Can we quickly address the elephant(s) in the room? (1) This ought to be a strategy game. However, I have no intel on enemy team composition until I actually encounter it. Of course, by then, my team cannot be changed anymore. Goodbye strategy, hello dumb luck. (2) Not being able to see the fights my teammates had in the log is simply stupid. I cannot learn from my teammate's mistakes to improve my performance. I cannot share intel like enemy team screenshots w/o using a second platform (e.g. Discord) as the in-game chat functions are rudimentary at best. I thought this was supposed to be a guild event? If so, please allow for team coordination, e.g. via a more comfortable in-game chat. (3) Most players decided on this game as it is slow-paced, doesn't require you to be online all the time, and only gives you a limited amount of tasks to perform each day. This event asks you to do the exact opposite of that. This is like an (arguably boring) 7-day raid in an MMORPG that requires you to be online at least most of the time for best results. Sorry Nexters, wrong player base. (4) The relation between the amount of time you have to invest in the event and the rewards you can get (especially w/o paying cash for the Golden Ticket) is abysmal.
regarding matchmaking. we got a handful of stronger players and 10 free spaces and were matched against 3 more evenly distributed guilds and they stand no chance. We put five strong players into the 32 and 8 and thats it. they never got kicked. the second place guild is very active, I get attacked 5 times a day, but no avail.
They match based upon total guild hero power it seems. But the major issue is they don't look at activity and number of players. The guilds with whales who don't log in 10x daily will lose, while the ones where people log in multiple times a day win. The other issue with total guild hero power is, a whale guild with 15 players and all teams of 1.1 million+ power will be matched against guilds with 30 players who average 550k who have no chance to win a fight against them. If you want to game this system, just make a guild before event, invite 10 active super whales, then the 30 person guilds you are up against will be 1/3 your team power. Also, my guild had the +1 billion points bug the first day. The game locked us out of all castle rewards. Then after like 2 days our castle level was adjusted to where it should be, and then we could start collecting rewards.
they are a bunch of idiots ... i told them about match making aswell..and they said in in day 6 that teams are made and they wont change....my guild had 1 x 900k and 1 x 800k ..and several lowers...was fighting enemy guild (1 of them) who had 7 of 900k-1.1mil and several lower...those wouldnt matter...i mean come on ...
You guys had it lucky. My team average power is 100k-200k vs the others 2 team of average power is 200k-400k. There was 1 whale team with 400k-700k power. How to fight? Its slaughter. Even when our team occupied the most settlement.... we cant win.
@@kimloonyong6599 how was it lucky 1 playero f 900k and 1 of 800 and the rest smalelr vs 6( i saw 6 settlements of 900k-1mil same time) + others from 1 guild...
Our guild was also SUPER dominant in our Conquest event which was nice for us but our opponents are all more than 100K behind us in castle coins. We are 100% honest guild and only 3 or 4 are active buyers of all golden tickets.
In terms of matchmaking, I don't think the problem is about how active it is, its about the powerlevel of the players. If you have high enough heropower to compete, but choose not to, or choose to do less (and it may not be a personal choice, maybe you are busy with work or whatever), you aren't mismatched. You are just less active. However, there are a lot of less powerful guilds that have been put up against big spenders/long time players, and simply do not stand a chance because they have been mismatched in powerlevel. THAT is the problem with the matchmaking. If you are powerful enough to compete, but choose not to for whatever reason, the matchmaking wasn't wrong. That would be like two top sports-teams going up against eachother, but one of them is saving its main players for a different tournament, so even though they could compete fully, they choose not to. And for a seven day event, the prizing is terrible, especially compared to the kind of events they have been making recently, like the updated hero events and LotGO. Even the hero rework or Lara Croft events, while time- and/or resource consuming, at least had both a shop AND excellent rewards. The grand prize for this event is an orange gift of the dominion, if you bought the pass. I can easily get those from CoW shop or the adventure maps, for FREE. The golden thread is less useful to F2P because we barely get any patterns to combine anyway, and for big spenders that are on red patterns, 3000 golden thread isn't even enough to re-roll the percentage on the pattern. And the pattern for 1st, 2nd and 3rd are (again) useless to big spenders. F2P players might like it, if they finish in the right position. My guild is gonna finish first, but I have zero use for the physical attack pattern! My only physical attacking heroes at the moment are my Osh-team, and I am not making a flag for that! Sorry about the rant, I just have a lot of issues with this event! I honestly prefer the cosmic event, at least I can choose my own rewards
Could not agree more about the matchmaking. We are a (mostly) F2P guild with only one 1M power team; the rest of us are in the 5-800k range. On one of our opponents, we have counted 6 of those, and for another opponent the *lowest* team we have seen from them is 850k. Big surprise, we are in 3rd place. What they need to do is narrow the bandwidth - and also include a member count as a criteria.
