When i was a small child ..us kids ( my sister & i ) used to go to our neighbour’s flat above ours when he got back from work .. he used to boil fish for his dinner & give the cooled water he boiled it in to a rose bush in a big pot on the edge of the balcony in East Africa.. his rose bush was totally covered in red roses .. more flowers then leaves.. my sisters use to ask for a flower in the morning on our way to school.. he used to cut one & toss it to us.. i was only 4-5 then.. sixties.. never forget this 🌹 rose.. he used to work at a textile factory & would give us a big book to look through the samples of materials .. hi Jason ..it’s me from London England 🏴
@@fernly2 bone meal is usually good.. i’d seen a crime story where the lady used to bury her victims under the front garden flowerbeds & her roses were the biggest on the whole of her neighbourhood & road & that’s how she got caught..so may be.. just don’t get caught being mistaken for something strange is going on .. tell them .. there’s just chicken bones under there.. you can check’um out if you want if the law comes sniffing around
Goodness, how can anyone manage to impart so much essential info into such a short video? This is excellent, Jason, thank you! Will certainly be keeping this one handy for future reference -even took some screenshots 😁 Greetings from England 🏴
Another WINNER! This was the best info I have heard in my many decades of rose growing. I have been using Dr. Earth Rose and Flower fertilizer. I’m definitely going to reconsider my choice. ❤
I just listen to Jason’s good reply on “ can i use tomato feed on roses ?… “ you bet ya “ was the answer & i’ve never seen more healthier roses then mine in my life before.. thanks Jason.. i’m now waiting for my damasks & mosses & whatever roses you had shown on that “ rosy “ video.. they’re all heading to me .. 28 of them..hopefully next month or early November.. i thought of you just yesterday as i was ogling at rose centifolia .. the morroco rose..& there’s 2 flowers on the rose cutting in the back garden..now very big .. the one that the dog had chewed down in the front garden..
Fertilizer - the most confusing thing for me about growing roses. Just checked my specialised "Rose Fertilizers" - Neptune's Harvest Rose and Flowering formula (which I spent a fortune on) - 2-6-4; Nutrite Rose Food - 7:11:10; Miracle Gro rose food - 18-24-16; and Miracle Gro Ultra Bloom 10-18-9 - all have a higher phosphorus amount. My roses are all in the ground and look just "OK", but nothing like they all promised!! After watching your video, I'll now ignore the branding and watch for the N-P-K numbers you recommend. Thanks for the info!!
quick good video, its also worth noting in places like australia you can't really get ferts with high phos levels in it due to the native plants not being suited to it. my normal rose fert is 17:1:10 or 9:4:12 or 7:1:4
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm The "P" does benefit the development of fruit, so I wonder if there might be a benefit for the development of rose hips? But, you are right about very little benefit for flowering plants unless the soil fortification is out of balance or lacking somehow. I use a K-Mag 0-12-12 when my mango trees and other fruit trees bloom as the blossoms start to wilt and set fruit. The P-K and micro nutrients encourage fruit set and development. I am going to sprinkle about half a cup around each rose bush to see if there is any benefit to rose hip development or if it makes any difference at all. Definitely no Nitrogen as the plants are preparing for dormancy.
Thank you for this info! Having worked in the industry, I'm well familiar with "rose food" products higher in the phosphorous department, lol! A confusing subject where most people don't understand the process of how nutrients actually get inside the plant and how they contrubute to growth for fruit & flower production once inside. This lack of knowledge forces the public to rely on someone else's guesses and formulas on what your roses need. In my experience, I found that customers prefer to rely on sales saff for information on fertilizers but don't realize that staff is limited to products supplied by the manufacturers (products that need to be sold at all costs) and oftentimes coupled with a lack of knowledge on the part of staff members themselves. There's an excellent book titled "Teaming With Nutrients" - the Organic Gardener's guide to optimizing plant nutrition by Jeff Lowenfels - explaining plant biology, basic biochemistry and the facets of organic nutrients, chemical fetrilizers and how they actually work.
As usual, an EXCELLENT, HIGHLY INFORMATIVE video!!! Thanks Jason!!! 😊 I bet Laura at Garden Answer would love your input. She lives in Oregon! Thanks again! 🌹🌹🌹
Thanks so much Deborah. Coincidentally, I did reach out to Garden Answer not too long ago. Honestly, I think they're just so successful (and therefore busy) that they'd have a hard time keeping up with all the requests. And there can't be time for everything!
