Great flying and review as always. I bought one of these today from my friend who didn't like the way it flies because he only flew it twice with a 5500mah, heavy battery. I'm getting it basically brand new ready to fly for $150. And thanks for including speed tests, many of us appreciate this data.
As always, great work, Jon. How about my Avanti 80mm V2? Do you like the Avanti 80's? I have the S (yellow) and the V2 (red) both of these jets are my absolute favorites.
I purchased this Jet thinking I'd be as cool as you guys flying it, but I've sucked at its landings a "couple" of times! LOL. Interestingly, the only damage I've done to it so far has been breaking the nose (which isn't a big deal to glue back), and I've broken the front gear door (which I've removed, given that I've broken it more than once!). I'll keep at it, but one thing I have noticed is that I've been using my CG as per the manual. I flew it once with the battery pushed backwards (as you showed on your video) and I managed to perform a perfect landing! From now on, I'll CG it on the mains (as you've noted down here somewhere), and keep at it. This plane is so beautiful, I'll probably use this one as a beater to hone in on my landings and get another one! I also have a brand new (just assembled) FMS BAE Hawk, but I think I'll keep that one in the hangar until I can land this guy right all the time. Awesome videos! Thanks for sharing!!!
I have hit and submitted $ for your time a few times with a credit card - it flashes but just stays on that page when i submit the $ - I've done it three or four times and i'm not even sure if it went through... If it did that's just more thanks to you, if it did not.I would like to know so I can fix it.
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We've gotta be hard on ourselves because we have influence over people. If we showcase poor piloting, it comes with the risk of teaching people that it's OK to make poor flying choices that can put people and property at risk.
@@TwoBrosRC One thing for sure, your videos are top-notch, and also top echelon in fueling my RC plane BUG! In the music industry we refer to it as GAS (gear aquisition syndrome).
Love the Futura, I have about 150 flights on the Purple V1. I didn’t buy the blue/grey/white V2 because I think it would have been difficult for me to see in the air. I will pick up a new V3 sometime this year. My Viper 90MM remains my favorite EDF, but at almost $700 with tax and shipping, I’m not sure I’ll replace it when the time comes. The Futura, (and Free Wing Avanti 80MM) are pretty hard to beat at $400 shipped.
@@davidgerlach1132 Yep. I recently picked up the new Avanti V2 and it is outstanding. If I pick up another Viper 90, it will be the plug and play version at $450.00 plus tax, not the $700 plus tax bind and fly version.
2" SuperLite wheels should fit easily. 2.25" is a good choice too. We'd recommend a 4000 class pack. 5k packs are too heavy for this jet to reach its potential.
@@TwoBrosRCI’ll make the swap to the 2.25” Dubro Super Lite and see if it makes a difference. I brought it to the field a couple of times and it didn’t take off 😞. Not sure if it’s because the grass was too high, or if it was something else. Rather odd.
You'll get more of a thrill out of the Futura. It's fast, and it's capable of high alpha too. The Viper, unfortunately, is not - but it is fast! Plus you can get 5% off the Futura using the code FMS2NR on FMSHobby.com!
ya would love to try one of these one time but unfortunately in europe FMS models are so much more expensive then all the other brands that their planes almost never make it to the top of the shopping list...i mean im sure its a good jet, but freewing or e-flite make good jets too
@@mk6315 hahaha I love how autocorrect will completely change the word to something that doesn't resemble the word or make sense.....that was supposed to say wanted lmao
Just got this plane and about to maiden it. Also going to use SMC 4400mAh. I’ve been told to shove it forward and carve the canopy so the battery fits in order to get the factory CG recommendation. I see yours isn’t even all the way forward. Do you mind shedding light? I’m confused and torn.
We fly with 4400s if we want a little more flight time, but use 3600s shoved all the way back to make it perform stable high alpha passes. The factory CG is incredibly nose heavy and can be safely discarded. Ours balances over the main wheels. Add expo to compensate for the additional pitch authority to tamp it down and you'll be totally fine. Just be aware it will experience accelerated stalls easier if you're not smooth on the sticks, but good airmanship will fix that. Join us on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord for more info on setup guides and to chat with like-minded members of our YT community!
