Yesssss. So happy to hear you mention the cup. It has transformed my comfort to cycle while I’m on my period. Including going for a wee while cycling. If anyone is unsure… go for it!!! You will not look back.
Clear answers to difficult questions, that's how we like it. I always use a handkerchief to blow my nose, without a part ending up in my ear and the rest on my fingers 🤧. I will clearly have to practice more.. A little joke to close: Where is the rear side of a tree? Where the poop lays. Keep enjoying your bike rides.
Can’t agree more on the saddle, I changed mine recently and the new one seems virtually identical in shape and feel to the old one, but the comfort difference is like night and day.
Thank you for talking about the other 50% of the climb - getting back down. I love climbing, but especially steep gravel/mtb tracks scare the hell out of me sometimes. In some cases I push the bike down, but you are right, this is sometimes even worse than just going through it.
I am SO tired of all these fake social media personalities always showing the posh life as if everything is always perfect! Look at this one, sitting in a.... , nondescript room? in a tshirt? talking about pooping outside? Uh, hold on, is this actual useful information real people can use? She's a gem this Katie Kookabura!
Using the word "stupid" in this context is really unhelpful. If people are embarrassed about stuff there needs to be a supportive environment in which they can raise them, without feeling "stupid". It's nothing to do with "individualism" and more to do with being judged.
@@canningsimon yeah, I agree. I just wish it wasn’t so. We all have the same bodily functions and it’s bizarre to me that we live in a society and moment in time where there there is so much shame and embarrassment about them.
I use Shimano SPD pedals because I used to go spinning and those are the pedals they use, so if I rode my bike to the gym it made sense to use the same shoes. Plus they are a damn sight easier to walk in that "proper" road cleats. There is little or no evidence that they are any worse in any way, and certainly not at my level, so it's a bit of a no-brainer. The only downside is the reduced shoe selection, but honestly, there are so many on the market these days it's not really an issue
Funny thing about the chafe/saddle/hair removal/numbness thing - I've never had so many conversations about my 'bits' in my whole life as I've had out on a long ride with the bunch. Seems like it's an academic discussion, talking about our own bodies in the third person.
Hi Katie supper informative video and very honest but were all human Ive never had any shame when it comes to ppl asking about toileting (I'm glad you mention about not leaving wipes/paper, most think you just bury them too and also to be mindful about being near water sources, I use a water filter 😱) I'm relatively new to the long distance cycling scene but used to do long distance hiking/backpacking so kinda the same. just to help anyone I don't shave anywhere, or wear lycra/padded shorts never used creme either doing 50-60 mile a day on bike touring trips, I only wear quick dry hiking pants/cargo shorts +cotton boxers I know everyones different but do think saddle choice is extremely important and mostly determines what you need to wear and not wear "depending on activity" im not into speed and my T-shirts can act like a sail dragging my speed to a crawl depending on wind direction 😂, but like you say its what your comfortable wearing, for anyone who's interested I use the brooks b17 its fantastic!, I was sceptical at first because its rock hard and slippy turns out these qualities are what make it perfect for long distance at first i did have pressure pain on my sit bones to start but no numbness and nothing lasting when off the bike and nothing that put me off getting back on the bike, for comparison my old saddle was grippy and slightly cushioned it would grip loose clothing and rub me raw the longer I rode, I think the cushioning just made it more painful I had a whole host of numbness and pain in my nether regions never gotten any better.
Very well done Katie, and brave! Been riding in Melbourne, Australia (Beach Rd. of course..!) for about 30 years now. It's great to see so many more women riding now, and getting this awkward information out there can only help more women feel comfortable about the complications of riding.
- I do wear casual t-shirt and short, with an under-short. - Why don't you bury your paper with the rest !? You bring it back home, to throw it in the toilet so that it ends up down the near river ? - I do use paper handkerchief, and always carry several ones for my rides (and use Atrovent to reduce the runny nose effect by 90%).
Great tips. I did a gravel ride recently and when on the road section I had a moped rider empty the contents of his nose on me during overtaking me, he shouted some profanity after doing it. I don't think he liked bicycles on the road. Glad I ride mostly MTB trails and forest gravel tracks in Wales.
Great vid Katie. Things that women in particular, have to figure in, on long rides. Makes your exploits even more remarkable. Hope the achilles is enjoying the break, have a great weekend.
