I was already expecting a buff on him, but not this much 💀 what do you think, do you think it's necessary or too much 🤔? There's no bonus clips since i only played one match due to the ban, simply see my other viego's vid for more action / montage / outplay, etc XD
ah, thanks for the explanation, but what i meant there is like this : imagine if you're in a conference of multiple nations, and the representation of some country speaking in their native language in front of the others, other nations who don't understand the meaning can't help but assume it as an insult / badmouthing them, no matter what they said in this case, unless they're talking to their friend, it'll be justified, but typing in party chat would be more appropriate, and i don't see anyone typing thai other than herself in the whole game, and that still didn't explain the constant ping spam on me out of nowhere 😂
Looks like the people who complained about him being too squishy won this time around... definitely expecting a nerf to hit sometime since that ult heal buff looks insane. Nice gameplay as usual, was refreshing to see a safer and strategic gameplay this time around
Bro i asked you for tips yesterday I rewatched ur videos and got 3 quadras in one game 😂 I have a question, how to till which build i gotta use in game ? (ap,ad)
nice, it depends on lots of factors, like are they naturally strong against ad / ap? (morg, galio, etc), whether they have many tanky champs or not (which makes ad preferable than ap), can they kite you easily (which make burst ap is better), etc etc
:bruhwtf: i'd really recommend watching my other viego's vid since there's not much of an action here :kek:, AP viego ones is the best one imo :heheboi:
sure, if i got to pick her i've posted a few of her gameplay too in the past, it's kinda outdated, but her build and kits didn't receive that much of a change over those patches iirc
yeah, the buff on his HP and healing AD scaling is pretty nice for his sustainability, and the QOL buff on his ult and quick tap stun is nice too, but i didn't expect his percentage damage passive to be buffed too tbh
I hope they come out with a really good fighter/tank item that can really give veigo the edge he needs to be more playable, he's now got good clear but it really seems like he's missing something because u can't engage with him in teamfights as how a tank would he doesnt have crazy amount of sustain like aatrox and he cant withstand damage long enough to kill he aint sion so what must u put on the bastard to make him last, I thought about full tank with bork first item then runnnin full tank items but it still doesnt work kinda am about to just give up on him ngl
At this point I just think u need crazy amounts of skill and building knowledge with what items are here now to play veigo meaning hes not for everyone to just play. Still many ppl ave seen play him so far in the patch rn id say lose 70%/80% of their matches with veigo. Such a cursed champ
Ditz I hope u find a really broken build with him because the ap, crit and sustain builds ave seen so far from you and everyone else are like prototypes or knockoffs of what his true broken build should look like.
@@bluscreen7662 just gotta time when to go in and out with him, i don't think they intended to make him play like a bulky fighter with his kit like that
I think they overbuffed him way too much Like dont get me wrong he needed buffs but not 10 of them on the same patch Lets see how ling it takes them to nerf him
Yeah now he truly shreds even the tankiest champs I am predicting nerfs for him soon because his ban rate is so high 😂 and i am sure his win rate will skyrocket @Ditanium
@@Ditanium i myself have been perma banning him after i played with him and against him 4 times in masters He snowballs out of control in team fights if any ally dies and his burst dmg is high
U know how riot is : new champ released --> bad reaction by players --> overbuff anyways gj but I'd advise u not go for the lv.1 invade unless u r taking his whole red side , a full clear will yield u more advantage in the early game especially considering viego finishes his jungle fastest in the game
he's not really the fastest camps clearer, kayn still clear way faster than him for example, also if the enemy start at blue as an AD champ, they'll likely rushed to red afterward, doing another camps is simply a bad idea, especially since it was at the dragon lane where 2-3 of his team will come at you the second they saw you, forcing your flash or your life itself
I feel like sunderer as an item is just not worth it even with the sustain being considered, it's too weak compared to triforce, it's even weaker especially for viego since he already has a %hp damage kit in his passive. Also i prefer lifesteal boots on him, while getting some atk speed is nice, it's not really his core stat. Stacking lifesteal with gluttonous + bloodline is a great way to increase his sustain without relying on sunderer healing, this applies for so many junglers too.
