Credit to that soldier. He disarmed you with his calm demeanor and words, got you chatty and got the location of your private vehicle. Well done. I respect that skillset.
As someone who does, and has been doing the job u saw here (Security Forces), just because the gate where IDs are checked is further up, doesn’t mean they don’t have jurisdiction outside of it. The base I’m currently at, we have 2 spots where we have proprietary jurisdiction outside the base, where there is no gate, and public can access. There are three types of jurisdiction: exclusive, proprietary, and concurrent. All Air Force installations have a demarcation line (or are supposed to) which shows when u are on the property. At my current base, that is about 100 yards prior to getting to the gate. So don’t just assume that because u haven’t passed an ID checkpoint that u aren’t on military property.
Very well presented and respectful US Military. Beautiful well kept memorial. They were nice guys and i think they were just making polite conversation to avoid awkward silences. You can understand why they would be suspicious. Massive respect to them.
They're always unfailingly polite, just very noticeable compared to UK police and military. No point auditing them, they don't get flustered and don't rise to anything. I used to live near a US base in Suffolk and everyone loved them...polite, charming, professional guys and girls.
NO RESPECT. They're foreign terrorists committing & guilty of horrendous war crimes & crimes against humanity, & unwelcome invaders on sovereign UK soil interfering with OUR inalienable freedoms.
Was that Elvis driving past on the white bike? is that a fixed blade the Sgt is wearing was just behind his radio 25:53 in? was he issued it if not even though he's an armed officer it's illegal
Yer....looks dodgy...dosent conform to any uniform I can find but military po po can be a bit gung ho around these bases. Horsham seems to be the hot one at the moment.....be careful if you visit they hate cameras with a venom.
Great video, I went to Cambridge today like I said, a couple of the security guys are still there, but no sign of the muppet..... I'm really upset about the nfa..... That place needs a bigger group of us to go... But I'm glad I went..... Video up on my channel..
I was stationed at RAF Alconbury 1968-69, USAF 10th Security Police Squadron Law Enforcement. Summer of 1968 one SP/LE person was send to RAF Molesworth for an 8 hour shift 24 hours a day. There was no razor wire or gates. I would drive around the base or walk. I like driving out on to the inactive runway and park and think about what it was like during WWII. Also like going there off duty on a Friday or Saturday night to the Airmen's club. Great memories. We did the same for RAF Chelveston.
I was stationed there in the late eighties, 1987-1988 it was a ground launch cruise missile base the 303rd tactical missile wing. It was manned by US and British service men from the RAF Regiment. Brings back some fond memories
Prohibited places fall under section 1 and 3 of the 1911 OSA. That covers everything you need to know and military personel do not have to give you their details.
@ubiquitousubiquitous3843 Incorrect, SOCAP has not removed any of the protections given to military establishments, those still stand, so you've got it wrong there, they are still all covered under section 1 and 3 of the 1911 OSA, which is about to be replaced and guess what? Even more non military (that being MOD buildings) have been added to the prohibited places, the penalties have also been amended, from removing people from the area, new prison terms and fines (or both), updated terminology for UAV's, video and photography, so that people cannot fail to understand it or the repercussions attached to the new laws.
@ubiquitousubiquitous3843 It does apply because you don't understand what it is telling you, you don't get to choose what is prejudicial to the safety or interests of the state, the state get to do that, and I have over the past put plenty of information up from legal sources that back me up, including examples given by said legal sources. And then you also seem to miss out section 2? "On a prosecution under this section, it shall not be necessary to show that the accused person was guilty of any particular act tending to show a purpose prejudicial to the safety or interests of the State" This section is very one sided, you don't have to be spying to be done under the act, you can read this>>> after downloading it, plenty of information in there regarding what is and isn't legal. white paper 375 official secrets act
This Base is massively high security rated. All I can say is its Nato. Do not mess at all with this base. Do not walk or drive up to security desk as you will be detained if you have none or incorrect paperwork. Even if you have a pass and the correct paperwork sometimes you still not allowed entry.