I went kayaking down the arkan River in Sweden.for pooping we would use a stick to spread it..(helps the worms do their job). Like you, for tissue we rolled it up into a plastic bag (dog poop bag). Placed in bin when able.
ok, embarassing question - what gears do you have on your climbing bike? I live in a hilly area, and just bought a second hand bike with a 52/36 and 11/30 and I'm struggling a bit on the hills. I'm thinking of changing to a 11/34 at the back (as I have a long cage rear mech), will that be enough or should I change to a 50/34 at the front also? I'm 107kg at the moment and trying to get down a bit... ok a lot, but getting up the hills will be a start, otherwise the bike will stay in the shed
it's great that you made a video like this! However I do think there is a "price" for going fast downhills since descending is part of cycling too, not just climbing and riding on the flats. But I am obviously not trying to make less experienced riders, descenders to take huge risks.
Great video. I am still very nervous descending despite living in Sheffield! I just go super slow and I try not to feel bad that others have to wait. I have found discs are better for wet weather. I try not to shave but it's a bit tricky for swimming!
Good tips thanks. Interesting answer on the ingrown hairs. I suffer from something called a pilonidal sinus which saw me in hospital in aldershot in the 90s needing an op. I was always told to keep it clean and dry and have always used veet and a hygiene routine mainly because the sweat builds up and uses the hair to get in cause infection which is incredibly painful. No idea about hairs elsewhere but certainly there I’d be inclined to get rid. Not disagreeing with what you said but found it interesting with the different advice.
Clean and dry is not different to what I said, I said don’t wax or shave which aggravates the skin and hair follicle :) you can still be clean using a trimmer or getting lazer to remove hair.
Im not afraid of descent per se. Im afraid that the nice road will end and transform into some unpaved road full of rocks or I will enocunter road full of cracks in the middle of descent. Happened to me few times while doing routes for the first time. Also I'm always riding my gravel bike in MTB shorts, I cant get used to lycra but this does not bother me at all. I feel comfortable and thats all what matter.
Okay another embarrassing question is, it seems as if you are used to and comfortable pooping while on a long ride and I am sure you try to find as much privacy as you can, but you never can always find a private place like behind a bush. So have you had to poop and did someone stumble upon you while you pooped? If so how did you handle it and what was the person's reaction? I think runner Paula Radcliffe was in competition and had to poop and just dropped shorts and pooped in in front of spectators. She didn't want to lose the race by finding a proper toilet.
Brilliant for you to talk about lady issues whilst riding, never seen anyone speak about this before, inspiring for sure. What would you recommend for skin pinching on the inside of the groin. Inevitably, I'll get quite a sore boil after so many rides. Shorts feel comfortable, seat feels fine 🤷♂️
Always keeping it real uh ? Really appreciate the honest approach 😃 It was about things we experience on a regular basis though, males and females, might as well exchange views on it; At the very beginning, I thought saddle pain was to be endured stoically, it was a matter of pride!! My god, how foolish of me! 🤧 And the outtake made me scream with laughter 😅🤣 Wish you an entertaining weekend!
Well done. Some things need to be mentioned. I was surprised when a female rider told me my bib shorts were translucent! I was mortified, but accepting. It was not intentional but the honestly was appreciated.
I live on the wrong side of the pond, and once got asked if I was wearing some kind of European shorts by another cyclist. I was very confused, but finally realized the back had ripped partially open and my butt was showing (yes, people here somehow thought that must be some kind of wild European style thing!)
Hi Katie, great video, re ladies and being comfy while riding. My wife was always coming back from a bike ride very sore, after a trip to the Boardman Performance Centre in 2018 for a bike fit, Bianca Broadbent suggested Cavilon cream as a posed to chamois cream (as my wife has very sensitive skin and was also reacting to chamois creams) along with a Specialized Power Expert saddle and Kalas bib shorts (both Zoom X and 3D endurance pads) she can now enjoy her bike again with no issues 👍
Cavilon is brilliant stuff, nurse gave me a tube for bedsores after I broke my hip(not one of my better rides!) and was horizontal for 3 months . When I started riding again I tried using it and was very pleased with it's performance. You only need a small amount, it's clean/not messy. I guess a pressure sore is similar whether from a bed or a saddle. Steve
Very interesting and useful Katie. Here's a question I can never get a straight answer for - I understand using chamois cream to stop rubbing from saddle but on 200k plus rides I find sweat/rain running down the front of one's shorts. Is Chamois cream still the best option then ? seems a bit counter productive in sticking the shorts to your frontal area?