other good stats from sunderer is it's HP, the main purpose of this item on viego is it's HP and spammable healing to increase his survivability, the percentage damage there is just a bonus, trinity will obviously give more damage, but as you said he already has hp% damage on his kit and botrk, it's more than enough damage already, getting constant healing midfight from sunderer (because of his short skills cd) is more beneficial than doing AD based spellblade for little more damage i've already played him 30+ times already, with trinity you at most can only last after 2-3 takedown, i'd just go for full ap build if i want more burst damage as for the boots, both works, just go with whatever you want / need, i use berserker to make the combo smoother since the only atk speed item i have is botrk, but do note that you won't be doing that many AA in real case scenario, you'll be going in and out most of the times, and that's where burst of healing from sunderer shine, unless the enemies are consist of squishy, but then again i'd just go AP in that case at the end of the day, it's still up to you what you decide to use on him, i find more success using the sustain build to 1 vs 9 on solo q rather than trinity (yes, i've lost count how many svp i got with trinity because i always run out of HP after 2-3 enemies), thus i'd still recommend this build to climb consistently on solo q, or the ap build when facing squishies
@@Ditanium That's why i suggested with triforce, it makes your combo much more smoother compared to sunderer. Viego naturally has monstrous base hp similar to pyke and eve, so i don't think getting less hp is that big of an issue. It's also why i suggested using gluttonous because of the sustain, legend bloodline is also an extremely powerful rune for junglers. Getting massive amount of lifesteal means you're also increasing your effective hp, so it's pretty much counterbalanced by the less amount of bonus hp. When you already have triforce, you'll have decent amount of attack speed already as the item provides you with every stats you need. With gluttonous + bloodline + botrk your lifesteal is at a whopping 26%, plus conq full stack means you get 34%! The thing with lifesteal is unlike sunderer, you can proc it on jungle camps which means you're less likely to need to have a recall. I saw your gameplay just how squishy you were before botrk, my assumption is due to you lacking in lifesteal. I'm by no mean an expert and these are all just my humble opinion, but this strategy is very common on high elo junglers and i think everyone can apply it to their jungle games, which is stacking lifesteal.
@@hey9974 just in case you didn't know, that's literally the first build i used too, pairing trinity with gluttonous goes without saying, you shouldn't be arguing about boots in the first place, after all you choose whichever you lacking on there's a reason why i ditched that build, everything is based off on my experience not just a theory, also viego is squishy idk why you says otherwise, hence the hp buff. If you didn't know his Q's healing passive is spammable too (works with W too), so he has no vamping issue on monsters I've already said my part and won't elaborate further, if that's what you believe then by all means feel free to do so, i'll still respect your opinion. But by this discussion, i assume that you didn't watch my Viego's guide video? I already explained his itemizing there (and yes, i mentioned trinity and gluttonous too there), tl;dr you shouldn't be simply taking a look at others build and thinking they use it on every cases, there's a reason why i typed 'this is the build i'd use for "this match" ', there might be a case where i'll still use trinity too (ex: against squishy when your team has too much AP champ / resist AP naturally (galio/morg/kass), etc)
@@Ditanium yea it depends if your fully charging ur W or not. Taping it makes the combo easier. But when u fully charge its much harder, you cant do a combo like with thresh hook flash😅
yeah, it definitely is, was planning to use it too in this match, but they got two tanky fighters, so i decided to use sustain build just to be safe, since it's hard to even get a chance to pick him with him being banned more frequently now 😂
It was a mistake giving viego for buffs. And as for Thai Lux. I tried chatgpt to translate but it seems his chat were too offensive that led the chatgpt cant reply back as its "safety system". Ill try ask my friend and update from the reply. He is from thai.
lol, it's ok no need to bother translating it, i said that just for fun 🤣 but no matter what the meaning is, typing in your native language in a global / multiple country server is just not appropriate, other people can't help but took it as an insult / badmouthing, especially with those constant out of nowhere ping
talon burst damage was too much with his high mobility, the nerf isn't really that big tho so he's still usable as for viego, his hp and sustain buff is understandable, but yeah the damage buff was definitely not necessary
I was already expecting a buff on him, but not this much 💀
what do you think, do you think it's necessary or too much 🤔?
