I worked in North Dakota 2013-2015 hauling sand and crude. Owner operator. We made 75$ an hour demurge (parking waiting time) after an hour on site. I sat for 3 days one time getting paid. Rates to haul sand was well paid 2500 - 3500 a day was normal. Every day all day. Then after 2015 they slowly started taking everything away. I left People kept showing up and companies kept taking away. As long as people show up, the company will Continue to lower rates. Stops showing up. Watch things change.
Amazing I hear execs say if they pay any better they'll lose all the jobs, go out of business, and prices will skyrocket. All while price-gouging, cutting workers to the bone, and inflating their wealth and bonuses and corporate profits and shareholder dividends. It's pure evil greed when they can still be rich paying people well.
This is what I was thinking. These guys are owner/ operators and it sounds like an overly saturated market. As for porta potty's, welcome to every construction site/ well pad in America. They're gross and hot. It sucks but it is what it is. Get in and get out.
Imagine someone who could eat a large meal in front a starving child, and throw half of it away before taking a nice long nap. Now imagine, that is exactly who's in power
Whille im sad that this had to happen in order for them to realise this, i am none the less happy that thease workers finally realised that they have to stand up for their rights because their employers, and this assbackwards system wont untill its radically changed ! If employers knew no one would stand for this, they wouldnt do what they do! Whille its the abusers fault for doing the abuse, its the victims fault for not setting up any boundries, espcially when the workers have the upper hand in everything except for trust in their fellow coworkers, the understanding that they dont have to sacrifice their lives for a good life and for a good econony, and the courage to act ! The kind of system we have is like when in school all the kids are afraid of that one bully that screws over everyone. At some point, we do it to ourselves and eachother, and the oportunistic slime, just nudge us to go against one another. This is why we need to push for better education. The biggest reason of is why this is happening is the lack of education, and the right wing think tanks have been trying to worsten education even more Just look at what pregar U is doing. Its pushing their programs into schools, and they have succeeded in making their grooming not only legal, but instituded within seval schools, in Ohio ( i believe it was Ohio, but you can fact check) Back to the main topic. This is a horrendous display of power, that provoked a great thing to happen! Lets support thease drivers and all other workers in any way we can! Have a great day everyone!
@@MrSubsound90 I dont care, i suffer in life too. And yes, even if youre rich you can suffer a lot. So i dont understand why you think giving them more money would make them necessarily happier. Plus as a business owner, i mean the real business owners, it makes no sense to pay more than necessary for a trucker.
@MisterRolandsMadCoasters I’m not normally one to judge someone for the content of their channel, but someone that uploads a bunch of videos about virtual roller coasters doesn’t strike me as somebody who knows what hard, honest work is. Going by these comments, it sounds like you do more sitting around trolling online than anything else.
Sand hauling is brutal. I did it for a couple of years and I wouldn’t wish this job to my worst enemy. Nearly all them companies are violating DOT and running around the clock. Truckers are treated like shit, and no one pays for the time waiting. I have been up to 3 days at a well waiting to get unloaded. There needs to be a Class Action Lawsuit against these giants.
@@mr.skeptical3071 indeed. Fracking is generally exempt. But that it is even worse, because they want you to live inside the truck and never go home despite being local.
It is actually in Canada, but no one has challenged it within the USA so far as I know. In Canada, its illegal to interfere with anyones bodily function. Impossing a fine would also be illegal, firing would be illegal. Its even in our labour codes in Canada. Dont have to wait for your regular breaks, to use a washroom or in need of food/water/etc.(retired trucker here)
Oh you haven''t seen truckers working in east europe, waiting can be months. It doesn't mean others should suffer ofc, just saying that it's bad for regular working folks everywhere
AI running trucks? Let's see it happen. One week of truckers across the country going on strike, and America would be on its knees. You'd have riots in the streets. Two, and you'd have hundreds starving in their homes. Let's see the corpos implement AI truck drivers in that time. The drivers across the country have massive bargaining power right now. They better use it while they can. If they're being forced to do it, they may as well take hostages, figuratively speaking.
The exploitation of work-purposed individuals alongside the propaganda that goes against the unification of workers will always be why these Texans find themselves working endlessly. The discussion around the exploitation of religious southerners needs to be resurfaced and discussed because this is a historical issue.
I was a truck driver for 20 years and it always the same old. You can’t get truckers organized for nothing. I hope someday it happens but it was dog eat dog out there.
@Praisethesunson Organizing truckers will be even harder to do when the Republicans gut the NLRB which is part of Project 2025. Let’s gut all the progress labor has made in this country to own the liberals! Sometimes you have to wonder if these people deserve the circumstances they make for themselves.
Truckers have a union. Teamsters is one of the strongest. These guys aren't in it. Too many truckers are stubborn individualistic conservatives who think they're better than being in a union, vote Republican, and hate any government regulation of the industry's worst practices. You think this being shot in Texas is a coincidence?
Former frac sand hauler here - I’ve been charged for getting out of my truck because I thought I had a flat and charged for leaving the truck to use a shitty porta potty and was told to “ give up my spot in line and wait in the back “ I’m glad that these gentlemen are doing something about this , it’s a huge problem in the industry
Haliburton is an infrastructure company that takes contracts from all sources . The fact that some of the juiciest contracts come from the DOD doesn't make Haliburton another Lockheed Martin . They were involved in the oil and gas business long before the general public ever heard of them or Dick Cheney ...
They bring their own workers from out of state and sometimes another country. They drill everywhere, stay in luxury rvs in rv parks set up just for them. They add nothing to local economy. State takes money from oil companies, but where it goes, no one knows!
Halliburton's CEO is Jeff Miller. His total yearly compensation is $19,910,000 , comprised of 8% salary and 92% bonuses. He was paid 261 times the median annual total compensation of $76,266.
@@rickybobby7276he worked neither 293 times smarter nor harder than the average worker. In reality, he probably spent 1-2 hours a week on phone calls that were pertinent and 5 more bullshitting with people that he think's like him at work.
How much of that was money that should have gone to workers? Hard work my ass, this country doesn't believe in that at all. It believes in just robbing people.
My friend, who is an owner-operator, worked that job for 2 weeks and then he dropped their trailer and bob tailed all the way back to Maryland. They paid him just enough for the fuel to get home; this is after a few 24-hour waits to unload at the well.
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@@rickybobby7276Did you watch the video? If they leave that lot they'll lose their job. But the lot has no water or bathrooms, some are there almost two days waiting
Trucker here, I haul diesel to these frack sites in the permian basin. I see these guys waiting in huge lines all the time. This man speaks the truth about the sand haulers. The issue I see is that these guys are hiring guys from cuba or Mexico, diapatch doesn't give a shit about you having to wait. The people that run these fracs have terrible communication with dispatch. They are told that the work is easy and that they would make a great living, but that's not true. They end up trapped here with the burden of paying a truck thats making peanuts. Beware of these predatory jobs!
Exactly....the guys they hire never had a decent job so they do it for almost nothing, and then they are the dangerous drivers out there that have no cares about safety.
@@mrlevhil You realize that's a circular problem, right? There's a shortage of drivers, so they start hiring foreign workers who accept lower pay. The lower pay makes US citizens less willing to do the job, so they hire more foreign workers... This is why unions exist. If everyone supported unions, and refused to use or accept shipments delivered by non-union drivers, then the corporations would not be able to suppress wages or mistreat workers. "Rugged individualism" is a macho crock pushed by those who want to profit by taking advantage of powerless individual workers.
Exactly, I haul water in North Dakota and do considerably well, yet I see time and time again foreigners short loading and stealing from the oil companies then complaining they aren’t making any money because they continue to blacklist themselves
I worked 14 hours today. I got paid for 467 miles at .58 per mile. No overtime. Trucking companies are paying like this across the board. If you try to unionize they fire you and you’re blackballed. Unless we all come together nothing will ever change. We starve when we do we starve when we don’t.
@@watamatafoyu because of exactly what he said, they arent organized enough to confront the corporations that do this. also because the government lets them get away with these inhumane practices, which is silly. they're not doing it "because they have the leverage" they're doing it because they're ALLOWED to do it. it doesnt matter how much leverage they have, if they arent allowed to do it they would eventually be sued into the ground.
Finally it's being said...this is not "American" oil. It belongs to Billionaires. Stop making these billionaires richer!!! Stop giving them tax breaks because it does not benefit you in any way shape or form.
Was a trucker back in early 90s...Worked for a LTL company that was under Teamsters National Freight Agreement. Night and Day versus today. Deregulation in 1980 ruined the trucking industry. Now we have sweat shops on wheels. Organize is answer, but so is re-regulation
@@juliemanta3750 Actually, it was Jimmy Carter's deal. He pushed for deregulation. I was truck driver back then. What Reagan did was put a lot more money in my pocket when he lowered the tax rate. Under Carter, I would ask my boss to not pay me past 11 hours a week overtime because it put me in a higher tax bracket. Reagan cut taxes across the board and I up'd my hours to 75 a week and was keeping a heck of a lot more of it. Money was good under Reagan.