Hi Katie that was good what you said we're still in lockdown l am 160 kms from Melbourne l have been watching tour of Spain some good Aussie riders having ago
I have to say I bailed on this video at the popping part. And I didn’t need to hear the part about managing one’s period on the bike. But I don’t see any chapters called “snot rockets”. Learn how to do those right, or it’s a mess! My pro tip for the day.
Have you ever felt self-conscious about re-arranging your injury house? lol These questions could be the very things in people's minds that make them hesitant about riding. Good video!
I'm sorry but this is sort of greenwashing. Even bamboo bio-degradable wipes challenge the environment until they do eventually decompose. They do not belong anywhere in the countryside, as they are ugly to see lying around in bushes, could end up in water sources or eaten by animals, and we certainly do not want that.
When they break or you want to change. They very rarely break, just require some maintenance. Shimano are a few mins with a couple of tools and some grease. See TH-cam videos.
Any advice for dealing with the ingrown hairs / subcutaneous cysts when they happen? Hard area to see to go pimple popping... Also, if a train goes past whilst you are answering the call of nature, don't worry, you'll never meet those people, so don't feel embarrassment ...
@@KatieKookaburra me too, just that skin is a bit tough, need to dig in a bit to get an opening before the squeeze... just have to take a day or two away from the saddle... #recoverydayjobs
@@KatieKookaburra I bet you would blitz your old times on Strava... Norton Summit is busier than ever some weekends... seems to be some kind of a race to get to the top first!
Bio degradable dog poo bags for the poop paper. Literally built for that purpose, oh and they're fraganced too. 💩😁 Thanks for covering the less glamorous topics that nobody else seems to want to cover. 👌🙂
One of my favourite things about you, is how open and honest you are (everyone poops). I love your channel and how human you are! Thank you.
Yesssss. So happy to hear you mention the cup. It has transformed my comfort to cycle while I’m on my period. Including going for a wee while cycling. If anyone is unsure… go for it!!! You will not look back.
Clear answers to difficult questions, that's how we like it.
I always use a handkerchief to blow my nose, without a part ending up in my ear and the rest on my fingers 🤧. I will clearly have to practice more..
A little joke to close: Where is the rear side of a tree? Where the poop lays.
Keep enjoying your bike rides.
Can’t agree more on the saddle, I changed mine recently and the new one seems virtually identical in shape and feel to the old one, but the comfort difference is like night and day.
Not riding with a backpack did it for me.
Thank you for talking about the other 50% of the climb - getting back down. I love climbing, but especially steep gravel/mtb tracks scare the hell out of me sometimes. In some cases I push the bike down, but you are right, this is sometimes even worse than just going through it.
Yep, can relate. Sometimes I'm like "how the bike is still all in one piece". No shame around hike a bike tho :)
I am SO tired of all these fake social media personalities always showing the posh life as if everything is always perfect! Look at this one, sitting in a.... , nondescript room? in a tshirt? talking about pooping outside? Uh, hold on, is this actual useful information real people can use? She's a gem this Katie Kookabura!
9:06 laclan Morton rode the alt tour on flats!
Thanks for this. I don’t know why we feel so embarrassed about some of this stuff as the majority of us experience the same issues.
Using the word "stupid" in this context is really unhelpful. If people are embarrassed about stuff there needs to be a supportive environment in which they can raise them, without feeling "stupid". It's nothing to do with "individualism" and more to do with being judged.
@@canningsimon yeah, I agree. I just wish it wasn’t so. We all have the same bodily functions and it’s bizarre to me that we live in a society and moment in time where there there is so much shame and embarrassment about them.
I use Shimano SPD pedals because I used to go spinning and those are the pedals they use, so if I rode my bike to the gym it made sense to use the same shoes. Plus they are a damn sight easier to walk in that "proper" road cleats. There is little or no evidence that they are any worse in any way, and certainly not at my level, so it's a bit of a no-brainer. The only downside is the reduced shoe selection, but honestly, there are so many on the market these days it's not really an issue
Funny thing about the chafe/saddle/hair removal/numbness thing - I've never had so many conversations about my 'bits' in my whole life as I've had out on a long ride with the bunch. Seems like it's an academic discussion, talking about our own bodies in the third person.