Fair play to the US soldiers they acted professionally so credit to them police were professional too so credit to them too. I guess if you want aggression back to the job centre lol.
It used to house nuclear Cruise missiles on that base in the 80’s and that is the spot the peace protesters camped for years.. I grew up around that area and we used to go to the air shows at Alconbury airbase down the road too .. it was amazing but scary to have the missiles so close .. the peace protesters had to go up agaist so much but dug deep and eventually all the missiles got removed … it’s very very interesting and to this day especially now with how the world is .. I appreciate those woman and some men so very much..
The missiles being removed from RAF Greenham Common and RAF Molesworth had nothing to do with peace protestors. They were removed simple because the cold war ended and the global threat no longer existed. In fact you could argue that the protestors and the CND movement in general helped lengthen the cold war as their actions emboldened the Warsaw pact and as history has shown was partly funded by the USSR.
@Open Paranormal Actually only certified members of the US armed forces are allowed to carry government issued fire arms on any US or joint military installation. However we are not allowed to bring our firearms off base when we are off duty overseas. Security forces have jurisdiction inside the installation and a few meters outside the installation. If however we need public authority we can always dispatch civilian police to help out with a citizen of the country that does not have access to the installation. We do indeed have civilian contractors who are citizens of the UK and only those have access on base. Just because you are a citizen of your country does not mean you have a right to enter the installation without permission and if you do so Security forces are allowed to use force and apprehend or detain a civilian and hand them over to local authorities. It is up to the locals though to decide whether or not to charge them with a crime or trespassing, depending on the severity of the case. Hope this clears up some of the confusion.
I do the same job in the military, been all over the world. We train our guys to respect our host nation counterparts. We obviously don’t want to be rude as guests when they want us there. Obviously there are outlying cases. But in uniform, it is instilled in everyone at the very start of basic training to treat everyone with respect. This was no surprise to be by the SF. I can’t wait to get stationed in Europe again
Strange place for a Peace Garden right next to a memorial for a Bombardment Group - notice which one is all shiny and well kept and which one is disused and forgotten?
Great film mate that american soldier was friendly and he let you have a little look but RAF looks good job but it must be hard to join the army the police officers were understanding.
If you go to RAF Mildenhall their tankers have a 'D' on the tail ( today they are known as the 100th Air Refuelling Wing) but in WW2 they were known as the 100th Bomb Group (B.17 Flying Fortresses) better known as the 'Bloody 100th' due to the high loss on one raid.
Quite a bit grey legal techical issue. Legally no one (person) can have (on person) a firearm on British soil unless licenced (authorised by British Police). Next issue is called discharge of a firearm on British soil. Techncally self defence rules applies. This means, a good reason for having a firearm in your posession, next a good reason why you discharged. Now military land RAF or USAF would come under MOD Investigation jurisictions before British normal police. Off base would be normal police jurisictions first but then SIS would take over. Issue is where the MOD land boundries are not the fence line. Now your question, can a US soldier carry a gun off base, technically no. Did these soldiers leave the base boundries, no. If in an emergency they needed to, the Base Commander would be told, so would British Police Control and the reason why and the police to attend too. Now super grey area in British law.... these soldiers identified themselves as Security Forces (not MP) so they would have good reason to tell a HMCTS Judge if in an emergency to slightly leave base with a gun in order to secure the base. They would also have harministation agreement with UK Government defining engagements. This does not mean a armed US Solider can leave base to go to the local postoffice or shop, or drive off the base with "wearing a firearm or active firearm" (unless having chitty saying they can) as that is not a reasonable reason in their job role, so no. Again using (discharging) a firearm is a different question to wearing holding one on person. Factual answer is no. Legal answer, is grey area but engagement agreement proberly exists. Reality answer, is possible with a valid reason or chitty.
Weird to see the US having military bases in the UK but the UK doesn't have any bases in the US. What is the general views of the US Military in the UK? I know in some countries like Japan, you do have a mix reception of the US military.
