I carry one of each. One canister and a small Lezyne mini pump. The canister is good when riding with a group because it's a quicker fix when you're riding buddies are waiting for you. The pump is a good backup for those times you or a friend have more than one puncture. And I have that same chrome Silca/Campy frame pump in a box in the garage.
Been awhile since I tuned in. The outdoors setting is great, much nicer than the motel motif. Been carrying pocket pump that also takes CO2 cartridge. I like reliability of pump, even if pressure is low. Now back to skiing.
After owning MULTITUDES of 'Emergency Roadside Bike Tire Inflators' (ie: frame fit pumps, mini pumps, CO2 inflators) I found the Lezyne Sport Drive HP to be the BEST. It is unique in that it has an internal detachable hose that screws onto both Presta and Schrader valves so you don't have to hold onto the pump head/valve when pumping. This prevents valve damage when trying to pump past 70psi when you have to pump HARD! Also the seal interface btw. Pump head and valve WON'T Leak since you thread the hose on and the O-ring makes a TIGHT seal! The Sport Drive model cost about $20. You can splurge for the "Gauge Drive" model with pressure gauge for about $50. I've never tried that one so I'm not sure how accurate the guage is. PS: I'm lucky enough to have the same Chrome Silca Pump with Campy Head as Bobke has. I don't haul that behemoth thing around on my modern Bikes though. I only do on my Vintage Bikes ... but mostly for looks. It is a BEAUTIFUL Pump! The Campy Head which is METAL is MUCH better than the PLASTIC stock Silca head. Even so pumping past 70-80 psi there can be leakage since there is no clamping mechanism on the pump head. You have to screw the Campy Head on JUST RIGHT compressing the rubber donut seal so it 'seals' the Presta valve when sliding it onto the presta valve. This can be an issue when pumping a threaded or unthreaded valve stem. I just carry a hidden Lezyne mini pump along also jic on my Vintage bikes. Also a cool hack is to use the rubber stoppers from the hooks on plastic coated wire coat hangers to replace the old decayed stock blue rubber 'wing protectors' on the Campy Head unit.
I had a frame pump. I believe it was made by Zefal that comes in different sizes to fit any frame. It even has a Velcro tie to secure it to the frame. Only problem was plastic cap that screwed onto the nozzle end if over tightened would split. Seller told me manufacturer would supply extra caps for free. I solved the problem by super gluing cap back together and then super glued cap onto pump head at just the right position. When I sold bike that fit the pump the pump went with it.
I've got 1 CO2 cartridge in my seat bag and a small frame pump that is installed under the bottle cage bolts. I've never needed to use the frame pump myself but it's saved a couple friends who found leaks in their tube mid-ride.
I can't tell you how many times I've rescued weight-weenies (as I call them) who have been unable to fill their carbon wheeled tires with their lame-ass C02 rigs. Then, they almost always leave the empty cartridges on the side of the road. WTF! A pump might break, as you say, but it's never happened to me and they can be repaired (at least, mine can be repaired. That Campy pump should be saved for your special ride). I have filled tires up to 120 lbs with my trusty Zefal frame pump. It wasn't easy but it can be done.
Great video. I too prefer frame pumps for both road and MTB. However on the MTB it's a Genuine Innovations Mountain Pipe that is also a co2 inflator. This way if I choose I can try the co2 but still top off or have the back up of a pump.
I like having both, using the co2 to get the tire topped off hard. Maybe those old school silca pumps can put 120 psi in a tire, but that's still a lot of pumping.
I'm a frame pump guy as well. I had the old Zefal pump back in the 80's, now I carry a Specialized air tool road pump. I have had poor luck with CO2, its not 100% dependable so I don't want to take the chance of getting stranded. My Specialized pump weighs less than the CO2 unit and 3 cartridges.
AS I posted on another You tube Bobke has.. I carry a Frame pump on my two steel steeds.. But the Zefal HP frame pump will not fit on the Cannondale CADD10. I tried top tube and even the old school way on the Non drive side of the seat stays.. So I carry a Lezyne HP Pressure Drive Mini Pump I n my tool bag it has a holder on the bottom bag for a mini pump.. Plus I do have 1 CO2 inside the bag too.. I Put my Mini Pump inside a Zip Lock bag to protect it..
haha, I somehow had a hunch that Bobke was gonna like something old-school that stopped being made in the 90's. I swear by a good bottle cage mounted pump that by no means are "fast", but get the job done. Btw, get off Bobke's lawn.
