for C9 that Renegade manages to get an extra kill, or stay alive, or get a touch during has just been absolutely unbelievable to watch. Lucid is still a beast don't get me wrong, but I think Renegade is just a more well-rounded, clutch player than Lucid is.
@@c10ember39 Ohhh okay I get it now. Yeah in the future I may change the structure of these videos, it’s hard to distinguish what’s “impressive” from what’s the “best”. Renegade over Lucid for Anaheim I do agree with, he performed better! I was just proud of Lucid haha I thought he stepped up big time
@@DeviousGruntAlliance No worries, it’s a fantastic video. To be honest (as a competitive Halo fan since H3 and a C9 fan since 2013), the player that impressed me the most at the tournament overall is Spartan. That dude stepped up the most relative to his performance pre-tournament to Anaheim. Like everyone already knew Lucid was a god and C9 were the best overall roster, but Spartan came out of nowhere and put on absolute show all weekend, became a true superstar imo.
Came over from Kevin’s channel! Loving your stuff as well!
Damn bro I appreciate you coming over to comment this! Love Kevin he’s probably the hardest working Halo youtuber I know
Kind of surprised not to see anyone on Pioneers make the list, they did fantastic. Good video nonetheless
Spartan has a bit of a pudge goin on lol
Lucid was unreal, literally a wrecking ball.
Thanks, Eco!
Great list dude. New subscriber here. Been out of the loop with comp Halo for some time now and have been using your videos to get back on track. Great content. Keep it up brother!
Nice breakdown! If you don’t mind, can you link the live prediction show pre-Anaheim with Mikwen? Wasn’t aware this happened. Comp Halo needs more content like this to maintain/grow interest.
It never got uploaded! But I am going to do that very soon you aren't the only one who asked 👍 he had some really cool things to say
ey bro i was missing you, ty for the video, the drop from optic to psitola was unreal
Yeah I thought he did so well on Friday & Saturday. We’ll see what happens interested to see where Ola goes
@@DeviousGruntAlliance I was thinking on that, where is ola going for?
@@andresdavidsanchezgranda3765 My best guess is either SSG or no where until after Kansas City. If you think about it, Formal & him basically swapped places, now just like Formal sat out from Anaheim there aren’t many clear/good options for Ola
Love the content dude 👍👍
Keep the vids coming 👍👍
I was about to say exactly that from the last part. This top is based on what? team synergy, leadership? call outs? RIFLE SKILLS? It is important to make the distinction cause players that need a team to command usually don't have the clutch to overcome a 1v2, or the confidence to clutch a 1v1 to regain oddball or an objective.
Sometimes they do! I think SnakeBite is a great example of someone who commands but also clutches 1v2s, and handles objective so well. Eco is also just like this & his clutches & gunplay were so amazing at Anaheim. A lot of his skills aren't seen easily through the screen like Mikwen said, but he is so important to making the team work. I'd say his leadership is his best quality, and he overall was shooting better than normal this tournament
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Tier they all deserve respect they represent all gamers on a public stage. Much Respect ✊ Power to the Gamer. Most Impressive
Well said!
Awesome stuff!
Thank you Lindsay
Thanks for the great video. Do you still have the full VOD of the talk with mikwen somewhere? :)
I thought my cohost was going to upload it but he never did! I'll ask and I may upload it straight to this channel, I'll reply back to this comment soon to see what's up. It was a great convo though Mikwen had some really interesting things to say
@@DeviousGruntAlliance Any news here? :)
@@HerrBratpfanne Hey! Yeah I spoke with my guys & they’re cool with it. I just got back from my vacation last night so aiming to have it up tomorrow 🤗
(Update) so it looks like only my friend has access to the VOD & he’s away from his comp until Sunday 🥲 So it’ll be a little more of a wait but it’s coming!!
Finally uploaded! th-cam.com/video/JrKSJkuYieM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=DeviousGruntAlliance
Halo Infinite is the best FPS currently on any platform.
Great video as always. I heard that Formal is also a good IGL with great communications. Do you think he could challenge Eco in this aspect?
Hard to say for now! I was kind of wanting more from Formal at Raleigh, but obvi it's hard to judge with the situation he was in then. I think Formal on Optic now is his first real test to see how good he really is. I agree his coms are next level. I hold Eco as higher value for now, but the floor is open for Formal
Formal doesn’t necessarily IGL in Halo yet in comparison to Eco. Formal is more of human UAV/radar in regards to his comms in Halo. Eco literally comms actions that need to be made more so than where the enemy is on the map. They are both great communicators in there own way.
Ola and Envore should have been on here man, the C9 roster all did what they usually do best, they didn’t impress they just do what they usually, I mean impressive in it’s own right but it’s not really a surprising impressive, either way I’d like to see some work on the best players now
Ola did not deserve to be on here lol
Envore was on here! I'd argue all of Optic did super well, thank you for the comment man
@@youngmazapan yes he did, what tournament did you watch? Renegade said specifically Ola was the best on the team against them and he was surprised when he was dropped, just because Ola was dropped does not mean he did bad, he was dropped for playstyle not for ability, there were countless games, 2-3 against C9 the best team and games against other teams where Ola was pivotal, Ola did bad in every game against eUnited and that was it
@@DeviousGruntAlliance and also I meant Envore should have been on the actual thing, not a HM, his placement doesn’t mean he wasn’t great, he showed great leadership, composure and determination, the guy is a future star in halo
@@youngmazapan optic doesn't beat sentinals if it wasn't for ola popping off.
Thoughts on Ola being dropped?
I think it was a very quick decision that wasn't entirely to blame on Ola's performance. I don't think he was the problem with Optic, more-so the team dynamic & how they used him. Formal was also prime real estate, I'd be willing to bet he was getting team offers & the other guys on OG just decided to pull trig. All speculation though. I do think OG inevitably had to make a team change to contest C9 though, in my opinion they nearly hit their ceiling at Anaheim. They possibly had foresight that the current roster was just not gonna work, and were just quick with it. Whether or not they'll improve I'm neutral to it. On paper Formal "should" make them better, but it's really impossible to tell until we see them in tournament, it's first place or bust now
need an editor for scripts? senior english major usa graduating this semester and love this channel
Hahah I did notice while editing that I did make some grammatical errors, what’s your email?
why do you look like kevin eco's younger brother lmao
Lmaooo isnt the first time someone has said this
Eco is smart player but he is no lucid or Ren
Faze didn’t look to good.