This has got to be the best airbrush review I've ever seen... and I've seen a lot! Mate you nailed it. In depth, informative, honest, entertaining. Hats off to you buddy. Top class
I am grateful for a review by someone I trust. After watching someone else's video, I snarled that my old Paasche VL1 could do thinner lines. After seeing your work, I realize that the problem was with the painter, not the gun. It appears that the Evo is twice the price of the Mobius. The Evo may be the better brush -- but is it TWICE as good? Incidentally, some of us would describe you as an "artist," not a "custom painter." Use whatever term you like, of course -- but "artist" is an honorable job description.
First time I've seen a micro video cam view of the internals of a paint pen. Sorry, thought that was way cool. Helpful for me instead of breaking something. Brilliant, good review. Thx
i really like mine, makes the ace 98 feel not ace like, so the 98 been relegated to primer/base coat duty. I agree with your points, trigger is way better, still room for improvement/preference. I'm purely a lacquer/enamel guy so my needs aren't as demanding as artists but always good to hear from a different pov to learn. I love how easy they are to clean. They're great brushes for my model needs.
After I got the H&S Ultra 2024 (which isnt that cheap, but is really budget relative to its flawless quality), my next budget budget detail airbrush would be a 0.28 setup and hopefuly a 2ml cup for the Ultra '24 the moment these become available. I think even top notch chinese brushes cant compete with that. There might be still a difference in entry price, but the differences in longivity, flexibility, easy availability of spare parts and just overall build quality is just so much bigger relative to that small price difference. I wish Ghaaleri luck and a bright future with their products, but they make it so clear to me what H&S did with the Ultra '24.
I agree, I dont need a new airbrush right now, I have an Eclipse, an Iwata HPC+ , a Mr Hobby whateverstupidnameithas 0.2 and a Vega 2000 (aka the dog of war). But if i had to pick an airbrush today, I would go with H&S. This Gaahleri looks nice, it does look like they put some real effort and they want to really get a place in the market. Ι understand that there is a cost bottom line that after you cross it ,you enter into the zone of crappy products. If they managed to market this at around 50 euros, I think that everyone would buy one just out of curiosity. Obviously its impossible to do it and maintain certain standards. I do believe that the real cost of an airbrush is somewhere bellow 100 euros and the rest is branding/marketing related added costs. But the market is not big enough.
Bonjour je suis David de France et j aimerai vous dire une fois encore que j ADORE ce que vous faites !!! Vraiment vos vidéos sont parfaites.vos explications sur le Mobius sont de loin, les meilleurs de toutes celles que j'ai pu voir. Une fois encore, c'est vers vous que je me fie. Vous êtes génial. De tout cœur, je vous souhaite une excellente fête de fin d'année. 🎉🎉
Thank you for making this review! I adore the macro (close-ups) that you have taken us through. I have honestly been waiting for you to review this one. Even as a model builder, I have been waiting for an artist to review this airbrush just to see what it can do relative to the other brushes on the market. (What good is painting spoons when my single action Paasche H can do the same?) Why not contact their customer support about the burr? I hear that their support is really good. === About what you said about cleaning the airbrush: I find that with some of my airbrushes, I need to at least remove the needle to wipe to remove all traces of paint, otherwise there is always a bit of thinned paint that would condense and then dry on the needle-nozzle assembly for next time, which would cause it to jam or lock. What am I doing wrong? For context, I would run through 3 or 4 cups of fluid that all appear to be clear in the cup when cleaning out the airbrush.
Interesting and informative review thank you. Mine arrived today and I've thoroughly looked it over with a strong magnifier; It's perfectly machined and the trigger is as good as any I've tried. I wasn't expecting that. As soon as I held it, I knew this was going to be the airbrush for me. I really feel it's performing way above it's price. In fact I'm probably going to love it more than my Iwata airbrushes. They've either fixed the problems you have had, or you were unlucky with the machining and burrs. I'm going to order the 0.3 version and if they wear well, for that price they're going to be giant killers.
I am a modeler and don’t do the type of work you do which dictates which brushes I should purchase. For me price/quality has to balance and I had decided to try Gaahleri. For what I do their brushes are great for the price. I would LOVE to try a H&S but I honestly believe it would not be a prudent financial decision. That being said anytime you purchase an airbrush it’s an investment and like I said I would love to try a H&S because I know I would fall in love with…. I think Gaahleri will do fine in the market moving forward….