There's no bonus clips since i only played one match due to the ban, simply see my other viego's vid for more action / montage / outplay, etc XD
It’s too much like what’s the point of giving an op character a buff like give it to someone else 😭
@@AlexaRichardson-f6s yes, like zoe for example 🥲
Hey Dit, that’s Thai language, the phrase that Lux typed isn’t actually an insult, she just said to wait for the teammates
ah, thanks for the explanation,
but what i meant there is like this :
imagine if you're in a conference of multiple nations, and the representation of some country speaking in their native language in front of the others, other nations who don't understand the meaning can't help but assume it as an insult / badmouthing them, no matter what they said
in this case, unless they're talking to their friend, it'll be justified, but typing in party chat would be more appropriate, and i don't see anyone typing thai other than herself in the whole game, and that still didn't explain the constant ping spam on me out of nowhere 😂
the buffs make viego so much more fun!
Bad teammates then flaming you is so frustrating lol
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His ult is so satisfying! And when he changes into another champion!
your videos are the best. both informative and so funnyy 😭 i hope you make lots of videos
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Viegos so satisfying to play when ahead
fact: whenever i listen to the weekend you upload new vid... ok now i dont know why i said this but fact is over. have a nice day sirr
since when did this happen😱
@@Ditanium like for a month i guess
Looks like the people who complained about him being too squishy won this time around... definitely expecting a nerf to hit sometime since that ult heal buff looks insane.
Nice gameplay as usual, was refreshing to see a safer and strategic gameplay this time around
yeah, no more carnage like the usual 🤣
Bro i asked you for tips yesterday
I rewatched ur videos and got 3 quadras in one game 😂
I have a question, how to till which build i gotta use in game ? (ap,ad)
nice,
it depends on lots of factors, like are they naturally strong against ad / ap? (morg, galio, etc), whether they have many tanky champs or not (which makes ad preferable than ap), can they kite you easily (which make burst ap is better), etc etc
Ty bro
More buffs for popular champs... While the other unused champs gets left in the dust...
I knew it, been waiting for you to upload😎
Hi! I am back :okaychamp: Thank you for the wonderful bug king gameplay!
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i'd really recommend watching my other viego's vid since there's not much of an action here :kek:, AP viego ones is the best one imo :heheboi:
Can u plz do a vid ab Camille and her abilities? I wanna play her cuz i see people deals so much dmg and tank a lot with her
sure, if i got to pick her
i've posted a few of her gameplay too in the past, it's kinda outdated, but her build and kits didn't receive that much of a change over those patches iirc
@@Ditanium ok man i'll look forward to it 🥰
SAME WITH MISS FORTUNE TOO! HER REWORK IS JUST🔥🔥
yes, but the rework is not out yet now
he was under performing he needed that buff
i didn't try it yet but looks broken now
yeah, the buff on his HP and healing AD scaling is pretty nice for his sustainability,
and the QOL buff on his ult and quick tap stun is nice too, but i didn't expect his percentage damage passive to be buffed too tbh
I hope they come out with a really good fighter/tank item that can really give veigo the edge he needs to be more playable, he's now got good clear but it really seems like he's missing something because u can't engage with him in teamfights as how a tank would he doesnt have crazy amount of sustain like aatrox and he cant withstand damage long enough to kill he aint sion so what must u put on the bastard to make him last, I thought about full tank with bork first item then runnnin full tank items but it still doesnt work kinda am about to just give up on him ngl
At this point I just think u need crazy amounts of skill and building knowledge with what items are here now to play veigo meaning hes not for everyone to just play. Still many ppl ave seen play him so far in the patch rn id say lose 70%/80% of their matches with veigo. Such a cursed champ
Ditz I hope u find a really broken build with him because the ap, crit and sustain builds ave seen so far from you and everyone else are like prototypes or knockoffs of what his true broken build should look like.