It’s a joke, this is why you need an actual free market and to stop subsidizing the people they want to win in the market. The system is designed to steal from us and give to the people that already have all the money. The vast majority of welfare in this country goes to Billionaires.
if those subsidies where paid to the american residents, all 330 million it would take 57 years to pay everyone one million, and everyone would earn more then federal minimum wage as an base UBI during the payments. It would make an economic boom for everyone.
@@AnonymousAnarchist2math checks out, given that the subsidies does. However even if they are, I am a bit unsure on the type of subsidies (which could skew the amount of return on removed subsidies). Aswell as the increase in gas prices and overall inflation coming from everyone getting that amount. Not to mention the overall impact on the economy coming from more expensive oil. Its an insane amount of money, but it just goes to show how important the oil is for the economy
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I'm a farmer I don't get overtime, I am ruining my body and don't get healthcare. All because it's the only well paying job in the area even without benefits
I've been a truck driver for 30 years. Presently I'm 74. I don't think I can do it anymore. I know what this man's talking about but organizing a I don't think it will ever work cuz you got people who are always desperate for money and they'll be willing to work for less. That's the problem
You think job recruiters are going to tell you about the crappy conditions? The oil companies will find people willing to do this crap work from where ever for peanuts. Oil rich countries in the middle east have been doing these kind of exploitive things for decades.
That started to happen the moment they all agreed to stay in line and came back again, to be disrespected. You all don't show up, they take the sands up their asses and you all get better pay. Have some self respect, damn it!
Right, they're are getting abused and are complaining about getting abused but keep going back to get...abused some more..how about..idk don't go back..i mean look at these guys, there's not 2 brain cells between the ears
The fact that the lines are so long also means that the bottleneck with how quickly they can transport sand is how fast they can get it into trucks, which is honestly kinda dumb (and they try to paper over it by not paying the drivers)
Respect. As a professional door swinger, I will never complain about a receiver, making me wait seven hours to unload a frozen load again. Stay strong brothers!
The entire trucking industry should be torn down and rebuilt form the bottom. I used to have a class A license in the early 2010s, and even tried out over the road work until realizing that it’s not appealing to me, and moving on to other projects. To this day, trucking companies remain the only work environment I ever encountered where EVERYONE lies. Like, 100% of people. Drivers lie about the distances that they have driven in order not to go over legal limits, and companies screw their drivers on pay and conditions, in a way that it is possible to actually lose money despite working your butt off (John Oliver did a good special on it). Lousy industry that is being steadily destroyed by dishonesty and greed.
Electronic logs can stop the cheating. Last I checked most truck drivers are paid by load or mileage. As soon as automated trucks can do the job most drivers will be let go.
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As someone who hauled in west texas oil for 7 years, most of this video is correct but not all of it. Most of the people in the video spoke spanish for a reason and those people are greatly abused out there and brokers give 0 shits about them. English speakers are prioritized. I left the industry cause of work conditions as well. 90 plus hour work weeks, 14-16 hour days, 7 days, non stop back and fourth between sites and loading to make maybe 6k net on the best week. (Which is after fuel and all overhead is paid) money was good but conditions arent.The roads are dirt and tear up your truck like nothing. Bathrooms dont exist and you have to stock up your fridge with water from the heat in summers, even kept around 10 gallons of water under the bunk. Portable toilet for shitting in bags and only easy food on the stomuch cause your far from anything if you get sick.only time you can really sleep is unload, and thats maybe 2 hours max. Id do 2 weeks on 5 days off. But just like everything in trucking, our wages have decreased not gone up, not stayed the same, they have gone down with inflation. (A trucker made 125k in 2003, now he makes 100k..example not correct numbers) and so has the respect of our job in the last 30 years. We keep america running but yet were treated like insects, when in reality we could halt every job in the us and shut down the economy if we all stopped working. Just like the body you can only do so much damage to your blood before something goes. Then were all fucked, next time you see a trucker just tell em thanks for what he does. Say you appreciate him being away from his family for 2,3,5,6 weeks at a time just so when you go home you have food in the fridge, clothes for your kids, and any products you use for your job(career) are there so you can make a living to feed your family. Buy a trucker lunch at your local truck stop, buy him a 24 pack of water. we do this job cause we love it and we know how important we are. Even with the constant disrespect from drivers in cars, shippers, recievers, and the government.
Imagine you in a parking lot of an American owned mine in the DR Congo to make a delivery. After waiting in their parking lot for a week they move you to the lay down area. Still no toilets or area to get food or water. After 4 days you cant stop coughing because they have you next to and down wind to the sulphur stowage yard. You dont see anyone in 2 days so you go looking for somone and get fined 2000 dollars for moving without an escort. Eventually they offload you on day 5 at the lay down area. Now they take your papers to go get stamped and only return them back 3 days later. So you spend 14 days making the delivery. If you try bill them they respond that they only pay anyting above 9 days. You point out you spent 14 days. They respond , you cant count week ends and they countbfrom when they fetch you from the parking lot not not tge week you waited on them. To when they take the cargo off , not the 3 days extra they take to hand your documents back after that. This is not even an exception, average is a week to 2 weeks at the mine. The Canadian , Australian and Chinese owned mines are the same. I stopped delivering there and the forwarders like Bollore/AGL , DHL ....... think Im stubborn because I don't want to accept loads to there any more.
I feel very sad to hear these stories of hard working people. They have the right to have a decent life and decent working conditions. I wish you all strength.
I totally understand, I have 3 brothers who work very hard as truck drivers over the years dealing with greedy corporations. Truck Drivers are Human Beings & Deserve Respect!🚚 🚛 ❤️🔥💯
I’m only 6 months in and looking for an exit plan. I don’t know how my Dad did this for almost 3 decades! My respect level for him has gone completely up! Stay safe. I have so much respect for those who have done this to provide for their families and endured so much! It sucks your complete life away! I work for the orange company getting .53 per mile on a dedicated account. The most I’ve ever seen after taxes about $1000. 😅 I know it’s in the endorsements and the experience but it just doesn’t seem worth it. I want my life back!
Basically they are counting on people entering the business not realizing what they are getting themselves into, and then squeezing as much profit out of them as they can before they suffer burnout. Of course the problem with this is that over the LONG term it gradually becomes common knowledge that this line of work is more likely to put you IN debt than help you pay your debts off.
@@darknagaadventures7884 They will never do that which is why drivers are exempted from the federal labor standards act. If they paid me for every hour I actually work my pay would bump up by at least 20% and that's not counting if it was overtime rates
It happens more than just there. I pull refrigerated goods Same thing. No rest room, no vending machines, no parking. "Go wait in your truck" Oscar you are fighting the good fight. Keep up the good work. Hopefully it will spread everywhere. Drivers need to quit abusing the amenities we do have... maybe things will change for the better Be safe out there 🙏
Trump did it again that's where we are it's still his economic tinkle down plan check the facts ......CEO getting wealthy ! Now this ! Bastards we need to get them out of our government
@athalyerajan2823 now you know why the Republicans hate electric cars so much..... gives a chance for someone else to make some money and they don't wanna lose their oil money. Old wealth never wants to make room for new wealth.
yeah i couldnt work knowing i was helping them do fracking. i'm not blaming these truckers i'm just saying i couldn't do it knowing how bad fracking is. corporate propaganda is strong. people still deny climate change exists and people still think cigarettes don't cause cancer.
No kidding on the environmental damage this does. Texas' Permian basin just had a 4.9 earthquake this week; last year there were at least 7. Increasing in frequency too. Madness!
yes. The damage is tremendious. But the Truckers will be needed even after we switch energy sources. Even to absolute renewables we need chemical energy storage (and thats what fossil fuels are) and chemical energy needs transport. So we need to fight for the truckers, alongside every other worker, even the drillers who can transition to drilling heat pipes that reduce energy dependance; no skill is useless, and no skill will go un-needed if we are wise, clever and compassionate.
It’s not the fracking wells themselves, it’s the disposal wells from the fracking wells. When they pump the waste water back into the ground, into the disposal wells, this causes the earthquakes. I used to live 1/4 mile from one in Oklahoma. We had many earthquakes daily, from 3 to 5 point. I now live 50 or so miles from the deepest undersea trench on the planet…the Pacific rim. Now, I experience a few earthquakes a year.
The thing is people need to all realise we're in it together and getting together and doing something about it gives you more power than going it alone.
I love Billy!!! He made such a huge impression on me in the last video he was in, thank you so much for elevating his and these other truckers voices! ✊❤️
I worked for 10 years in the oilfields of North Dakota. Worked when it was -60 and in the mud. At first it was good. Free housing and good money. Then the slow downs started. Like these gentleman. They started taking away. You work for 13-14 hours a day. When it was hot when it was so dam cold that metal breaks. Now there’s no was in hell I would go back.
