back in the mid-80's, as a young engineer at McDonnell Douglas in the flight simulator group, I saw that they had a cockpit mocked up as the "cockpit of the future". It was a big screen, with all of the radar, nav, comm, etc., info all merged into one big display. This was when the F-18 was still new and the glass cockpit was evolving. They certainly knew where they wanted technology to go, but the display technology and processing power still needed a lot of development.
After a very long delay, for political reasons, Canada has finally ordered F-35’s. It will be several years before the initial deliveries but that may ensure we get models that are more advanced and give the RCAF time to upgrade its facilities and support systems and personnel to be ready for the new platform.
As much as the F-35 project has been an example of how not to run a development and construction project. The stuff developed really shows just how much of a leap has been taken. From memory the only other aircraft currently coming close to this level of sensor fusion and avionics as a platform is the Rafale. The video also shows why so many other manufacturers, military and civilian, are putting so much into developing system platforms to more easily support integration of functional modules. Oh, and as a side note. Just think of how crazy advanced what was shown was. Then put it in the context that this is the stuff they're publicly showing.
I knew it! I was at AirPower24 and they had 4 USAF F-35 (maintenance crew said), one was on display and one was flying, 2 in a reserved hangar. Surely they were there to do more stuff behind closed doors. I’m jealous as I only managed to sit in the Gripen mockup
What I’m most impressed is how automated everything is it’s truly like playing a video game. One thing I wish you could ask is how has this impacted training I would love detail video about what parts of training f35 pilots vs legacy aircraft pilots get Easier and harder what unique challenges or skills each pilot has when training in the f35 and weather the access of flight simulators like DCS or Microsoft flight simulator has any long term impacts on training future pilots when aircraft become more digital each year. Love to ask these questions
That’s really incredible. My dad was a P51D fighter pilot in WW2. I wish he could have been here to see the latest and best fighter planes of today. I wonder what he would have thought about these planes.
It's interesting to see how the displays have changed since the pre-production days. Unfortunately I don't remember the actual displays in the sim down in Fort Worth all that well, but I'm pretty sure the displays were smaller and configured differently. But it was many years ago, and I didn't see them in situ for that long.
honest question: aren't those touchscreens difficult to operate when there are g-forces and vibration involved? i always have a hell of a time operating touchscreens in the car, while buttons usuially work much better for me.
Whether it's my phone, the ATM, my tablet, or something else, I often have trouble getting touchscreens to register my presses correctly. Sometimes the button on the screen even flashes to indicate that the machine knows I pressed it, but for some reason my press wasn't up to its standards, so it does nothing.
@@jeffbangle4710 The screens in the F35 (actually all modern aircraft touch screens) work on a different principle than phones/tablets. While normal phone screens detect the heat from your fingertip, the F35 screens are covered with an invisible grid of laser beams and sensors. When a pilot presses on the F35 screen, his fingertip interrupts some of the laser beams and the touch location is determined based on which beams were interrupted. These screens are less likely to not register a touch and also allow pilots to operate them while wearing gloves.
For all the trouble that went into it, there is no denying that this capability is truly breathtaking in how powerful it is when it all comes together. Sci-Fi like. Many thanks to Lockheed for allowing us to see how this all works.
Thank you so much Lockheed Martin for allowing Chris to show us the F35 flight simulator. It's near to see just how far we've come in flight technology. :)
We worked hard AF to make it simple. In the early days pilots kept trying to get us to put buttons and switches back in the jet. Some systems did earn their way back into the jet, you can see the center console has some knobs and a few dedicated displays. For the most part though, the increase in speed and efficiency is just too good to pass up.
Thanks Lockheed, that was cool. Not worth buying 88- level of cool, but still cool. Now show us what the pilot sees from inside the helmet, show me the AugReality!!!!! Lockheed, do it. Or else I won't revive the xm808 program. You've been warned.
The airplane is ok, the project management needs improvement. Supposedly uses Just in time for spare parts, which is good for a family car but not for a warplane.
Fantastic material. I love old steam gauges just the same I appreciate these modern screens. F-35 is next-level stuff widely availalbe - there is no comparison for that. Thanks to all of you, Chris and all the hosts. Absolutely mind blowing information!
lockheed martin basically take a look at air combat in gaming/video games, and observe that in games, the "workflow" of the pilot(the players) is faster and easier. what makes it so? they found it is the simplified manner of informations and access to all systems for the players. only the necessary being shown and everything ready at a touch of a button. and so they brought that approach to the F35. and its correct move to do.