They've got some nice features on that airbrush... but my word haven't they let themselves down on the finish when their ads are aimed at that sort of quality. If they can iron that out it would be the ideal beginners airbrush on value. I've had a great year watching you Rob.. Happy New Year to you and your family.
Another great in depth review. No smoke blowing or going on about how wonderful this or that is just the real meat n potatoes issues that matter. I opted for the .3 to paint fishing lures since nearly all the detail work is stencil. After watching your review I feel confident my choice will suit my needs perfectly. Cheers brother and enjoy your New Year's celebration. Looking forward to many more videos in 24'.
My .3 arrived yesterday. First impression, very nicely finished. Broke it down and checked it with micro camera. No imperfections that I can see. The paint cup is 1000x better than the latest badger I've bought. Smooth like a mirror. Re-assembled and sprayed some Valejo white base. No issues. Trigger is fantastic. If durability is good this is a winner.
Nice review mate, im going to get a new Brush and stepping up from my old ultra version, this or the gsi 270? Im using for models paint, or if you have other options im all ears. Subbed. Thanks
Another great object review, thanks for taking the time to do the review. The closeup camera video was fantastic! What camera did you use? Is it commercial available?
Hi Rob hope you had a good Crimbo mate and you and your family are enjoying the new year👌to my untrained eye this looks a nice brush apart from the imperfection in the pot which as you said is easily rectified I don't think the issue around the air valve will be a problem but it is a quality control issue that I think the manufactures need to address🤔 You mentioned something about lubing your bits up🤔rather personal but if you must know I always lube my bits before every session🤭🤢🤣
I think the only reason I haven’t scooped up this brush is because, for the price of this one, I could either buy another low end Iwata, or a used mid end Iwata. Either way, I feel that the mobius isnt gonna be a lifetime brush like Iwata makes. I think if this mobius costed around $50 U.S., then I would have already got it. But as of right now, it’s 90-100 dollars. Don’t get me wrong, this mobius looks beautiful, but I would rather my airbrush be built to last, and I’m just not sure that the mobius is gonna be that “trusted” brush that never fails you. Only time will tell I guess. For now, I’ll just stick with my Iwata HP-CH high-line. Personally speaking, I believe it to be the most versatile, and strongest built airbrush on the market today.
Mi sembra una copia di un pezzi di aerografo Iwata con valvola MAC, e di aerografo H&S duse con o-ring teflon dietro, e con qualche difetto nella cromature interne, vedo, dura fare qualcosa di nuovo oggi.
I was thinking I don’t want the Mac valve something that can add weight,be in the way, malfunction. I didn’t see one on the iwata micron 580.00 to 600 dollars
@@dredfxcustompaintright. Gaahleri says this is intentional to prevent finger fatigue for long sessions. The problem is air turns on and off at half trigger - so when you release, then resume there’s an instant splatter. Because there’s a period of time where paint is leaking out the nozzle with no air to blow it off. Would have been better if they had engineered it like a Hansa brush (air stays on until the needle is fully forward and seated).
model painters mate.....i had a commission to do 4 serial killer portraits 20x16", posted them on the iwata fb group....the toy model painters were disgusted...lol
Can you adjust the needle bearing through the cutout in the body of the brush like can be done on the Iwata Microns or is it just for show? I'd like to know the cost of these airbrushes and the country of manufacture? I'm thinking it's another Chinese airbrush. Thanks for a very in depth review of this airbrush.
Good honest sat on the fence review really surprised about that burr maybe the QA department missed that one ???? All in all painted well and the looks of the brushes exterior is on point but internals have let it down a bit hope its longevity holds up, well done mukka 😊😊
Have the .3 version of this as I mainly do Cars and free hand stripes and Tribal patterns on them. I picked this up for $35 after using a gift card and Man what a tool. This really impressed me at the price point, kinda ticked I spent $60 on an Eclipse (Used) and $125 on my Patriot 105. This weapon handled everything they could with change to spare. This Airbrush is very well worth the investment at this price point, hands down it will be very difficult to find something better for $60 or so. Great video, Love good ol honest reviews by people that actually know what they're doing.