In this event, my guild encountered a player (from another guild) with a Hero Team of 889k power occupying the 32-Coin settlement at the center of the map from day 1 to day 7, and no other players in the entire map has any hero power close to that. The most powerful hero team from my guild is roughly 260k power. How does the match making work you ask? The answer is: I DON'T KNOW.
Having everyone play with maxed Heroes, and matching Guilds with similar activity levels (NOT from the same Server!!!) would solve a bunch of problems. 🙂
Even though I'm one of the most active players on my server and in my guild I found this event to be way too overwhelming. Shit I got stuff to do too... like play other games. HW is my "Loading Screen Game" - the game I play when my other main game is loading or playing a cutscene. I play it in 5-10 min spurts. I play it because I don't want to babysit it like I had to with other idle play games that require you to hold its hand. Digress. The event could changed into a turn-based event but that would require a rework of the system. As far as match-making being a problem well they could just max out all the teams. That way it becomes a battle of who is most active and has the best teams combined.
All good points. I'll add... 11. The automatic move feature is pointless. You can set a tile to move to, but unless you're in the room doing nothing, it doesn't actually move. If you leave the room and come back in an hour, you don't move while you're out of the room. Also, your action points don't replenish in that scenario either. 12. Auto-restore health doesn't work 13. The cost (time and/or money) vs benefit is mismatched. The prizes just aren't worth the amount of time required.
What, if U attack person in camp, and U R very good evolved than him, but U hit him for 0 damage? :D And what, if U just come back shortly and do another attack, and that enemy dies in 15s?
I thought my guild was decent, but this event has been just awful. We seem to have gotten stuck with three guilds with unbeatable teams and they just wipe the floor with us. Also, there is some strange bug which makes it impossible to accumulate coins offline. I've been holding a castle and accumulating nicely. Log off and come back to zero superior coin. This has happened many times. Can't possibly be getting kicked out of castle immediately every time.
this may be a hot take but if this were a permanent addition to the game i could get behind that - like it just shuffles teams every week and resets, like i get a lot of people want to skip the game (which is ironically 100% of the content) but to those actually playing it rewarding a little consistency would go a long way.. my guild was easily 3rd place in this matchup but the strongest team ended up 3rd and the most well rounded team is 50k below us, we're just dogging it that hard when most of their carries don't actually play : / 🛡⚔🛡
Another bug was some people were locked out of it on day 2 & 3. I logged in on day 1 done my stuff, went to log back into it on day 2 and couldn't, took until I logged in on day 4 to be able to play it. I'm also the GL of the guild and one of the strongest, and generally one of the most active. so couldn't help my guild do anything, lost probably 10+k coins because of it.
Aside from bugs and reward issues. It discriminates against people who doesn't log on a lot. It also doesn't encourage participation by lower ranked players in a guild as they'll just be swatted around. Clash of World is better in terms of the above but is exclusive to Silver guilds and above.