😂👌🏼
One of my favorite channels. You are very nice and easy going!!
Enjoy the ride!!
I find Zinc oxide cream works well down under, as it is actually used for nappy rash, also helps for hemorrhoids
Hi Katie supper informative video and very honest but were all human Ive never had any shame when it comes to ppl asking about toileting (I'm glad you mention about not leaving wipes/paper, most think you just bury them too and also to be mindful about being near water sources, I use a water filter 😱) I'm relatively new to the long distance cycling scene but used to do long distance hiking/backpacking so kinda the same.
just to help anyone I don't shave anywhere, or wear lycra/padded shorts never used creme either doing 50-60 mile a day on bike touring trips, I only wear quick dry hiking pants/cargo shorts +cotton boxers I know everyones different but do think saddle choice is extremely important and mostly determines what you need to wear and not wear "depending on activity" im not into speed and my T-shirts can act like a sail dragging my speed to a crawl depending on wind direction 😂, but like you say its what your comfortable wearing, for anyone who's interested I use the brooks b17 its fantastic!, I was sceptical at first because its rock hard and slippy turns out these qualities are what make it perfect for long distance at first i did have pressure pain on my sit bones to start but no numbness and nothing lasting when off the bike and nothing that put me off getting back on the bike, for comparison my old saddle was grippy and slightly cushioned it would grip loose clothing and rub me raw the longer I rode, I think the cushioning just made it more painful I had a whole host of numbness and pain in my nether regions never gotten any better.
I think you may just simply be the best. Thank you for being you and sharing yourself with us!
Very well done Katie, and brave!
Been riding in Melbourne, Australia (Beach Rd. of course..!) for about 30 years now. It's great to see so many more women riding now, and getting this awkward information out there can only help more women feel comfortable about the complications of riding.
- I do wear casual t-shirt and short, with an under-short.
- Why don't you bury your paper with the rest !? You bring it back home, to throw it in the toilet so that it ends up down the near river ?
- I do use paper handkerchief, and always carry several ones for my rides (and use Atrovent to reduce the runny nose effect by 90%).
Does that Atrovent really works?? I always have a running nose when cycling with a headwind.. really annoying!
@@thedignator It does, at least for me ! :-D
Anything for runny eyes?! 🙄
That was a good show. Both interesting and funny at the same time.
That thumbnail is brilliant, nicely handled questions👍
Proper honest answers for all 💙😊 great stuff Katie
Game changer - "Sh!t Kit" - incl. bag, wipes, hand cleanser etc..
Good handling of the subjects
Proper honest and lovely lady ❤
Great tips. I did a gravel ride recently and when on the road section I had a moped rider empty the contents of his nose on me during overtaking me, he shouted some profanity after doing it. I don't think he liked bicycles on the road. Glad I ride mostly MTB trails and forest gravel tracks in Wales.
This is the road edition compares to Seth bike hacks video! Awesome!!!
Great vid Katie.
Things that women in particular, have to figure in, on long rides.
Makes your exploits even more remarkable.
Hope the achilles is enjoying the break, have a great weekend.
Nice honest answers about things that affect us all
I went kayaking down the arkan River in Sweden.for pooping we would use a stick to spread it..(helps the worms do their job). Like you, for tissue we rolled it up into a plastic bag (dog poop bag). Placed in bin when able.
ok, embarassing question - what gears do you have on your climbing bike? I live in a hilly area, and just bought a second hand bike with a 52/36 and 11/30 and I'm struggling a bit on the hills. I'm thinking of changing to a 11/34 at the back (as I have a long cage rear mech), will that be enough or should I change to a 50/34 at the front also? I'm 107kg at the moment and trying to get down a bit... ok a lot, but getting up the hills will be a start, otherwise the bike will stay in the shed
Great to have an honest, warts & all video. Well done 👍
New to bicycling. Become a great fan of you. Thanks.. 🙏🙏
it's great that you made a video like this! However I do think there is a "price" for going fast downhills since descending is part of cycling too, not just climbing and riding on the flats. But I am obviously not trying to make less experienced riders, descenders to take huge risks.
Great video. I am still very nervous descending despite living in Sheffield! I just go super slow and I try not to feel bad that others have to wait. I have found discs are better for wet weather. I try not to shave but it's a bit tricky for swimming!