Jason, my daughter planted a rose garden this spring. We are close to winter now. Do you have a video about prepping roses for winter and overwintering them?
Thanks. I'm in a climate with a relatively mild winter, so I can't give the best advice for harsher areas, but here's my vid on the topic: th-cam.com/video/tPU6UOSVSBE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hES-rU97tCmnEhOg
Your videos, for me and certainly others, are very well presented and address the topic concisely; thank you. Question: When fertilizing in the garden are the nutrients given at the "basal" or "drip line" and outward (inside or outside the tire)?
Important to know all this. I bought a rose fertilizer and was told by the fellow at one of the large nurseries in the lower mainland, that it was just for roses. I have used it on other things as well after listening to you. My Zephirine Drouhin rose in a half barrel, with about half potting soil is growing like a weed (bought it in May), but man, does it have fungus. We had a very hot Summer as you know, and it gets watered with a little spout for itself. There is sprayed water nearby. The upper leaves in full sun are covered in white. I've tried Neem Oil and the Safers brand anti-fungal spray. Tbh, I wasn't very regular with it. I was better at the beginning and it was almost under control, but now, it seems pointless to do anything. Love the growth, but hardly any flowers. Again, I wasn't fertilizing on a regular basis. The soil was about 1/3 potting soil, 1/3 vegetable mix from that seaweed soil company, and 1/3 purchased black earth. Any ideas? Is this normal for first year? Thanks Jason.
This won't be comforting, but it's normal for Zephirine Drouhin. Beautiful flowers, but I've given up growing Zeph in our climate because of its extreme vulnerability to BS and PM. Sorry!
Darn. Another year wasted. After I bought it, another girl I follow gave up on hers. Oh well, onward and upward! I'll find another climber that is pink and disease resistant.@@FraserValleyRoseFarm 🤞
Love your channel and just subscribed to it. I look forward to learning more about roses. First question, though, is what is the name of the pink roses that start this video? The one in the upper left of the intro picture looks like the one in my yard. The trunk on my rose "tree" is as thick as my arm and looks like it is about 100 years old. Big cat head looking roses. I love it. Super delicate smell. It was in the ground when I bought this house that was built in the 1920s. Thank you for all the information you share with us!
Thank you for the video! I was wondering what's that beautiful rose right behind you. It might be useful to list that on the description box, unless it's just me who's being curious of course.
Thank you so much for sharing! Do you stop fertilizing 6 weeks before the first frost? The average first frost for my area is Nov 1st, but my miniature rose is now budding, it has like a hundred buds, and I'm very tempted to give it liquid fertilizer! I've just moved it from a pot to the ground.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you very much for your reply! This is my first year growing roses, and I have been learning from many different channels. So far, the popular opinion from the English speaking western countries is to stop fertilizing to prepare for winter; however, Chinese breeders and nurseries recommend to continue fertilizing with phosphorus and potassium to boost fall flowers. Chinese professional gardeners recommend to increase fertilizing in late summer or early fall after temperature drops below 30C and then change to none nitrogen fertilizer to prepare for winter. It's interesting to learn different ways for growing
Thank you for all your valuable information as I continue to add to my rose collection. I bought the pellets but then am hesitant now to use them in the garden because I am concerned about attracting more rodents and more wild life into my garden with those pellets. What do you advise?
Water them in promptly and mis with the top layers of soil. They'll break down fast. We sure haven't seen any issues with rodents taking an interest in the alfalfa pellets here.
Hey Jason how much should you fertilize new bare root roses planted in the spring? I’ve heard conflicting information about when to first start fertilizing your new roses, love your videos
I like to see them rooted and putting up new growth before I add much in the way of fertilizer. 6 weeks after planting is a decent time to look at it again.
Could you do a video on using seaweed in the various forms for roses? Also, what is the best soil testing type service? It's hard to know corporate hype, online cowboys etc. I'm the UK. A rule of thumb for choosing would be great. I did my own ph dipping test on moving in - But I assume that's pretty useless. Thanks
Sure thing - I'll put the seaweed/kelp topic onto my list. Soil testing is already on the list, but in the meanwhile you're right that the self-testing kits are of pretty limited value.
I'm also in UK and very interested to know about liquid seafood foliage sprays. I have a digital ph tester too but am dubious about its usefulness. And if like me you heavily mulch with manure how deep should one test the soil (assume it will very with deprh?)