I'd say it's the only fight in the world! Has been for a long time, and the sooner people quit squabbling over nonsense and realize the power we hold over the tiny minority of rich assholes that exploit us, the sooner we can win against them. They need us; we don't need them.
Woops. Seems I used TH-cam no-no words again. Let's try this again. But that's class reductionist. And that's bad. Andsexist. Andracist. And several other cherrypicked words used by the L's I know to distract from the real issue at play.
Yea that's why they pay someone else to deal with it. Owner operator = slavery on wheels for most of em. The cost doesn't stop at the expensive truck. Tires alone can cost almost 10 grand. Throw in brakes, fuel, repairs, being at the whim of international freight rates and it all points to one path. Financial destitution. You can go drive for Messer, make 80 grand a year and not have your ass on the line for owning a money pit on wheels. Truck breaks? Not your problem. Blow a brake chamber? Road call doesn't come out of your pocket. Gotta get towed to a shop? Also not your problem.
Yup. They love 1099ing people and labeling everyone an independent contractor. It's criminal. They don't pay any benefits or proper taxes to the government. Which nets them max profit while they pay pennies. The government refuses to do anything about it. Companies need to hire employees and not be allowed to label everyone an independent contractor. Especially because most the time the workers are actually employees to the companies.
How about not voting for Republicans, you guys are such suckers for Republicans, I know a lot of truckers, and most of them are voting for Trump, stop, whining, and crying then.
I salute the channel For covering these stories and wouldn't coach this channel for keep on shining?A light on these issues keep supporting our truckers for better treatment.
Actually, that’s what FOUNDED this country for the most part. We said “enough is enough” to entitled, petty pricks and started a war to get what we wanted
@@yojojo3000no shit, your actually is erroneous. We fought against that and WON to found this country. We have circled back around to losing with nearly no recourse.
All they have to do is say no stop hauling it cheap and the price WILL go up that it no one cares if they complain as long as they are still hauling the load
I hauled sand for propX pronghorn for the past 2 months. The other day they had me waiting 18 hours so I quit and came home. They ain’t lying about the lines being so long that people were shitting by their trucks on the lease roads
I was an over the road driver... I was a company driver, so the expenses were not mine... but they sure waste your time and want you to hurry to make up for it... I'm now home every day and not missing the industry that really is the backbone of America...
because robots aren't as exploitable as humans. You can abuse humans six ways to sunday and replace dirt cheap of you need to. Robot need proper care, and if you don't take care of them its expensive to repair and replace them
I was an owner operator leased to a company out of Ft Worth in 2018 and was forced to pay for a chassis and move boxes to Kermit tx from Big Springs Tx for free after middle man decided not to pay me, excuse was that Haliburton wasn't going to pay, couldn't afford to idle my truck to stay warm, i was forced delease my truck and get no pay because of chassis lease cost took my revenue, never have been back.
@@matthewheinze1231 thank you Matt for your response I take that you experienced this as well, yes it was a good decision but a very costly decision, my livelihood, my truck, my commercial credit,my savings, everything and the aggravation of not being able to find any help to protect my business from all the financial aggression, there's no protection for the small business owner, if you are unable to afford corporate legal defense then you are expendable.
@@heartlessangel1460 Not defending Halliburton in any way but they are NOT an oil company. They are an oilfield services company. There is quite a difference.
I once worked a fast food job and a fellow worker got his minimum wage paycheck and said, "if it ain't about the money it ain't about nothin" as if he was making stock broker money.
Everyone should be aware every additional cost will roll down hill to the consumer. The simple solution is for trucks to stop hauling sand. When the sand stops moving. Producers will pay more.
I really wish people would stop complaining about the cost to the consumer. No one wants to pay more for something, but our attitude is exactly the reason why the federal minimum wage is an abysmal $7.25/hr and why truck drivers are forced to sit for 20 hours in sweltering heat with no bathrooms, water, food, or pay along with a slew of other human rights violations/issues both at home and abroad in order to "keep costs low." You cannot have it both ways. You can either pay what it costs to produce the product fairly and equitably, or you can have low wages and deplorable working conditions. And this doesn't just impact truckers. It impacts ALL of us. By basically saying that we're okay with any atrocities as long as it doesn't impact the cost to us, we're also agreeing to terrible conditions in our own work environment. I was a public school teacher, and people made the same arguments there too: They weren't interested increasing pay, fixing delapidated buildings, hiring more staff to take some of the load off, etc. because no one wants to pay for it; even as the quality of education diminishes and public school teachers leave the profession in droves leaving schools even more short-staffed. Then people complain that our school system sucks. All of the double standards and hypocricy are infuriating. You cannot get something for nothing, and if you're going to pay for it anyway, why not pay more, get better quality, and improve everyone's lives in the process?
Stop driving/hauling for these companies. The driver market is oversaturated in that part of the industry. Partly thanks to the Biden / Moon Crater Harris immigration policies that allow cheap labor to pour into the country. There are now more people that are willing to drive for pennies and don't mind the conditions because it is better than what they have.
It's the same bs when you drive for big food companies. I made more money 15 years ago at the same company. And the potato chip company I work for has tripled the prices.
I’ve worked in frac/drilling in the Permian for years. The simplest solution for the bathrooms on location is a portable facility. All that is cleaner Porta Jons. It is impossible to build bathrooms and facilities because frac does not stay forever. A pad can last 2 weeks or 2 months but they are never permanent. That’s why everything is mobile. As for waiting and not getting paid, they should be getting demurrage. Only issue with that is that the cost for all those trucks demurrage will be pushed to another service company to be paid. At the end of the day, the root problem is the operator. ie companies like ( Exxon, oxy, chevron, eog, etc) They control just about everything when it comes to rates
Yes, Texas is a right-to-work state, which means that employment cannot be denied or conditioned based on union membership or non-membership. This law was passed in 1993 and is outlined in the Texas Labor Code (§§101.052-.053). However, unions are not banned in right-to-work states, and in Texas, educators and school employees can choose to join a union without fear of reprisal. The law also broadens the definition of "labor union" to include any organization that aims to improve working conditions, wages, or employment. Once a union is certified, it is legally obligated to represent all employees in its covered positions, regardless of membership or dues.
I do financial for small business, the cost of Insurance, Fuel, dues for state mandatory tracking,maint for trucks, has increased by over 50 percent in the last 7 yrs. And the price per mile has literally remained static. Its absolutely crazy, that every other business sector has had increases to their end user of 35% and truckers are left barely break even. And the disrespect they get on the roads everyday, the disrespect they get just picking up products is beyond malicious, load appt set at 1pm not loading till 6pm, disgraceful!. I truly hope you get everything each of u mentioned. Because you have earned it.
SOLUTION: REFUSE THE LOAD! Since these Owner Operators are not employees, organizing a union for them will be extremely difficult. However, they can simply REFUSE to make any deliveries to the site until/ unless major improvements are made! After some time, of having no drivers willing to come, the site owners will be forced to make reasonable improvements. Portable toilets, maybe a food truck to buy meals from etc.
Then the broker bench you for 2 weeks. Bring on 10 new trucks (you sit and monitor the threads and see it happen real time) and you either scrambled to get loads elsewhere, which takes time or go broke waiting.
@@robertnice3060 There's other brokers the truckers can go to, and with the huge demand for drivers, they should have no problem finding better options.
yeah these ceos need to reinvest in their business and get nicer trucks to drive. if the owner is driving a 40 year old truck what are these guys employees driving
Not enough space. Most larger sleeper trucks have small coolers or fridges/microwaves if the truck has a APU. No space for toilets, waste storage and no facilities for unloading waste. Some guys have folding toilet seats and cat litter in a bag but it's obviously for emergencies only. Driving a truck sucks now. No one lets you use their bathrooms and truck parking is abysmal in many states. Waiting unpaid is not a new thing or limited to this specific section of the industry. You could easily be waiting 6-20 hours at a shipper with no access to facilities outside your truck
@@robertsmith2300 I have all of those things plus a bathing station in my freightliner cascadia. My toilet flushes, seals and fits under my bunk, the bottom seperates from the top to be poured out when full. I've never had to use a public restroom in my entire trucking career. Also because of my eminities I can park virtually anywhere I fit. Trucking is great.
as a former truck driver, and also a woman. its not just this place (oil companies) that does all this, the bathroom situation is much worse for women. its in my opinion inhumane for both, just worse for women. there are also a lot of trans drivers so compound the issues with bathrooms for drivers x2 in that case.
gig and contractor economy summed up nicely. You're not an employee so you don't get protections. You don't exist on the books, you're just a question mark. *This is what every corporation wants.*
Not that this is fair how they are ripped off by billion-dollar companies, but I wouldn't use that port a john. You can buy a camping toilet that you can sit on and then dump the waste in a plastic bag in the dumpster. Isn't there room in the back of the cab to squat on a little stool? Then I would keep a big cooler in the back filled with ice and drinks. It is like they are being forced to camp out there. They should get paid what they are worth. If no one hauls the sand, the whole process of selling the oil comes to a halt. I hope no evil befalls this man trying to organize for their rights. These corporations can play dirty.