With touchscreens, I always ask myself how easy they are to use when the airplane is moving. My only refrence are the touchscreens in my car and how i'd struggle to enter a new destination into the GPS while going even 50 km/h. Does a F35 run more smoothly than a car? Quality of the touchscreens used? Or just GUI-design, i.e. a pilot does not have to enter a string of numbers and letters but just always pushes a button to change the screen, look at information and data-entry is done via the buttons on throttle and stick? Besides that, very cool opportunity! The HUD telling the pilot the relevant times of missile flight, what angle best used for attacks, what the own signature is likely to look...all stuff that makes it seem almost idiot-proof. I wonder what would be the next step.
You struggle because you are staring at the road. F35 pilot will be staring at the screen most of the time. If you get into situation where you need to stare at your surrounding, then all the necessary control are on your stick and are physical. The gui is the same as any other fighter with mfd. The data entry keypad is touch screen and will take up about 1/4 of the screen when you need it. You can select it via one of the top/side on screen button. Im of the opinion that the keypad should still have a physical backup. The dispaly itself is just your standard mfd, but slightly bigger. The actual touch screen mechanism is independent of the display. It is a ir grid touch screen system.
Loved how the video is edited with real-life footage, it's a nice touch! Question: Is the "stealth domain" something pilots now have to train in? What effect does it have on maneuvering?
As I watch this, I see that the man-in-the-box does battle data management and weapons delivery. All air-to-air combat depicted was BVR. I do not understand why we need the man-in-the-box. Why not pull the pilot and add fuel? Put the operator behind in an E-7 and split the flying from the targeting and weapons delivery functions. Make the F35 an RPV.
Jesus! Systems training on one of these must be a real challenge. Executing all this while flying a fast jet in a combat zone must take a mountain of training time.
That is true of any fast jet. Switchology we call it. Thing is that same time investment gets you a smaller return on older jets. If you saw Top Gun Maverick, you saw pilots having to manually track a target. In F-35 you tell the plane you are interested in something ... and that's it. It manages all the different sensors to give you the best picture of that subject of interest. It also automatically asks the other planes in your flight to take a look. It's hard to describe. Let's just say I am pretty sure Formula 1 would make it illegal because it makes the task a lot easier.
Once you locked a target, the enemy gets a warning in the cockpit and even the direction of the enemy radar . He knows the missile is in the air . You can’t tell me they didn’t know what hit them.
I'd imagine a pilot could use HOTAS controls rather than touch screen, right? One thing I don't like about touch screens for something like that, or driving a car, is that you have to look at what your touching, essentially. So, sometimes a touch screen makes things harder, but that's where a HOTAS comes in. It might also be worth mentioning that there's a - not sure the terminology - lip switch in videos like this. I only know this from watching videos of F-35 pilots talk about this, but there's a little joystick thing in the oxygen mask that can also be used. For pilots it probably feels so obvious that it isn't worth mentioning, but the general public probably doesn't know that that's a thing. One thing maybe worth brining up is - it might make some people uncomfortable - but "piddle packs." It's a real consideration for long missions, like in the Pacific. Apparently, there's a system, and it can accommodate female pilots too.
If you are slinging missile at bvr range, you rely on your screen. If you are acting like a pseudo local awacs, you rely on your screen. If you are hitting ground target, you rely on your screen. If you are doing dog fighting, you will turn on the see through view, the only control that matters is on the sticks.
I'm wondering how easy it is to use those touch displays, when you're wearing a helmet and layers of gloves. Some of the UI looked quite finnicky, with very small tappable areas. In particular, target selection and zooming -- even with the stick controls -- seemed pretty finnicky. As for the rest though, wow. Great video. Thanks.!
Honestly a lot of that will come down to training and familiarity. The trained pilots will be flicking through all those menus and options just like an experienced IT person can fly through various commands on a text terminal. It's also worth noting a lot of the touchscreen only stuff will be for periods of the mission when you have the time to reach out and touch things. All the stuff you'll need when throwing the plane about will be accessed via the HOTAS or even voice commands.
Fascinating insight, thank you, and well managed by Lockheed Martin too. Your content and credentials are evolving nicely. Mit freundlichen Grüßen from Lindau Bodensee.