Sure - well it depends on the format of ferts you're applying. Controlled release in a pot usually has a # of months for release. So if you incorporate the fertilizer at the time of planting, the rest is just reapplying when the ferts run out. For the soluble formulations it's 2x feed/1x flush through the season. Watering needs slow down as we go into winter, and so fertilizer slows too. In the ground if any supplementation is needed at all, it's just during active growth early spring through summer, and I back of for sure by 6-8 weeks before the first frost.
Hi 👋🏼 Could you explain the roles of phosphorus, and potassium in rose growing. Thank you! Also, could you recommend a granular fertilizer please. I’m in western Washington.
Hi Paula. Well there's lots of specific info on google or wikipedia about the way plants use phosphorus or potassium - notably in photosynthesis and energy transfer for P and the movement of water, nutrients and the opening/closing of stomata for K. But I'm not sure breaking it down to that level is very useful: they're both required, and no one nutrient on its own can be said to be "the flowering nutrient" or to be solely responsible for vegetative growth. One of the reasons I don't go into specific brand recommendations in the video is because it varies so much from region to region. A quick search for your region turned up "Walt's Rainy PNW Blend" at 7-4-9 - not too far off the recommendations. But really shop for just shop for price and local availability within the simplified NPK range of 2-1-2 up to 3-1-3 and you'll be fine.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm THANK YOU very much. I did look up the info, but wanted to know YOUR explanation. Interestingly enough, I cannot find a fertilizer without the P being way high. I’ve looked at several nurseries and about 25 bags and they don’t even come close to your recommended numbers.
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Hello mate. Brilliant videos thanks 👍 My question is in England we have always been told to use horse manure on our roses usually as fresh as possible. What's your thoughts please All the best Joe 👍
I can see both sides of it - and I don't see the harm so long as you're aware it's "coming in hot". I think fresh poultry manure might tip over into dangerous.
It'll probably do to the job, but you honestly can't know what your garden plants need without a soil test, and over time you're likely to add something (the most likely candidate is phosphorus) in an unhelpful quantity. In a pot, I'd be more likely to go with a 3-1-2 (or similar simplified ratio) and in the ground it's probably best to go with bulk organic amendments like manure or compost that are generally replacing the lost N and adding just a little bit else.
Thank you Jason, great information. I have a question about two plants- I cut back an established rose of sharon last fall and it grew back beautifully. But, some of the branches grew back very soft and they broke under the weight of the flowers, not sure why? The same issue has happened to my Crimsoneyed rose-mallow. Any ideas? (live in Surrey). Thank you
Hi Jason,This video is really very helpful! You explain everything so nicely! I have some rooted rose cuttings which have have potted up 3 weeks ago. I have a liquid fertilizer for transplanting rose, it is Bonide Root & Grow. Should I apply a small very diluted amount of this Root & Grow fertilizers to these rooted cuttings once a week? Please advice.
Sure, you can start them off at half strength out of caution, but you can move them on to the full recommended strength when the roots reach the sides or bottom of the pot
Hi Jason, i have a question about fish fertiliser, some say we cannot mix synthetic fertiliser with fish fertiliser because it can lead to root rot, do you have any to say about this? I cant seem to find any information about this
only this year that I started to fertilized my gardens, and I read the label ingredients, must say my garden doing better, however my question is where I can by a lager amount of organic fertilize in Ontario i.e., 50 LB a bag in order to save money and time.Thank you 😊
It's often better to work through suppliers in the agriculture/horticulture industry if they sell to the public. I know the local suppliers here in BC, but I'm unfamiliar with those in Ontario so it may take you a little Googling and leg-work. Have a quick look at someplace like Alliance Agri-Turf for starters - they came up in a cursory search.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you for your respond, according to the Alliance Agri -turf website they dealing with a professional landscape and farmer needs. They are also specialized in lawn, my plan is to re-design my garden, (Eco style), and one of the issues in my garden is also re-doing the lawn, the Alliance Agri -turf company are one hour drive from where I live, however according to their site they are willing to customized fertilize bag according to the customer request, for sure I will contact them, is not a long-distance call and I will keep you posted thanks. 🙂
I have quite a few Alba roses, one in particular Celestial flowers beautifully, but almost before she has finished flowering her leaves, turn yellow and fall off, and she becomes very prone to blackspot, and presuming she is just exhausted from producing so many beautiful flowers, but how can I stop her leaves turning yellow and falling off?