Another top level review✌️👍😊 Im skeptical about longevity of the product and/or the company, especially if they have tie-in's with the atrocious CCP. Time will tell. I think that H&S have most segments and sectors covered especially with their 2024 range. Good parts availability too, as has Paasche, Badger, Sparmax, Iwata et al. Although Im a model painter/model maker, I also specialise in weathering and weathering effects, so use various techniques, including reverting to detail painting with a good old fashioned sable brush or modern synthetic brush - horses for courses/appropriateness. Remains to be seen if such is 3D artistry, but I apply what my art teacher taught me all those years ago, to my models. Ive been lucky enough to have been published a few times in the past 50 years (from back when weathering a model was seen as ruining it/destroying its value 😳😲🤕🤣🤣).
This has got to be the best airbrush review I've ever seen... and I've seen a lot! Mate you nailed it. In depth, informative, honest, entertaining. Hats off to you buddy. Top class
Thanks mate really appreciate that 👍 happy new year to you and your family
I am grateful for a review by someone I trust. After watching someone else's video, I snarled that my old Paasche VL1 could do thinner lines. After seeing your work, I realize that the problem was with the painter, not the gun. It appears that the Evo is twice the price of the Mobius. The Evo may be the better brush -- but is it TWICE as good? Incidentally, some of us would describe you as an "artist," not a "custom painter." Use whatever term you like, of course -- but "artist" is an honorable job description.
Great review, loved the micro camera inside the brush. Best review yet.
Thank you 👍 it just gives you a look at the inside and the finish
awesome review like always! great work. The video quality is also awesome man- loving this new setup.
Thank you much appreciated 🙏
Another one coming up 0.3mm mobius
First time I've seen a micro video cam view of the internals of a paint pen. Sorry, thought that was way cool. Helpful for me instead of breaking something. Brilliant, good review. Thx
Your welcome glad you enjoyed it
I thought that was really cool I wonder what camera you get for that brand and cost?
Happy new year bro!!
All the best in 2024 for you
I'm pretty happy with my 98, so maybe got to buy this one CHEERS FROM COSTA RICA
Got mine a couple weeks ago. Very good airbrush for the money. I'm tempted to order the Mobius 0.3 as well.
Not even any of my Fengda airbrushes have so bad burr in the cup.🤣
It's little things like that which let it down but for a budget detail airbrush it's OK 👍
The best review I’ve seen, very honest and extremely professional, I subscribed to the channel and will continue to follow you 👍🏻
Thank you welcome to dred fx Custom
i really like mine, makes the ace 98 feel not ace like, so the 98 been relegated to primer/base coat duty. I agree with your points, trigger is way better, still room for improvement/preference. I'm purely a lacquer/enamel guy so my needs aren't as demanding as artists but always good to hear from a different pov to learn. I love how easy they are to clean. They're great brushes for my model needs.
After I got the H&S Ultra 2024 (which isnt that cheap, but is really budget relative to its flawless quality), my next budget budget detail airbrush would be a 0.28 setup and hopefuly a 2ml cup for the Ultra '24 the moment these become available.
I think even top notch chinese brushes cant compete with that. There might be still a difference in entry price, but the differences in longivity, flexibility, easy availability of spare parts and just overall build quality is just so much bigger relative to that small price difference.
I wish Ghaaleri luck and a bright future with their products, but they make it so clear to me what H&S did with the Ultra '24.
I agree, I dont need a new airbrush right now, I have an Eclipse, an Iwata HPC+ , a Mr Hobby whateverstupidnameithas 0.2 and a Vega 2000 (aka the dog of war). But if i had to pick an airbrush today, I would go with H&S. This Gaahleri looks nice, it does look like they put some real effort and they want to really get a place in the market.
Ι understand that there is a cost bottom line that after you cross it ,you enter into the zone of crappy products. If they managed to market this at around 50 euros, I think that everyone would buy one just out of curiosity. Obviously its impossible to do it and maintain certain standards. I do believe that the real cost of an airbrush is somewhere bellow 100 euros and the rest is branding/marketing related added costs. But the market is not big enough.
Bonjour je suis David de France et j aimerai vous dire une fois encore que j ADORE ce que vous faites !!! Vraiment vos vidéos sont parfaites.vos explications sur le Mobius sont de loin, les meilleurs de toutes celles que j'ai pu voir. Une fois encore, c'est vers vous que je me fie. Vous êtes génial. De tout cœur, je vous souhaite une excellente fête de fin d'année. 🎉🎉
Thank you much appreciated 🙏 enjoy your new year celebrations
Thank you for making this review! I adore the macro (close-ups) that you have taken us through. I have honestly been waiting for you to review this one.