The peace garden has another fence at the back of it, that's why the public can enter that specific area. If you don't understand why you are not allowed on MoD property...well
soldier thought your vape was a detonator 🤣🤣🤣 also u should have mentioned u was doing a1st amendment to them then they might have caught on 😂 anyway the soldiers were very polite I feel u were pushing it a little with them tho considering they were nice but true fair enough it was an audit...
they really are pathetic, 3 forces and two cops for someone visiting a memorial garden when the one to one interaction at the start was all that was needed
MOD police let themself down by saying you are recording people entering and exiting the MOD site there is no law against filming people from a public place The only time MOD police have powers of MOD property is when the county chief constable asks for the MOD police to assist them with a major incident then they have the same powers of the local police the information is on the MOD police web site I checked out the peace gardens and it looks like it is where the first sign is and not on base so the gate should be closed and locked It needs some loving care
Fair play to the police officer. I’d have driven off too. You’re a busy-body and you know full well that you’re behaving in an inflammatory manner. The police have got better/more important things to do!
pttp is a great auditor coz he is calm polite respectful and knowledgeble about r rights but he does not provoke or antagonise.if auditors r goin out 2 provoke situations 4 likes etc then this cud hav a adverse reaction and push r government in2 changing these rights,be careful what u do guys
Yes, its a bit hillarious to use it as its only for accessing a building for the likes of deliveries by using a path or driveway (postie, milkman, paperboy etc), walking through a gate that is open onto private land is tresspass, the fence and barbed wire sort of give you a clue, and the difference is that on military installations its not civil tresspass but criminal.
@@Crashawsome Right, as you have most of that totally incorrect, lets correct you. Implied right of access has nothing to do with presumption in favour of public access, nada, zero, nothing, its a totally different issue about the access to MOD land when there are public footpaths crossing it, the implied right of access is basically this:- A right of way may be implied where it is necessary for the reasonable use of a property. This basically means that just walking through an open gate because its open gives you no right what so ever to do so, you only have a right to access a property on some form of business with the owner, be this a post man, milk man, delivery man, paperboy etc, that is what an "implied right of access" is, so they can access a property without fear of trespass. MOD land on the other hand has a right to access if using a public footpath or right of way, these can be closed if there is live firing going on, they may be open if there is dry training but as with any crossing of MOD land, you must stick to the footpaths due to any ordnance that could be lying around, and you must not remove anything found lying around either. If the red flags or lights are visible then you must not access the land due to the above life firing/training. In this above respect, the MOD also give prior notice to the land being closed for live firing, its available on the internet if you wish to look up any area where there is public access onto MOD land. Now, in respect to the "open gate", its plain trespass, but as its an MOD site, its not a civil trespass matter, its a criminal trespass matter, if you cannot get that the 12+ foot fence with razor wire on top isn't a hint, then those accessing it are pretty stupid, it's not hard to see what a fence is for in the first place, plus as its private property, the use of camera's or video equipment is also banned unless specific and prior authorisation is granted by the landlord or landowner.
The stop sign is clearly a iconic thing as it's a us air Base! Their is no such law as in the UK for "running a stop sign". If their exit is clear their free to leave without completely stopping!
Please do an audit of RAF Welford Berkshire. And if you are too afraid to do it...tll us why you won't do it?? Also You might try RAF Barford St John Oxfordshire. Again why not, what on earth would you be afraid of?
@Irigouis88 Yes but you would find the reaction of the guards particularly interesting at Welford.....I,ve guarded nuclear stores and the rules of engagement...(shooting someone dead) are very different.....Barford is not run by the USAF, and has not been for a long long time...Nor the CIA and that leaves??? begins with N.....and they can find out the last time you kissed your boyfriend or took a dump before you get back to your car.
@Irigouis88 It's the security levels you don't see that are important...but I am glad that you are so well informed.........take a walk around the wire at Barford.....don't look at who comes to confront you...look for the guys that stay well back. Usually big black SUVs (or they were a couple of years ago).
Served there in the 80s. Ground Launch Cruise Missile Base. No silos. People occupied the peace garden protesting the nuclear weapons on the base. INF treaty closed that mission in 89. Then it became a Headquarters unit for NATO.