Bobke, I know you never respond to comments in your videos but I HOPE you read them. The blue rubber 'Wing protectors' on your Campy Silca Pump Head are thrashed. I'm sure you tried finding them in vain. They're "Unobtainium". Buy some plastic coated coat hangers that come with rubber protector tips for the hooks. Those tips fit PERFECTLY and are the PERFECT size for the Wings, albeit they are White instead of Blue. They'll protect your frame paint and look quite nice too. Sometimes with Old Vintage Bike Parts you have to resort to Hacks.
No matter which you prefer going cheap is Not the answer. I seen people use both and the Pump or C02 head was cheap junk. I use C02 which works for me (and never leave cartridge on the ground).
I had a CO2 inflation device blow up in my hand. My skin was red and wrinkled for about 2 hours. After that I won't even shoot a CO2 powered pellet gun.
Geeee.... wonder why they quit making frame pumps?? DUH!!!! Mini pump tech has come a long way. For that matter so has CO2 ( th-cam.com/video/tBPgwo7NEJ0/w-d-xo.html ).
Frame pump also handy for threatening errant hounds on the backroads.
Such honesty: 'I usually too distracted out on the open road to change it without any mistakes." Mr. Roll is a national cycling treasure!
Silca still makes a frame pump and replacement parts for all the old ones. Now based in Indianapolis and American owned. Beautiful stuff.
I carry one of each. One canister and a small Lezyne mini pump. The canister is good when riding with a group because it's a quicker fix when you're riding buddies are waiting for you. The pump is a good backup for those times you or a friend have more than one puncture. And I have that same chrome Silca/Campy frame pump in a box in the garage.
That old school pump is awesome, I used to have one. I also had one with a Campy copy metal head.
Been awhile since I tuned in. The outdoors setting is great, much nicer than the motel motif. Been carrying pocket pump that also takes CO2 cartridge. I like reliability of pump, even if pressure is low. Now back to skiing.
After owning MULTITUDES of 'Emergency Roadside Bike Tire Inflators' (ie: frame fit pumps, mini pumps, CO2 inflators) I found the Lezyne Sport Drive HP to be the BEST. It is unique in that it has an internal detachable hose that screws onto both Presta and Schrader valves so you don't have to hold onto the pump head/valve when pumping. This prevents valve damage when trying to pump past 70psi when you have to pump HARD! Also the seal interface btw. Pump head and valve WON'T Leak since you thread the hose on and the O-ring makes a TIGHT seal! The Sport Drive model cost about $20. You can splurge for the "Gauge Drive" model with pressure gauge for about $50. I've never tried that one so I'm not sure how accurate the guage is. PS: I'm lucky enough to have the same Chrome Silca Pump with Campy Head as Bobke has. I don't haul that behemoth thing around on my modern Bikes though. I only do on my Vintage Bikes ... but mostly for looks. It is a BEAUTIFUL Pump! The Campy Head which is METAL is MUCH better than the PLASTIC stock Silca head. Even so pumping past 70-80 psi there can be leakage since there is no clamping mechanism on the pump head. You have to screw the Campy Head on JUST RIGHT compressing the rubber donut seal so it 'seals' the Presta valve when sliding it onto the presta valve. This can be an issue when pumping a threaded or unthreaded valve stem. I just carry a hidden Lezyne mini pump along also jic on my Vintage bikes. Also a cool hack is to use the rubber stoppers from the hooks on plastic coated wire coat hangers to replace the old decayed stock blue rubber 'wing protectors' on the Campy Head unit.
I had a frame pump. I believe it was made by Zefal that comes in different sizes to fit any frame. It even has a Velcro tie to secure it to the frame. Only problem was plastic cap that screwed onto the nozzle end if over tightened would split. Seller told me manufacturer would supply extra caps for free. I solved the problem by super gluing cap back together and then super glued cap onto pump head at just the right position. When I sold bike that fit the pump the pump went with it.
Beautiful Silca impero!! Have two pumps, congrats...
I've got 1 CO2 cartridge in my seat bag and a small frame pump that is installed under the bottle cage bolts. I've never needed to use the frame pump myself but it's saved a couple friends who found leaks in their tube mid-ride.
I can't tell you how many times I've rescued weight-weenies (as I call them) who have been unable to fill their carbon wheeled tires with their lame-ass C02 rigs. Then, they almost always leave the empty cartridges on the side of the road. WTF! A pump might break, as you say, but it's never happened to me and they can be repaired (at least, mine can be repaired. That Campy pump should be saved for your special ride). I have filled tires up to 120 lbs with my trusty Zefal frame pump. It wasn't easy but it can be done.
