Well this sort of defeats the purpose of having a universal standard. If they're going to be this stubborn about it they should include the stylus in the Box. Pretty close doesn't really count when you're talking about the word universal.
Yes. The only way this would be acceptable is to include the stylus for the incompatible digitizer. Lately, companies seem to be lacking in the understanding that people have to be able to use their products, not just display them as works of art.
I should add, the UsI Pen 2 is available now on the Lenovo Australia site. Shopping seems a tad slow. But since this duet 3 is my first ever Chromebook, I don't have a problem with with limited pen compatibility matter.
google should really prioritize and pay you guys. you're single handled keeping chromebooks on the map for me. I got a duet 5 because of your show and I enjoy it far far more than i have any right to. I really needed an x86 device but wanted to test this out on a cheaper device. I'm now thinking of switching to chromeOS from my usual ipads/macOS setup. I just wish we got more premium chromeOS devices. .
I like my duet 5 too. It has a long battery life in part due to the processor used. If they ever go to intel (to become Pro certified) chances are the battery life will come down.
In case anyone is interested, I can confirm that the Penoval USB C stylus (USI702 with tail eraser) works on my Duet 5, though not all apps support the eraser correctly.
But what happens when USI 3.0 comes along and we have to buy another pen for another device? This totally undermines the entire point of being "universal".
It's the stylus that supports "backwards compatibility", not the touch digitizer. That means USI 3.0 pen will work with older USI 2.0 and 1.0 digitizers, but a new USI 3.0 digitizer can only accept 3.0 pen. This is just how all active stylus protocols work.
Thank goodness a USI 2.0 pen is finally available-ish. Let's hope Penoval duplicates its palm rejection and eraser functionality on one of their upcoming [2.0] pens.
So, anyone who purchased an expensive USI pen thinking that they were all set to use with any new Chromebook with pen input got taken for a ride and now we are back to needing to buy a special one for a new device. Great job Lenovo, I guess you have been watching how Apple operates. And here I thought that using a Chromebook got me away from all that.
lol. I am one of these that bought a USI pen thinking it would work. But no It did not. Crap standard, and I hope it goes away. edit : and they need batteries also... why not just use wacoms technology like my old Note 3 did.. worked perfectly.
At least for apple once you make the purchase it works very well and for a very long time. like Louis said, people be copying the wrong thing from apple instead of looking at why they are so successful despite all that in the first place
My USI pen was working just fine with my Chromebook Duet, but other people have said that since any updates past ver104 doesn't seem to make the pressure work? Really sad if this is done on purpose because everything used to be fine, so why suddenly now it won't work? :(
Strangely There is a very similar situation with the Lenovo P11 Pro tablet (Android) which only accepts the Lenovo Precision Pen 2. Sadly, however, while this pen (and no other) works with the tablet, and the Lenovo C340-15 Chromebook it refuses to work with some Android devices.
I recently bought the duet 5 now I'm wondering if I should get the usi 2.0 pen when it comes out since the 1.0 spec will be old by the time I'm ready to upgrade again.
Hello! So what is the model number for this USI 2.0 pen and where can I buy it for my new Duet 3 2022 model? The Lenovo sales support chat is suggesting an older USI compatible pen that does not the Duet but claim that it may work which is contrary to what you are saying? Thank you for the info.
I returned my duet 3 because I couldn't get a pen in my region that would work. The only reason I upgraded my Chromebook C302 is to have pen support and I was disappointed
Hi I have a question. Will appreciate your help. I got a lenovo USI pen. I am trying to use it on yoga c640. It does not work. does that mean its not compatible?
Hi. I have an HP Chromebook X360 14 G1. Does anyone know what stylus works with this device. I want to be able to draw on it. Any help would be appreciated. I called HP and they were no help.
My Lenovo USI 1 pen experience is not exactly great. I can't use it after a week. Too sensitive. I have been using a Penoval pen, with no issue at all. I owned a Flex 5i and OG Duet.