Power to the Proletariat, I'm a big fan of your style of auditing, ( even though you did insult one of my heroes of free speech by repeating what the Woke Authoritarians say about him). LOL 😆
it's amazing how many "officials" ask _you_ for information about _their_ property. "i'm contacting my leadership" "take me to your leader?" lol. official speak.
next time ask a US service person if his nation will honour their word and hand back the British base in the Indian Ocean...Diego Garcia.... i bet they won't even be able to spell it !!
Credit to that soldier. He disarmed you with his calm demeanor and words, got you chatty and got the location of your private vehicle.
Well done. I respect that skillset.
No conversation is ever casual with an official
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At 10:56 Senior Airman Stewart definitely took a picture of you on his mobile phone camera.
So the side gate was open for the food truck and they forgot to close it? How's that for security?
Again off the base and out of their jurisdiction. Love from Texas.🥰
Hi Texas, have you watched Reggie Photo.
Texas loving UK vids 😊👍
I think shes from Texas not called Texas
@@andrewgilbertson5356 you’re crazy mate!
As someone who does, and has been doing the job u saw here (Security Forces), just because the gate where IDs are checked is further up, doesn’t mean they don’t have jurisdiction outside of it. The base I’m currently at, we have 2 spots where we have proprietary jurisdiction outside the base, where there is no gate, and public can access. There are three types of jurisdiction: exclusive, proprietary, and concurrent. All Air Force installations have a demarcation line (or are supposed to) which shows when u are on the property. At my current base, that is about 100 yards prior to getting to the gate. So don’t just assume that because u haven’t passed an ID checkpoint that u aren’t on military property.
LET HIM HAVE IT!
Guard> What are you doing here
Reply> Recording you fibbing to me right now.
*Mr. Sneaky Airman at the **10:56** mark recording with his cell phone trying to be James Bond.*
hi pttp, this was a really interesting interaction.
many thanks and kind regards.
No drones ?? Ttis whole base is on Google maps
Good interesting audit. Many thanks PTTP.
Enjoyed that, thanks 👍.
Great job man! It can be nerve racking but you kept your calm.
I love the shut down. "Sir, i do not want to have a conversation with you" brilliant!!!
great stuff this keep them videos rolling
Very well presented and respectful US Military. Beautiful well kept memorial. They were nice guys and i think they were just making polite conversation to avoid awkward silences. You can understand why they would be suspicious. Massive respect to them.
Why ? The camera?
They're always unfailingly polite, just very noticeable compared to UK police and military. No point auditing them, they don't get flustered and don't rise to anything.
I used to live near a US base in Suffolk and everyone loved them...polite, charming, professional guys and girls.
making polite conversation to give the police time to arrive
NO RESPECT. They're foreign terrorists committing & guilty of horrendous war crimes & crimes against humanity, & unwelcome invaders on sovereign UK soil interfering with OUR inalienable freedoms.
@@GiBMan70 yet you watch American audits and that is the opposite of what happens here.
It looks like a really nice memorial
Was that Elvis driving past on the white bike? is that a fixed blade the Sgt is wearing was just behind his radio 25:53 in? was he issued it if not even though he's an armed officer it's illegal
Yer....looks dodgy...dosent conform to any uniform I can find but military po po can be a bit gung ho around these bases.
Horsham seems to be the hot one at the moment.....be careful if you visit they hate cameras with a venom.
Great video, I went to Cambridge today like I said, a couple of the security guys are still there, but no sign of the muppet..... I'm really upset about the nfa..... That place needs a bigger group of us to go... But I'm glad I went..... Video up on my channel..
Another great local video, keep em coming 😀
I was stationed at RAF Alconbury 1968-69, USAF 10th Security Police Squadron Law Enforcement. Summer of 1968 one SP/LE person was send to RAF Molesworth for an 8 hour shift 24 hours a day. There was no razor wire or gates. I would drive around the base or walk. I like driving out on to the inactive runway and park and think about what it was like during WWII. Also like going there off duty on a Friday or Saturday night to the Airmen's club. Great memories. We did the same for RAF Chelveston.