All they have to do is like Christmas event, how they reset guilds that abused the system...at the end reset them and allow the fair players the top rewards...simple.. I'd say 4 to 5 days max would be perfect....part of the problem this time is it was new, never seen, it too a day just to figure out best strategies etc..next time people will be better prepared
Seven days is way too long for this event! I was burned out on the event by the fifth day, and I'm going to be completely burned out on the game by the time the event is over. Having the event open this long is also causing issues with the server, causing the refresh and rubberbanding issues on the map.
For us, it's back and forth between us and the other top team for 1st and 2nd place every few hours. The other 2 teams don't stand a chance though. In fact when a few of us are bored, we just go over to their castle and take turns killing them for extra coins
We have a completely dead guild with no active players in our battle. The other guilds have much stronger teams than we do, but we're doing okay since the other guilds are shorthanded and we have a bunch of weak teams to spread out on settlements along the edges.
So, before I actually listen to the video, here are my reasons that the Area of Conquest was a poor choice of event creation. 1) Bugs. Bugs bugs bugs. TODAY I finally received all rewards for current castle level. I did not receive ANY rewards above level 1 until THREE DAYS IN. One of the guilds in our competition received almost 800,000 of the event points during the first few hours of the game through Emerald usage (which was corrected, showing it was due to a math error). This along with other bugs reports that they have admitted were ongoing issues shows that the coding was not completed at all when they set this event up. 2) An Emerald Sink. It is designed to flush emeralds straight down to ensure that your guild hits the desired Level 19/20 so that they receive all unique rewards. Unless you have a particularly strong performance, level 19 may be difficult to achieve. 3) It is very close to a "Pay to Play" rather than a pay to win, due to the Emerald Sink.... but 2 + 3 would be understandable, were it not for 4... 4) The rewards are WELL BELOW what would be expected for an event of this nature. An inordinate number of event rewards are event-only items that enable someone to perform better briefly during the event. The majority are gatcha boxes that have normal quantities of low level constantly used items (No higher than green crystals and blue insignias). There are n particularly unusual items, making them not even as good as seasonal end items. They're not intrinsically that much better, other than greater quantities, than a Boxy Box or Platinum Box. So, the bulk of rewards are just daily rewards, making the only actual unique rewards be $25 USD for a Gold Gift of Dominion orb, along with a purple, two blues and two greens. So, in essence? It's $25 to pay for what you could probably already get for an arguably comparable effort at the Rarity Fair. I haven't got the means to easily verify the math, but while I think the combined gifts of dominion almost certainly amount to the roughly 80k emerald value of the $25 USD golden ticket, but if we compare the purported value of the Golden Ticket for a Season (6500 emerald/$1 USD) to this ($3200 emerald/$1 USD), the value of this golden ticket is, by their estimation, half as valuable as the Season, for a pay to play event whose rewards are bog standard every day returns. It's frankly a laughable return on investment for the amount of effort put in. 5) It's a time-waster. A literal time-waster. The amount of additional time spent on the game to play this does net an increase in standard daily returns, but it causes active involvement in the game to reach close to Raid: Shadow Legends levels (and my sole complaint with that game is that playing it actually takes too much time out of my day.). It coerces the players to remain longer on the game, when by all accounts the rewards just aren't there to justify it. Ostensibly, one would assume that the intent here is to increase the likelihood people will pay actual money in frustration to get more, but that would only work in my mind if the rewards were worth the effort. And I just can't see myself having spent the money on this event... 2 years ago. When I might have gotten benefit from this. It is an event where whales will excel, which offers nothing for whales to bother other than the principle of beating up non-whale guilds and feel better about themselves for a meaningless victory. 6) It honestly causes stress for guild leaders who now have to manage this along with CoW and GW for all the reasons associated with 5. But this is something that will vary from guild to guild. I simply have to convince my generals to stop worrying about this event next time. I don't see any reason to bother. 7) I'd add that it's a bad derivative of their map exploration quests, but really? I don't think I need to.