Thanks chrome unboxed the great content. Please can you or someone from the community let me know if I can buy the Penoval USI Stylus Pen with Tail Eraser, for my Pixel Slate, will it work with USI 1.0, 2.0 or none/both versions of the firmware?
My EMR pens work seamlessly across brands - Asus, Samsung, reMarkable, Kindle, and Staedtler. I've had much less success with USI pens, and considerably less success on Lenovo tablets.
Why don't they simply have a "Works With" list or simple test app, so people will KNOW what to buy or forget the idea. I'd rather like to get a pen for my Asus 302c, just occasionally it's a useful tool. But I have another stylus capable device if I need that option.
Hello I have the new Asus 513 Spin 2022 UK (CP513-2H I think) and was hoping to get a USI pen, but not sure which one would work. Would you be able to help please?
My usi 1.0 pen only worked on my og duet then the screen broke. As I bought more devices,.nothing used USI. I've leaned towards Lenovo android since many including my tab 13 can use the same pen as Microsoft surface devices of which I have four. I even had a cheap tablet that ALSO used the Microsoft standard. I have a bad taste in my mouth about USI.
Why? Because of some people like to use the word incel? Oh no! What are we gonna do!!! Some words that aren't the same, doesn't spell the same, sounds the same!!! Welcome to English, my third language 😋
So far Lenovo is doing a lousy job of upgrading what is a wonderful device (the original duet) I'm looking for a mediatek 8195 with 8gb ram in a 10 or 11 inch tablet before give up on my duet. I love the small form factor.
@@PHOBOS1708 depends on the model number. Mediatek from the old duet is I agree "too weak" and a snapdragon 7c is a step in the right direction however, " there is always a bigger fish" and the new mediatek offerings are the next big fish on the way to arm processors that can compete with Intel (x86) and apple (arm) silicone. I bought a Snapdragon 7c powered HP x2 11 with 8 gb ram and a working rechargeable pen included, to hold me over until the next "big fish". On sale refurbished for $250 it was too good a deal to pass up.
Too long. Could have reduced 4.59 mins to approx 30 seconds. Kept repeating himself. Learn to be succinct. Main issue for me was why USI2 pens don't have an eraser.
Well this sort of defeats the purpose of having a universal standard. If they're going to be this stubborn about it they should include the stylus in the Box. Pretty close doesn't really count when you're talking about the word universal.
Yes. The only way this would be acceptable is to include the stylus for the incompatible digitizer. Lately, companies seem to be lacking in the understanding that people have to be able to use their products, not just display them as works of art.
Hoping to see more pen options by the time the Duet 3 with 8 GB starts shipping. That's the model for me!
I should add, the UsI Pen 2 is available now on the Lenovo Australia site. Shopping seems a tad slow. But since this duet 3 is my first ever Chromebook, I don't have a problem with with limited pen compatibility matter.
Ok, good heads up in this video. A more technical description of the advantages of an incel display would be worthwhile.
google should really prioritize and pay you guys. you're single handled keeping chromebooks on the map for me. I got a duet 5 because of your show and I enjoy it far far more than i have any right to. I really needed an x86 device but wanted to test this out on a cheaper device. I'm now thinking of switching to chromeOS from my usual ipads/macOS setup. I just wish we got more premium chromeOS devices. .
I like my duet 5 too. It has a long battery life in part due to the processor used. If they ever go to intel (to become Pro certified) chances are the battery life will come down.
In case anyone is interested, I can confirm that the Penoval USB C stylus (USI702 with tail eraser) works on my Duet 5, though not all apps support the eraser correctly.
so it works on wihch apps?
Please make review on how usi 2.0 pen performs on Chromebook duet 3. Thanks in advance
But what happens when USI 3.0 comes along and we have to buy another pen for another device? This totally undermines the entire point of being "universal".
It's the stylus that supports "backwards compatibility", not the touch digitizer. That means USI 3.0 pen will work with older USI 2.0 and 1.0 digitizers, but a new USI 3.0 digitizer can only accept 3.0 pen. This is just how all active stylus protocols work.