I was stationed there in the late eighties, 1987-1988 it was a ground launch cruise missile base the 303rd tactical missile wing. It was manned by US and British service men from the RAF Regiment. Brings back some fond memories
Prohibited places fall under section 1 and 3 of the 1911 OSA.
That covers everything you need to know and military personel do not have to give you their details.
@ubiquitousubiquitous3843 Incorrect, SOCAP has not removed any of the protections given to military establishments, those still stand, so you've got it wrong there, they are still all covered under section 1 and 3 of the 1911 OSA, which is about to be replaced and guess what? Even more non military (that being MOD buildings) have been added to the prohibited places, the penalties have also been amended, from removing people from the area, new prison terms and fines (or both), updated terminology for UAV's, video and photography, so that people cannot fail to understand it or the repercussions attached to the new laws.
@ubiquitousubiquitous3843 Section 1 and 3 do cover trespassing, and the NSB has been passed, its just waiting for Royal Assent.
@ubiquitousubiquitous3843 It does apply because you don't understand what it is telling you, you don't get to choose what is prejudicial to the safety or interests of the state, the state get to do that, and I have over the past put plenty of information up from legal sources that back me up, including examples given by said legal sources.
And then you also seem to miss out section 2?
"On a prosecution under this section, it shall not be necessary to show that the accused person was guilty of any particular act tending to show a purpose prejudicial to the safety or interests of the State"
This section is very one sided, you don't have to be spying to be done under the act, you can read this>>> after downloading it, plenty of information in there regarding what is and isn't legal.
white paper 375 official secrets act
Then the ginger nut clever plod turned up .
Classic .
Dipped in tea before he got there....soggy is the word 😆
American asking a British in UK "what are you doing here?"
A great audit mate. Can't beat a bit of British banter lol. You did a great job here 👍🏽
This Base is massively high security rated.
All I can say is its Nato.
Do not mess at all with this base.
Do not walk or drive up to security desk as you will be detained if you have none or incorrect paperwork.
Even if you have a pass and the correct paperwork sometimes you still not allowed entry.
If I remember correctly, Molesworth is a very big base. Last time I visited that area remains of WW2 Nissan huts rusting away in the undergrowth.
Fair play to the US soldiers they acted professionally so credit to them police were professional too so credit to them too. I guess if you want aggression back to the job centre lol.
It used to house nuclear Cruise missiles on that base in the 80’s and that is the spot the peace protesters camped for years.. I grew up around that area and we used to go to the air shows at Alconbury airbase down the road too .. it was amazing but scary to have the missiles so close .. the peace protesters had to go up agaist so much but dug deep and eventually all the missiles got removed … it’s very very interesting and to this day especially now with how the world is .. I appreciate those woman and some men so very much..
The missiles being removed from RAF Greenham Common and RAF Molesworth had nothing to do with peace protestors. They were removed simple because the cold war ended and the global threat no longer existed. In fact you could argue that the protestors and the CND movement in general helped lengthen the cold war as their actions emboldened the Warsaw pact and as history has shown was partly funded by the USSR.
@@johncallaghan2205 the missiles were removed because of the INF treaty signed not long after they arrived.I know this because I was stationed there.
What camo is that little guy wearing? It doesn't look like the normal multicam.
good audit well done
Under what law can they open carry guns outside the base?
Good question actually 🤔
@Open Paranormal I don't think soldiers have diplomatic immunity pursay
NO THEY CAN'T
@Open Paranormal interesting
@Open Paranormal Actually only certified members of the US armed forces are allowed to carry government issued fire arms on any US or joint military installation. However we are not allowed to bring our firearms off base when we are off duty overseas. Security forces have jurisdiction inside the installation and a few meters outside the installation. If however we need public authority we can always dispatch civilian police to help out with a citizen of the country that does not have access to the installation. We do indeed have civilian contractors who are citizens of the UK and only those have access on base. Just because you are a citizen of your country does not mean you have a right to enter the installation without permission and if you do so Security forces are allowed to use force and apprehend or detain a civilian and hand them over to local authorities. It is up to the locals though to decide whether or not to charge them with a crime or trespassing, depending on the severity of the case. Hope this clears up some of the confusion.