I just wear swim shorts now. Lol! Saves faffing about. But perhaps you're a serious competitive swimmer?
Good tips thanks. Interesting answer on the ingrown hairs. I suffer from something called a pilonidal sinus which saw me in hospital in aldershot in the 90s needing an op. I was always told to keep it clean and dry and have always used veet and a hygiene routine mainly because the sweat builds up and uses the hair to get in cause infection which is incredibly painful. No idea about hairs elsewhere but certainly there I’d be inclined to get rid. Not disagreeing with what you said but found it interesting with the different advice.
Clean and dry is not different to what I said, I said don’t wax or shave which aggravates the skin and hair follicle :) you can still be clean using a trimmer or getting lazer to remove hair.
Thanks for the response. Sounds like I wasn’t listening properly. Will get my ears lasered. Have a good BH. Cheers
Great honesty , really appreciate
Im not afraid of descent per se. Im afraid that the nice road will end and transform into some unpaved road full of rocks or I will enocunter road full of cracks in the middle of descent. Happened to me few times while doing routes for the first time.
Also I'm always riding my gravel bike in MTB shorts, I cant get used to lycra but this does not bother me at all. I feel comfortable and thats all what matter.
We love you Kay Kay. Keep posting and inspiring
Hey…Norton Summit!!! In my home town of little old Adelaide!!
Okay another embarrassing question is, it seems as if you are used to and comfortable pooping while on a long ride and I am sure you try to find as much privacy as you can, but you never can always find a private place like behind a bush. So have you had to poop and did someone stumble upon you while you pooped? If so how did you handle it and what was the person's reaction?
I think runner Paula Radcliffe was in competition and had to poop and just dropped shorts and pooped in in front of spectators. She didn't want to lose the race by finding a proper toilet.
Brilliant for you to talk about lady issues whilst riding, never seen anyone speak about this before, inspiring for sure.
What would you recommend for skin pinching on the inside of the groin. Inevitably, I'll get quite a sore boil after so many rides. Shorts feel comfortable, seat feels fine 🤷♂️
What is wrong with the people giving thumbs down. Good work as always Katie
Always keeping it real uh ? Really appreciate the honest approach 😃
It was about things we experience on a regular basis though, males and females, might as well exchange views on it;
At the very beginning, I thought saddle pain was to be endured stoically, it was a matter of pride!! My god, how foolish of me! 🤧
And the outtake made me scream with laughter 😅🤣 Wish you an entertaining weekend!
The video thumbnail 😂
Hello Katie!! Have a great Bank Holiday weekend!!!! 😊
Thank you for being brave enough to do this head on.
CORRECT. Pain is your body telling you in no uncertain terms that something is not right
Well done. Some things need to be mentioned. I was surprised when a female rider told me my bib shorts were translucent! I was mortified, but accepting. It was not intentional but the honestly was appreciated.
I live on the wrong side of the pond, and once got asked if I was wearing some kind of European shorts by another cyclist. I was very confused, but finally realized the back had ripped partially open and my butt was showing (yes, people here somehow thought that must be some kind of wild European style thing!)
You are such an inspiration to many ❤️
Thank you xx
@@KatieKookaburra ❤️❤️
Racing commercial trucks up a 15% grade! The only time I win😂
I learn so much from you about females riding.
Hi Katie, great video, re ladies and being comfy while riding. My wife was always coming back from a bike ride very sore, after a trip to the Boardman Performance Centre in 2018 for a bike fit, Bianca Broadbent suggested Cavilon cream as a posed to chamois cream (as my wife has very sensitive skin and was also reacting to chamois creams) along with a Specialized Power Expert saddle and Kalas bib shorts (both Zoom X and 3D endurance pads) she can now enjoy her bike again with no issues 👍
Cavilon is brilliant stuff, nurse gave me a tube for bedsores after I broke my hip(not one of my better rides!) and was horizontal for 3 months . When I started riding again I tried using it and was very pleased with it's performance. You only need a small amount, it's clean/not messy. I guess a pressure sore is similar whether from a bed or a saddle.
Steve
Very interesting and useful Katie. Here's a question I can never get a straight answer for - I understand using chamois cream to stop rubbing from saddle but on 200k plus rides I find sweat/rain running down the front of one's shorts. Is Chamois cream still the best option then ? seems a bit counter productive in sticking the shorts to your frontal area?