Awesome my man !!!! I can’t wait to get mine too….in the container right now… But can you tell us the real CG you fly with, in millimeters please, not an approximate CG but a real measurement please 😅
No approximate CG required, it literally balanced directly over the center of the main wheel wells. It's not a CG you'll want to fly it at if you're not used to the jet, but it does handle really nicely. Lots of expo with the throws we use will be required. We can get you a physical measurement, just ask on FB Messenger. ;)
I can't believe I haven't purchased this beautiful sport jet. You make it look amazing visually flying it. I'm contemplating this Futura for an additional sport EDF jet, or the Freewing 6s 90mm F-22 Raptor. In a perfect world I'd have both. As for the speed, this is interesting. In the same direction, in both runs with flaps down or up you reached 106mph. I'm assuming you were at full throttle both times.
I bought one but still in the box. Glad I watch this video. I’ll watch out for the nose wheel hanging up on the spring door. I’ll also put the 4500mah battery vice the 5000. I like doing nice slow landings.
FMS really nailed it w this plane, imo the strut springs are stiff otherwise not a single issue. It comes w me to the field every single time and it always brings a grin. One member bought one and others are looking at it now, on Sunday we clocked it at 138, full dive to level, roaring top 70c4400. I wasn’t a fan of the look at first, but it’s grown on me, easy to see in any weather
@@mickydee6550 It depends on the model. Super Lite wheels work best on this model because we're pretty sure low-bounce won't fit on the axles and rotate without rubbing. Super Lites are thinner profile so they tend to work better on models like this one.
John what weight is that lipo so I know where ur cg is. 106 isn't bad level flight. I got 128 on a slight dive. The v2 got 129. V3 is my go to jet definitely my favourite sports 80mm.
Do you still prefere the e-flite Viper 90mm over this? I like them both (I think the viper 90mm sounds better, at least from YT videos). I would like to get into edf sooner or later, and those 2 are the most interesting ones atm. I’ve seen only a Viper 70mm and few bigger Futura with fuel turbine irl.
Viper 90 is definitely faster and a little more aerobatic, but Futura can perform high alpha passes without any mixing and doesn't need an 8 channel receiver to do it either. It's a tradeoff.
@@TwoBrosRC Understeand. The Futura is maybe better than the Viper 70mm, being at a close price (at least in my area). What would you recomend as 1st edf, other than the Habu, for grass fields?
@@the_bogeyman. The new Viper 70mm would be our suggestion because it teaches you how jets fly and how to get out of stalls. Watch our vid on it which includes a tutorial on stalls and landings: th-cam.com/video/cJ63fRoKlHY/w-d-xo.html Link to buy is in the description if you'd like to support us!
@@TwoBrosRC. I had so many rewards/discounts could have bought an ix14 for $570. Still can probably. Just didn’t know any reason to. Got my nx10 for $370. If you can tell me why I’ll return the nx10 and get the ix14. I’ll never fly turbines so I wasn’t interested; I’m totally a park flyer type- we have a small strip by our house I fly at while my girls play on the playground. The 1-2 minute boot up lost me. But if there are features that make up for that gap, please lmk. I can still exchange it, but not for long.
Hey Jon. If I get an avian esc for this jet, will it reverse thrust or will I need to use an AR637 along with the avian to get the reverse feature? I’m using an AR8000 at the moment. Keep up the great work with your videos!
A 100 amp Avian ESC would work, but you'd need a modern Spektrum receiver to use Smart tech. If you'd like to support us, consider picking up the AR637T via bit.ly/3dCjiuO and the Avian 100 amp ESC via bit.ly/3PywkGY
In comparison, viper 90 or futura which one is better as far slow speed stall? I just dumped my viper90 coming around to land. It just nosed over like giant magnet yanked it out of the sky.
Great flying and review as always. I bought one of these today from my friend who didn't like the way it flies because he only flew it twice with a 5500mah, heavy battery. I'm getting it basically brand new ready to fly for $150. And thanks for including speed tests, many of us appreciate this data.
As always, great work, Jon. How about my Avanti 80mm V2? Do you like the Avanti 80's? I have the S (yellow) and the V2 (red) both of these jets are my absolute favorites.