The additional issues that you mentioned are definitely further problems with the event. Some are simple fixes. One, matchmaking, is essentially an impossible problem and entirely unpredictable as to when and where it will fairly be implemented. It is also literally impossible to tell whether or not opposing guilds are abusing the cheap cheat to get points, making the effort for the final reward almost meaningless to pursue. Overall, the gameplay is problematic for phones. The gameplay favors people who play the game 24/7 and causes friction in guilds. The rewards are not particularly valuable and the return on investment is 50% or less of similar returns on investment for paid events and tickets. The event is saturated with bugs in implementation that break the event entirely. It's just a bad event, and I was bored with it on day 2, and I've been wanting it done and out of my guild's collective life since day 3. And I also find it funny that Area 51 is basically unable to get past 4th against you. I vaguely know of that guild by reputation. They're a power-house guild, but I suspect they probably just didn't care about the event because most if not all of their members gain next to nothing by victory and so they haven't put in the effort to stand a serious chance.
We are the number 2 Tribe on our server. Mostly 6 of us are Top 10 Arena. But the other Guilds have much stronger Teams. We only lead, cause some of us are playing 24/7
My first thought for matchmaking was to match guilds based on how they performed in this event, but the guilds will change. Some will grow faster than others, some will lose top players who decide they are tired of the game, etc. My guild got off to a slow start due to availability when the event started and we could never make a dent in the lead 1st place took in that early period. We are dominantly in 2nd place, but just can't overcome the gap the slow start created. If the guilds are really approximately equal then a longer event does not change the ability to come back from bad timing for the start. You can only come back if you are clearly better.
It's annoying that they would release an obviously untested game mode on a Friday. Should have been a Monday release and a 3 day event as an initial test of the event on live.
There are people bragging they have millions of skins stones with all characters maxed. And they are VIP lvl 1 VIP lvl 5... one person had a screen shot of 1 millions skins stones and 4 million + Outland coins. So the resources that the "bug abusers got" are game breaking IMHO. Yes, just because you have maxed characters doesn't mean you "understand" the game to play and be a top guild. But have the resources to begin with is invaluable.
You can't tell me that they can't roll back those accounts... I knew one guy who "didn't know there was bug" on Gift of Elements Sparks... (reseting gave you more sparks than you originally spent) So he had nearly every character maxed... they rolled him back with a penalty of no gold returned for upgrading. So they can do it... will they choose to?
You know it is bad when they give you a generic response when you try to submit a ticket Too many bugs Too many issues One I will mention, our guild lost 10000's of coins, they were actually going backwards even though we held 10 Settlements and for a period the 32 point settlement. At the time we were side by side with the other guild for top place, by the time we started gaining coins again they were off in the distance They should supply everyone with the top prize as a goodwill gesture
We have same problem max power player in guild is 550k all enemys have 740 k, or 950k and not one but we have second place because we all are ultra active but no chance to get 1 place strongest player sit all time middle
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Can we quickly address the elephant(s) in the room?
(1) This ought to be a strategy game. However, I have no intel on enemy team composition until I actually encounter it. Of course, by then, my team cannot be changed anymore. Goodbye strategy, hello dumb luck.
(2) Not being able to see the fights my teammates had in the log is simply stupid. I cannot learn from my teammate's mistakes to improve my performance. I cannot share intel like enemy team screenshots w/o using a second platform (e.g. Discord) as the in-game chat functions are rudimentary at best. I thought this was supposed to be a guild event? If so, please allow for team coordination, e.g. via a more comfortable in-game chat.
(3) Most players decided on this game as it is slow-paced, doesn't require you to be online all the time, and only gives you a limited amount of tasks to perform each day. This event asks you to do the exact opposite of that. This is like an (arguably boring) 7-day raid in an MMORPG that requires you to be online at least most of the time for best results. Sorry Nexters, wrong player base.