Even as a model builder, I have been waiting for an artist to review this airbrush just to see what it can do relative to the other brushes on the market. (What good is painting spoons when my single action Paasche H can do the same?)
Why not contact their customer support about the burr? I hear that their support is really good.
===
About what you said about cleaning the airbrush: I find that with some of my airbrushes, I need to at least remove the needle to wipe to remove all traces of paint, otherwise there is always a bit of thinned paint that would condense and then dry on the needle-nozzle assembly for next time, which would cause it to jam or lock. What am I doing wrong? For context, I would run through 3 or 4 cups of fluid that all appear to be clear in the cup when cleaning out the airbrush.
Interesting and informative review thank you. Mine arrived today and I've thoroughly looked it over with a strong magnifier; It's perfectly machined and the trigger is as good as any I've tried. I wasn't expecting that. As soon as I held it, I knew this was going to be the airbrush for me. I really feel it's performing way above it's price. In fact I'm probably going to love it more than my Iwata airbrushes. They've either fixed the problems you have had, or you were unlucky with the machining and burrs. I'm going to order the 0.3 version and if they wear well, for that price they're going to be giant killers.
Yes it will be a test of time with these brushes thanks for the feedback much appreciated
I am a modeler and don’t do the type of work you do which dictates which brushes I should purchase. For me price/quality has to balance and I had decided to try Gaahleri. For what I do their brushes are great for the price. I would LOVE to try a H&S but I honestly believe it would not be a prudent financial decision. That being said anytime you purchase an airbrush it’s an investment and like I said I would love to try a H&S because I know I would fall in love with….
I think Gaahleri will do fine in the market moving forward….
Yes totally understand where your coming from Gaahleri brushes are great for the price point 👍
They've got some nice features on that airbrush... but my word haven't they let themselves down on the finish when their ads are aimed at that sort of quality. If they can iron that out it would be the ideal beginners airbrush on value. I've had a great year watching you Rob.. Happy New Year to you and your family.
Thank you astralsolari for all the feedback and support with the channel much appreciated have a great new year rob 👍
Orders one a week ago and impatiently waiting for it to arrive, DHL shipping is not very fast across the U.S.
Well there horses have to be watered that takes time
Another great in depth review. No smoke blowing or going on about how wonderful this or that is just the real meat n potatoes issues that matter. I opted for the .3 to paint fishing lures since nearly all the detail work is stencil. After watching your review I feel confident my choice will suit my needs perfectly. Cheers brother and enjoy your New Year's celebration. Looking forward to many more videos in 24'.
Thank you 👍
My .3 arrived yesterday. First impression, very nicely finished. Broke it down and checked it with micro camera. No imperfections that I can see. The paint cup is 1000x better than the latest badger I've bought. Smooth like a mirror. Re-assembled and sprayed some Valejo white base. No issues. Trigger is fantastic. If durability is good this is a winner.
@@ChrisCardino-is4bd nice one 👍 I got the doggie one then lol 😀 easy fix for me enjoy your brushes 😉 thanks for the feedback
Nice video,congratulation.
Nice review mate, im going to get a new Brush and stepping up from my old ultra version, this or the gsi 270? Im using for models paint, or if you have other options im all ears. Subbed. Thanks
Another great object review, thanks for taking the time to do the review. The closeup camera video was fantastic! What camera did you use? Is it commercial available?
Hi Rob hope you had a good Crimbo mate and you and your family are enjoying the new year👌to my untrained eye this looks a nice brush apart from the imperfection in the pot which as you said is easily rectified I don't think the issue around the air valve will be a problem but it is a quality control issue that I think the manufactures need to address🤔
You mentioned something about lubing your bits up🤔rather personal but if you must know I always lube my bits before every session🤭🤢🤣
Great video, as usual. As there's no noise, what compressor are you using. The silence is golden! Happy new year from Canada.
Great video! Has Gaahleri released the Mobius yet? If so, then where can you find them? Once again, Great Video, and have a Happy New Year!
Happy New year bud. Hope next year is even more productive than this one.
Thank you 👍 have a good one
Hi, great review, which 0.2 airbrush would you recommend if budget wasnt a problem, thank you.