I'm surprised about the customisations, I'd have thought standardisation would be a benefit. Are the customisations transportable? Stored in the helmet? The pilot has a settings USB key? Cloud storage?
Touchscreen versus touchscreen with buttons, one F-35 pilot, I think it was a testpilot, preferred to have buttons also as it i better in some situations?
From an avionics perspective, everyone is converging toward the same point. So you can easily call this a stealthy rafale/gripen/ef/f16/f15/whatever. The block 4 update shitshow is not s rumors, it is a publicized issue.
Question: how does it feel to use a touch screen in a fighter? How good is the tactile feedback system in it? Based on my daily life experience, ATMs and EPOS systems in shops I find to feel kinda weird when they have touch screens because it feels very detached from the device. Is the experience similar with such a cockpit or does it take adjusting to?
My question is don't the touchscreen button lose the pilot a of the tactile feedback of physical ones? How are pilots supposed to do things while also keeping their eyes on others with the touchscreen?
They don't need tactile feedback. The pilot looks in to interact with the screen, in the same way I'd look in to press a soft key on a conventional screen, to ensure I was pressing the right thing to show the info I wanted.
Your eye will be on the screen 99% of the time anyways. If you are doing close quarter combat that required your attention elsewhere, your are not operating the screen regardless.
Some of the controls were operated by tactile buttons (zooming, slewing cursor, etc). For crucial operations that pilots need access to, they have them on the stick itself it looks like, so you don't even need to take your hand off. But some operations don't really even need a separate physical knob or control. I double people want to memorize which small knob controls the salvo number when they could just adjust it in a clearly label sub menu.
It's sensor can help other planes target shahed easier and it would be difficult for the 127 to target it before the f35 releases its payload of missiles or storm breakers internally
iirc the electric energy output required would be practically impossible to put on an enemy aircraft (much less being hidden while using it) and a ground based unit would be fairly vulnerable
@@forzaelite1248 believe it or not, multiple countries already have a weapon that has the energy to act as an EMP, and some are even small enough that most 4th gen multirole fighters can carry them. Of course, there's the teeny, tiny, catch that this energy doesn't come in the form of a continuous stream of electrical output, but instead a huge burst of nuclear energy from AN ATOMIC BOMB. Minor, nitpicky details, really.
@@lardthing7417 Yeah lol i wasn't sure i'd heard the statistic correctly the last time but that's the problem xD Ironically enough, the F-35 can carry those too
@@-NiEr they allow for additional capabilities when stealth is not as important. You probably don't want to use them for SEAD, but if you're operating in a COIN environment, you may want the additional payload capacity.
Well obviously they can carry large bombs and missiles internally however not all weapons can fit inside and not all missions require stealth. Once air superiority is achieved you can load it up with whatever you want. Keep in mind there will be thousands of these it doesn't make sense to limit them to only stealth
@@shaunwu3910 Most F-35s I've seen lately, are equipped with pylons made in Norway. Is it to be able to use the original long Meteor missiles that won't fit in the internal bays? - And would not having both an internal and external load exceed the max payload?
Some of the missiles are carried internally; for missions that don't require stealth it can carry a much larger payload allowing it to be used for low and high threat environments. There's an advantage to having F-35 "missile trucks" so to speak because of the sensor data the F-35 can fuse and share with each other and other assets but it wouldn't be the best use of them. Then again, if it's the only aircraft your fleet has as is the case for several countries, it gives plenty of options. The external AIM-9s also don't really harm its stealth enough to make a difference as I'm told by several people close to the program and some public simulations. It's a matter of designing for RCS reduction; external carry doesn't automatically mean stealth gone for both the F-35 and the F22
As you asked for questions: What are the reasons for recent US fighter aircraft to have sidesticks (F-22, F-35, T-7A) instead of centersticks (F-15, F-18, F-14)? F-16 is an exception...
Sidesticks are more ergonomic and take up less space in the cockpit. Older aircraft have center sticks for two reasons: They have very few switches and inputs on the stick and throttle itself (not HOTAS), most of them are distributed around the cockpit, so the pilot had to use both hands to operate them, easier with a center stick as you can hold it with the other hand. The most important thing is fly by wire. Traditional aircraft up to the F-15 and F/A-18 had hydraulic and or mechanical controls, they were boosted by hydraulics to reduce the forces, but as a backup the pilot could still move the control surfaces by moving the stick. In case the servo systems fail, the forces required are quite large, they a long lever to overcome. Long throw sticks can only be center mounted. The F-16 is the first full fly by wire fighter jet, there is no physical connection between stick and control surfaces. The aircraft is also slightly unstable in pitch, a human pilot can not react fast and accurate enough to control the aircraft, the pilots inputs need to be translated by the flight control system wich then adjusts the surfaces at a high frequency to make the aircraft do what the pilot wants. If the system fails, the aircraft is uncontrollable, there will be no large forces to overcome, may as well use a side stick then.