Has anyone noticed that Texas, with all that oil money, looks like a dump compared to Dubai with all that oil money? Where's the oil wealth going in the USA? Oil is a natural resource that belongs to the citizens of the USA. How come Americans never see a penny? Dubai funds a luxurious life for their citizens. So does Norway. So does the Netherlands. The American regime has to go!
In your gulf states, they have just as many shithole looking areas. They just don't publicize it. They use a ton of southeast asian migrant workers that do it all from construction to truck driving to janitorial etc. keeping the country running. The "luxurious lifestyle" that these oil nations show the world is still paid for by shit on workers who are not treated with dignity and respect. Norway and the Netherlands have a similar thing but it is not nearly as exploitative as the gulf states.
No the oil does not belong to the citizens of the USA. It belongs to the company paying to pull it out of the ground. You spend your $$$$ to buy a drilling rig and drill 10-12000 ft into the earth and put a pump jack on that well once completed that oil belongs to YOU not me,or anyone else for that matter. These companies shell out millions and millions to get it extracted and even more to get it to market before they ever make the first dime off oil or even natural gas for that matter
Oklahoma has oil and couldn't keep their schools open 5 days a week or pay their teachers a decent wage. Those oil rich middle east countries like Dubai have been exploiting contract workers for decades.
I met Oscar when I was 12 I’m 24 now, what he says is true and it’s the reason that after 18-24 I’m leaving the trucking industries because it doesn’t pay Today I recommend people not to be a truck driver, I recommended they find a more specialized job and niche
As a 0/0 myself nothing is gonna change since the majority of the industry is republican who want the freedom to be exploited. However you also don’t gotta work out there, they took away detention pay and took away money because it go over saturated because people are willing to accept that unprofitable pay. All those drivers should have been abandoned the Texas oil fields
@@autodidact7127 No, they don't. As always, they *claim* they support things but when they get in power they will not budge on their promises. They always support the rich, not the workers.
Republicans do not support workers organizing. That is the only way to worker power. I also do not believe they should be fighting for these jobs. Their employer is crap. That business should be left in the dust. Republicans and probably some corporate democrats support that kind of business. No one will say they want to exploit workers, but their policy and business model is exploiting workers. This is what happens to people and workers whose bosses and industry do not give a crap about the planet.
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Right to work is company/employee. These guys have the right to not contract there. They actually work for themselves. They are owner/ops, they are a contractor. They are their own small business. So by contracting with this company they are in fact making a poor business decision as the owner.
Mt cousin use to drive trucks he told me he keeps 3 days of food in the truck at all time, a 5 gallon bucket to pee in said that he was stuck waiting for a load once with no food he learned his lesson on that one
This is the reason I won't vote for anyone who says they're a business person. They accept money (called campaign donations) from these big corporations. That only means big corporations make the rule and big government enforce them. Imagine a company in the U.S. abusing their employees like this. Unsat!
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I worked in North Dakota 2013-2015 hauling sand and crude.
Owner operator.
We made 75$ an hour demurge (parking waiting time) after an hour on site. I sat for 3 days one time getting paid.
Rates to haul sand was well paid 2500 - 3500 a day was normal. Every day all day.
Then after 2015 they slowly started taking everything away.
I left
People kept showing up and companies kept taking away.
As long as people show up, the company will
Continue to lower rates.
Stops showing up. Watch things change.
You said it truthful
Amazing I hear execs say if they pay any better they'll lose all the jobs, go out of business, and prices will skyrocket. All while price-gouging, cutting workers to the bone, and inflating their wealth and bonuses and corporate profits and shareholder dividends. It's pure evil greed when they can still be rich paying people well.
It's ridiculous to expect people who need an income to survive to police these corporations. It needs to be government action.
This is what I was thinking. These guys are owner/ operators and it sounds like an overly saturated market.
As for porta potty's, welcome to every construction site/ well pad in America. They're gross and hot. It sucks but it is what it is. Get in and get out.
You said the problem right there. "People kept showing up."
Don't take cheap freight.
I'm so tired of working class folks being fucked over by wealthy people with no empathy.
Imagine someone who could eat a large meal in front a starving child, and throw half of it away before taking a nice long nap.
Now imagine, that is exactly who's in power
Go make me a sammich.
@@DeenanTheKemon1Foolishness from them,what they sow is what they reap
Whille im sad that this had to happen in order for them to realise this, i am none the less happy that thease workers finally realised that they have to stand up for their rights because their employers, and this assbackwards system wont untill its radically changed !
If employers knew no one would stand for this, they wouldnt do what they do!
Whille its the abusers fault for doing the abuse, its the victims fault for not setting up any boundries, espcially when the workers have the upper hand in everything except for trust in their fellow coworkers, the understanding that they dont have to sacrifice their lives for a good life and for a good econony, and the courage to act !
The kind of system we have is like when in school all the kids are afraid of that one bully that screws over everyone.
At some point, we do it to ourselves and eachother, and the oportunistic slime, just nudge us to go against one another.
This is why we need to push for better education.
The biggest reason of is why this is happening is the lack of education, and the right wing think tanks have been trying to worsten education even more
Just look at what pregar U is doing. Its pushing their programs into schools, and they have succeeded in making their grooming not only legal, but instituded within seval schools, in Ohio ( i believe it was Ohio, but you can fact check)
Back to the main topic.
This is a horrendous display of power, that provoked a great thing to happen!
Lets support thease drivers and all other workers in any way we can!
Have a great day everyone!
It's not the big company it's the drivers excepting cheap load under cutting each other
People need to wake up because soon the whole country is heading this way regardless of who you work for.
Good if youre a business owner.
@@TheMadGameArchitect A lot of these folks are their own business owners as independent truckers.
@@MrSubsound90 I dont care, i suffer in life too.
And yes, even if youre rich you can suffer a lot. So i dont understand why you think giving them more money would make them necessarily happier.
Plus as a business owner, i mean the real business owners, it makes no sense to pay more than necessary for a trucker.
Join a union. solidarity
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Sand hauling is brutal. I did it for a couple of years and I wouldn’t wish this job to my worst enemy. Nearly all them companies are violating DOT and running around the clock. Truckers are treated like shit, and no one pays for the time waiting. I have been up to 3 days at a well waiting to get unloaded. There needs to be a Class Action Lawsuit against these giants.
Stop showing up
@@Libertad59 I have been out for about 3 months. Never again.
You're the problem for waiting 3 days. 🤦3rd
World country uneducated truckers are the problem.
All trucks now Must have eld's, you can't cheat that thing!
@@mr.skeptical3071 indeed. Fracking is generally exempt. But that it is even worse, because they want you to live inside the truck and never go home despite being local.
It should be a crime to make truckers wait for hours and days without pay, food, or water. Absolutely disgusting.
It is actually in Canada, but no one has challenged it within the USA so far as I know. In Canada, its illegal to interfere with anyones bodily function. Impossing a fine would also be illegal, firing would be illegal. Its even in our labour codes in Canada. Dont have to wait for your regular breaks, to use a washroom or in need of food/water/etc.(retired trucker here)
It is. These guys won't do anything because half are illegels
Oh you haven''t seen truckers working in east europe, waiting can be months. It doesn't mean others should suffer ofc, just saying that it's bad for regular working folks everywhere
"You broke our backs, now we're going to break your f****** economy" - Billy Randel, 2024
My god what a line lol
And break yourself out of a job by breaking said economy, all while AI is also now doing what you do. Time to switch industries.
AI running trucks? Let's see it happen. One week of truckers across the country going on strike, and America would be on its knees. You'd have riots in the streets. Two, and you'd have hundreds starving in their homes. Let's see the corpos implement AI truck drivers in that time. The drivers across the country have massive bargaining power right now. They better use it while they can.
If they're being forced to do it, they may as well take hostages, figuratively speaking.
@@HootieTangOnly delaying the inevitable.
It won't be long until capitalism doesn't require any human beings at all.
@@HootieTangAI trucking?
@@Pernection Yes.
The exploitation of work-purposed individuals alongside the propaganda that goes against the unification of workers will always be why these Texans find themselves working endlessly. The discussion around the exploitation of religious southerners needs to be resurfaced and discussed because this is a historical issue.
Well put!
Exploitation is subjective.
@@TheMadGameArchitect Please, go on...
What do you mean?
@@VVVVV99611 How do you objectively measure exploitation? And assuming youre an atheist, why would it be wrong to exploit others?
They voted for the freedom to be exploited by mega corporations, so they should get all the freedom they've asked for
I was a truck driver for 20 years and it always the same old. You can’t get truckers organized for nothing. I hope someday it happens but it was dog eat dog out there.