That's a tough one to troubleshoot from afar. I'd be double checking all growing conditions: exposure, drainage, soil, watering. I'd also be looking for any early signs of pests or foliar disease preceding the leaf drop. I haven't seen anything similar on my Alba's, so I can't offer anything from experience, but some stress is causing the symptoms. From my experience when it's that dramatic it's more often a root problem (over/under watering, poor drainage or overfeeding)
I'm glad you asked the question, but the premise is way off: there's no one nutrient responsible for flowering! A healthy rose with a balanced supply of all required nutrients will bloom best when the environmental conditions are favorable. In the research (and I read far more studies than the ones I featured) cut flower roses were most reactive to N and K, but as mentioned the growing conditions are also super important.
One point that is worth making is some fertilizers test poorly on the npk scale but are potentially much better than the numbers indicate. One fertilizer blender in the US ram into this when getting his product tested. His product was rated 6-1-2 but on the test report the actual numbers were 18-12-10 I believe it was but because the nutrients were not immediately plant available, they do not count it on the rating despite being in a form that readily breaks down into plant available.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarmThey are well established… by chemical fertilizer companies who wanted to keep organic fertilizers from sounding just as good. I’m certainly not against chemical fertilizers (and often use them) but they really do need to play fair and allow others to properly advertise their fertilizer.
Nitron A35 Soil Conditioner list micronutrients 0.1% iron, 0.05% manganese, and 0.05% zinc. It's diluted as applied, so even those minimal numbers need to be divided by 192 to get the applied concentration. The direct nutrient effect is minimal, so it comes down to how much you can trust some vague claim of enzymatic action. Like other products in the category I've looked at, they rely on "faith" rather than published studies or direct, measurable claims about their product. While it's true that soil enzymes like urease can have strong (positive and negative) effects, the supplier doesn't appear to quantify the presence of any enzymes, nor get specific about the results they observed (if at all). They say it "breaks chemical bonds" (which ones, how much? Surely they've tested it and can offer evidence) and will "enhance soil texture" (try measuring that claim), "improve access to nutrients" (again, which ones, how much?), "improve compatibility" with other scientifically questionable soil boosters like EM-1, and "improve germination" (sure they could offer a number on that...). Like I said at the very end of the video, it's always possible I can be proven wrong about one or another of these "enhancers", but they seem to be putting almost zero effort into proving their claims. Surely if you're going to bottle a gallon of vaguely sweet smelling brown liquid and sell it for $50, you ought to be tripping over yourself to point to the real scientific data that proves effectiveness. Otherwise, couldn't any charlatan bottle some molasses with diluted humic acid for pennies a bottle and make equally vague claims for massive profits.
Not so much. I hold back entirely in the garden at about 6 weeks from first frost. In containers, I continue my 2 cycle feed/1 cycle flush when I water, but the watering needs go way down, and so does the feeding then.
Very dry summer here. Many good rain days here recently. I'll Get metaphysical. Maybe that was God's way of bumping plants in Indian summer in late September to make it. We always see misting fall rains here in fall. What I call Vietnam.
When i was a small child ..us kids ( my sister & i ) used to go to our neighbour’s flat above ours when he got back from work .. he used to boil fish for his dinner & give the cooled water he boiled it in to a rose bush in a big pot on the edge of the balcony in East Africa.. his rose bush was totally covered in red roses .. more flowers then leaves.. my sisters use to ask for a flower in the morning on our way to school.. he used to cut one & toss it to us.. i was only 4-5 then.. sixties.. never forget this 🌹 rose.. he used to work at a textile factory & would give us a big book to look through the samples of materials .. hi Jason ..it’s me from London England 🏴
Water from pressure cooker after softening chicken bones for the dogs might be good for roses?
@@fernly2 bone meal is usually good.. i’d seen a crime story where the lady used to bury her victims under the front garden flowerbeds & her roses were the biggest on the whole of her neighbourhood & road & that’s how she got caught..so may be.. just don’t get caught being mistaken for something strange is going on .. tell them .. there’s just chicken bones under there.. you can check’um out if you want if the law comes sniffing around
What a beautiful memory to have.
@@aexiga87 thank you ma’am.. a lovely memory indeed
@@aexiga87 I’m age 62 now
Hi Jason, very useful information as I have all my roses in containers. 😊 many thanks
My pleasure Pauline
Very useful, thanks Jason.
Thank you Jason, as always very useful information! 🍁🍂🍁💚🙃
Goodness, how can anyone manage to impart so much essential info into such a short video? This is excellent, Jason, thank you!
Will certainly be keeping this one handy for future reference -even took some screenshots 😁
Greetings from England 🏴
Thanks so much Elie
Since nitrogen is needed for rose can I use diluted overnight urine for NY potted roses
Thank you Mr Fraser I learn today from you about fertilizer for roses and I will use your tactic in the next spring 🙏👍👍👍
Thank you for your information.