(4) The relation between the amount of time you have to invest in the event and the rewards you can get (especially w/o paying cash for the Golden Ticket) is abysmal.
its typical greedy developers, they want the money they dont care about making quality fun game. this is a product
Also, another bug you missed is that the automatic healing (hour glass above your team on map) doesn't work.
regarding matchmaking. we got a handful of stronger players and 10 free spaces and were matched against 3 more evenly distributed guilds and they stand no chance. We put five strong players into the 32 and 8 and thats it. they never got kicked. the second place guild is very active, I get attacked 5 times a day, but no avail.
They match based upon total guild hero power it seems. But the major issue is they don't look at activity and number of players. The guilds with whales who don't log in 10x daily will lose, while the ones where people log in multiple times a day win. The other issue with total guild hero power is, a whale guild with 15 players and all teams of 1.1 million+ power will be matched against guilds with 30 players who average 550k who have no chance to win a fight against them. If you want to game this system, just make a guild before event, invite 10 active super whales, then the 30 person guilds you are up against will be 1/3 your team power.
Also, my guild had the +1 billion points bug the first day. The game locked us out of all castle rewards. Then after like 2 days our castle level was adjusted to where it should be, and then we could start collecting rewards.
they are a bunch of idiots ... i told them about match making aswell..and they said in in day 6 that teams are made and they wont change....my guild had 1 x 900k and 1 x 800k ..and several lowers...was fighting enemy guild (1 of them) who had 7 of 900k-1.1mil and several lower...those wouldnt matter...i mean come on ...
You guys had it lucky. My team average power is 100k-200k vs the others 2 team of average power is 200k-400k. There was 1 whale team with 400k-700k power. How to fight? Its slaughter. Even when our team occupied the most settlement.... we cant win.
@@kimloonyong6599 how was it lucky 1 playero f 900k and 1 of 800 and the rest smalelr vs 6( i saw 6 settlements of 900k-1mil same time) + others from 1 guild...
The amount of time spent and the prizes awarded are not that great. Prize needed to be better if going to be 7 days.
Completely agree. I am failing to understand the reward for the effort.
Very true! The awards are so lame. Not worth wasting time on it
Bugs of Conquest was the original working name for this event
that was very annoying at first, but it seems to have been fixed.
sadly EVEN the BUGS OF CONQUEST title was BUGGED and shows as AREA OF CONQUEST.
Our guild was also SUPER dominant in our Conquest event which was nice for us but our opponents are all more than 100K behind us in castle coins. We are 100% honest guild and only 3 or 4 are active buyers of all golden tickets.
my guild got our castle to level 23 and we are very active player we call out moves to make and we are in 1st place
In terms of matchmaking, I don't think the problem is about how active it is, its about the powerlevel of the players. If you have high enough heropower to compete, but choose not to, or choose to do less (and it may not be a personal choice, maybe you are busy with work or whatever), you aren't mismatched. You are just less active. However, there are a lot of less powerful guilds that have been put up against big spenders/long time players, and simply do not stand a chance because they have been mismatched in powerlevel. THAT is the problem with the matchmaking. If you are powerful enough to compete, but choose not to for whatever reason, the matchmaking wasn't wrong. That would be like two top sports-teams going up against eachother, but one of them is saving its main players for a different tournament, so even though they could compete fully, they choose not to. And for a seven day event, the prizing is terrible, especially compared to the kind of events they have been making recently, like the updated hero events and LotGO. Even the hero rework or Lara Croft events, while time- and/or resource consuming, at least had both a shop AND excellent rewards. The grand prize for this event is an orange gift of the dominion, if you bought the pass. I can easily get those from CoW shop or the adventure maps, for FREE. The golden thread is less useful to F2P because we barely get any patterns to combine anyway, and for big spenders that are on red patterns, 3000 golden thread isn't even enough to re-roll the percentage on the pattern. And the pattern for 1st, 2nd and 3rd are (again) useless to big spenders. F2P players might like it, if they finish in the right position. My guild is gonna finish first, but I have zero use for the physical attack pattern! My only physical attacking heroes at the moment are my Osh-team, and I am not making a flag for that!