Evolution h&s
I think the only reason I haven’t scooped up this brush is because, for the price of this one, I could either buy another low end Iwata, or a used mid end Iwata. Either way, I feel that the mobius isnt gonna be a lifetime brush like Iwata makes. I think if this mobius costed around $50 U.S., then I would have already got it. But as of right now, it’s 90-100 dollars. Don’t get me wrong, this mobius looks beautiful, but I would rather my airbrush be built to last, and I’m just not sure that the mobius is gonna be that “trusted” brush that never fails you. Only time will tell I guess. For now, I’ll just stick with my Iwata HP-CH high-line. Personally speaking, I believe it to be the most versatile, and strongest built airbrush on the market today.
Yes I totally understand where your coming from time will tell with the Mobius I have iwata's on my shelf and they are still going strong 💪
Would you go with the mobius .2 or the sotar 2020? I'm looking between the 2.
I'm left handed myself, my question is if not is uncomfortable with the cutout design for the right hand and using it with the left?
Mi sembra una copia di un pezzi di aerografo Iwata con valvola MAC, e di aerografo H&S duse con o-ring teflon dietro, e con qualche difetto nella cromature interne, vedo, dura fare qualcosa di nuovo oggi.
I was thinking I don’t want the Mac valve something that can add weight,be in the way, malfunction. I didn’t see one on the iwata micron 580.00 to 600 dollars
PS270
Another good choice
I haven’t had a chance to watch the entire video yet but have you noticed the trigger pushes air when you pull it back without pushing down?
Yes it's the way the trigger sits on the ball top of the air valve
@@dredfxcustompaintright. Gaahleri says this is intentional to prevent finger fatigue for long sessions. The problem is air turns on and off at half trigger - so when you release, then resume there’s an instant splatter. Because there’s a period of time where paint is leaking out the nozzle with no air to blow it off. Would have been better if they had engineered it like a Hansa brush (air stays on until the needle is fully forward and seated).
model painters mate.....i had a commission to do 4 serial killer portraits 20x16", posted them on the iwata fb group....the toy model painters were disgusted...lol
Would you used the Gaahleri 0.2 brush for your art work.
@@stevegrenot5289 if that was my only brush then yes I would but I do own better brushes than that so it stays on the shelf
Can you adjust the needle bearing through the cutout in the body of the brush like can be done on the Iwata Microns or is it just for show? I'd like to know the cost of these airbrushes and the country of manufacture? I'm thinking it's another Chinese airbrush. Thanks for a very in depth review of this airbrush.
yes u can. its MiC ab..
Hello, is it about the same level as MR. hobby ps270? Thanks!
Good honest sat on the fence review really surprised about that burr maybe the QA department missed that one ???? All in all painted well and the looks of the brushes exterior is on point but internals have let it down a bit hope its longevity holds up, well done mukka 😊😊
Thanks mate other than the bits I pointed out it's a nice brush for someone that is after there first budget detail brush 👍
How would you rank the detail airbrushes? What's the best value (under$100)? The Mobius, Procon 270, Master, or another?
Just this second done a video on the ps270
@@dredfxcustompaint well I know what I'm watching tonight. Cheers!
@@davelogeman enjoy 😉
Have the .3 version of this as I mainly do Cars and free hand stripes and Tribal patterns on them. I picked this up for $35 after using a gift card and Man what a tool. This really impressed me at the price point, kinda ticked I spent $60 on an Eclipse (Used) and $125 on my Patriot 105. This weapon handled everything they could with change to spare. This Airbrush is very well worth the investment at this price point, hands down it will be very difficult to find something better for $60 or so. Great video, Love good ol honest reviews by people that actually know what they're doing.
Nice I know what you mean it is good for the price 👍 enjoy thanks for the feedback and support much appreciated
Do you know if i can replace the nozzle and needle size with a .3?
Yes you would need the fornt end of the 0.3mm and needle
@@dredfxcustompaint awesome! Looks like I'll pick one up then
Another top level review✌️👍😊
Im skeptical about longevity of the product and/or the company, especially if they have tie-in's with the atrocious CCP. Time will tell.
I think that H&S have most segments and sectors covered especially with their 2024 range. Good parts availability too, as has Paasche, Badger, Sparmax, Iwata et al.
Although Im a model painter/model maker, I also specialise in weathering and weathering effects, so use various techniques, including reverting to detail painting with a good old fashioned sable brush or modern synthetic brush - horses for courses/appropriateness. Remains to be seen if such is 3D artistry, but I apply what my art teacher taught me all those years ago, to my models. Ive been lucky enough to have been published a few times in the past 50 years (from back when weathering a model was seen as ruining it/destroying its value 😳😲🤕🤣🤣).