Police NEVER just have a conservation , they always fish .
funny looking peace garden lol - we have many many peace gardens where i live in surrey lol
Pleasantly surprised by these US military - well done lads !
I've been a few places. MeXiCo, Morocco, US, Eastern Europe ... Everyone I've spoken to would back the military over police to back the people.
I do the same job in the military, been all over the world. We train our guys to respect our host nation counterparts. We obviously don’t want to be rude as guests when they want us there. Obviously there are outlying cases. But in uniform, it is instilled in everyone at the very start of basic training to treat everyone with respect. This was no surprise to be by the SF. I can’t wait to get stationed in Europe again
Why tf are they worried?
There's nothing but fast food cafes and s#ithouses in the bloody place.
"These must be the emblems of the Divisions"😂😂😂
Clearly says 'Squadron'!!! DOH!!!
Strange place for a Peace Garden right next to a memorial for a Bombardment Group - notice which one is all shiny and well kept and which one is disused and forgotten?
Omg, the memorial, is masonic!!
Interesting vid.
All I have in my head is a voice screaming Get Off The Grass 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great film mate that american soldier was friendly and he let you have a little look but RAF looks good job but it must be hard to join the army the police officers were understanding.
That guy snapped a pic mate 💯💯
About 10 mins in, maybe 11
Open gate ,fucking clever ???
A bit of respect all round is all it takes...
If you go to RAF Mildenhall their tankers have a 'D' on the tail ( today they are known as the 100th Air Refuelling Wing) but in WW2 they were known as the 100th Bomb Group (B.17 Flying Fortresses) better known as the 'Bloody 100th' due to the high loss on one raid.
Now that NICE car was a Porsche.. 🏎
And that Harley was gorgeous! A customised Ultra/CVO or something like that 🏍 😄
So they invited you in to the garden to keep you there long enough for the law to turn up. Sneaky.
Those Americans should not be carrying firearms outside of the Airbase under any circumstances. Their jurisdiction is strictly within the boundaries.
Quite a bit grey legal techical issue. Legally no one (person) can have (on person) a firearm on British soil unless licenced (authorised by British Police). Next issue is called discharge of a firearm on British soil. Techncally self defence rules applies. This means, a good reason for having a firearm in your posession, next a good reason why you discharged. Now military land RAF or USAF would come under MOD Investigation jurisictions before British normal police. Off base would be normal police jurisictions first but then SIS would take over. Issue is where the MOD land boundries are not the fence line.
Now your question, can a US soldier carry a gun off base, technically no. Did these soldiers leave the base boundries, no. If in an emergency they needed to, the Base Commander would be told, so would British Police Control and the reason why and the police to attend too. Now super grey area in British law.... these soldiers identified themselves as Security Forces (not MP) so they would have good reason to tell a HMCTS Judge if in an emergency to slightly leave base with a gun in order to secure the base.
They would also have harministation agreement with UK Government defining engagements.
This does not mean a armed US Solider can leave base to go to the local postoffice or shop, or drive off the base with "wearing a firearm or active firearm" (unless having chitty saying they can) as that is not a reasonable reason in their job role, so no. Again using (discharging) a firearm is a different question to wearing holding one on person.
Factual answer is no.
Legal answer, is grey area but engagement agreement proberly exists.
Reality answer, is possible with a valid reason or chitty.
@Irigouis88 Yeah, they call it airside.
They can in the line of duty
@ubiquitousubiquitous3843 Glad you agree then....
@ubiquitousubiquitous3843 Again so glad you agree then.
Weird to see the US having military bases in the UK but the UK doesn't have any bases in the US. What is the general views of the US Military in the UK? I know in some countries like Japan, you do have a mix reception of the US military.
It is a British base built by us in ww2 but just least to tje us atm
Brilliantly done. Wish more auditors would just say I'm not interested in having a conversation and walk off
The peace garden has another fence at the back of it, that's why the public can enter that specific area.