2 decades out of almost 5 decades of reaganomics
Organizing truckers is hard to do. Some serfs just refuse to see the station they are in.
All they gotta do is introduce truckers to WhatsApp and group chats. Then you will see organizing.
@Praisethesunson Organizing truckers will be even harder to do when the Republicans gut the NLRB which is part of Project 2025. Let’s gut all the progress labor has made in this country to own the liberals! Sometimes you have to wonder if these people deserve the circumstances they make for themselves.
Reagan and the decommissioning of trucking was a step back for workers rights. Now it’s just a joke, they wonder why nobody wants to drive.
That old guy has such charisma, he could really help organize that union
Truckers have a union. Teamsters is one of the strongest. These guys aren't in it.
Too many truckers are stubborn individualistic conservatives who think they're better than being in a union, vote Republican, and hate any government regulation of the industry's worst practices. You think this being shot in Texas is a coincidence?
Steve: Time, please?
@TH-camUserCMXVIyour confused. ICDI
@@TH-camUserCMXVIICDI Shot by whom -- union workers?!
Former frac sand hauler here - I’ve been charged for getting out of my truck because I thought I had a flat and charged for leaving the truck to use a shitty porta potty and was told to “ give up my spot in line and wait in the back “
I’m glad that these gentlemen are doing something about this , it’s a huge problem in the industry
Halibuton is a defense contractor, it has the morst horrible work conditions, it is oushing truckers into the unions
Haliburton is an infrastructure company that takes contracts from all sources . The fact that some of the juiciest contracts come from the DOD doesn't make Haliburton another Lockheed Martin . They were involved in the oil and gas business long before the general public ever heard of them or Dick Cheney ...
Cheney 😡
@@Freedom_Half_Offexactly!
spell check and edit, but i 100% agree
They bring their own workers from out of state and sometimes another country. They drill everywhere, stay in luxury rvs in rv parks set up just for them. They add nothing to local economy. State takes money from oil companies, but where it goes, no one knows!
Halliburton's CEO is Jeff Miller. His total yearly compensation is $19,910,000 , comprised of 8% salary and 92% bonuses. He was paid 261 times the median annual total compensation of $76,266.
@@rickybobby7276 Sure. Just like all his truck drivers earn every penny they aren't being paid, that instead goes into his pocket.
@@rickybobby7276he worked neither 293 times smarter nor harder than the average worker. In reality, he probably spent 1-2 hours a week on phone calls that were pertinent and 5 more bullshitting with people that he think's like him at work.
@@burchified he has a higher IQ than you do,go educate yourself and maybe one day you can make that money.
How much of that was money that should have gone to workers? Hard work my ass, this country doesn't believe in that at all. It believes in just robbing people.
@@rickybobby7276 you sir are the problem
Corporate greed infuriates me.
its a natural byproduct of capitalism. The people with the power are not going to just give it up.
Does politician greed aka FASCISM infuriate you, too?
"Capitalism infuriates me"
Fixed it for you
@@skyisreallyhigh3333yes, much better to be a slave to our government than to work for your wages huh??? 🤦🏻
@@FreefallSC Bruh, this video is about a man working under capitalism and making zero money.
So...
My friend, who is an owner-operator, worked that job for 2 weeks and then he dropped their trailer and bob tailed all the way back to Maryland. They paid him just enough for the fuel to get home; this is after a few 24-hour waits to unload at the well.
I’m also in MD. I know he’d make better money driving a dump truck hauling asphalt than sand in Texas right now
Good for him!!!! That is what drivers/owners have to do. Refuse cheap freight.
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To not let people go to the restroom is just inhumane.
In Australia it's illegal.
Abbott just stuck down outdoor workers right to water breaks here in Texas. They say they're for the working class but their policies make them hypocrites!
@@nicholasgallanis7539he's a shabbos goy
@@rickybobby7276Did you watch the video? If they leave that lot they'll lose their job. But the lot has no water or bathrooms, some are there almost two days waiting
@@jjj6446 Perhaps they can start their own oil business? Would that be hard to do?
Trucker here, I haul diesel to these frack sites in the permian basin. I see these guys waiting in huge lines all the time. This man speaks the truth about the sand haulers. The issue I see is that these guys are hiring guys from cuba or Mexico, diapatch doesn't give a shit about you having to wait. The people that run these fracs have terrible communication with dispatch. They are told that the work is easy and that they would make a great living, but that's not true. They end up trapped here with the burden of paying a truck thats making peanuts. Beware of these predatory jobs!
Exactly....the guys they hire never had a decent job so they do it for almost nothing, and then they are the dangerous drivers out there that have no cares about safety.
That's the ENTIRE trucking industry. The rates are going down because foreign "truck drivers" take lower and lower rates.
@@mrlevhil You realize that's a circular problem, right?
There's a shortage of drivers, so they start hiring foreign workers who accept lower pay. The lower pay makes US citizens less willing to do the job, so they hire more foreign workers...
This is why unions exist. If everyone supported unions, and refused to use or accept shipments delivered by non-union drivers, then the corporations would not be able to suppress wages or mistreat workers.
"Rugged individualism" is a macho crock pushed by those who want to profit by taking advantage of powerless individual workers.
@@mrlevhilyup and that’s gonna continue to happen because they don’t care about low wages how they say they do. They are just simply happy to be here.
Exactly, I haul water in North Dakota and do considerably well, yet I see time and time again foreigners short loading and stealing from the oil companies then complaining they aren’t making any money because they continue to blacklist themselves
I worked 14 hours today. I got paid for 467 miles at .58 per mile. No overtime. Trucking companies are paying like this across the board. If you try to unionize they fire you and you’re blackballed. Unless we all come together nothing will ever change. We starve when we do we starve when we don’t.
Less than 20$ an hour. That's insane
They're doing it because they have the leverage. Why do they have the leverage?
@@mistaboogie21 I don't care if they complain it's too much, they should be giving you guys at least $50/hour!
Trucking unions exist for dump drivers tho
@@watamatafoyu because of exactly what he said, they arent organized enough to confront the corporations that do this. also because the government lets them get away with these inhumane practices, which is silly.
they're not doing it "because they have the leverage" they're doing it because they're ALLOWED to do it. it doesnt matter how much leverage they have, if they arent allowed to do it they would eventually be sued into the ground.
Finally it's being said...this is not "American" oil. It belongs to Billionaires.
Stop making these billionaires richer!!! Stop giving them tax breaks because it does not benefit you in any way shape or form.
Was a trucker back in early 90s...Worked for a LTL company that was under Teamsters National Freight Agreement. Night and Day versus today. Deregulation in 1980 ruined the trucking industry. Now we have sweat shops on wheels. Organize is answer, but so is re-regulation
Truthful said
Thank Reaganomics, trickle down and corporate greed
@@juliemanta3750 Actually, it was Jimmy Carter's deal. He pushed for deregulation. I was truck driver back then. What Reagan did was put a lot more money in my pocket when he lowered the tax rate. Under Carter, I would ask my boss to not pay me past 11 hours a week overtime because it put me in a higher tax bracket. Reagan cut taxes across the board and I up'd my hours to 75 a week and was keeping a heck of a lot more of it. Money was good under Reagan.
The fossil fuel industry gets subsidies of $11 million a minute.
It’s a joke, this is why you need an actual free market and to stop subsidizing the people they want to win in the market. The system is designed to steal from us and give to the people that already have all the money. The vast majority of welfare in this country goes to Billionaires.
if those subsidies where paid to the american residents, all 330 million it would take 57 years to pay everyone one million, and everyone would earn more then federal minimum wage as an base UBI during the payments.
It would make an economic boom for everyone.
@@AnonymousAnarchist2math checks out, given that the subsidies does.
However even if they are, I am a bit unsure on the type of subsidies (which could skew the amount of return on removed subsidies). Aswell as the increase in gas prices and overall inflation coming from everyone getting that amount. Not to mention the overall impact on the economy coming from more expensive oil.
Its an insane amount of money, but it just goes to show how important the oil is for the economy
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It's atrocious how the "people" in charge treat the back bone of society (teachers, truck drivers, farmers, etc)
General strike then
I'm a farmer I don't get overtime, I am ruining my body and don't get healthcare. All because it's the only well paying job in the area even without benefits
These 1% types think they’re better than us
No teachers are government employees that are told the propaganda they must feed your kids...
An uncompassionate human is not human, they're just automatons with holes to feed.
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correct, but if they dont, I have no sympathy for self inflicted suffering.
They've signed a contract with the banks by buying houses, cars, credit, they have to work by voluntary FORCE
Exactly....voluntary abuse and enslavement
@@DellikkilleD Agreed, if you're not getting paid and keep working for the same entity, it's on you.
Sometimes... I wish that they would ALL stop working for just 72 hours.