Potential issue with that display is clear lack of physical feedback and sluggishness of the screen (as processor/GPU degrades over time). I know they are not as bad as car smart screen but having sluggishness appear mid combat could be dangerous. What measures have they made to prevent it?
If you are in a2g mode, im not sure this is any more sluggish than conventional system with a multiple mfd. If you are in a2a mode, then you are not messing with the display anyways. As far as sluggishness due to age. They can just swap it out if it starts to show? There are several interesting solution to tactile feedback on touchscreen. Motor behind the screen and resistance glove.
Honestly, with how fast modern displays react, barely being in the double-digit millisecond range even years later, I doubt this is an actual problem. If you wanna talk about bad display response, look at some of Russia's tank touch screens. Don't really see that in allot of modern aviation, and especially fighter aviation. Doubt it will actually be a problem
@@Registered_Simp It wasn't quite the displays to my knowledge but earlier on the helmets actually had rasterization issues that caused headaches and such; don't quite remember what caused it but it's definitely using more modern tech at this point
@@jintsuubest9331 i guess they could replace parts once sluggishness starts to show. Likely their parts have no signs of planned obsolescence so they last longer (unlike publicly available parts)
back in the mid-80's, as a young engineer at McDonnell Douglas in the flight simulator group, I saw that they had a cockpit mocked up as the "cockpit of the future". It was a big screen, with all of the radar, nav, comm, etc., info all merged into one big display. This was when the F-18 was still new and the glass cockpit was evolving. They certainly knew where they wanted technology to go, but the display technology and processing power still needed a lot of development.
Interesting that it looks like they haven't updated the fonts since then, all the text still reminds me of playing a game of Battlezone.
@@moosemaimer They are easy to read. That is all that matters.
Wow! I 👀
Thanks to you, and Lockheed Martin, for allowing us to get a insider's view of how the F-35 performs! 👍
It was very cool of Lockheed to bring you in & to give us all a tour of the F-35 cockpit👍
Having read about these systems, I understood how they worked but seeing them in action really convinced me of their capabilities.
After a very long delay, for political reasons, Canada has finally ordered F-35’s. It will be several years before the initial deliveries but that may ensure we get models that are more advanced and give the RCAF time to upgrade its facilities and support systems and personnel to be ready for the new platform.
It ain't done yet. Plenty of time remaining for Trudeau to screw it up.
Salute to everyone delivering a payload while watching this video. Love that you get all these cool experiences, Chris! Well-earned.
Naaah. Chris just joined the Marines to get access.
So to speak.
Tons of thanks Chris!
Excellent video Chris! And thanks Lockheed Martin for giving us all a cool demo!
Every aircraft is a 2 seater if you’re friendly enough. I’d sit on someone’s lap for a ride 😅
As much as the F-35 project has been an example of how not to run a development and construction project. The stuff developed really shows just how much of a leap has been taken. From memory the only other aircraft currently coming close to this level of sensor fusion and avionics as a platform is the Rafale. The video also shows why so many other manufacturers, military and civilian, are putting so much into developing system platforms to more easily support integration of functional modules.
Oh, and as a side note. Just think of how crazy advanced what was shown was. Then put it in the context that this is the stuff they're publicly showing.
This video has me feeling nostalgic for when i went to LockMar in 07 and flew the jsf sim
Huge thanks to Lockheed Martin and Puff for providing this sort of interaction with them. Great job!
I knew it! I was at AirPower24 and they had 4 USAF F-35 (maintenance crew said), one was on display and one was flying, 2 in a reserved hangar. Surely they were there to do more stuff behind closed doors.
I’m jealous as I only managed to sit in the Gripen mockup
This is so awesome! 5th gen displays and capabilities are a huge step up from 4th gen.