Very helpful for this new rose owner(new house, 27 neglected mature plants).
I'm so glad you found it useful!
Oooooh.
Another WINNER! This was the best info I have heard in my many decades of rose growing. I have been using Dr. Earth Rose and Flower fertilizer. I’m definitely going to reconsider my choice. ❤
I'm so glad you found it useful.
I just listen to Jason’s good reply on “ can i use tomato feed on roses ?… “ you bet ya “ was the answer & i’ve never seen more healthier roses then mine in my life before.. thanks Jason.. i’m now waiting for my damasks & mosses & whatever roses you had shown on that “ rosy “ video.. they’re all heading to me .. 28 of them..hopefully next month or early November.. i thought of you just yesterday as i was ogling at rose centifolia .. the morroco rose..& there’s 2 flowers on the rose cutting in the back garden..now very big .. the one that the dog had chewed down in the front garden..
Fertilizer - the most confusing thing for me about growing roses. Just checked my specialised "Rose Fertilizers" -
Neptune's Harvest Rose and Flowering formula (which I spent a fortune on) - 2-6-4; Nutrite Rose Food - 7:11:10; Miracle Gro rose food - 18-24-16; and Miracle Gro Ultra Bloom 10-18-9 - all have a higher phosphorus amount. My roses are all in the ground and look just "OK", but nothing like they all promised!! After watching your video, I'll now ignore the branding and watch for the N-P-K numbers you recommend. Thanks for the info!!
You're so welcome. Another case of learning how to ignore marketing hype!
quick good video, its also worth noting in places like australia you can't really get ferts with high phos levels in it due to the native plants not being suited to it. my normal rose fert is 17:1:10 or 9:4:12 or 7:1:4
Thanks - good to know. And I've seen wonderful rose gardens in Australia, so it seems the P isn't all it's cracked up to be!
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The "P" does benefit the development of fruit, so I wonder if there might be a benefit for the development of rose hips?
But, you are right about very little benefit for flowering plants unless the soil fortification is out of balance or lacking somehow.
I use a K-Mag 0-12-12 when my mango trees and other fruit trees bloom as the blossoms start to wilt and set fruit. The P-K and micro nutrients encourage fruit set and development. I am going to sprinkle about half a cup around each rose bush to see if there is any benefit to rose hip development or if it makes any difference at all. Definitely no Nitrogen as the plants are preparing for dormancy.
Thank you for this info! Having worked in the industry, I'm well familiar with "rose food" products higher in the phosphorous department, lol! A confusing subject where most people don't understand the process of how nutrients actually get inside the plant and how they contrubute to growth for fruit & flower production once inside. This lack of knowledge forces the public to rely on someone else's guesses and formulas on what your roses need. In my experience, I found that customers prefer to rely on sales saff for information on fertilizers but don't realize that staff is limited to products supplied by the manufacturers (products that need to be sold at all costs) and oftentimes coupled with a lack of knowledge on the part of staff members themselves.
There's an excellent book titled "Teaming With Nutrients" - the Organic Gardener's guide to optimizing plant nutrition by Jeff Lowenfels - explaining plant biology, basic biochemistry and the facets of organic nutrients, chemical fetrilizers and how they actually work.
Thanks so much! I'll have to look for that book
Thank you very much for your very informative lesson.
As usual, an EXCELLENT, HIGHLY INFORMATIVE video!!! Thanks Jason!!! 😊 I bet Laura at Garden Answer would love your input. She lives in Oregon! Thanks again! 🌹🌹🌹
Thanks so much Deborah. Coincidentally, I did reach out to Garden Answer not too long ago. Honestly, I think they're just so successful (and therefore busy) that they'd have a hard time keeping up with all the requests. And there can't be time for everything!
Jason, my daughter planted a rose garden this spring. We are close to winter now. Do you have a video about prepping roses for winter and overwintering them?
Thanks. I'm in a climate with a relatively mild winter, so I can't give the best advice for harsher areas, but here's my vid on the topic: th-cam.com/video/tPU6UOSVSBE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hES-rU97tCmnEhOg
Your videos, for me and certainly others, are very well presented and address the topic concisely; thank you.
Question: When fertilizing in the garden are the nutrients given at the "basal" or "drip line" and outward (inside or outside the tire)?
In my garden, it's inside the tire.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you.