I've been a truck driver for 30 years. Presently I'm 74. I don't think I can do it anymore. I know what this man's talking about but organizing a I don't think it will ever work cuz you got people who are always desperate for money and they'll be willing to work for less. That's the problem
zero bathroom access, fined for anything, pay to fuel up the truck, not paid when your waiting 6+hrs for a load. Why do people do this?
brain damage is my guess if they all said screw this they would get paid
You think job recruiters are going to tell you about the crappy conditions? The oil companies will find people willing to do this crap work from where ever for peanuts. Oil rich countries in the middle east have been doing these kind of exploitive things for decades.
That started to happen the moment they all agreed to stay in line and came back again, to be disrespected.
You all don't show up, they take the sands up their asses and you all get better pay.
Have some self respect, damn it!
Right, they're are getting abused and are complaining about getting abused but keep going back to get...abused some more..how about..idk don't go back..i mean look at these guys, there's not 2 brain cells between the ears
The fact that the lines are so long also means that the bottleneck with how quickly they can transport sand is how fast they can get it into trucks, which is honestly kinda dumb (and they try to paper over it by not paying the drivers)
A lot of these guys are sadly in a state where it seems like there isn't any other option
Exactly don't haul cheap freight.
Respect. As a professional door swinger, I will never complain about a receiver, making me wait seven hours to unload a frozen load again. Stay strong brothers!
The entire trucking industry should be torn down and rebuilt form the bottom. I used to have a class A license in the early 2010s, and even tried out over the road work until realizing that it’s not appealing to me, and moving on to other projects.
To this day, trucking companies remain the only work environment I ever encountered where EVERYONE lies. Like, 100% of people. Drivers lie about the distances that they have driven in order not to go over legal limits, and companies screw their drivers on pay and conditions, in a way that it is possible to actually lose money despite working your butt off (John Oliver did a good special on it). Lousy industry that is being steadily destroyed by dishonesty and greed.
Almost every industry in the USA. It's exploitation across the board.
Electronic logs can stop the cheating. Last I checked most truck drivers are paid by load or mileage.
As soon as automated trucks can do the job most drivers will be let go.
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As someone who hauled in west texas oil for 7 years, most of this video is correct but not all of it. Most of the people in the video spoke spanish for a reason and those people are greatly abused out there and brokers give 0 shits about them. English speakers are prioritized. I left the industry cause of work conditions as well. 90 plus hour work weeks, 14-16 hour days, 7 days, non stop back and fourth between sites and loading to make maybe 6k net on the best week. (Which is after fuel and all overhead is paid) money was good but conditions arent.The roads are dirt and tear up your truck like nothing. Bathrooms dont exist and you have to stock up your fridge with water from the heat in summers, even kept around 10 gallons of water under the bunk. Portable toilet for shitting in bags and only easy food on the stomuch cause your far from anything if you get sick.only time you can really sleep is unload, and thats maybe 2 hours max. Id do 2 weeks on 5 days off. But just like everything in trucking, our wages have decreased not gone up, not stayed the same, they have gone down with inflation. (A trucker made 125k in 2003, now he makes 100k..example not correct numbers) and so has the respect of our job in the last 30 years. We keep america running but yet were treated like insects, when in reality we could halt every job in the us and shut down the economy if we all stopped working. Just like the body you can only do so much damage to your blood before something goes. Then were all fucked, next time you see a trucker just tell em thanks for what he does. Say you appreciate him being away from his family for 2,3,5,6 weeks at a time just so when you go home you have food in the fridge, clothes for your kids, and any products you use for your job(career) are there so you can make a living to feed your family. Buy a trucker lunch at your local truck stop, buy him a 24 pack of water. we do this job cause we love it and we know how important we are. Even with the constant disrespect from drivers in cars, shippers, recievers, and the government.
Well.i was going to say that.if they come up here.illegals and dont speak English they will make you work cheap.
@@kelvintorrence5994 bro if your English sounds like your typing, you might want to hold back on that specific criticism.
Haliburton: You don't think we got this rich by writing a lot of checks do you?
My brother quit teucking bc of this and now drives school busses. Is he overqualified? Yes. But he is properly paid now.
And my wife tells me that I'd be a great school bus driver.maybe in the future
that's y I'm with ups better pay ,benefits, 401k, overtime like crazy and home everyday .
Even a Uber driver gets wait time. No bathroom or food and water? That's cruel.
Imagine you in a parking lot of an American owned mine in the DR Congo to make a delivery.
After waiting in their parking lot for a week they move you to the lay down area.
Still no toilets or area to get food or water.
After 4 days you cant stop coughing because they have you next to and down wind to the sulphur stowage yard.
You dont see anyone in 2 days so you go looking for somone and get fined 2000 dollars for moving without an escort.
Eventually they offload you on day 5 at the lay down area.
Now they take your papers to go get stamped and only return them back 3 days later.
So you spend 14 days making the delivery.
If you try bill them they respond that they only pay anyting above 9 days.
You point out you spent 14 days.
They respond , you cant count week ends and they countbfrom when they fetch you from the parking lot not not tge week you waited on them.
To when they take the cargo off , not the 3 days extra they take to hand your documents back after that.
This is not even an exception, average is a week to 2 weeks at the mine.
The Canadian , Australian and Chinese owned mines are the same.
I stopped delivering there and the forwarders like Bollore/AGL , DHL ....... think Im stubborn because I don't want to accept loads to there any more.
I feel very sad to hear these stories of hard working people. They have the right to have a decent life and decent working conditions. I wish you all strength.
I totally understand, I have 3 brothers who work very hard as truck drivers over the years dealing with greedy corporations. Truck Drivers are Human Beings & Deserve Respect!🚚 🚛 ❤️🔥💯
I’m only 6 months in and looking for an exit plan. I don’t know how my Dad did this for almost 3 decades! My respect level for him has gone completely up! Stay safe.
I have so much respect for those who have done this to provide for their families and endured so much!
It sucks your complete life away! I work for the orange company getting .53 per mile on a dedicated account.
The most I’ve ever seen after taxes about $1000. 😅 I know it’s in the endorsements and the experience but it just doesn’t seem worth it.
I want my life back!
That's cruel. They have no concern for the people doing the work that makes them rich...
When the day comes that no truckers show up for that crap job, something different will happen but not before.
no one does. this is why u have mostly illegal immigrants doing it.
Basically they are counting on people entering the business not realizing what they are getting themselves into, and then squeezing as much profit out of them as they can before they suffer burnout.
Of course the problem with this is that over the LONG term it gradually becomes common knowledge that this line of work is more likely to put you IN debt than help you pay your debts off.
Enough with the effing corporate greed, and them hiding it behind the inflation excuse. Go Truckers, you deserve justice!
Thank you for covering this.
This reeks of exploitation. Drivers should be paid for every hour they are under the direction of another.
Unskilled oilfield. What did you think you'd get? Rig hand prices. LMFAO. You sit. You don't drill or work for it. STFU
@@darknagaadventures7884 They will never do that which is why drivers are exempted from the federal labor standards act. If they paid me for every hour I actually work my pay would bump up by at least 20% and that's not counting if it was overtime rates
i'm so happy to see some workers get together and fight for unions and especially in my home state of texas! I hope we get more unions in the USA.
Hell yeah! Fuck these greedy corporations!
Life is but a vapor, choose this day whom you serve.
Yes ❤️ 😍
It happens more than just there.
I pull refrigerated goods
Same thing. No rest room, no vending machines, no parking. "Go wait in your truck"
Oscar you are fighting the good fight.
Keep up the good work. Hopefully it will spread everywhere.
Drivers need to quit abusing the amenities we do have... maybe things will change for the better
Be safe out there
🙏
We have to move away from Reaganomics! This is ridiculous! 40 years of this has decimated the middle class in America!
Trump did it again that's where we are it's still his economic tinkle down plan check the facts ......CEO getting wealthy ! Now this ! Bastards we need to get them out of our government
Truck drivers eat their own. Keep voting red see where it got ya!
We have to move away from capitalism, mister. You're looking at this issue through a Fisher-Price microscope.
As it was intended.
@@ProleDaddyPURE capitalism is trash; it works well with healthy limits on what companies can do, and how workers can be treated.
Plain & simple corporate greed & indifference to the workers.
Plain and simple, republican way
@@JuanRodriguez-vh4kc 4 years of "your" president einstien ... and you blame republicans .. not too bright are we Kamala.
@JuanRodriguez-vh4kc not actually. These guys rate cut and signed deals they shouldn't have.generaly sand is a half hour turn around
6 million barrels per day is $480 million per day. Wonder who gets the money. Also the damage that fracking does to the environment.
@athalyerajan2823 now you know why the Republicans hate electric cars so much..... gives a chance for someone else to make some money and they don't wanna lose their oil money. Old wealth never wants to make room for new wealth.
yeah i couldnt work knowing i was helping them do fracking. i'm not blaming these truckers i'm just saying i couldn't do it knowing how bad fracking is. corporate propaganda is strong. people still deny climate change exists and people still think cigarettes don't cause cancer.