Sorry about the rant, I just have a lot of issues with this event! I honestly prefer the cosmic event, at least I can choose my own rewards
Could not agree more about the matchmaking. We are a (mostly) F2P guild with only one 1M power team; the rest of us are in the 5-800k range. On one of our opponents, we have counted 6 of those, and for another opponent the *lowest* team we have seen from them is 850k. Big surprise, we are in 3rd place. What they need to do is narrow the bandwidth - and also include a member count as a criteria.
one day is enough .. sorry My guild players prefer to sleep at night
In this event, my guild encountered a player (from another guild) with a Hero Team of 889k power occupying the 32-Coin settlement at the center of the map from day 1 to day 7, and no other players in the entire map has any hero power close to that. The most powerful hero team from my guild is roughly 260k power. How does the match making work you ask? The answer is: I DON'T KNOW.
Having everyone play with maxed Heroes, and matching Guilds with similar activity levels (NOT from the same Server!!!) would solve a bunch of problems. 🙂
Even though I'm one of the most active players on my server and in my guild I found this event to be way too overwhelming. Shit I got stuff to do too... like play other games. HW is my "Loading Screen Game" - the game I play when my other main game is loading or playing a cutscene. I play it in 5-10 min spurts. I play it because I don't want to babysit it like I had to with other idle play games that require you to hold its hand. Digress. The event could changed into a turn-based event but that would require a rework of the system. As far as match-making being a problem well they could just max out all the teams. That way it becomes a battle of who is most active and has the best teams combined.
All good points. I'll add...
11. The automatic move feature is pointless. You can set a tile to move to, but unless you're in the room doing nothing, it doesn't actually move. If you leave the room and come back in an hour, you don't move while you're out of the room. Also, your action points don't replenish in that scenario either.
12. Auto-restore health doesn't work
13. The cost (time and/or money) vs benefit is mismatched. The prizes just aren't worth the amount of time required.
What, if U attack person in camp, and U R very good evolved than him, but U hit him for 0 damage? :D And what, if U just come back shortly and do another attack, and that enemy dies in 15s?
I thought my guild was decent, but this event has been just awful. We seem to have gotten stuck with three guilds with unbeatable teams and they just wipe the floor with us. Also, there is some strange bug which makes it impossible to accumulate coins offline. I've been holding a castle and accumulating nicely. Log off and come back to zero superior coin. This has happened many times. Can't possibly be getting kicked out of castle immediately every time.
this may be a hot take but if this were a permanent addition to the game i could get behind that - like it just shuffles teams every week and resets, like i get a lot of people want to skip the game (which is ironically 100% of the content) but to those actually playing it rewarding a little consistency would go a long way.. my guild was easily 3rd place in this matchup but the strongest team ended up 3rd and the most well rounded team is 50k below us, we're just dogging it that hard when most of their carries don't actually play : /
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Another bug was some people were locked out of it on day 2 & 3. I logged in on day 1 done my stuff, went to log back into it on day 2 and couldn't, took until I logged in on day 4 to be able to play it. I'm also the GL of the guild and one of the strongest, and generally one of the most active. so couldn't help my guild do anything, lost probably 10+k coins because of it.
Aside from bugs and reward issues. It discriminates against people who doesn't log on a lot. It also doesn't encourage participation by lower ranked players in a guild as they'll just be swatted around. Clash of World is better in terms of the above but is exclusive to Silver guilds and above.
All they have to do is like Christmas event, how they reset guilds that abused the system...at the end reset them and allow the fair players the top rewards...simple..
I'd say 4 to 5 days max would be perfect....part of the problem this time is it was new, never seen, it too a day just to figure out best strategies etc..next time people will be better prepared
Seven days is way too long for this event! I was burned out on the event by the fifth day, and I'm going to be completely burned out on the game by the time the event is over.
