Not sure why people are arguing about how JD was rated. At the end of the day, they won and that’s what matters. JD honestly didn’t have one of his better games. His passes were consistently high and the majority were short passes. But so what? He did his job and lead the team to a win…get a week’s rest and go win the next one.
There are important statistical and psychometric concepts here. One is multi-rater reliability. As BMich says, when multiple raters give the same input/plays widely different ratings - that makes the measure suffer.
The thing I don’t get from this latest assessment is that PFF rated Will Levis higher than Jayden. Did they happen to notice that the score was forty-two to nineteen in favor of the Commanders? 🤔 By the way, I’m not a gambler (at all), but I’ve noticed that the betting market ratings are almost always the most accurate source out there. As far as I know, they don’t rank quarterbacks, but whatever they use to draw their conclusions seems to be working.
You can’t just look at the stats. They grade what’s available on a given play. So even if you get a completion and or a first down they downgrade if something was more open for more yardage. Like that throw to noah on the left side which he badly missed but completed. If he throws that correctly it’s a td. Look at Jayden’s overall grade for the year. He's 3rd behind only Lamar and burrow. Ask Buffalo fans how they feel about that lol.
When a very talented QB like JD, has the incredible ability to read the pre-snap defenses, adjust the offense, look the safety or linebacker off the passing target, read all his progressions and throw conservative footballs with pin point accuracy to locations all over the field where only his RB/TE/WR can make the catch. Yea! That’s amazing and to do it for four quarters, is outstanding! The analytics are incredibly flawed at rating QBs week after week. The intangibles of this position are not something that you can throw some parameters together and crunch some numbers. Leave rating quarterbacks to the professionals who have been scouting and tracking for decades.
We Washington fans all want Jayden to be an All Pro for over a decade but currently it is almost like he can't be critiqued properly. He did some great things against the Titans, but he also had some very iffy moments, particularly with accuracy so his PFF geade was probably fair. HTTC!
It’s the lack of “down field” passes. JD hit Terry on that deep ball to bump the score. JD threw a terrible pass to Noah.. and then a “low” ball to Terry on 4th down he also fumbled a ball on 3rd after being wrapped up. So that’s the only way I can explain away the low grade :/
PFF is good man even if the grades aren’t perfect. If a running back breaks two tackles in the backfield and creates 5 yards that could’ve been a loss of 2 , he gets a higher grade than a rb that runs a 5 yard TD perfectly blocked. It’s isolating what the player actually did. Adding too much context like scoring bla bla is how you misunderstand what PFF is grading
@I don’t have high expectations for nothing. My comment was sarcasm directed to people that ARE expecting too much. Their fans are talking a lot of premature bullshit. 🤷🏾♂️
A rebuilding team went toe to toe with the Ravens and hung in with Philadelphia for three quarters before a dumb coaching decision to not kick the field goal in a tight game.
"They give us access to a lot of information" that is worthless because it is based on the opinion of one or a very few individuals. Information that is weak or subjective is bad information. Why is your caller defending their practices at all? First and foremost, PFF grades every single player on every single game, and they publish within 24 hours, it seems, of the end of the weekend. To do that with statistical rigor is impossible. PFF is total BS and always has been. Greenberg reveals why it is used by others to compare performances; because it gives him and others in his business something to write about.
The Pittsburgh game Jayden played really good from what I remember. There was an insane amount of dropped passes from the entire receiving corps.
You are right. JD5 can’t catch the ball. I counted 7 drops during the game.
I was wondering if it was just me. I swear our receivers have been dropping the ball but it’s not reflecting in any stats.
Exactly right.
If the analytics is subjective, then the data is worthless
Exactly
Figures lie and liars figure….
Analytics is objective. The problem is things like “pressure” is subjective
Jayden Daniels PFF score 68, Will Levis 69. This is why PFF will always have issues.
Couple of dudes using ChatGPT AI prompts, it’s anecdotal at best!
Couple of dudes using ChatGPT AI prompts, it’s anecdotal at best!