When things improve, old tech is left behind, no other away around it you can't update hardware as easily as software
Odd that they didn't actually show the usi 2.0 pen working on the Lenovo duet 3
Thank goodness a USI 2.0 pen is finally available-ish. Let's hope Penoval duplicates its palm rejection and eraser functionality on one of their upcoming [2.0] pens.
What pen do you recommend for duet 5? Thanks!
It's been over a year, can you do another 'current state of usi' video?
Great overview about the differences in the USI spec but how about a review of how the new pen handles?
Do you know what's going on with the Duet 3 not showing as available from Lenovo? Did it get discontinued already for an 8 GB model?
So, anyone who purchased an expensive USI pen thinking that they were all set to use with any new Chromebook with pen input got taken for a ride and now we are back to needing to buy a special one for a new device. Great job Lenovo, I guess you have been watching how Apple operates. And here I thought that using a Chromebook got me away from all that.
lol. I am one of these that bought a USI pen thinking it would work. But no It did not. Crap standard, and I hope it goes away. edit : and they need batteries also... why not just use wacoms technology like my old Note 3 did.. worked perfectly.
At least for apple once you make the purchase it works very well and for a very long time. like Louis said, people be copying the wrong thing from apple instead of looking at why they are so successful despite all that in the first place
@@dustcake2576 agree, my ipad pen works perfectly on all ipads i have.
Progress people. Change happens, eventually USI 2.0 will be the new standard.
My USI pen was working just fine with my Chromebook Duet, but other people have said that since any updates past ver104 doesn't seem to make the pressure work?
Really sad if this is done on purpose because everything used to be fine, so why suddenly now it won't work? :(
so my 1.0 pen I just bought won't be usable in the future? ah jeez thanks lenovo.
This is why I subscribe. Well done.
Strangely There is a very similar situation with the Lenovo P11 Pro tablet (Android) which only accepts the Lenovo Precision Pen 2. Sadly, however, while this pen (and no other) works with the tablet, and the Lenovo C340-15 Chromebook it refuses to work with some Android devices.
I recently bought the duet 5 now I'm wondering if I should get the usi 2.0 pen when it comes out since the 1.0 spec will be old by the time I'm ready to upgrade again.
Makes you wonder what the meaning of "universal" is..
can you rest your hand and write with the pen USI 2 on the tablet?
Hello! So what is the model number for this USI 2.0 pen and where can I buy it for my new Duet 3 2022 model? The Lenovo sales support chat is suggesting an older USI compatible pen that does not the Duet but claim that it may work which is contrary to what you are saying? Thank you for the info.
What USI pen works best with the Duet 5?
same !
I returned my duet 3 because I couldn't get a pen in my region that would work. The only reason I upgraded my Chromebook C302 is to have pen support and I was disappointed
So was it part of an update that made the older USI Pen's not work?
Chromebook duet won't work with anything asides from USI2 Pens now?
So,for Lenovo ideapad duet Which the best pen?
Good explanation. Stupid limitation.
Thanks! But then no USI pen available for the Lenovo Chromebook Duet 3?
It's so sad that even in technology world INCELs experiencing incompatibility.
Yeah but it's all the tablets fault. They'd be doing a lot more writing if the tablets didn't stop it.
You both sound like a fresh breath of air. NOT> Go stew some more. He Brews US.
Hi I have a question. Will appreciate your help. I got a lenovo USI pen. I am trying to use it on yoga c640. It does not work. does that mean its not compatible?
is it compatible for lenovo ideapad flex 3?
Is there any pen that works with lenovo flex 3? I've been searching and trying and most of them says it is not compatible or doenst work very well.
do you know if it would work for the chromebook duet 5?
Does anyone know what stylus pen will work with Lenovo IP Flex 3 11.6" Chromebook.
Hi. I have an HP Chromebook X360 14 G1. Does anyone know what stylus works with this device. I want to be able to draw on it. Any help would be appreciated. I called HP and they were no help.
Do you have any pointers on how to sync the precision 2 pen to the Duet 3. I've just purchased one and there's limited to no diriections.
i just got a lenovo flex 3i..what would be the best pen for it?