Having the event open this long is also causing issues with the server, causing the refresh and rubberbanding issues on the map.
For us, it's back and forth between us and the other top team for 1st and 2nd place every few hours. The other 2 teams don't stand a chance though. In fact when a few of us are bored, we just go over to their castle and take turns killing them for extra coins
We have a completely dead guild with no active players in our battle. The other guilds have much stronger teams than we do, but we're doing okay since the other guilds are shorthanded and we have a bunch of weak teams to spread out on settlements along the edges.
its sux..don't waste resources on it..cosmic brawl is even worse..don't waste your time
So, before I actually listen to the video, here are my reasons that the Area of Conquest was a poor choice of event creation.
1) Bugs. Bugs bugs bugs. TODAY I finally received all rewards for current castle level. I did not receive ANY rewards above level 1 until THREE DAYS IN. One of the guilds in our competition received almost 800,000 of the event points during the first few hours of the game through Emerald usage (which was corrected, showing it was due to a math error). This along with other bugs reports that they have admitted were ongoing issues shows that the coding was not completed at all when they set this event up.
2) An Emerald Sink. It is designed to flush emeralds straight down to ensure that your guild hits the desired Level 19/20 so that they receive all unique rewards. Unless you have a particularly strong performance, level 19 may be difficult to achieve.
3) It is very close to a "Pay to Play" rather than a pay to win, due to the Emerald Sink.... but 2 + 3 would be understandable, were it not for 4...
4) The rewards are WELL BELOW what would be expected for an event of this nature. An inordinate number of event rewards are event-only items that enable someone to perform better briefly during the event. The majority are gatcha boxes that have normal quantities of low level constantly used items (No higher than green crystals and blue insignias). There are n particularly unusual items, making them not even as good as seasonal end items. They're not intrinsically that much better, other than greater quantities, than a Boxy Box or Platinum Box. So, the bulk of rewards are just daily rewards, making the only actual unique rewards be $25 USD for a Gold Gift of Dominion orb, along with a purple, two blues and two greens. So, in essence? It's $25 to pay for what you could probably already get for an arguably comparable effort at the Rarity Fair.
I haven't got the means to easily verify the math, but while I think the combined gifts of dominion almost certainly amount to the roughly 80k emerald value of the $25 USD golden ticket, but if we compare the purported value of the Golden Ticket for a Season (6500 emerald/$1 USD) to this ($3200 emerald/$1 USD), the value of this golden ticket is, by their estimation, half as valuable as the Season, for a pay to play event whose rewards are bog standard every day returns. It's frankly a laughable return on investment for the amount of effort put in.
5) It's a time-waster. A literal time-waster. The amount of additional time spent on the game to play this does net an increase in standard daily returns, but it causes active involvement in the game to reach close to Raid: Shadow Legends levels (and my sole complaint with that game is that playing it actually takes too much time out of my day.). It coerces the players to remain longer on the game, when by all accounts the rewards just aren't there to justify it.
Ostensibly, one would assume that the intent here is to increase the likelihood people will pay actual money in frustration to get more, but that would only work in my mind if the rewards were worth the effort. And I just can't see myself having spent the money on this event... 2 years ago. When I might have gotten benefit from this. It is an event where whales will excel, which offers nothing for whales to bother other than the principle of beating up non-whale guilds and feel better about themselves for a meaningless victory.
6) It honestly causes stress for guild leaders who now have to manage this along with CoW and GW for all the reasons associated with 5. But this is something that will vary from guild to guild. I simply have to convince my generals to stop worrying about this event next time. I don't see any reason to bother.
7) I'd add that it's a bad derivative of their map exploration quests, but really? I don't think I need to.
The additional issues that you mentioned are definitely further problems with the event. Some are simple fixes. One, matchmaking, is essentially an impossible problem and entirely unpredictable as to when and where it will fairly be implemented. It is also literally impossible to tell whether or not opposing guilds are abusing the cheap cheat to get points, making the effort for the final reward almost meaningless to pursue.