If you don't understand why you are not allowed on MoD property...well
soldier thought your vape was a detonator 🤣🤣🤣 also u should have mentioned u was doing a1st amendment to them then they might have caught on 😂 anyway the soldiers were very polite I feel u were pushing it a little with them tho considering they were nice but true fair enough it was an audit...
They must be bored to death.
They just couldn't let you leave without giving you a pigging directive 🤣 🐷
MOD had to give directions before they left...........
The letter 'C' was the tail code on I believe B.17's during WW2
Thank you for the info! Love it when I find out these little trinkets of knowledge 👌
im impressed in most of these videos the American forces conduct their self very well
straight away with the 20 questions
10:06 [ what kind of flag is on his sholder?]
The backwards flag, or mirrored flag, simulates a soldier running forward in the early battles, making the flag fly backwards.
Gan yursel San dain braw keep it up dude
I thought the yanks were ok on this one, Nice change for a change
Yeah, some Roadrunner business between the pheasant and the rabbit.
The gate was for a food truck? Don’t make me laugh.
Shows by the monument, who really owns the bases
Was that Mavric @34.21
They even flew their own cars in? wtf
Use to have Christmas fayre there and Alconbury before 911 were nice burgers there the base booster club does
Also the US military guy took a pic of you in the beginning on his phone.
The white C seems to be the marking of the 303rd Bomb Group. As written on the memorial.
they really are pathetic, 3 forces and two cops for someone visiting a memorial garden when the one to one interaction at the start was all that was needed
Gingernut needs a good talking to from his mum....
MOD police let themself down by saying you are recording people entering and exiting the MOD site there is no law against filming people from a public place The only time MOD police have powers of MOD property is when the county chief constable asks for the MOD police to assist them with a major incident then they have the same powers of the local police the information is on the MOD police web site I checked out the peace gardens and it looks like it is where the first sign is and not on base so the gate should be closed and locked It needs some loving care
Fair play to the police officer. I’d have driven off too. You’re a busy-body and you know full well that you’re behaving in an inflammatory manner. The police have got better/more important things to do!
pttp is a great auditor coz he is calm polite respectful and knowledgeble about r rights but he does not provoke or antagonise.if auditors r goin out 2 provoke situations 4 likes etc then this cud hav a adverse reaction and push r government in2 changing these rights,be careful what u do guys
Just making conversation my arse!
implied right of access ?
Yes, its a bit hillarious to use it as its only for accessing a building for the likes of deliveries by using a path or driveway (postie, milkman, paperboy etc), walking through a gate that is open onto private land is tresspass, the fence and barbed wire sort of give you a clue, and the difference is that on military installations its not civil tresspass but criminal.
@@Crashawsome Right, as you have most of that totally incorrect, lets correct you.
Implied right of access has nothing to do with presumption in favour of public access, nada, zero, nothing, its a totally different issue about the access to MOD land when there are public footpaths crossing it, the implied right of access is basically this:-
A right of way may be implied where it is necessary for the reasonable use of a property.
This basically means that just walking through an open gate because its open gives you no right what so ever to do so, you only have a right to access a property on some form of business with the owner, be this a post man, milk man, delivery man, paperboy etc, that is what an "implied right of access" is, so they can access a property without fear of trespass.
MOD land on the other hand has a right to access if using a public footpath or right of way, these can be closed if there is live firing going on, they may be open if there is dry training but as with any crossing of MOD land, you must stick to the footpaths due to any ordnance that could be lying around, and you must not remove anything found lying around either.
If the red flags or lights are visible then you must not access the land due to the above life firing/training.
In this above respect, the MOD also give prior notice to the land being closed for live firing, its available on the internet if you wish to look up any area where there is public access onto MOD land.
Now, in respect to the "open gate", its plain trespass, but as its an MOD site, its not a civil trespass matter, its a criminal trespass matter, if you cannot get that the 12+ foot fence with razor wire on top isn't a hint, then those accessing it are pretty stupid, it's not hard to see what a fence is for in the first place, plus as its private property, the use of camera's or video equipment is also banned unless specific and prior authorisation is granted by the landlord or landowner.