Important to know all this. I bought a rose fertilizer and was told by the fellow at one of the large nurseries in the lower mainland, that it was just for roses. I have used it on other things as well after listening to you. My Zephirine Drouhin rose in a half barrel, with about half potting soil is growing like a weed (bought it in May), but man, does it have fungus. We had a very hot Summer as you know, and it gets watered with a little spout for itself. There is sprayed water nearby. The upper leaves in full sun are covered in white. I've tried Neem Oil and the Safers brand anti-fungal spray. Tbh, I wasn't very regular with it. I was better at the beginning and it was almost under control, but now, it seems pointless to do anything. Love the growth, but hardly any flowers. Again, I wasn't fertilizing on a regular basis. The soil was about 1/3 potting soil, 1/3 vegetable mix from that seaweed soil company, and 1/3 purchased black earth. Any ideas? Is this normal for first year? Thanks Jason.
This won't be comforting, but it's normal for Zephirine Drouhin. Beautiful flowers, but I've given up growing Zeph in our climate because of its extreme vulnerability to BS and PM. Sorry!
Darn. Another year wasted. After I bought it, another girl I follow gave up on hers. Oh well, onward and upward! I'll find another climber that is pink and disease resistant.@@FraserValleyRoseFarm 🤞
Love your channel and just subscribed to it. I look forward to learning more about roses. First question, though, is what is the name of the pink roses that start this video? The one in the upper left of the intro picture looks like the one in my yard. The trunk on my rose "tree" is as thick as my arm and looks like it is about 100 years old. Big cat head looking roses. I love it. Super delicate smell. It was in the ground when I bought this house that was built in the 1920s. Thank you for all the information you share with us!
Very much my pleasure. The pink rose on the title screen is the last best bloomer in my garden this year: Roberto Capucci
Thank you so much. And what a QUICK response!@@FraserValleyRoseFarm
Thank you for the video! I was wondering what's that beautiful rose right behind you. It might be useful to list that on the description box, unless it's just me who's being curious of course.
Thanks so much. That's Daybreaker
Thank you so much for sharing! Do you stop fertilizing 6 weeks before the first frost? The average first frost for my area is Nov 1st, but my miniature rose is now budding, it has like a hundred buds, and I'm very tempted to give it liquid fertilizer! I've just moved it from a pot to the ground.
Yes, roughly 6 weeks ahead for roses in the landscape.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you very much for your reply! This is my first year growing roses, and I have been learning from many different channels. So far, the popular opinion from the English speaking western countries is to stop fertilizing to prepare for winter; however, Chinese breeders and nurseries recommend to continue fertilizing with phosphorus and potassium to boost fall flowers. Chinese professional gardeners recommend to increase fertilizing in late summer or early fall after temperature drops below 30C and then change to none nitrogen fertilizer to prepare for winter. It's interesting to learn different ways for growing
Thank you for all your valuable information as I continue to add to my rose collection. I bought the pellets but then am hesitant now to use them in the garden because I am concerned about attracting more rodents and more wild life into my garden with those pellets. What do you advise?
Water them in promptly and mis with the top layers of soil. They'll break down fast. We sure haven't seen any issues with rodents taking an interest in the alfalfa pellets here.
Hey Jason how much should you fertilize new bare root roses planted in the spring? I’ve heard conflicting information about when to first start fertilizing your new roses, love your videos
I like to see them rooted and putting up new growth before I add much in the way of fertilizer. 6 weeks after planting is a decent time to look at it again.
Could you do a video on using seaweed in the various forms for roses? Also, what is the best soil testing type service? It's hard to know corporate hype, online cowboys etc. I'm the UK. A rule of thumb for choosing would be great. I did my own ph dipping test on moving in - But I assume that's pretty useless. Thanks
Sure thing - I'll put the seaweed/kelp topic onto my list. Soil testing is already on the list, but in the meanwhile you're right that the self-testing kits are of pretty limited value.
Thanks for all the work you put in to educate growers x @@FraserValleyRoseFarm
I'm also in UK and very interested to know about liquid seafood foliage sprays. I have a digital ph tester too but am dubious about its usefulness. And if like me you heavily mulch with manure how deep should one test the soil (assume it will very with deprh?)
Thank you. Can you mention when to fertilize?
Sure - well it depends on the format of ferts you're applying. Controlled release in a pot usually has a # of months for release. So if you incorporate the fertilizer at the time of planting, the rest is just reapplying when the ferts run out. For the soluble formulations it's 2x feed/1x flush through the season. Watering needs slow down as we go into winter, and so fertilizer slows too. In the ground if any supplementation is needed at all, it's just during active growth early spring through summer, and I back of for sure by 6-8 weeks before the first frost.