Avanti isn't the kind of jet we really enjoy at all, mostly because Jon can't stand how it looks lol
@@TwoBrosRC ...are you guys FMS snobs? 😆 Not that I don't love FMS, but Freewing (Freewing snob here) makes the best birds...
Nah, FMS makes it too. Just not interested in it as a platform
I purchased this Jet thinking I'd be as cool as you guys flying it, but I've sucked at its landings a "couple" of times! LOL. Interestingly, the only damage I've done to it so far has been breaking the nose (which isn't a big deal to glue back), and I've broken the front gear door (which I've removed, given that I've broken it more than once!).
I'll keep at it, but one thing I have noticed is that I've been using my CG as per the manual. I flew it once with the battery pushed backwards (as you showed on your video) and I managed to perform a perfect landing! From now on, I'll CG it on the mains (as you've noted down here somewhere), and keep at it. This plane is so beautiful, I'll probably use this one as a beater to hone in on my landings and get another one! I also have a brand new (just assembled) FMS BAE Hawk, but I think I'll keep that one in the hangar until I can land this guy right all the time.
Awesome videos! Thanks for sharing!!!
We're happy to see that you're enjoying it with the CG over the mains - the further back it goes (up to a point), the better a model will fly!
I feel as if I ever trying to do a high alpha - i would tip stall into a pile of foam and toothpicks (description being borrowed from you😅)
Wow Man! 20k Subs!!! I think this will be my next 80mm in my hanger☺️
Bummer on the nose gear.i had the same thing happen on my Fms Rafale 80.
I have hit and submitted $ for your time a few times with a credit card - it flashes but just stays on that page when i submit the $ - I've done it three or four times and i'm not even sure if it went through... If it did that's just more thanks to you, if it did not.I would like to know so I can fix it.
Are you trying via TH-cam Super Thanks? The sentiment is much appreciated, but YT takes a 30% cut. If you want to donate to the channel, the easiest way is via Paypal: paypal.me/JonSynRC
Jon dont be so hard on yourself, your a awesome pilot bro!!! Shit happens lol
We've gotta be hard on ourselves because we have influence over people. If we showcase poor piloting, it comes with the risk of teaching people that it's OK to make poor flying choices that can put people and property at risk.
@@TwoBrosRC One thing for sure, your videos are top-notch, and also top echelon in fueling my RC plane BUG! In the music industry we refer to it as GAS (gear aquisition syndrome).
Good job on the camera despite the clear sky! Good recovery!
Love the Futura, I have about 150 flights on the Purple V1. I didn’t buy the blue/grey/white V2 because I think it would have been difficult for me to see in the air. I will pick up a new V3 sometime this year. My Viper 90MM remains my favorite EDF, but at almost $700 with tax and shipping, I’m not sure I’ll replace it when the time comes. The Futura, (and Free Wing Avanti 80MM) are pretty hard to beat at $400 shipped.
Don't forget with the Viper 90mm add ~300 for batteries...you're looking well over a $1K EDF.
@@davidgerlach1132 Yep. I recently picked up the new Avanti V2 and it is outstanding. If I pick up another Viper 90, it will be the plug and play version at $450.00 plus tax, not the $700 plus tax bind and fly version.
Sup, btw first
You are indeed the first. Here's a trophy! 🏆
Futura is a sexy bird..
Hey Jon! What’s the size of the Dubro Super Lite? Also, will 5000mah fit? Thanks for another great one!!
2" SuperLite wheels should fit easily. 2.25" is a good choice too. We'd recommend a 4000 class pack. 5k packs are too heavy for this jet to reach its potential.
@@TwoBrosRC oh then I probably take this off my list as all of my packs are 5000 :(
Thanks!!
@@TwoBrosRCI’ll make the swap to the 2.25” Dubro Super Lite and see if it makes a difference.
I brought it to the field a couple of times and it didn’t take off 😞. Not sure if it’s because the grass was too high, or if it was something else. Rather odd.
My dilemma is this; e-flite Viper 70mm OR this FMS - Futura V3? (I'm a very experienced pilot so I want a thrill!)
You'll get more of a thrill out of the Futura. It's fast, and it's capable of high alpha too. The Viper, unfortunately, is not - but it is fast!