@@Crashawsome Lol, said like a true idiot who does zero research and thinks they know it all 😄
You've just made yourself look stupid to the world.
was it a really sunny day - really needed sunglasses? lol
The stop sign is clearly a iconic thing as it's a us air Base! Their is no such law as in the UK for "running a stop sign". If their exit is clear their free to leave without completely stopping!
RUBBISH
Read the highway code relating to STOP signs on the highway, you seem to be getting confused with GIVE WAY signs.
its not american soil its British soil its operated by the USAF
Please do an audit of RAF Welford Berkshire. And if you are too afraid to do it...tll us why you won't do it?? Also You might try RAF Barford St John Oxfordshire. Again why not, what on earth would you be afraid of?
@Irigouis88 Yes but you would find the reaction of the guards particularly interesting at Welford.....I,ve guarded nuclear stores and the rules of engagement...(shooting someone dead) are very different.....Barford is not run by the USAF, and has not been for a long long time...Nor the CIA and that leaves??? begins with N.....and they can find out the last time you kissed your boyfriend or took a dump before you get back to your car.
@Irigouis88 It's the security levels you don't see that are important...but I am glad that you are so well informed.........take a walk around the wire at Barford.....don't look at who comes to confront you...look for the guys that stay well back. Usually big black SUVs (or they were a couple of years ago).
What if you wanted to report a serious concern to the MOD police? Ensure that you escalate thar as far as possible!
I think molesworth was more missile sylos rather than a runway. Possibly now decommissioned after the SALT talks back in the 1980s
Served there in the 80s. Ground Launch Cruise Missile Base. No silos. People occupied the peace garden protesting the nuclear weapons on the base. INF treaty closed that mission in 89. Then it became a Headquarters unit for NATO.
Well What a insult to Piece /// 303 is actually masonic 33 as always ///
what ?.
You handled the situation well with good respect for both the American and British police 👍.
@@Crashawsome I should complain
11 minutes in he definitely took a sneaky picture of you....
Wow he can read ,yanks !
Power to the Proletariat, I'm a big fan of your style of auditing, ( even though you did insult one of my heroes of free speech by repeating what the Woke Authoritarians say about him). LOL 😆
Well we're all entitled to our own opinions but I'm glad you like my stuff! 😅
The RAF Peace garden is a bit of a mess.
it's amazing how many "officials" ask _you_ for information about _their_ property.
"i'm contacting my leadership"
"take me to your leader?"
lol. official speak.
strange for a moment i thought that base was located on UK land - oh yes it is so who makes the rules them or us
C is for commandos i think
2:30 You can visit the peace garden, but if you tell anyone what you saw there they throw you in prison 😋
pushing it a little with auditing a US base on UK soil. i would like to see how you get on with trying to audit Area 51 😂
There was a bunch went to the gate at area 51 and filmed, nothing happened other than the guards posing and laughing.
@@roscothesecond6722 thats a lie lol
@@zcharged8294 prove it a lie, lol
@@roscothesecond6722 well you tell me the video name to search then, lol
@@zcharged8294 I have better things to do than yenta with you over this, buh-bye.
next time ask a US service person if his nation will honour their word and hand back the British base in the Indian Ocean...Diego Garcia.... i bet they won't even be able to spell it !!
These guys are Air Force not Navy. So they don't care.
oh fun! an encoded masonic memorial, very interesting
And can you decode for us as you clearly think you know. NO?
Thought not.
Ohh, you're a soured pickle aren't you 😹
@@iainstirling1475 oh dear, grumpy are you? Need some attention?😁😘
STOP means literally STOP.
Was the rabbit on the Left or right....surely thats the indicator lol...lol......
Why didn't you tell the daft yanks that you were exercising you 1st amendment rights
On sign to say not to knock down young boys and then do a runner.
What's with the dwarf? Do they allow them in the US Army? Or was it a child?
Good thing that was Air Force and not the army. Leave Sgt Ace alone please
@@aidanholt9868 ah, fits in cockpits
Can anyone tell me, what this achieves?
I think it's a public place which is not accessible so this video shows that fact.