@@bluscreen7662 just gotta time when to go in and out with him, i don't think they intended to make him play like a bulky fighter with his kit like that
Arcade Viego looks so fun!!🎉
I think he is still not tanky although base hp buffed but still okay. It's fun to use viego
why did they buff him hes op enough actually+ I cant play him bc of the perma ban
yeah, the biggest downside of the buff is that he became even more harder to pick due to more frequent ban 😂
I think they overbuffed him way too much
Like dont get me wrong he needed buffs but not 10 of them on the same patch
Lets see how ling it takes them to nerf him
true, the sustain buffs and qol buffs on his ult and stun is nice,
but i didn't expect his percentage hp damage passive to be buffed too
Yeah now he truly shreds even the tankiest champs
I am predicting nerfs for him soon because his ban rate is so high 😂 and i am sure his win rate will skyrocket @Ditanium
@@Ditanium i myself have been perma banning him after i played with him and against him 4 times in masters
He snowballs out of control in team fights if any ally dies and his burst dmg is high
@@amvbro7033 definitely, unless if those randoms still managed to mess up the play and ruined his overall winrate 🤣
Dammn, you're mastering Viego, you're probably mastery level 6 or 7
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idk about now, but last time i noticed, i was still at M5 🤣
Must be nice to own the new viego skin
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I can finally be usefull in aram with him
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lmao exactlyy. i always use tank build cuz hes too squishy with ad
Bruh he got a buff when he's already strong I can't even beat him in 1v1 devis want people to have fun playing veigo
😂, the hp and sustain buff is okay, but yeah that percentage hp dmg buff is kinda unnecessary imo
U know how riot is : new champ released --> bad reaction by players --> overbuff
anyways gj but I'd advise u not go for the lv.1 invade unless u r taking his whole red side , a full clear will yield u more advantage in the early game especially considering viego finishes his jungle fastest in the game
he's not really the fastest camps clearer, kayn still clear way faster than him for example, also if the enemy start at blue as an AD champ, they'll likely rushed to red afterward, doing another camps is simply a bad idea, especially since it was at the dragon lane where 2-3 of his team will come at you the second they saw you, forcing your flash or your life itself
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Honestly, i feel like the Buff of increases range on his Ult was enough for him to be better, the rest was pure greed 😂
the hp and sustain buff is reasonable too, but yeah can't say anything about the rest of it 🤣
I feel like sunderer as an item is just not worth it even with the sustain being considered, it's too weak compared to triforce, it's even weaker especially for viego since he already has a %hp damage kit in his passive.
Also i prefer lifesteal boots on him, while getting some atk speed is nice, it's not really his core stat. Stacking lifesteal with gluttonous + bloodline is a great way to increase his sustain without relying on sunderer healing, this applies for so many junglers too.
other good stats from sunderer is it's HP, the main purpose of this item on viego is it's HP and spammable healing to increase his survivability, the percentage damage there is just a bonus, trinity will obviously give more damage, but as you said he already has hp% damage on his kit and botrk, it's more than enough damage already,
getting constant healing midfight from sunderer (because of his short skills cd) is more beneficial than doing AD based spellblade for little more damage
i've already played him 30+ times already, with trinity you at most can only last after 2-3 takedown, i'd just go for full ap build if i want more burst damage
as for the boots, both works, just go with whatever you want / need, i use berserker to make the combo smoother since the only atk speed item i have is botrk, but do note that you won't be doing that many AA in real case scenario, you'll be going in and out most of the times, and that's where burst of healing from sunderer shine, unless the enemies are consist of squishy, but then again i'd just go AP in that case
at the end of the day, it's still up to you what you decide to use on him, i find more success using the sustain build to 1 vs 9 on solo q rather than trinity (yes, i've lost count how many svp i got with trinity because i always run out of HP after 2-3 enemies), thus i'd still recommend this build to climb consistently on solo q, or the ap build when facing squishies
@@Ditanium That's why i suggested with triforce, it makes your combo much more smoother compared to sunderer. Viego naturally has monstrous base hp similar to pyke and eve, so i don't think getting less hp is that big of an issue. It's also why i suggested using gluttonous because of the sustain, legend bloodline is also an extremely powerful rune for junglers. Getting massive amount of lifesteal means you're also increasing your effective hp, so it's pretty much counterbalanced by the less amount of bonus hp.