Great video. I too prefer frame pumps for both road and MTB. However on the MTB it's a Genuine Innovations Mountain Pipe that is also a co2 inflator. This way if I choose I can try the co2 but still top off or have the back up of a pump.
I like having both, using the co2 to get the tire topped off hard. Maybe those old school silca pumps can put 120 psi in a tire, but that's still a lot of pumping.
I just got the silca classic one but I’m sure how to use it properly. Can you do the video how to use it would be helpful. Thanks
I'm a frame pump guy as well. I had the old Zefal pump back in the 80's, now I carry a Specialized air tool road pump. I have had poor luck with CO2, its not 100% dependable so I don't want to take the chance of getting stranded. My Specialized pump weighs less than the CO2 unit and 3 cartridges.
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They still make Zefal right?
I've got one of those Silca pumps. Much prefer my compact Lyzene carbon road pump in the back of my jersey
AS I posted on another You tube Bobke has.. I carry a Frame pump on my two steel steeds.. But the Zefal HP frame pump will not fit on the Cannondale CADD10. I tried top tube and even the old school way on the Non drive side of the seat stays.. So I carry a Lezyne HP Pressure Drive Mini Pump I n my tool bag it has a holder on the bottom bag for a mini pump.. Plus I do have 1 CO2 inside the bag too.. I Put my Mini Pump inside a Zip Lock bag to protect it..
Zefel made a nice frame pump also, back in the day.
Is an old school frame pump safe with a carbon frame?
Silca still makes these frame pumps. Not identical as your dinosaur but very good quality. I just scored mine from the Rapha website.
I swing my co2 at chasing dogs, it only works on really old dogs w/ good memories
What is the price of frame pump which is in your hand .I want it.Pease mannage to send it .
haha, I somehow had a hunch that Bobke was gonna like something old-school that stopped being made in the 90's. I swear by a good bottle cage mounted pump that by no means are "fast", but get the job done. Btw, get off Bobke's lawn.
Not a shocker that Bobke goes old school. I carry 2 or 3 Co2 cartridges in my replair kit and the weigh penalty is minimal.
How about a mini pump that attaches to your bike?
mini pump,fits nicely in the back pocket.
Bobke, I know you never respond to comments in your videos but I HOPE you read them. The blue rubber 'Wing protectors' on your Campy Silca Pump Head are thrashed. I'm sure you tried finding them in vain. They're "Unobtainium". Buy some plastic coated coat hangers that come with rubber protector tips for the hooks. Those tips fit PERFECTLY and are the PERFECT size for the Wings, albeit they are White instead of Blue. They'll protect your frame paint and look quite nice too. Sometimes with Old Vintage Bike Parts you have to resort to Hacks.
I'm a touring cyclist. frame pump over co2 cause logistics can be spotty on long treks .
I carry CO2. Used twice without an issue. Since I switched to tubeless tires (knock on wood) I have not had a flat for the past 3,800 - 4,000 miles.
Campy pumpheads make for great hash pipes too! just sayn
Compressor/generator carried in a buggy attached to bike
I was trying to think of a more laborious way than Bobke's ginormous frame pump and couldn't. I think you landed on it.
No matter which you prefer going cheap is Not the answer. I seen people use both and the Pump or C02 head was cheap junk. I use C02 which works for me (and never leave cartridge on the ground).
Competitive Cycles has that pump in stock.
i laughed everytime you laughed... was hilarious. great video
Why hang a antique on a beautiful carbon frame. I carry two cartridges. I know what you mean. I have been there..
a quick splash in the face with your water bottle work great to repel dogs, a lot less violent too
I agree. CO2 can be a pain in the rear !
Frame pump also doubles as a nice club against country dogs nipping at your heels!
I had a CO2 inflation device blow up in my hand. My skin was red and wrinkled for about 2 hours. After that I won't even shoot a CO2 powered pellet gun.
Tape it to the frame, no no, Velcro cable ties. Very reusable.
vintage wins
I much prefer frame pumps for fighting off angry black bears.
... frane pump... !!!
CO2 for me. Never let me down.
Geeee.... wonder why they quit making frame pumps?? DUH!!!! Mini pump tech has come a long way. For that matter so has CO2 ( th-cam.com/video/tBPgwo7NEJ0/w-d-xo.html ).