Jayden is a top 12 QB for sure
Definitely
Top 12? He’s definitely top 8 at least
Not sure why people are arguing about how JD was rated. At the end of the day, they won and that’s what matters. JD honestly didn’t have one of his better games. His passes were consistently high and the majority were short passes. But so what? He did his job and lead the team to a win…get a week’s rest and go win the next one.
Its more arguing that pff grading system is subjective and based off different people opinions
There are important statistical and psychometric concepts here. One is multi-rater reliability. As BMich says, when multiple raters give the same input/plays widely different ratings - that makes the measure suffer.
The thing I don’t get from this latest assessment is that PFF rated Will Levis higher than Jayden. Did they happen to notice that the score was forty-two to nineteen in favor of the Commanders? 🤔
By the way, I’m not a gambler (at all), but I’ve noticed that the betting market ratings are almost always the most accurate source out there. As far as I know, they don’t rank quarterbacks, but whatever they use to draw their conclusions seems to be working.
You can’t just look at the stats. They grade what’s available on a given play. So even if you get a completion and or a first down they downgrade if something was more open for more yardage. Like that throw to noah on the left side which he badly missed but completed. If he throws that correctly it’s a td. Look at Jayden’s overall grade for the year. He's 3rd behind only Lamar and burrow. Ask Buffalo fans how they feel about that lol.
So it’s an efficiency grade.
@@markphelt6395basically, yeah
When a very talented QB like JD, has the incredible ability to read the pre-snap defenses, adjust the offense, look the safety or linebacker off the passing target, read all his progressions and throw conservative footballs with pin point accuracy to locations all over the field where only his RB/TE/WR can make the catch. Yea! That’s amazing and to do it for four quarters, is outstanding! The analytics are incredibly flawed at rating QBs week after week. The intangibles of this position are not something that you can throw some parameters together and crunch some numbers. Leave rating quarterbacks to the professionals who have been scouting and tracking for decades.
Pulling 💩outta their ass pretty much. Legit meaningless to me and isn't anything I've ever valued. Moving right along
We Washington fans all want Jayden to be an All Pro for over a decade but currently it is almost like he can't be critiqued properly.
He did some great things against the Titans, but he also had some very iffy moments, particularly with accuracy so his PFF geade was probably fair.
HTTC!
You’re an idiot if you believe that.
It’s the lack of “down field” passes. JD hit Terry on that deep ball to bump the score.
JD threw a terrible pass to Noah.. and then a “low” ball to Terry on 4th down he also fumbled a ball on 3rd after being wrapped up. So that’s the only way I can explain away the low grade :/
PFF is good man even if the grades aren’t perfect. If a running back breaks two tackles in the backfield and creates 5 yards that could’ve been a loss of 2 , he gets a higher grade than a rb that runs a 5 yard TD perfectly blocked. It’s isolating what the player actually did. Adding too much context like scoring bla bla is how you misunderstand what PFF is grading
I like this team, but I’m still waiting for this team to beat a contender. 🤷🏾♂️
We’re not built to beat a contender. Don’t understand why people have such high expectations for a rebuild team.
If things keep trending this way, we should be there in 2 more drafts.
@I don’t have high expectations for nothing. My comment was sarcasm directed to people that ARE expecting too much. Their fans are talking a lot of premature bullshit. 🤷🏾♂️
A rebuilding team went toe to toe with the Ravens and hung in with Philadelphia for three quarters before a dumb coaching decision to not kick the field goal in a tight game.
@@ricardolewis2685 They still lost. Wtf?? Moral victories are for suckers.
"They give us access to a lot of information" that is worthless because it is based on the opinion of one or a very few individuals. Information that is weak or subjective is bad information. Why is your caller defending their practices at all? First and foremost, PFF grades every single player on every single game, and they publish within 24 hours, it seems, of the end of the weekend. To do that with statistical rigor is impossible. PFF is total BS and always has been. Greenberg reveals why it is used by others to compare performances; because it gives him and others in his business something to write about.
pff is numerology. it's totally worthless. they compare insignificant stats to make content