Plus you can get 5% off the Futura using the code FMS2NR on FMSHobby.com!
ya would love to try one of these one time but unfortunately in europe FMS models are so much more expensive then all the other brands that their planes almost never make it to the top of the shopping list...i mean im sure its a good jet, but freewing or e-flite make good jets too
👀
I've always eaten the futura.....the blue and Grey one
Don’t eat them they aren’t nutritious
@@mk6315 hahaha I love how autocorrect will completely change the word to something that doesn't resemble the word or make sense.....that was supposed to say wanted lmao
@@Krash_fpv I couldn’t resist commenting it
The only Futura I have is a robbe schluter heli lol
@@mk6315 One man's diet is another's basura...
Just got this plane and about to maiden it. Also going to use SMC 4400mAh.
I’ve been told to shove it forward and carve the canopy so the battery fits in order to get the factory CG recommendation.
I see yours isn’t even all the way forward. Do you mind shedding light?
I’m confused and torn.
We fly with 4400s if we want a little more flight time, but use 3600s shoved all the way back to make it perform stable high alpha passes. The factory CG is incredibly nose heavy and can be safely discarded. Ours balances over the main wheels. Add expo to compensate for the additional pitch authority to tamp it down and you'll be totally fine. Just be aware it will experience accelerated stalls easier if you're not smooth on the sticks, but good airmanship will fix that.
Join us on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord for more info on setup guides and to chat with like-minded members of our YT community!
@@TwoBrosRC thank you! I’ve been watching your videos ever since I got back on the hobby.
Keep doing a good job at making these entertaining videos.
Awesome my man !!!! I can’t wait to get mine too….in the container right now…
But can you tell us the real CG you fly with, in millimeters please, not an approximate CG but a real measurement please 😅
No approximate CG required, it literally balanced directly over the center of the main wheel wells. It's not a CG you'll want to fly it at if you're not used to the jet, but it does handle really nicely. Lots of expo with the throws we use will be required. We can get you a physical measurement, just ask on FB Messenger. ;)
I can't believe I haven't purchased this beautiful sport jet. You make it look amazing visually flying it. I'm contemplating this Futura for an additional sport EDF jet, or the Freewing 6s 90mm F-22 Raptor. In a perfect world I'd have both.
As for the speed, this is interesting. In the same direction, in both runs with flaps down or up you reached 106mph. I'm assuming you were at full throttle both times.
Full throttle both times, yep!
Dude very nice!! Making me want to get one!
I think I need one of every jet/plane out there
I bought one but still in the box. Glad I watch this video. I’ll watch out for the nose wheel hanging up on the spring door. I’ll also put the 4500mah battery vice the 5000. I like doing nice slow landings.
Happy to help. 3600 to 4500 is the sweet spot for this jet.
Where are you running the CG? I had to run an SMC 5300 LiHV to get it to balance per the manual.
The manual recommendation is very nose heavy. Flying on a 3600 SMC HV allowed us to center the balance above the main wheels.
FMS really nailed it w this plane, imo the strut springs are stiff otherwise not a single issue. It comes w me to the field every single time and it always brings a grin. One member bought one and others are looking at it now, on Sunday we clocked it at 138, full dive to level, roaring top 70c4400.
I wasn’t a fan of the look at first, but it’s grown on me, easy to see in any weather
Going fast is neat, but have you ever tried flying slower than the jet normally lands? That's where the real fun is.
Serious drawbacks in terms of battery size limit and rudder fixing.
Not sure what you're referring to here, mind clarifying?
You're doing great!!!!!! Please tell me which battery is better to install on this aircraft? )
4400 packs are a solid choice.
Great vid! What afterburner kit would you recommend or do you have on that kit?
We run 5280 burners via fiftytwoeightyrc.com
Thanks for these review videos guys. Production quality to me is great! What is that little airport called?
We can't disclose it, unfortunately. Thanks!
Crow mix used for your high alpha? Was difficult to tell on phone screen.
Nope, no mixes used at all. It's a stock 6 channel configuration.
Great video 👍👍
Would be good to see your review on the omp hobby edge 540
They'd have to sponsor us for it to work out unfortunately.