Hi 👋🏼 Could you explain the roles of phosphorus, and potassium in rose growing. Thank you! Also, could you recommend a granular fertilizer please. I’m in western Washington.
Hi Paula. Well there's lots of specific info on google or wikipedia about the way plants use phosphorus or potassium - notably in photosynthesis and energy transfer for P and the movement of water, nutrients and the opening/closing of stomata for K. But I'm not sure breaking it down to that level is very useful: they're both required, and no one nutrient on its own can be said to be "the flowering nutrient" or to be solely responsible for vegetative growth. One of the reasons I don't go into specific brand recommendations in the video is because it varies so much from region to region. A quick search for your region turned up "Walt's Rainy PNW Blend" at 7-4-9 - not too far off the recommendations. But really shop for just shop for price and local availability within the simplified NPK range of 2-1-2 up to 3-1-3 and you'll be fine.
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THANK YOU very much. I did look up the info, but wanted to know YOUR explanation. Interestingly enough, I cannot find a fertilizer without the P being way high. I’ve looked at several nurseries and about 25 bags and they don’t even come close to your recommended numbers.
Ooooo…I found Walt’s on Amazon! THANK YOU!!!!!
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My question is in England we have always been told to use horse manure on our roses usually as fresh as possible. What's your thoughts please
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I can see both sides of it - and I don't see the harm so long as you're aware it's "coming in hot". I think fresh poultry manure might tip over into dangerous.
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Hi Jason, thank you for this video. I usually use 20-20-20 for all plants in the garden, to you judge this correct? Thank you!
It'll probably do to the job, but you honestly can't know what your garden plants need without a soil test, and over time you're likely to add something (the most likely candidate is phosphorus) in an unhelpful quantity. In a pot, I'd be more likely to go with a 3-1-2 (or similar simplified ratio) and in the ground it's probably best to go with bulk organic amendments like manure or compost that are generally replacing the lost N and adding just a little bit else.
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Thank you Jason, great information.
I have a question about two plants-
I cut back an established rose of sharon last fall and it grew back beautifully. But, some of the branches grew back very soft and they broke under the weight of the flowers, not sure why?
The same issue has happened to my Crimsoneyed rose-mallow.
Any ideas? (live in Surrey).
Thank you
No exact solution, but I'd consider alternating the timing of pruning to the spring and see if it makes a difference.
Interesting
Hi Jason,This video is really very helpful! You explain everything so nicely! I have some rooted rose cuttings which have have potted up 3 weeks ago. I have a liquid fertilizer for transplanting rose, it is Bonide Root & Grow. Should I apply a small very diluted amount of this Root & Grow fertilizers to these rooted cuttings once a week? Please advice.
Sure, you can start them off at half strength out of caution, but you can move them on to the full recommended strength when the roots reach the sides or bottom of the pot
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Hi Jason, i have a question about fish fertiliser, some say we cannot mix synthetic fertiliser with fish fertiliser because it can lead to root rot, do you have any to say about this? I cant seem to find any information about this
No, that's not something I've heard and I have no clue why that would be a particular concern with mixing fertilizer. Sounds like a folk myth to me.
only this year that I started to fertilized my gardens, and I read the label ingredients, must say my
garden doing better, however my question is where I can by a lager amount of organic fertilize in
Ontario i.e., 50 LB a bag in order to save money and time.Thank you 😊
It's often better to work through suppliers in the agriculture/horticulture industry if they sell to the public. I know the local suppliers here in BC, but I'm unfamiliar with those in Ontario so it may take you a little Googling and leg-work. Have a quick look at someplace like Alliance Agri-Turf for starters - they came up in a cursory search.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you for your respond, according to the Alliance Agri -turf website they dealing with a professional landscape and farmer needs. They are also specialized in lawn, my plan is to re-design my garden, (Eco style), and one of the issues in my garden is also re-doing the lawn, the Alliance Agri -turf company are one hour drive from where I live, however according to their site they are willing to customized fertilize bag according to the customer request, for sure I will contact them, is not a long-distance call and I will keep you posted thanks. 🙂
I have quite a few Alba roses, one in particular Celestial flowers beautifully, but almost before she has finished flowering her leaves, turn yellow and fall off, and she becomes very prone to blackspot, and presuming she is just exhausted from producing so many beautiful flowers, but how can I stop her leaves turning yellow and falling off?