No kidding on the environmental damage this does. Texas' Permian basin just had a 4.9 earthquake this week; last year there were at least 7. Increasing in frequency too. Madness!
yes. The damage is tremendious.
But the Truckers will be needed even after we switch energy sources. Even to absolute renewables we need chemical energy storage (and thats what fossil fuels are) and chemical energy needs transport.
So we need to fight for the truckers, alongside every other worker, even the drillers who can transition to drilling heat pipes that reduce energy dependance; no skill is useless, and no skill will go un-needed if we are wise, clever and compassionate.
It’s not the fracking wells themselves, it’s the disposal wells from the fracking wells. When they pump the waste water back into the ground, into the disposal wells, this causes the earthquakes. I used to live 1/4 mile from one in Oklahoma. We had many earthquakes daily, from 3 to 5 point. I now live 50 or so miles from the deepest undersea trench on the planet…the Pacific rim. Now, I experience a few earthquakes a year.
The thing is people need to all realise we're in it together and getting together and doing something about it gives you more power than going it alone.
I love Billy!!! He made such a huge impression on me in the last video he was in, thank you so much for elevating his and these other truckers voices! ✊❤️
I worked for 10 years in the oilfields of North Dakota. Worked when it was -60 and in the mud. At first it was good. Free housing and good money. Then the slow downs started. Like these gentleman. They started taking away. You work for 13-14 hours a day. When it was hot when it was so dam cold that metal breaks. Now there’s no was in hell I would go back.
I was in ND 2013-2014. Then The Price of Oil Fell. I Went Back Once To Visit.
The only fight in America is between the Rich and the Poor and working class. Period! Everything else is just noise
I'd say it's the only fight in the world! Has been for a long time, and the sooner people quit squabbling over nonsense and realize the power we hold over the tiny minority of rich assholes that exploit us, the sooner we can win against them.
They need us; we don't need them.
But that's class reductionism. And that's bad, and racist, and sexist, and several other cherrypicked terms according to most of the "lefties" I know.
Woops. Seems I used TH-cam no-no words again. Let's try this again. But that's class reductionist. And that's bad. Andsexist. Andracist. And several other cherrypicked words used by the L's I know to distract from the real issue at play.
Yep...too true
@@custos3249 L's?
They love 'owner operators' as they also don't have to pay to cover any of their medical or worry about any other employee laws.
Yea that's why they pay someone else to deal with it. Owner operator = slavery on wheels for most of em. The cost doesn't stop at the expensive truck. Tires alone can cost almost 10 grand. Throw in brakes, fuel, repairs, being at the whim of international freight rates and it all points to one path. Financial destitution. You can go drive for Messer, make 80 grand a year and not have your ass on the line for owning a money pit on wheels. Truck breaks? Not your problem. Blow a brake chamber? Road call doesn't come out of your pocket. Gotta get towed to a shop? Also not your problem.
Yup. They love 1099ing people and labeling everyone an independent contractor. It's criminal. They don't pay any benefits or proper taxes to the government. Which nets them max profit while they pay pennies. The government refuses to do anything about it. Companies need to hire employees and not be allowed to label everyone an independent contractor. Especially because most the time the workers are actually employees to the companies.
Time for a strike or boycott
How about not voting for Republicans, you guys are such suckers for Republicans, I know a lot of truckers, and most of them are voting for Trump, stop, whining, and crying then.
I salute the channel For covering these stories and wouldn't coach this channel for keep on shining?A light on these issues keep supporting our truckers for better treatment.
John, you are the best interviewer/presenter that MPU has!
Those boys need a union. Best of luck to them from an ABF Freight teamster with local 391
Unskilled oilfield. What did you think you'd get? Rig hand prices. LMFAO. You sit. You don't drill or work for it. STFU
I've hauled ABF loads before, and judging by what I've seen at their facilities, there's a good reason ABF is known as Always Broken Freight
The FACT that they have to fight for these things is the downfall of this country
YEP...
Actually, that’s what FOUNDED this country for the most part. We said “enough is enough” to entitled, petty pricks and started a war to get what we wanted
No this shows how incompetent the government is to control capitalism selfishness
@@yojojo3000no shit, your actually is erroneous. We fought against that and WON to found this country. We have circled back around to losing with nearly no recourse.
All they have to do is say no stop hauling it cheap and the price WILL go up that it no one cares if they complain as long as they are still hauling the load
I live in Abilene, Texas, and want to pass some of the flyers out around here out of our truck stops. Where can I find those flyers
Thank you for amplifying this. Had no idea. Best to truckers!
I hauled sand for propX pronghorn for the past 2 months. The other day they had me waiting 18 hours so I quit and came home. They ain’t lying about the lines being so long that people were shitting by their trucks on the lease roads
I was an over the road driver... I was a company driver, so the expenses were not mine... but they sure waste your time and want you to hurry to make up for it... I'm now home every day and not missing the industry that really is the backbone of America...
Trickle down income Trickle up corporate profits
More like DRIP down income and FIRE HOSE up profits
That's why Union is needed. This abuse must stop!!!
This is the real reason why Musk is developing self-driving cars.
Why pay truckers anything, when you can lease robots instead?
because robots aren't as exploitable as humans. You can abuse humans six ways to sunday and replace dirt cheap of you need to. Robot need proper care, and if you don't take care of them its expensive to repair and replace them
There is a reason why corporations and corruption are similar words
I was an owner operator leased to a company out of Ft Worth in 2018 and was forced to pay for a chassis and move boxes to Kermit tx from Big Springs Tx for free after middle man decided not to pay me, excuse was that Haliburton wasn't going to pay, couldn't afford to idle my truck to stay warm, i was forced delease my truck and get no pay because of chassis lease cost took my revenue, never have been back.
Chassis lease is a scam.....especially when the oil company OWNS them 🙄🙄🙄
Like Halliburton does.
You are smart for walking away from that!!! Sure it was rough but the right decision!
@@matthewheinze1231 thank you Matt for your response I take that you experienced this as well, yes it was a good decision but a very costly decision, my livelihood, my truck, my commercial credit,my savings, everything and the aggravation of not being able to find any help to protect my business from all the financial aggression, there's no protection for the small business owner, if you are unable to afford corporate legal defense then you are expendable.
@@heartlessangel1460 Not defending Halliburton in any way but they are NOT an oil company. They are an oilfield services company. There is quite a difference.
About half of Americans look up to corporate greed.
I once worked a fast food job and a fellow worker got his minimum wage paycheck and said, "if it ain't about the money it ain't about nothin" as if he was making stock broker money.
And then they complain about the price of stuff and blame the wrong people.
of course everyone imagines themselves being at the top, not as the worker.
Everyone should be aware every additional cost will roll down hill to the consumer. The simple solution is for trucks to stop hauling sand. When the sand stops moving. Producers will pay more.
I really wish people would stop complaining about the cost to the consumer. No one wants to pay more for something, but our attitude is exactly the reason why the federal minimum wage is an abysmal $7.25/hr and why truck drivers are forced to sit for 20 hours in sweltering heat with no bathrooms, water, food, or pay along with a slew of other human rights violations/issues both at home and abroad in order to "keep costs low." You cannot have it both ways. You can either pay what it costs to produce the product fairly and equitably, or you can have low wages and deplorable working conditions. And this doesn't just impact truckers. It impacts ALL of us. By basically saying that we're okay with any atrocities as long as it doesn't impact the cost to us, we're also agreeing to terrible conditions in our own work environment. I was a public school teacher, and people made the same arguments there too: They weren't interested increasing pay, fixing delapidated buildings, hiring more staff to take some of the load off, etc. because no one wants to pay for it; even as the quality of education diminishes and public school teachers leave the profession in droves leaving schools even more short-staffed. Then people complain that our school system sucks. All of the double standards and hypocricy are infuriating. You cannot get something for nothing, and if you're going to pay for it anyway, why not pay more, get better quality, and improve everyone's lives in the process?
Stop driving/hauling for these companies.
The driver market is oversaturated in that part of the industry. Partly thanks to the Biden / Moon Crater Harris immigration policies that allow cheap labor to pour into the country. There are now more people that are willing to drive for pennies and don't mind the conditions because it is better than what they have.
It's the same bs when you drive for big food companies. I made more money 15 years ago at the same company. And the potato chip company I work for has tripled the prices.
I’ve worked in frac/drilling in the Permian for years.
The simplest solution for the bathrooms on location is a portable facility. All that is cleaner Porta Jons.
It is impossible to build bathrooms and facilities because frac does not stay forever. A pad can last 2 weeks or 2 months but they are never permanent. That’s why everything is mobile.
As for waiting and not getting paid, they should be getting demurrage.