The Planes Esc Timing must not be in high rate cause i have the V-2 Futura and ive clocked mine several times doing 135mph easily
Speed isn't a thing we care too much about. We're much more interested in how slow a model can fly without stalling.
@@TwoBrosRC Yeah thats always a good thing to be able to do on a Large Jet
Hi, which do you prefer between the Futura V3 and the FMS BAE Hawk 80MM? How do they compare? Thanks!
They're both very stable airframes. There's no real preference between them for us.
@@TwoBrosRC Also, do you now prefer Dubro light weight wheels over the low bounce? Why please? Thanks!
@@mickydee6550 It depends on the model. Super Lite wheels work best on this model because we're pretty sure low-bounce won't fit on the axles and rotate without rubbing. Super Lites are thinner profile so they tend to work better on models like this one.
John what weight is that lipo so I know where ur cg is. 106 isn't bad level flight. I got 128 on a slight dive. The v2 got 129. V3 is my go to jet definitely my favourite sports 80mm.
The 4400 HV packs weigh in at 592g. The 3600 HV packs weigh in at 487g.
Where can i get and buy this jet?can u sent me a link?
Check the description.
@@TwoBrosRC 👌tq
Do you still prefere the e-flite Viper 90mm over this? I like them both (I think the viper 90mm sounds better, at least from YT videos).
I would like to get into edf sooner or later, and those 2 are the most interesting ones atm.
I’ve seen only a Viper 70mm and few bigger Futura with fuel turbine irl.
Viper 90 is definitely faster and a little more aerobatic, but Futura can perform high alpha passes without any mixing and doesn't need an 8 channel receiver to do it either. It's a tradeoff.
@@TwoBrosRC Understeand. The Futura is maybe better than the Viper 70mm, being at a close price (at least in my area).
What would you recomend as 1st edf, other than the Habu, for grass fields?
@@the_bogeyman. The new Viper 70mm would be our suggestion because it teaches you how jets fly and how to get out of stalls. Watch our vid on it which includes a tutorial on stalls and landings: th-cam.com/video/cJ63fRoKlHY/w-d-xo.html
Link to buy is in the description if you'd like to support us!
@@the_bogeyman. Viper!
But will it Flat spin ???
Probably not.
Thank you!
Cheers, thanks!
Hey. How do u get speed readouts? Can it be added to Horizon models w/ Spektrum?
This is using a Spektrum setup. You need a GPS from Spektrum and an IX transmitter to call out like we're doing it here.
@@TwoBrosRC bummer. Just moved last week from a dx9 to nx10. Thank you for the reply
@@TwoBrosRC. I looked around the interweb and ordered the GPS Telemetry Sensor
SPMA95871. Pretty sure it’ll work with my nx10 on a few of my models.
@@SOBaseball It'll work, but you probably won't get the concise info our IX radio sounds off.
@@TwoBrosRC. I had so many rewards/discounts could have bought an ix14 for $570. Still can probably. Just didn’t know any reason to. Got my nx10 for $370. If you can tell me why I’ll return the nx10 and get the ix14. I’ll never fly turbines so I wasn’t interested; I’m totally a park flyer type- we have a small strip by our house I fly at while my girls play on the playground. The 1-2 minute boot up lost me. But if there are features that make up for that gap, please lmk. I can still exchange it, but not for long.
loose that music sir
No. For future reference, the word is "lose". Loose refers to something else entirely.
Hey Jon. If I get an avian esc for this jet, will it reverse thrust or will I need to use an AR637 along with the avian to get the reverse feature? I’m using an AR8000 at the moment. Keep up the great work with your videos!
A 100 amp Avian ESC would work, but you'd need a modern Spektrum receiver to use Smart tech. If you'd like to support us, consider picking up the AR637T via bit.ly/3dCjiuO and the Avian 100 amp ESC via bit.ly/3PywkGY
In comparison, viper 90 or futura which one is better as far slow speed stall? I just dumped my viper90 coming around to land. It just nosed over like giant magnet yanked it out of the sky.
The Futura has a much better stall characteristic than the Viper does. You can't fly a Viper in high alpha like this without a crow mix.