That's a tough one to troubleshoot from afar. I'd be double checking all growing conditions: exposure, drainage, soil, watering. I'd also be looking for any early signs of pests or foliar disease preceding the leaf drop. I haven't seen anything similar on my Alba's, so I can't offer anything from experience, but some stress is causing the symptoms. From my experience when it's that dramatic it's more often a root problem (over/under watering, poor drainage or overfeeding)
Jason i’ve bought horse manure feed for my roses by westerland as they like well rotted organic feeds .. am i ok to do that please?
You bet
Which nutrient is responsible for the actual flowering part? I have a few roses that grow and grow but never flower.
I'm glad you asked the question, but the premise is way off: there's no one nutrient responsible for flowering! A healthy rose with a balanced supply of all required nutrients will bloom best when the environmental conditions are favorable. In the research (and I read far more studies than the ones I featured) cut flower roses were most reactive to N and K, but as mentioned the growing conditions are also super important.
Do once blooming roses need fertilizing only once a year compared to repeat blooming roses?
I'd feed them just about the same way - to support healthy growth.
hi jason is the middle number been higher is that good for flowers?
No. The evidence showed the opposite. Best flowering was with a lower middle number something like 12-6-8 or 15-5-15 (as examples)
thank you so much! cant wait for next spring now lol
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FERTILISING POTTED ROSES
One point that is worth making is some fertilizers test poorly on the npk scale but are potentially much better than the numbers indicate.
One fertilizer blender in the US ram into this when getting his product tested. His product was rated 6-1-2 but on the test report the actual numbers were 18-12-10 I believe it was but because the nutrients were not immediately plant available, they do not count it on the rating despite being in a form that readily breaks down into plant available.
Thanks. I hadn't heard about any issues with NPK testing - I would have thought those standards would be pretty well established by now.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarmThey are well established… by chemical fertilizer companies who wanted to keep organic fertilizers from sounding just as good.
I’m certainly not against chemical fertilizers (and often use them) but they really do need to play fair and allow others to properly advertise their fertilizer.
where do you obtain your soil tests
A local agriculture supplier, Terralink
Why do you tires around the roses?
Thanks. I talk about them here: th-cam.com/video/u0-cnrOZvRo/w-d-xo.html but basically it's to protect the roses from the lawn mower & string trimmer
So no acidic soil fertilizer? Normal one?
Not unless you also need your soil pH adjusted.
NITRON soil conditioner please comment on that,
Nitron A35 Soil Conditioner list micronutrients 0.1% iron, 0.05% manganese, and 0.05% zinc. It's diluted as applied, so even those minimal numbers need to be divided by 192 to get the applied concentration. The direct nutrient effect is minimal, so it comes down to how much you can trust some vague claim of enzymatic action. Like other products in the category I've looked at, they rely on "faith" rather than published studies or direct, measurable claims about their product. While it's true that soil enzymes like urease can have strong (positive and negative) effects, the supplier doesn't appear to quantify the presence of any enzymes, nor get specific about the results they observed (if at all). They say it "breaks chemical bonds" (which ones, how much? Surely they've tested it and can offer evidence) and will "enhance soil texture" (try measuring that claim), "improve access to nutrients" (again, which ones, how much?), "improve compatibility" with other scientifically questionable soil boosters like EM-1, and "improve germination" (sure they could offer a number on that...). Like I said at the very end of the video, it's always possible I can be proven wrong about one or another of these "enhancers", but they seem to be putting almost zero effort into proving their claims. Surely if you're going to bottle a gallon of vaguely sweet smelling brown liquid and sell it for $50, you ought to be tripping over yourself to point to the real scientific data that proves effectiveness. Otherwise, couldn't any charlatan bottle some molasses with diluted humic acid for pennies a bottle and make equally vague claims for massive profits.
Do you fertilize in the fall?
Not so much. I hold back entirely in the garden at about 6 weeks from first frost. In containers, I continue my 2 cycle feed/1 cycle flush when I water, but the watering needs go way down, and so does the feeding then.
Very dry summer here. Many good rain days here recently. I'll Get metaphysical. Maybe that was God's way of bumping plants in Indian summer in late September to make it. We always see misting fall rains here in fall. What I call Vietnam.
What has Zeus to do with it?
Excellent video. Should I be adding a fertilizer in the fall on my roses ?
Not really - I hold back in the fall to let them settle down for the winter.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm even to the new roses I just got , so just plant them and let be ?
Again,thank you .
Yes, pretty much. They're just getting their roots into the soil for now and don't need a lot of excess nutrients.