What I’m most impressed is how automated everything is it’s truly like playing a video game. One thing I wish you could ask is how has this impacted training I would love detail video about what parts of training f35 pilots vs legacy aircraft pilots get Easier and harder what unique challenges or skills each pilot has when training in the f35 and weather the access of flight simulators like DCS or Microsoft flight simulator has any long term impacts on training future pilots when aircraft become more digital each year. Love to ask these questions
Pretty cool they let you in the simulator for a demo.
That’s really incredible. My dad was a P51D fighter pilot in WW2. I wish he could have been here to see the latest and best fighter planes of today. I wonder what he would have thought about these planes.
It's interesting to see how the displays have changed since the pre-production days. Unfortunately I don't remember the actual displays in the sim down in Fort Worth all that well, but I'm pretty sure the displays were smaller and configured differently. But it was many years ago, and I didn't see them in situ for that long.
Be funny if the pilot had a message board where they share the “Meta” and their favorite display settings
honest question: aren't those touchscreens difficult to operate when there are g-forces and vibration involved? i always have a hell of a time operating touchscreens in the car, while buttons usuially work much better for me.
I think that if you're pulling a lot of Gs, your hands are on your throttle and stick.
Whether it's my phone, the ATM, my tablet, or something else, I often have trouble getting touchscreens to register my presses correctly. Sometimes the button on the screen even flashes to indicate that the machine knows I pressed it, but for some reason my press wasn't up to its standards, so it does nothing.
@@jeffbangle4710 The screens in the F35 (actually all modern aircraft touch screens) work on a different principle than phones/tablets. While normal phone screens detect the heat from your fingertip, the F35 screens are covered with an invisible grid of laser beams and sensors. When a pilot presses on the F35 screen, his fingertip interrupts some of the laser beams and the touch location is determined based on which beams were interrupted. These screens are less likely to not register a touch and also allow pilots to operate them while wearing gloves.
@@MrRobertX70
Most modern consumer touch screen are a variant of capacitive type. It has nothing to do with heat.
@@jintsuubest9331 You're right.
That was a fascinating overview of how the F-35 operations and targeting are done.
Very interesting and quite a coup to get the access!
Best video on YT ever! Asking the kinds of questions we all want to know.
For all the trouble that went into it, there is no denying that this capability is truly breathtaking in how powerful it is when it all comes together. Sci-Fi like.
Many thanks to Lockheed for allowing us to see how this all works.
OK this rules. Good work to you, Lockheed Martin and Carlton Wilson. The F-35 is a friggin spaceship.
Great Video, thx from Germany
Thank you so much Lockheed Martin for allowing Chris to show us the F35 flight simulator. It's near to see just how far we've come in flight technology. :)
Interestingly, the cockpit is surprisingly simple.
We worked hard AF to make it simple.
In the early days pilots kept trying to get us to put buttons and switches back in the jet.
Some systems did earn their way back into the jet, you can see the center console has some knobs and a few dedicated displays.
For the most part though, the increase in speed and efficiency is just too good to pass up.
Doubtful it'll happen in our lifetimes, but man I hope we get to play around with this thing in a detailed simulator at some point.
F35 is in MS FS 2020.
Thanks Lockheed, that was cool. Not worth buying 88- level of cool, but still cool.
Now show us what the pilot sees from inside the helmet, show me the AugReality!!!!!
Lockheed, do it. Or else I won't revive the xm808 program. You've been warned.
thats straight up science fiction... and people still call this aircraft failed
The airplane is ok, the project management needs improvement. Supposedly uses Just in time for spare parts, which is good for a family car but not for a warplane.
Fantastic material. I love old steam gauges just the same I appreciate these modern screens. F-35 is next-level stuff widely availalbe - there is no comparison for that. Thanks to all of you, Chris and all the hosts. Absolutely mind blowing information!
lockheed martin basically take a look at air combat in gaming/video games, and observe that in games, the "workflow" of the pilot(the players) is faster and easier. what makes it so? they found it is the simplified manner of informations and access to all systems for the players. only the necessary being shown and everything ready at a touch of a button.
and so they brought that approach to the F35.
and its correct move to do.
Fantastic video!
With touchscreens, I always ask myself how easy they are to use when the airplane is moving. My only refrence are the touchscreens in my car and how i'd struggle to enter a new destination into the GPS while going even 50 km/h. Does a F35 run more smoothly than a car? Quality of the touchscreens used? Or just GUI-design, i.e. a pilot does not have to enter a string of numbers and letters but just always pushes a button to change the screen, look at information and data-entry is done via the buttons on throttle and stick?