That’s another thing is they call it Lycra but most of the time it’s not , it’s mostly polyamide, polyester or elastane
Good honest recommendations Katie, Great Vid love it. 😀👍
Hi Katie that was good what you said we're still in lockdown l am 160 kms from Melbourne l have been watching tour of Spain some good Aussie riders having ago
Brilliant, thanks Katie.
Great tips. Thank you Katie.
Great Q & A, thanks for sharing
Great vlog hows the shoulder doing have a great weekend skinny k x
100% agree with the pain thing... getting the right seat for your ass matters lol.... seat i have has been on 3 bikes now....
I have to say I bailed on this video at the popping part. And I didn’t need to hear the part about managing one’s period on the bike. But I don’t see any chapters called “snot rockets”. Learn how to do those right, or it’s a mess! My pro tip for the day.
That was really good well done
Great information and a great video.
I find putting Chamois cream on my shorts the night before most effective, dont get that slimy feel.
Have you ever felt self-conscious about re-arranging your injury house? lol
These questions could be the very things in people's minds that make them hesitant about riding. Good video!
Great video again. Nobody should be embarrassed about anything.. we’re just humans after all. Sad society makes us embarrassed .
Bamboo bio-degradeable wipes de-compost.
I'm sorry but this is sort of greenwashing. Even bamboo bio-degradable wipes challenge the environment until they do eventually decompose. They do not belong anywhere in the countryside, as they are ugly to see lying around in bushes, could end up in water sources or eaten by animals, and we certainly do not want that.
Was literally going to ask about the pedals. Any idea how often u should change your pedals?
When they break or you want to change. They very rarely break, just require some maintenance. Shimano are a few mins with a couple of tools and some grease. See TH-cam videos.
I never chafe but if I’ve not ridden for a while I always get sore sit bone - normal reaction or shall I look at a new saddle 🤔
New saddle :) or change the angle slightly
Katie, love your videos always, and all feel the same about you. (I wote this before I watched the full video, but that does not change my wording.)
That thumbnail is truely terrifying lol
💩💩💩
And Katie pooping is farting where I come from , not having a dump
Good on you Katie. Always wondered about women weeing and if they got toilet paper.
btw the questions get hid behind the TH-cam controls when that low
TH-cam controls? What you watching it on? Phone?
Any advice for dealing with the ingrown hairs / subcutaneous cysts when they happen? Hard area to see to go pimple popping... Also, if a train goes past whilst you are answering the call of nature, don't worry, you'll never meet those people, so don't feel embarrassment ...
Not sure what others do but when I used to get ingrown hairs I would find the hair and tweeze it out.
@@KatieKookaburra me too, just that skin is a bit tough, need to dig in a bit to get an opening before the squeeze... just have to take a day or two away from the saddle... #recoverydayjobs
@@KatieKookaburra BTW, did just over 100km's cruising around Adelaide yesterday... really coming into bike weather now... ADL misses you!
Awww I miss ADL!!!!!
@@KatieKookaburra I bet you would blitz your old times on Strava... Norton Summit is busier than ever some weekends... seems to be some kind of a race to get to the top first!
Love your channel!!
Katie does a saddle really have a nose ????? I heard you say that on a vid from a year ago
use the leaves after you poop or just pull back the bibs back on
I put chamois cream in my beer after a hard ride.
Good info … ta very much!
Have a good weekend
Snot rocket ??!!
Yup aka blowing your nose on the bike :)
@@KatieKookaburra Well, not ON the bike, I hope. 😁
Your some Gal….for the one Gal KK ❤️
Thanks 4 that 🤗
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Bio degradable dog poo bags for the poop paper. Literally built for that purpose, oh and they're fraganced too. 💩😁
Thanks for covering the less glamorous topics that nobody else seems to want to cover. 👌🙂
Have you ever pooed and wiped with leaves? 😂
😂😂 worse. I won’t go into detail
What do you dig a poop hole with ?
Pants, knickers or thong.which is better.
Under cycling shorts nothing unless you want chafing. The pad is there for a reason. In private wear whatever you like. Just avoid a vpl
Pad in the shorts? Because no padded saddles.it was for comfort.the day's of plastic ? And leather saddles.
Hi😀