When you already have triforce, you'll have decent amount of attack speed already as the item provides you with every stats you need. With gluttonous + bloodline + botrk your lifesteal is at a whopping 26%, plus conq full stack means you get 34%! The thing with lifesteal is unlike sunderer, you can proc it on jungle camps which means you're less likely to need to have a recall. I saw your gameplay just how squishy you were before botrk, my assumption is due to you lacking in lifesteal. I'm by no mean an expert and these are all just my humble opinion, but this strategy is very common on high elo junglers and i think everyone can apply it to their jungle games, which is stacking lifesteal.
@@hey9974 just in case you didn't know, that's literally the first build i used too, pairing trinity with gluttonous goes without saying, you shouldn't be arguing about boots in the first place, after all you choose whichever you lacking on
there's a reason why i ditched that build, everything is based off on my experience not just a theory, also viego is squishy idk why you says otherwise, hence the hp buff.
If you didn't know his Q's healing passive is spammable too (works with W too), so he has no vamping issue on monsters
I've already said my part and won't elaborate further, if that's what you believe then by all means feel free to do so, i'll still respect your opinion. But by this discussion, i assume that you didn't watch my Viego's guide video? I already explained his itemizing there (and yes, i mentioned trinity and gluttonous too there),
tl;dr you shouldn't be simply taking a look at others build and thinking they use it on every cases, there's a reason why i typed 'this is the build i'd use for "this match" ', there might be a case where i'll still use trinity too (ex: against squishy when your team has too much AP champ / resist AP naturally (galio/morg/kass), etc)
Viego already OP idk what Riot is thinking smh
the hp and sustain buff is reasonable, but yeah that extra percentage damage was not really that needed
Only downside is that W + Flash and R + Flash dont work. I wish they fix these for more play making potential
W + Flash is actually working, i did that few times, it's just that the time window is pretty short, similar with Ahri's charm
@@Ditanium yea it depends if your fully charging ur W or not. Taping it makes the combo easier. But when u fully charge its much harder, you cant do a combo like with thresh hook flash😅
@@peterzoghbi8 yeah, just harder, not completely impossible
dam more buffs?!💀
Permenant viego ban then☠️
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Omg the second time I’m this early, hallo everyone! 👋
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The AP build you uploaded last time is more fun to use
yeah, it definitely is, was planning to use it too in this match, but they got two tanky fighters, so i decided to use sustain build just to be safe, since it's hard to even get a chance to pick him with him being banned more frequently now 😂
Came for the Akshan vids, stayed for a duolingo lesson in the comments 👀
lmao 🤣
They buffed him💀💀
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It was a mistake giving viego for buffs. And as for Thai Lux. I tried chatgpt to translate but it seems his chat were too offensive that led the chatgpt cant reply back as its "safety system". Ill try ask my friend and update from the reply. He is from thai.
lol, it's ok no need to bother translating it, i said that just for fun 🤣
but no matter what the meaning is, typing in your native language in a global / multiple country server is just not appropriate, other people can't help but took it as an insult / badmouthing, especially with those constant out of nowhere ping
@@Ditaniummhm idk then what language are you supposed to use?
His q passive + botrk =goodbye tank
Wish they nerfed his q passive..
ikr, it shred tank pretty easily,
although i can't complain since everyone is buying heartsteel on any champs nowadays 🤣
Let's see if he stays like this or Riot regrets the buffs xd
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I dont understand why they buff viego but hard nerfed talon😭😭😭
talon burst damage was too much with his high mobility, the nerf isn't really that big tho so he's still usable
as for viego, his hp and sustain buff is understandable, but yeah the damage buff was definitely not necessary
tanks r sweating right now
definitely 🤣
The nerfed kayn so they can replace him with viego 😂😂😂😂
lol, nice theory 🤣,
but he's not at kayn lvl of broken yet
he's so broken 😭
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Auto ban him!
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Early
Banned champ 😂
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Someone give me a lux skin please😭🙏
I'd like to see the 2nd best build
sure, if i got to pick him again
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