Where did you get the pen for the ideapad duet 3
Can you suggest a pen for a Asus Chromebook flip C433? I don’t know what too use An Apple Pencil USI or Capacitive pen?
My Lenovo USI 1 pen experience is not exactly great. I can't use it after a week. Too sensitive. I have been using a Penoval pen, with no issue at all. I owned a Flex 5i and OG Duet.
Does Duet3 pen support hovering?
What was the fingerprint issue on the Pixel 6? (I have the Pixel 4a and I feel like it unlocks sometimes when it shouldn't.)
its either available or not.....
Thanks chrome unboxed the great content.
Please can you or someone from the community let me know if I can buy the Penoval USI Stylus Pen with Tail Eraser, for my Pixel Slate, will it work with USI 1.0, 2.0 or none/both versions of the firmware?
the pixel slate isn't usi compatible
@@DamianS78 thanks Damian much appreciated do you know of a recommendation the pen for the pixel slate?
@@TheCoozinatoooor I don't think there are a lot of options but the pixelbook pen might be the best choice
Is the Duet 5 in-cell too?
My EMR pens work seamlessly across brands - Asus, Samsung, reMarkable, Kindle, and Staedtler.
I've had much less success with USI pens, and considerably less success on Lenovo tablets.
Why don't they simply have a "Works With" list or simple test app, so people will KNOW what to buy or forget the idea.
I'd rather like to get a pen for my Asus 302c, just occasionally it's a useful tool. But I have another stylus capable device if I need that option.
very helpful thank you 😊
Do one for the duet 5 please
Hello
I have the new Asus 513 Spin 2022 UK (CP513-2H I think) and was hoping to get a USI pen, but not sure which one would work. Would you be able to help please?
Hey, which did u buy? Because I bought the one this video talks about but doesn't work haha
👍🏽 Thanks, Robby! 🤠
Confused by your long explanation.
can u do a gaming test on the duet 5
INCEL Digitizer? I don't know about you guys but I like my displays to be a little more promiscuous.
The INCEL Digitizer rebellion is coming!
Also has a NoFap browser extension built in.
good info
My usi 1.0 pen only worked on my og duet then the screen broke. As I bought more devices,.nothing used USI. I've leaned towards Lenovo android since many including my tab 13 can use the same pen as Microsoft surface devices of which I have four. I even had a cheap tablet that ALSO used the Microsoft standard.
I have a bad taste in my mouth about USI.
Does the Lenovo duet 5 suffer the same limitations?
Nope. I use the penoval on mine.
You are the best 👍
Manufacturers are going to have to come up with a different terminology for those displays, besides 'Incell'. >_>
Why? Because of some people like to use the word incel? Oh no! What are we gonna do!!! Some words that aren't the same, doesn't spell the same, sounds the same!!!
Welcome to English, my third language 😋
@@lilypower at what time in your language classes are you learning jokes?
Do you think I can be a superhero?
So far Lenovo is doing a lousy job of upgrading what is a wonderful device (the original duet) I'm looking for a mediatek 8195 with 8gb ram in a 10 or 11 inch tablet before give up on my duet. I love the small form factor.
Mediatek is far too weak. Duet 3 has twice the power!
@@PHOBOS1708 depends on the model number. Mediatek from the old duet is I agree "too weak" and a snapdragon 7c is a step in the right direction however, " there is always a bigger fish" and the new mediatek offerings are the next big fish on the way to arm processors that can compete with Intel (x86) and apple (arm) silicone. I bought a Snapdragon 7c powered HP x2 11 with 8 gb ram and a working rechargeable pen included, to hold me over until the next "big fish". On sale refurbished for $250 it was too good a deal to pass up.
They've gotta make money somehow, ig
It's unfortunate.
👍Like....... 4:36
Why do you capitalise every word in the video title? It is not only wrong, but also gives off a very kindergarten like vibe.
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Too long. Could have reduced 4.59 mins to approx 30 seconds. Kept repeating himself. Learn to be succinct. Main issue for me was why USI2 pens don't have an eraser.
First one