Besides that, very cool opportunity! The HUD telling the pilot the relevant times of missile flight, what angle best used for attacks, what the own signature is likely to look...all stuff that makes it seem almost idiot-proof. I wonder what would be the next step.
You struggle because you are staring at the road.
F35 pilot will be staring at the screen most of the time.
If you get into situation where you need to stare at your surrounding, then all the necessary control are on your stick and are physical.
The gui is the same as any other fighter with mfd.
The data entry keypad is touch screen and will take up about 1/4 of the screen when you need it. You can select it via one of the top/side on screen button.
Im of the opinion that the keypad should still have a physical backup.
The dispaly itself is just your standard mfd, but slightly bigger.
The actual touch screen mechanism is independent of the display.
It is a ir grid touch screen system.
Loved how the video is edited with real-life footage, it's a nice touch! Question: Is the "stealth domain" something pilots now have to train in? What effect does it have on maneuvering?
The next gen pilots would need to have very strong mental ability. Those much information would quickly get overwhelming.
If the Dev sees this, Vtol's gonna get whole lot more crazy🔥
Oh. It's _two_ screens. Thought it was a single wide screen and always wondered what's gonna happen when the video/data feed fails.
The Gripen E/F also uses just one large touch screen MFD.
As I watch this, I see that the man-in-the-box does battle data management and weapons delivery. All air-to-air combat depicted was BVR. I do not understand why we need the man-in-the-box. Why not pull the pilot and add fuel? Put the operator behind in an E-7 and split the flying from the targeting and weapons delivery functions. Make the F35 an RPV.
What a legend!
It's notable that even the demo doesn't perform like an F35, only close!
Jesus! Systems training on one of these must be a real challenge. Executing all this while flying a fast jet in a combat zone must take a mountain of training time.
That is true of any fast jet.
Switchology we call it.
Thing is that same time investment gets you a smaller return on older jets.
If you saw Top Gun Maverick, you saw pilots having to manually track a target.
In F-35 you tell the plane you are interested in something ... and that's it. It manages all the different sensors to give you the best picture of that subject of interest.
It also automatically asks the other planes in your flight to take a look.
It's hard to describe.
Let's just say I am pretty sure Formula 1 would make it illegal because it makes the task a lot easier.
Once you locked a target, the enemy gets a warning in the cockpit and even the direction of the enemy radar . He knows the missile is in the air . You can’t tell me they didn’t know what hit them.
Amazing tech, shown to good effect by your very well informed and to the point questions 😊
I'd imagine a pilot could use HOTAS controls rather than touch screen, right? One thing I don't like about touch screens for something like that, or driving a car, is that you have to look at what your touching, essentially. So, sometimes a touch screen makes things harder, but that's where a HOTAS comes in. It might also be worth mentioning that there's a - not sure the terminology - lip switch in videos like this. I only know this from watching videos of F-35 pilots talk about this, but there's a little joystick thing in the oxygen mask that can also be used. For pilots it probably feels so obvious that it isn't worth mentioning, but the general public probably doesn't know that that's a thing. One thing maybe worth brining up is - it might make some people uncomfortable - but "piddle packs." It's a real consideration for long missions, like in the Pacific. Apparently, there's a system, and it can accommodate female pilots too.
If you are slinging missile at bvr range, you rely on your screen.
If you are acting like a pseudo local awacs, you rely on your screen.
If you are hitting ground target, you rely on your screen.
If you are doing dog fighting, you will turn on the see through view, the only control that matters is on the sticks.
Excellent video.
I'm wondering how easy it is to use those touch displays, when you're wearing a helmet and layers of gloves.
Some of the UI looked quite finnicky, with very small tappable areas.
In particular, target selection and zooming -- even with the stick controls -- seemed pretty finnicky.
As for the rest though, wow. Great video. Thanks.!
Honestly a lot of that will come down to training and familiarity. The trained pilots will be flicking through all those menus and options just like an experienced IT person can fly through various commands on a text terminal.
It's also worth noting a lot of the touchscreen only stuff will be for periods of the mission when you have the time to reach out and touch things. All the stuff you'll need when throwing the plane about will be accessed via the HOTAS or even voice commands.
Nice score.
Fascinating insight, thank you, and well managed by Lockheed Martin too.
Your content and credentials are evolving nicely.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen from Lindau Bodensee.