Only issue with that is that the cost for all those trucks demurrage will be pushed to another service company to be paid.
At the end of the day, the root problem is the operator. ie companies like ( Exxon, oxy, chevron, eog, etc)
They control just about everything when it comes to rates
These truckers should unite and shut down the industry till they get paid a lot better.
Yes, Texas is a right-to-work state, which means that employment cannot be denied or conditioned based on union membership or non-membership. This law was passed in 1993 and is outlined in the Texas Labor Code (§§101.052-.053). However, unions are not banned in right-to-work states, and in Texas, educators and school employees can choose to join a union without fear of reprisal. The law also broadens the definition of "labor union" to include any organization that aims to improve working conditions, wages, or employment. Once a union is certified, it is legally obligated to represent all employees in its covered positions, regardless of membership or dues.
Repulsive.
Right to work laws are the reason southern states are so poor.
This has been going on for MANY decades
I do financial for small business, the cost of Insurance, Fuel, dues for state mandatory tracking,maint for trucks, has increased by over 50 percent in the last 7 yrs. And the price per mile has literally remained static. Its absolutely crazy, that every other business sector has had increases to their end user of 35% and truckers are left barely break even. And the disrespect they get on the roads everyday, the disrespect they get just picking up products is beyond malicious, load appt set at 1pm not loading till 6pm, disgraceful!. I truly hope you get everything each of u mentioned. Because you have earned it.
@@susana5505 says the one who's against raising minimum wage
SOLUTION: REFUSE THE LOAD!
Since these Owner Operators are not employees, organizing a union for them will be extremely difficult.
However, they can simply REFUSE to make any deliveries to the site until/ unless major improvements are made!
After some time, of having no drivers willing to come, the site owners will be forced to make reasonable improvements.
Portable toilets, maybe a food truck to buy meals from etc.
Unskilled oilfield. What did you think you'd get? Rig hand prices. LMFAO. You sit. You don't drill or work for it. STFU
Then the broker bench you for 2 weeks. Bring on 10 new trucks (you sit and monitor the threads and see it happen real time) and you either scrambled to get loads elsewhere, which takes time or go broke waiting.
@@robertnice3060 There's other brokers the truckers can go to, and with the huge demand for drivers, they should have no problem finding better options.
I remember when I was a kid my parents had a friend who was a trucker and he made 70k a year. How do they keep getting away with this?
No portable toilet, refrigerator or microwave in your truck in 2024 is wild.
yeah these ceos need to reinvest in their business and get nicer trucks to drive. if the owner is driving a 40 year old truck what are these guys employees driving
Not enough space. Most larger sleeper trucks have small coolers or fridges/microwaves if the truck has a APU. No space for toilets, waste storage and no facilities for unloading waste.
Some guys have folding toilet seats and cat litter in a bag but it's obviously for emergencies only.
Driving a truck sucks now. No one lets you use their bathrooms and truck parking is abysmal in many states.
Waiting unpaid is not a new thing or limited to this specific section of the industry. You could easily be waiting 6-20 hours at a shipper with no access to facilities outside your truck
@@robertsmith2300 dont forget the cameras or broker scamming them.
My truck has a fridge and I put in a portable toilet. You can buy one for like 100 bucks empties into any toilet.
@@robertsmith2300 I have all of those things plus a bathing station in my freightliner cascadia. My toilet flushes, seals and fits under my bunk, the bottom seperates from the top to be poured out when full. I've never had to use a public restroom in my entire trucking career. Also because of my eminities I can park virtually anywhere I fit. Trucking is great.
as a former truck driver, and also a woman. its not just this place (oil companies) that does all this, the bathroom situation is much worse for women. its in my opinion inhumane for both, just worse for women. there are also a lot of trans drivers so compound the issues with bathrooms for drivers x2 in that case.
gig and contractor economy summed up nicely. You're not an employee so you don't get protections. You don't exist on the books, you're just a question mark.
*This is what every corporation wants.*
Thank you! Most don't get that here.
I stepped away from the Wheel due to lack of care for us truckers, and lack of pay. It takes a skill to do this job accurately 100% of the time.
YOU MUST GO PRO UNION‼️
Unskilled oilfield. What did you think you'd get? Rig hand prices. LMFAO. You sit. You don't drill or work for it. STFU
Not that this is fair how they are ripped off by billion-dollar companies, but I wouldn't use that port a john. You can buy a camping toilet that you can sit on and then dump the waste in a plastic bag in the dumpster. Isn't there room in the back of the cab to squat on a little stool? Then I would keep a big cooler in the back filled with ice and drinks. It is like they are being forced to camp out there. They should get paid what they are worth. If no one hauls the sand, the whole process of selling the oil comes to a halt. I hope no evil befalls this man trying to organize for their rights. These corporations can play dirty.
Has anyone noticed that Texas, with all that oil money, looks like a dump compared to Dubai with all that oil money? Where's the oil wealth going in the USA? Oil is a natural resource that belongs to the citizens of the USA. How come Americans never see a penny? Dubai funds a luxurious life for their citizens. So does Norway. So does the Netherlands. The American regime has to go!
In your gulf states, they have just as many shithole looking areas. They just don't publicize it. They use a ton of southeast asian migrant workers that do it all from construction to truck driving to janitorial etc. keeping the country running. The "luxurious lifestyle" that these oil nations show the world is still paid for by shit on workers who are not treated with dignity and respect. Norway and the Netherlands have a similar thing but it is not nearly as exploitative as the gulf states.
Watch out now… saying a natural resource belongs to the citizens will get you branded a socialist 😂
No the oil does not belong to the citizens of the USA. It belongs to the company paying to pull it out of the ground. You spend your $$$$ to buy a drilling rig and drill 10-12000 ft into the earth and put a pump jack on that well once completed that oil belongs to YOU not me,or anyone else for that matter. These companies shell out millions and millions to get it extracted and even more to get it to market before they ever make the first dime off oil or even natural gas for that matter
Oklahoma has oil and couldn't keep their schools open 5 days a week or pay their teachers a decent wage. Those oil rich middle east countries like Dubai have been exploiting contract workers for decades.
@@phiksitI had said something similar and my comment magically disappeared lol.
This is happening everywhere, these companies treat us like dirt. Time to organise
I met Oscar when I was 12 I’m 24 now, what he says is true and it’s the reason that after 18-24 I’m leaving the trucking industries because it doesn’t pay
Today I recommend people not to be a truck driver, I recommended they find a more specialized job and niche
I hope he talks to the fracking employees as well and all just go on strike.
Yeah, frac hand really going to strike from their $100,000 - $250,000/year job because they sometimes have to go in a port-a-john.
Moron.
Corporate greed invariably derives from Capitalism
Don't forget the stock buybacks too.
Trickle up economics.
All for ME.
That too started with Reagan. Before he showed up, it was illegal.
And where is the Dept. of labor? This is criminal!
Shouldn't this be on the news!! This is reporting. Thank you for reporting the REAL news.
As a 0/0 myself nothing is gonna change since the majority of the industry is republican who want the freedom to be exploited. However you also don’t gotta work out there, they took away detention pay and took away money because it go over saturated because people are willing to accept that unprofitable pay. All those drivers should have been abandoned the Texas oil fields
They say that if enough people turn down these bad jobs they will have to fix it. So why didn't it happen?
Republicans support truckers my little man.
@@autodidact7127 funny 😆
@@autodidact7127 No, they don't. As always, they *claim* they support things but when they get in power they will not budge on their promises. They always support the rich, not the workers.
Republicans do not support workers organizing. That is the only way to worker power. I also do not believe they should be fighting for these jobs. Their employer is crap. That business should be left in the dust. Republicans and probably some corporate democrats support that kind of business. No one will say they want to exploit workers, but their policy and business model is exploiting workers. This is what happens to people and workers whose bosses and industry do not give a crap about the planet.
corporations will screw any worker not in management unless unions or the gov step in ... that's trickle down for ya
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Corporate profits are at a 70 year high....after taxes.
Keep raising hell bill Russell! " justice for truckers and their families!
Much love.
Mrs Ragone
This is what Right to Work gets you.
Right to work is company/employee.
These guys have the right to not contract there.
They actually work for themselves. They are owner/ops, they are a contractor. They are their own small business.
So by contracting with this company they are in fact making a poor business decision as the owner.
Mt cousin use to drive trucks he told me he keeps 3 days of food in the truck at all time, a 5 gallon bucket to pee in said that he was stuck waiting for a load once with no food he learned his lesson on that one
All of the truck drivers I've ever known, vote republican, so there's that.
Yup
They vote against their best interest.
This is the reason I won't vote for anyone who says they're a business person. They accept money (called campaign donations) from these big corporations. That only means big corporations make the rule and big government enforce them. Imagine a company in the U.S. abusing their employees like this. Unsat!
Yup, former business people make some of the crookedest politicians, in my book.
This has been happening for decades, nothing new here and it happens in every trucking field.