Overall, the gameplay is problematic for phones. The gameplay favors people who play the game 24/7 and causes friction in guilds. The rewards are not particularly valuable and the return on investment is 50% or less of similar returns on investment for paid events and tickets. The event is saturated with bugs in implementation that break the event entirely.
It's just a bad event, and I was bored with it on day 2, and I've been wanting it done and out of my guild's collective life since day 3.
And I also find it funny that Area 51 is basically unable to get past 4th against you. I vaguely know of that guild by reputation. They're a power-house guild, but I suspect they probably just didn't care about the event because most if not all of their members gain next to nothing by victory and so they haven't put in the effort to stand a serious chance.
you self are too long, when there is no event like this. its like game is sleep mode
A51 has members that no longer play
I sat on 32 for over 24hrs NO pay !
this event need to be 3 days max.
We are the number 2 Tribe on our server. Mostly 6 of us are Top 10 Arena. But the other Guilds have much stronger Teams.
We only lead, cause some of us are playing 24/7
I have no idea on this game.
Yes, 7 Days is too long.
It will just make the smaller guild give up finally. Seeing 10 just camping in base is too frustrating to continue even trying.
So boring, too. UGH.
My first thought for matchmaking was to match guilds based on how they performed in this event, but the guilds will change. Some will grow faster than others, some will lose top players who decide they are tired of the game, etc.
My guild got off to a slow start due to availability when the event started and we could never make a dent in the lead 1st place took in that early period. We are dominantly in 2nd place, but just can't overcome the gap the slow start created. If the guilds are really approximately equal then a longer event does not change the ability to come back from bad timing for the start. You can only come back if you are clearly better.
It's annoying that they would release an obviously untested game mode on a Friday. Should have been a Monday release and a 3 day event as an initial test of the event on live.
I had the bug first day i logged in and had 12.5 millions, next day it was fixed how the hell did it happen i didnt do anything.
can not move around from day 1 and probably not the only one of the guild that can not, just now i find out it can be the server i use
32 -centre ! Everybody know what it is !
There needs a to be a grid x,y for coordination, glad you said it
thx Charlie
Lol How much stuff some players get with the bug/cheat? Great event if youre in it…
7000 castle is like 100k chests?
There are people bragging they have millions of skins stones with all characters maxed. And they are VIP lvl 1 VIP lvl 5... one person had a screen shot of 1 millions skins stones and 4 million + Outland coins. So the resources that the "bug abusers got" are game breaking IMHO. Yes, just because you have maxed characters doesn't mean you "understand" the game to play and be a top guild. But have the resources to begin with is invaluable.
@@WoWGorchuk yes this event killed the game of true. Thats like a lot of $$$
You can't tell me that they can't roll back those accounts... I knew one guy who "didn't know there was bug" on Gift of Elements Sparks... (reseting gave you more sparks than you originally spent) So he had nearly every character maxed... they rolled him back with a penalty of no gold returned for upgrading. So they can do it... will they choose to?
It’s overall a bad event. It’s like bad monopoly. Go back and start again. Terrible prizes.
You know it is bad when they give you a generic response when you try to submit a ticket
Too many bugs
Too many issues
One I will mention, our guild lost 10000's of coins, they were actually going backwards even though we held 10 Settlements and for a period the 32 point settlement. At the time we were side by side with the other guild for top place, by the time we started gaining coins again they were off in the distance
They should supply everyone with the top prize as a goodwill gesture
Make it like Risk, where your guild has to beat all the teams in a held area to take that area.
Don't abuse a bug! Bugs are people too...wait...no they're not. They're bugs. NVM...
It punishes those active players who contribute most to upgrade the castle.
We have same problem max power player in guild is 550k all enemys have 740 k, or 950k and not one but we have second place because we all are ultra active but no chance to get 1 place strongest player sit all time middle
they already fix castle level reward path