When can we customize our displays in our cars?🤣
When they are able to fly.😉
I half expect one of these videos to be you flying combat missions in Ukraine discussing targeting systems on a Gripen upgrade or something.
great video! thanks
Amazing, what an incredible aircraft 👌
Chris, like a kid in a candy store...
Wow, that was super interesting. Watching this only hours after the MSFS 2024 info dump was really incredible!
I'm surprised about the customisations, I'd have thought standardisation would be a benefit.
Are the customisations transportable? Stored in the helmet? The pilot has a settings USB key? Cloud storage?
Touchscreen versus touchscreen with buttons, one F-35 pilot, I think it was a testpilot, preferred to have buttons also as it i better in some situations?
so basically Ace Combat's HUD but irl :D
A stealthy Gripen E? Though the F 35 rumor has it there are some issues with the block 4 update
From an avionics perspective, everyone is converging toward the same point. So you can easily call this a stealthy rafale/gripen/ef/f16/f15/whatever.
The block 4 update shitshow is not s rumors, it is a publicized issue.
DEFIANT X is so cool ;)
Question: how does it feel to use a touch screen in a fighter? How good is the tactile feedback system in it? Based on my daily life experience, ATMs and EPOS systems in shops I find to feel kinda weird when they have touch screens because it feels very detached from the device. Is the experience similar with such a cockpit or does it take adjusting to?
So its carrying just 2 bombs and 2 AA missiles. The Gun has 180 rounds...That's a lot of tech for such few ordnance.
Perfect!
As you have been in the Gripen E simulator also any comparisons?
is the cabin digital dash board customizable?
How easy/hard was it to pull and sustain 9G in the F-35
My question is don't the touchscreen button lose the pilot a of the tactile feedback of physical ones? How are pilots supposed to do things while also keeping their eyes on others with the touchscreen?
They don't need tactile feedback. The pilot looks in to interact with the screen, in the same way I'd look in to press a soft key on a conventional screen, to ensure I was pressing the right thing to show the info I wanted.
Your eye will be on the screen 99% of the time anyways.
If you are doing close quarter combat that required your attention elsewhere, your are not operating the screen regardless.
Some of the controls were operated by tactile buttons (zooming, slewing cursor, etc). For crucial operations that pilots need access to, they have them on the stick itself it looks like, so you don't even need to take your hand off. But some operations don't really even need a separate physical knob or control. I double people want to memorize which small knob controls the salvo number when they could just adjust it in a clearly label sub menu.
Man I almost feel sorry the countries that don't have these ALMOST 😆
Looks static. I'm sure the one I have seen had 6 DoF (Degrees of Freedom) so the simulator moved in response to the flight controls.
How well does the system work against a swarm of drones? Say 109 Shahed drones and 127 air to surface missiles?
Definitely a lot better than a legacy aircraft for survivability against the SAMs alone
It's sensor can help other planes target shahed easier and it would be difficult for the 127 to target it before the f35 releases its payload of missiles or storm breakers internally
How well does those operators work against massed air power and proper combined arms tactics?
Does the F-35 have a voice-interface like the Eurofighter?
It does but it's rarely, if ever, used
How does all that electronics do against EMP?
It's shielded like most military aircraft. Has to be anyway, for lightning protection and EW defence
iirc the electric energy output required would be practically impossible to put on an enemy aircraft (much less being hidden while using it) and a ground based unit would be fairly vulnerable
@@forzaelite1248 believe it or not, multiple countries already have a weapon that has the energy to act as an EMP, and some are even small enough that most 4th gen multirole fighters can carry them.
Of course, there's the teeny, tiny, catch that this energy doesn't come in the form of a continuous stream of electrical output, but instead a huge burst of nuclear energy from AN ATOMIC BOMB.
Minor, nitpicky details, really.
@@lardthing7417 Yeah lol i wasn't sure i'd heard the statistic correctly the last time but that's the problem xD
Ironically enough, the F-35 can carry those too
@@forzaelite1248A ground based unit would immediately be targeted for a DEAD strike, it would be putting out so much radiation
What's the point of stealth regarding the F-35. When the missiles are carried on pylons, on the outside of the fighter?
@@-NiEr they allow for additional capabilities when stealth is not as important. You probably don't want to use them for SEAD, but if you're operating in a COIN environment, you may want the additional payload capacity.
Well obviously they can carry large bombs and missiles internally however not all weapons can fit inside and not all missions require stealth. Once air superiority is achieved you can load it up with whatever you want. Keep in mind there will be thousands of these it doesn't make sense to limit them to only stealth
@@shaunwu3910 Most F-35s I've seen lately, are equipped with pylons made in Norway. Is it to be able to use the original long Meteor missiles that won't fit in the internal bays? - And would not having both an internal and external load exceed the max payload?
Some of the missiles are carried internally; for missions that don't require stealth it can carry a much larger payload allowing it to be used for low and high threat environments. There's an advantage to having F-35 "missile trucks" so to speak because of the sensor data the F-35 can fuse and share with each other and other assets but it wouldn't be the best use of them. Then again, if it's the only aircraft your fleet has as is the case for several countries, it gives plenty of options.
The external AIM-9s also don't really harm its stealth enough to make a difference as I'm told by several people close to the program and some public simulations. It's a matter of designing for RCS reduction; external carry doesn't automatically mean stealth gone for both the F-35 and the F22
@@forzaelite1248 OK. A neat thing, would be if the pylons could be dropped when empty, while flying, to retain full stealth capabilities..?
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How protected are these “virtual” cockpits against EMP?
This is not virtual cockpot.
MFD has been used in military aircraft for over half a century.
Dont worry about it.
@@jintsuubest9331 and in that half century, how did they react to EMP?
@@TR4Ajim pretty sure a lot of this stuff is optical cable?
The way they have been doing it for decades. I swear every time a new piece of equipment comes out people ask this
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As you asked for questions:
What are the reasons for recent US fighter aircraft to have sidesticks (F-22, F-35, T-7A) instead of centersticks (F-15, F-18, F-14)? F-16 is an exception...
Sidesticks are more ergonomic and take up less space in the cockpit. Older aircraft have center sticks for two reasons: They have very few switches and inputs on the stick and throttle itself (not HOTAS), most of them are distributed around the cockpit, so the pilot had to use both hands to operate them, easier with a center stick as you can hold it with the other hand.
The most important thing is fly by wire.
Traditional aircraft up to the F-15 and F/A-18 had hydraulic and or mechanical controls, they were boosted by hydraulics to reduce the forces, but as a backup the pilot could still move the control surfaces by moving the stick. In case the servo systems fail, the forces required are quite large, they a long lever to overcome. Long throw sticks can only be center mounted.
The F-16 is the first full fly by wire fighter jet, there is no physical connection between stick and control surfaces. The aircraft is also slightly unstable in pitch, a human pilot can not react fast and accurate enough to control the aircraft, the pilots inputs need to be translated by the flight control system wich then adjusts the surfaces at a high frequency to make the aircraft do what the pilot wants.
If the system fails, the aircraft is uncontrollable, there will be no large forces to overcome, may as well use a side stick then.
Trump got to use the button that makes it invisible
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I dont get why we dont stick to the F-16 style cockpits
Potential issue with that display is clear lack of physical feedback and sluggishness of the screen (as processor/GPU degrades over time). I know they are not as bad as car smart screen but having sluggishness appear mid combat could be dangerous. What measures have they made to prevent it?
If you are in a2g mode, im not sure this is any more sluggish than conventional system with a multiple mfd.
If you are in a2a mode, then you are not messing with the display anyways.
As far as sluggishness due to age. They can just swap it out if it starts to show?
There are several interesting solution to tactile feedback on touchscreen. Motor behind the screen and resistance glove.
Honestly, with how fast modern displays react, barely being in the double-digit millisecond range even years later, I doubt this is an actual problem. If you wanna talk about bad display response, look at some of Russia's tank touch screens. Don't really see that in allot of modern aviation, and especially fighter aviation. Doubt it will actually be a problem
@@Registered_Simp It wasn't quite the displays to my knowledge but earlier on the helmets actually had rasterization issues that caused headaches and such; don't quite remember what caused it but it's definitely using more modern tech at this point
@forzaelite1248 Light bleed at night if memory serves, resolved when they moved to a OLED display for the helmet.
@@jintsuubest9331 i guess they could replace parts once sluggishness starts to show. Likely their parts have no signs of planned obsolescence so they last longer (unlike publicly available parts)
how can I also sell out to Lockheed Martin?
I assume you also posed this question when Chris was in Sweden.
POV: moral compass evaporating when Lockheed
@@Douganchesner Yes, I would also love to sell out to SAAB to be Able to fly the Gripen
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